is this possible chat?
>>64625926it did not just overheat
>>64625926Only possible in shellful countries
>>64625926Chinesium already is bad, so it's no surprise their monkey model failed implessively. It's just unfortunate that Ukraine couldn't fulfill Thailand's Oplot orders in time and they were forced to go with chinkshit.
>>64625926>chinese metalurgyYes
>>64625926>get free testingImplessive.
>>64625926>overheatedLooks more like an in-bore premature detonation of a HE or HEAT shell.They are usually either a fuze malfunction - rare nowadays as fuzes have multiple spin and setback safety features - or from cracking of the HE filling compressing on shot-start.Rough handling and dropping HE rounds causes cracking in the cast TNT or RDX/TNT filling of the shell.Under the sudden shock loading of the shell being fired the two surfaces get crushed together hard enough to detonate.Regardless of whether a tank has 'chinesium' metallurgy, no gun barrel of any manufacturer is built sufficiently thick to contain a HE detonation as they would be too heavy to move. They are only made to withstand a safety margin above propellant gas pressure.>Moral: Never drop HE ammo and expect it to be still be bore-safe to useIYAAYAS
Chinese quality control
>>64626021This.
>>64626035Nice chinesium pic but the J20 is barely comparable to a Typhoon, lmao, F22s and F35s would rape those. J15 are shitty flanker knockoffs that have less than their advertised range because China couldn't hack single crystal turbine blades until recently (if they did at all), J35s are an unknown quality and the first two are just prototypes nobody has seen outside of some blurry video.
>>64625926Implessive.
>>64626047I posted that pic to prove I weren't a chink shill as I personally looked up airframe counts and put them next to each plane to show the PLAAF is tiny.I guess I forgot just how retarded post 2016 4chan is.
>>64626021Very solid theory but I think some sneaky Cambodian stuck their finger down the barrel, causing it to rupture
>>64626035>>64626068You could've made the numbers more clear because anons here stuffer from chinkshill fatigue and it's just become muscle memory for them. This image without the numbers has been spammed probably a dozen times.
>>64626111That's why I added the numbers.
>>64626047The J-20 is more capable than any US fighter in basically all respects.
>numbersChina is shitting out 150 J-20 a year, the currently best air to air superiority fighter, and they're gearing up to shit out J-35, J-36 and J-50 as well.The F-35 is not really competitive against any of these designs, it is underpowered and lacks range and it's outdated weapons suck. It's a strike fighter with limited self defence capability, not an A2A platform after all.
>>64626123row, rmaoPlease show me more irrelevant numbers on a graph and why this means it is implessive
>>64626123你好我想在莱德贝特的门廊上看到他们然后你说,我想再次离开我曾在风化的沙滩上见过她在沙滩上,我想再次离开,耶!
>>64625926tank guns do funny things but are generally designed to stand continuous firing of all the shells the tank itself can holdwhen a gun detaches itself from the breech is usually because of a breech malfunction or premature detonation of a round
>>64626021Could be bore obstruction. There is a lot of trash on that deck. Maybe even obstruction by water.
>>64625926>Thai VT-4 gun overheated from extensive use.Yes and similar things happens in Ukraine too. When the steel gets hot, its strength decreases, then oops.
>>64626252wow like 9/11
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>>64626874So someone was just feeding him more rounds? I can't imagine a secanrio where a tank is firing that many in a row. At that point you're just a bunker and at no risk of return fire.
>>64625926Where'd the breech block go
>>64626047>F22s and F35s would rape thoseChina's entire air force is designed around deleting tankers, not for winning 1v1 fights. Because only the F-15EX and carrier F-35's (and F-18's) can hang around Taiwan AO without a refuelling run. It is something the military really needs to sort out. There are no long range escort or strike aircraft in inventory because it is assumed everything will be in control. That's the issue.
>>64626047>(if they did at all)There's evidence to suggest this because they preferred to use other countries engines in their helicopters because their domestic ones just can't match.
>>64626874Yeah, that tracks. He basically shot until it blew up the barrel
>>64626920>
>>64625926>A Royal Thai Army VT-4 (Chinese-made MBT) reportedly suffered severe damage during a recent engagement near the Thailand-Cambodian border. According to local sources, the tank experienced a catastrophic gun-barrel rupture, which also damaged the fire-control sighting system and the laser warning receivers.>Three crew members were injured but survived, and the tank has already been recovered for assessment and repairs.>There are conflicting early reports ..some speculate an FPV strike, while others state the damage was caused by barrel overuse and exceeding firing limits, leading to an internal explosion. No official confirmation yet.Buy Chines-ACKKK
as expected of a Chinese weapon
>>64626874>>64626898>over 200 roundslike machinegun rounds?
Its funny too, because I absolutely can't stand chink shills but I always thought the VT-4 sounded kind of promising
>>64628182It will be solved in the next VT-4 revision.
>>64626874>200 roundsRor, rmao
>>64628173>like machinegun rounds?Probably not.Maybe they were being used as an SPG and were just lobbing HE over a hill at some position. I could see guys running shells up to them in rotation.
>>64628248Lol sure. Using your brand new tank like an spg, against cambodian, shooting 200 rounds. Def not a dumb cope for chinesium
>>64626101The Thai gunners face was all black with soot and his hair turned to cornrows
>>64626101>Mfw the Thai’s are using 125 mm gyrojets
More likely what happened is that the loader put a shell in the breach after firing a reasonable number of rounds prior, and left it in there. Given enough time the shell heated up from contact with the barrel and detonated the HEThat is what happened with a 155mm howitzer on a firing range in my country about 18 years ago when they left a round loaded for an hour or so at the end of the exercise, and it likewise blew the barrel apart
>>64626068> to prove I weren't a chink shill>>64626111> anons here stuffer from chinkshill fatigueMan the absolute state of this broad is deplorable. You literally can't talk about anything other than US or EU military stuff because everyone thinks you're shilling if you do
no refunds!
>>64628785>More likely what happened is that the loader put a shell in the breach after firing a reasonable number of rounds prior, and left it in there.It has an autoloader. And the tank + crew would be gone if a 125 mm HE shell detonated inside the breach.
>>64628805Yep, can't talk about anything Russia, China or Iran is doing without the assumption of shilling.Fucking sucks.
>>64626874>>64628138So the crew survived and managed to get off 200 rounds before overheat. That tracks with the performance of the VT-4 so far, which has been pretty stellar albeit against cambo Soviet junk. At the very least it's outperforming the T-84, Thailand's other modern MBT.
>>64626122You did nothing wrong. /k/ is very inexperienced with that part of life.
>>64629832>low iq chinkshill going off into alternate reality again Sad
>>64629965I'm Thai, I'm just telling you the results we've gotten. You can call me whatever you want with no argument, doesn't really bother me.
>>64626123Vely implessive
>>64628942Gunner/Loader same difference. Person who has authority on the round entering the gun, put one in there and left it in there absent mindedlyThe whole story about firing 200+ rounds in a heated battle is Chink bullshit posted on social media to make it look less embarrassing. The crew of the tank haven't been interviewed by Thai media whatsoever
>>64629991Please tell me first hand where the 200 round story is from
>>64631157Not him, but searching around the web, the only english source I could find citing quote from someone in the Thai military regarding this incident is https://defence-blog.com/thai-military-investigates-vt-4-tank-gun-failure/>“Regarding the case of a Thai VT-4 tank experiencing an accident in which firing caused the gun barrel to burst, it did occur,” Col. Richa said. “The tank has damage. As for the cause, it cannot yet be specified and is currently under technical examination.”>He added that several possible factors are being considered, noting the operational tempo of the vehicle. “Based on initial assumptions, there are several possible reasons, since the VT-4 tank has been continuously involved in operations and has conducted intensive firing during the period of operations. Whether this may be the cause or not, we ask that the public wait for a detailed technical verification by the Ordnance Department,” Col. Richa said.>According to Col. Richa, the tank had been operating continuously and firing heavily since the start of the operation period, which may have contributed to the incident.It tracks with the story that the tank has been firing heavily, although it doesn't specifically says how many rounds. Gonna need to wait for report, if they ever release one.
>>64628805There is some cool stuff out there from other countries, the problem is how they portray it: no actual demonstrations that aren’t jump from camera to camera with sped up and slowed down footage. Give me a fucking breakdown, show the actual range in testing, talk about process of development without sounding pretentious, just the facts. Fucking anything other than some shitty low effort video hyping it up as the next best thing since sliced bread. A lot of guntubers do this as well and it just feels disingenuous, never mind state institutions. I hate the age of spin and grift on the internet.
>>64631235like other anon said, the contributing factor of tempo of operations, was probably insufficient cooling of the gun after heavy firing, and crew fatigue in mistakenly leaving an unfired round in the breechThe stuff about firing 200+ rounds is Chinese social media accounts twisting what the Thai MoD have said, to a more palatable scenario for China, then spreading it. Making it seem like it's legit by posting a photo of some anonymous Thai tanker and saying that their words are his words, when no such person has been interviewed by the Thai media, let alone international media.
>>64631120That's cool and nice opinion but you've chosen to completely dismiss that the tank is an autoloader, and a round in the breech would explode inside the tank compartment, not halfway down the barrel as the OP image suggests.
>>64631579Tanklet here.Does an autoloader only load as an extended firing sequence?As opposed to loading one in the chamber and waiting on bowstring to fire?
>>64631579>not halfway down the barrel as the OP image suggestsanon, stop looking at the thumbnail and open the full imageThe tank's barrel isn't even visible in OP's photoThe explosion is at the breech end and has blown the whole barrel and mantle cover off
>>64631637Incorrect.
>>64631654>Claims it blew out the end of the barrel >There is no barrel >"Don't believe you're lying eyes"Kill yourself
>>64631664>blew off the mantle!Except it didn't.>kys I have to be right because Im on the internet and I have autism :(Well your very first observation was clearly wrong, so no, and,Incorrect.
>>64631670>Except it didn't.mantle cover anon. the fabric that goes over the gun mantle and stops it getting caked in dust and shitThe muzzle reference lazer that sits over it is also goneThe explosion was very obviously at the breech end
I'm not wasting my time arguing with a moron. Go be a brown nigger somewhere else.
>>64631579>>64631637>>64631654>>64631664>>64631670>>64631695What are you two arguing about?Clearly the barrel is gone, the crew were alive on admission to hospital but not tap-dancing or giving interviews, also not being scooped into jars.What kind of malfunction threads that needle?
>>64631863a shell exploding in this position
What if we kissed at the combination casino and Pol Pot cremation site overrun by the Thai military
