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>duuude gun laws are pointless because everyone with 4k worth of tools and 2 weeks of free-time can build his very own SMG (that has an effective range of 10 yards)
ok but where are you going to get the ammo?
sure, smuggling 10 rounds across the border is easier than smuggling a weapon but for a proper "protect the rights of the people"-situation you need hundreds if not thousands of rounds per gun

seems like it would make more sense to build DIY long range rifles instead of SMGs / Pistols so you can get the most out of each round
yes, you can make your own ammo with blanks and slugs but that stuff can be banned too and then its back to square 1
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>>64630041
like if you want to create a ghost SMG why not go for a powderless approach?
i.e. something using compressed air
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>>64630041
>get friend with a hunting or sport shooter loicense and questionable morals
>buy ammo from him
It's pretty much that simple.
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>>64630085
>>get friend with a hunting or sport shooter loicense and questionable morals
what if that stuff gets banned too?

in my country AFAIK 9mm is banned even for hunters so you would either need to stick to .22 or rifle calibre
also they want to revoke gun loicenses for those who are part of the wrong party
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>>64630041
Gun laws aren't pointless they just limit restricted arms to the motivated with tripple digit IQs.
My main problem with restricting arms civilians have access too is the creaping authoritarianism in the west convincing me the general public should be issued assault rifles during manditory service with the goal being the civilian population posing a credible threat to the government.
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>>64630041
Chuds will spend 15K on guns ammo and tactical attachments but when it's finally time to fight against the machine they'll bitch out.
Meanwhile lefties who never held a firearm 3d print a 22lr shitstick with an 80% jamrate and just go shoot some CEO
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yall forgot the whole concept behind the Liberator pistol. it wasn't intended to be used as a weapon of war, it's sole purpose was to walk up to a soldier or any armed individual, then shoot him and take his superior gun. this is also how niggas in Myanmar use their FGC9s, they kill or capture government troops then take their Armalites and either throw away their 3D printed guns or give them to previously unarmed rebels.
the point is, you don't need to make a match grade gun that can compete in olympic shooting, you need a gun that works good enough for the purpose of getting a better gun.
durkas in Afghanistan went to war against ziggers using 50yo SMLEs, they made up war songs about how awesome SMLEs were, then as soon as they captured AKMs they threw their Enfields into a ditch and never looked back.
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>>64630124
>and just go shoot some CEO
amazing
and what exactly did this achive?
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>>64630148
It did get the public talking about healthcare again, lead to a bunch of polling proving universal healthcare has massive bipartisan support and ended Trumps plans to kill Obama care.
As for United Health directly they reversed a policy that cut off tens of thousands and stopped using AI to deny claims.
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>>64630146
> it's sole purpose was to walk up to a soldier or any armed individual, then shoot him and take his superior gun.
you don't need a 9mm SMG with a box magazine for this though
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>>64630151
>it ended Trumps plans to kill Obama care.
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>>64630041
>ok but where are you going to get the ammo?
you can make blackpowder with piss, as shown recently it's enough to make a hit on someone important, you can transform it into smokeless powder with ping pong balls and some acid and then carefully make a recipe that is close to powder used in 9x19.
you can also just dump flour into diesel and then let it dry for a few days, you can also read up publicly accessible US army guide on how to make all sorts of explosives and ammunitions.

"ban on guns" is just a way to make sure the most gullible and stupid members of a populace won't try to arm themselves or revolt, simply because they believe that they can't access the tools for it anymore. anyone with more than 2 brain cells will know that it is bullshit
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>>64630166
>you can make blackpowder with piss, as shown recently it's enough to make a hit on someone important
something tells me that creating a SMG based on DIY gunpowder is a bad idea
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>>64630163
True, I should say delayed.
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>>64630166
>you can also just dump flour into diesel and then let it dry for a few days to make your own gun powder
no you can't

i swear
this bord nowadays is just a bunch of 15 year old wannabe-edgelord who believe anything they read on reddit
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>>64630171
it's not that dangerous, you want to minimize danger to the maximum ? make it a .22lr
anything else and it will require you to spend a lot of time doing research, testing and being carefull on how you do things
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>>64630186
case in point, someone with less than two braincells
>you can also just dump flour into diesel and then let it dry for a few days, you can also read up publicly accessible US army guide on how to make all sorts of explosives and ammunitions.
read the line again, very slowly and pay attentions to the words then use whatever you have left of brain in your skull to figure out what is implied there.
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>>64630195
>explosives and ammunitions.
>and ammunitions.
also not like this will work anyways
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>>64630192
>it's not that dangerous
have you actually ever made DIY gunpowder
let alone a SMG based on DIY gunpowder?
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>>64630199
it will work as an explosive, can't use it in ammunition tho, or maybe if you are planning to spice things up for people you don't like, actually now that i think about it, the french did used some string of explosives in their 8mm lebel ammo in WW1 to make up the lack of chemicals required to make smokeless gunpowder but again this was done by professionals that knew exactly what they were doing.
point is, gun ban is not an issue for those that still want guns
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>>64630163
>> one man finally used a gun the way the constitution intended
> he didn't singlehandedly solve healthcare in a country of 300+ millions people
> therefore that was pointless
> t. bitch chud who never did anything and never will
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>>64630204
>it will work as an explosive
will it?
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>>64630200
blackpowder is quite easy to do, for weapons no i didn't but let me ask you one simple question
if a favela monkey is able to do a full auto smg why do you think you can't do it ?
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>>64630148
It achieved in showing that you are an esl retard
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>>64630085
and then the ammo gets traced to the friend & it's gg for him
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>>64630206
>killing white people niggerstyle is "le maintaining the security of a free State"
whatever you say shlomo
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>>64630207
depend, do you have the time and place to make the experience ?
it's not like it's illegal, since tannerite already exist.
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>>64630219
You will never do shit.
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>>64630219
>"""White""" """people""" nigger'ing their way into power and stealing all your wealth like a nigger
>Self proclaimed right wing """white""" nationalist whimpering like a tamed, well behaved nigger serf
>"'muh fREEEEdom"
whatever you say homo
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>>64630041
If you go on odysee and download the files for the nutty9 it has plans for making 9mm ammo out of dummy rounds and ramset blanks which are available pretty much everywhere. It also has instructions for a pretty easy to make gun, no welding or machining, you just need a 3d printer, a drill and some common tools.

It's much harder to make a rifle out of common hardware, the pressures for long range cartridges make everyday materials insufficient. The bottlenecked shape of most rifle rounds also makes it trickier. People have and do make them but it takes a much higher degree of skill and access to better tooling than pistol caliber guns.

If you want to move the needle forward there are projects working on diy powders, deterrence dispensed and black lotus coalition are running trials I believe and could always use more testers.
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>>64630219
>calling others jews while denigrating the justified
and righteous killing of an insurance CEO
I work in hospital billing and voted for Trump twice. That fucker deserved to die and I hope he burns in hell. Insurance companies are parasites that feed off the suffering of the American people. If any of you saw the shit they try denying coverage for chemo patients your blood would boil
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>>64630041
The Kyoto arson attack proved that you don't need guns or bombs to commit a mass murder. All you need is two cans of gasoline and a death wish.
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>>64630041
>>64630095
>>64630218
are you trying to have some sort of gatcha moment arguing with yourself.
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>>64630685
>It's much harder to make a rifle out of common hardware, the pressures for long range cartridges make everyday materials insufficient
What about for something like .22 Magnum
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>>64630041
You fucking make 'em, you queer.
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>>64631110
As a small, straight walled cartridge that seems pretty feasible. 5/16 brakeline might be able to handle it, but I haven't heard of anyone doing so.
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Any talk of gun laws or control is meaningless until you explain to me how you plan to disarm the government, military, and police BEFORE you take guns away from the citizenry. If you don't understand why it needs to happen in that order then you are a dangerous voter.
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tl;dr
OP is right
read this thread
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64361675/
>>64630685
>If you go on odysee and download the files for the nutty9 it has plans for making 9mm ammo out of dummy rounds and ramset blanks which are available pretty much everywhere. It also has instructions for a pretty easy to make gun, no welding or machining, you just need a 3d printer, a drill and some common tools.
lol, sure
maybe in Europe or any other country with relatively no gun control from the DIY standpoint
friendly reminder that JStark did not in fact use nailgun blank gunpowder (it will work but its not the point), he literally had bottles of factory gunpowder and factory primers ahahahah stupid europeon thinks he's beating gun control by buying premade critical cartridge components
>UHM THEY WON'T BAN NAILGUN BLANKS (they are already trying to make them shitty in places like Russia) OR AMMO CASINGS (they already did in brazil)
>UMM YOU'RE RETARDED I CAN BUILD A 50 TON BRASS SHAPING PRESS IN 3 DAYS AND MAKE MY OWN CASINGS! GUYS IN PAKISTAN EASILY MAKE AMMO AND THEY'RE STUPID RIGHT? ANY FUDDTKEYAMA RESIDENT WILL MAKE AN AMMO FACTORY IN THEIR SHED (actual statement)
>UMM I'LL TURN MY CASINGS USING A CHEAPO 200$ CHINESE LATHE! TOLERANCES? WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>UMM I'LL SYNTHESIZE NITROCELLULOSE (actually, black powder is more than enough)
>UMM WE'RE ACTUALLY WINNING!!!
>IN FUDDTKEYAMA GUN CONTROL IS NONEXISTANT! NO NIGGERS TOO SO LOW CRIME!!!
>WE'RE FIGHTING NON-CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS IN CALI/ILLINOIS IN COURT RIGHT NOW!
>WE WILL REPEAL THE NFA AND GCA JUST YOU SEE!
>UM ACTUALLY NFA AND GCA ARE GOOD
the tendency is there, but it doesn't fucking work because it's america
you will still be able to get a gun very easily in America in the next 50-100 years I believe
gun control doesn't exist in America, 80% lowers, private sales, retarded 4473
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>>64630041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4F7opVc-yY



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