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Automatics are superior to revolvers due to their high capacity and quick reload, but the average person is not anticipating a prolonged gunfight. A snub nose revolver is more practical considering the most likely usage will be when cornered by a single attacker up close, and the person drawing and firing it could be so full of adrenaline that they don’t have all their fine motor skills and are at risk of limpwristing the pistol or forgetting to remove a manual safety.
Plus a revolver can have its barrel pressed up against something and still be fired, unlike with automatics, as the slide could go into battery and render the gun unfireable.
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>>64632975
you can get a more lightweight auto pistol that is slimmer while also holding more rounds that is also also way easier to reload rapidly AND it has a more crisp trigger pull for each shot fired... if you've got a hammerless revolver then you will have a terrible trigger pull. Even if it's a shrouded hammer you will have to deal with your revolver being not just ugly but also huge in it's rear end. You can have a traditional revolver if you'd like however now you have a sharp spur on the back that could easily hang on something like clothing... all so what, you have six shots coming out of a thick handgun with a heavy trigger pull not unless you have the hammer pulled back? No thanks, boomer. I'll stick with something that's more slim with more rounds with an easier trigger pull. Oh, and it'll more than likely be less expensive.
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>>64632975
Have both. I carry a ruger lcr often, whenever I am doing something really active with the kids and need it to be in a pocket or fanny pack. I like revolvers for sub-optimal draw situations. All you gotta do is get your hooks on it and yoink the trigger and it will go boom. I don't need a proper grip like with my normal carry gun that goes in a proper holster aiwb and the way the revolver grip is shaped seems much easier to pocket draw to me. I do prefer to carry an automatic most of the time, way more comfy and confident shooting it. For pockets though, revolvers all the way for me.
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if there is only one attacker, it doesn't matter. 6 shots will do.
if there are multiple attackers, consider that you probably won't be shooting just 1 round into each. it's usually anywhere from 3 to 10 round dump. with a revolver, you'd have to consciously shoot less than 6 on the first, most aggressive target, then headshot the remaining ones. you are not a fictional character. you will fail.
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>>64633006
A semi auto can jam and fail to feed or eject which is way more dangerous during a self-defense situation than having a heavy trigger or clothing tangle up which with regular practice both of those can easily be prepared for. Plus there are lightweight revolvers with lighter triggers on the market.
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Oh it's the pathetic "honing my arguments" turd again lmfao
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Fudd faggot.
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>>64632975
THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD OP BUT I'M NOT LIKE THE AVERAGE PERSON

I'M A GENETIC FREAK AND I ONLY CARRY A DOUBLE STACK HK BECAUSE IM NOT POOR AND ITS LOADED WITH 45 SUPER
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>>64632975
>the slide could go into battery
oh no!
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>>64633116
Oh it's the pathetic "anyone whose posts make me seethe must be the same person" faggot again lmfao
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>>64633795
Yeah and then the gun won’t fire, silly billy
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>>64632975
So you carry one right? That you can show us? With a time stamp?
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>>64632975
I prefer a snub revolver, but there are times when a P32 is better and has no printing whatsoever in the pocket compared to a revolver in the pocket. I prefer the revolver only because it won't jam even though it has 2 or 3 less shots.
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>>64634272
honestly? yes. there are not that many posters on this board and every revolver thread sounds exactly the same. its not that hard to deduce that they're all being made by few specific people.
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>>64634314
More like a few dedicated nuts make the same thread repeatedly, while a decent number of us revolver owners post occasionally in the semi decent ones.
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>>64634272
You're not even trying you faggot, don't get pissy when people can put two and two together.
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>>64634314
It may be more than one but chances are it's not much more given how copy-paste these particular threads are. It's actually kind of boring at this point.
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>>64633055
a reliable auto pistol will never jam not unless there's some part failure or terrible ammo selection, not unless youre just limp wristing it like hell, which i guess makes sense if youre a revolver fag who just jerks the fuck out of his handgun as some people ITT seem to prefer
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You’re forgetting the 8-shot 22lr snubbies, OP. Modern rimfire offers alot more ballistically than ammo of the past. The S&W 43C is 11oz. It’s something you would actually be able to have on you in nearly every case you would leave the double-stack subcompact at home.
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>>64634687
you forget about contact shots anon
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>>64634835
maybe dont jam your gun against them so hard lol at that point why dont you just conceal carry a knife instead
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>>64634687
It can also jam from moving too much while shooting (which is a possibility i.e running backward or in a struggle) or from not having a secured two handed grip meaning quick one handed or an unbalanced aim is also risky.

Just look at some police bodycam of jams and how disorienting they are during a shooting. If you are at a good distance with a secure grip and your firearm is quality then it's rare but it's something to think about
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>>64634970
jiggling your hand around will more likely just make you miss the target rather than jam your gun anway lolol if you're defending yourself you'll just have to train to have a steady hand
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>>64634272
Unironically yes, that is what is happening. Same topic, same arguments, same posting style, even the same reaction pics and faggy charts, ultimately
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>>64634986
I would win.
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>>64633006
>if you've got a hammerless revolver then you will have a terrible trigger pull
You have terrible taste in triggers. A smooth, heavy trigger is overwhelmingly better than a light, mushy one.
>>64633027
If there are enough attackers that a revolver's capacity is insufficient, then you are also unlikely to have enough to shoot all of them with any gun. Your attackers aren't all going to wait until it is their turn.
>>64634687
Full sized service pistols jam on cops all the time. And smaller autoloaders are less reliable.
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>>64637873
enough time* to shoot all of them
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>>64637873
>And smaller autoloaders are less reliable.

this is a feels post
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My friend wants to get a gun. I don't think he needs one. How do I tell him to get into swordfighting or some shit instead?
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>>64637925
it sounds like you are unfairly judging your friend.
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>>64634291
Tell me about the p32 anon. I would like to know more
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>>64637913
The worse grip alone necessarily means worse reliability when a poor grip induces malfunctions.
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>>64632975
>Automatics
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>>64637873
>oh no, I already shot all 6 rounds and now I have spend next 20 seconds reloading with my trembling virgin hand
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>>64634986
>who would win
Whoever carrys a .45
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>>64637979
no one outside of /k/ says autoloader. that is an antiquates term used by millennials who use old timey words to seem more knowledgeable.
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>>64634322
I haven’t made a post in months you faggot, don't get pissy when people make posts you don’t like and start making unhinged accusations because you need to feel better about being a whiny little bitch
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>>64634322
The only things you put together are your dad’s cock and your ass
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>>64634986
This is fucking brilliant lol
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>>64634322
This same poster, is he in the room with us right now?
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>>64634314
>there are not that many posters on this board
>its not that hard to deduce that they're all being made by few specific people
Albert Einstein over here.
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>>64634322
>”don’t get pissy”
>is clearly the one seething
Many such cases.
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>>64637873
>A smooth, heavy trigger is overwhelmingly better than a light, mushy one.
hell no, i'll take a light trigger with a decent break over a double action trigger
>Full sized service pistols jam on cops all the time
they really dont man, idk what to tell you. If they jammed all the time then auto loaders wouldnt be preferred by military and police so much.
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Why do you all have to be such retarded contrarians?
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>>64632975
Average people can barely function these days. They shouldn't own guns at all
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oh it's this thread again, guess OP is bored again
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>>64638160
i say autoloader in memory of Paul
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>>64632975
3'' over snub, ultra short subpar sights & double action trigger leads to bad shooting in most people who don't practice very frequently. Any semi auto is better for practicality just because the average person can shoot it more accurately.

>>64637948
Keltec .32 acp single stack mouse gun that was pretty common pre LCP and current CCW meta of 10+1 double stack 9mm's of 365s, hellcats, g48, etc. Keltec still makes p32's to this day even when it's peers; PF9, P11, P40 (I have never seen one of these) & P3AT; that used to be fairly popular in earlier times have been discontinued in favor of the P15. The mouse gun still large enough to be practical remains favorable and thus profitable even in ultrasubcompact 9mm era. The resurgence of the bobcat and tomcat 3032's besides just Beretta having the capacity to take risk on 45 year old designs shows these guns still sell because they can be made marginally smaller than 9mm's and blowbacks in .32 and smaller can be made in very small and flat guns that are alternatives in difficult to CCW conditions. .32 is an interesting round that refuses to die being just more than a 22LR but extremely low recoil and relatively quiet regardless of it's platform. P32's can be bought used for <300$ perhaps not that impressive in a market saturated with subcompacts but of all the critiques of Keltec their legacy P series seems to have a good reputation if less than ideal triggers and were emulated in some degree by every larger company making subcompacts since back then G26/27 was probably the most common "compact" and Kahr never had a huge following.
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>>64632975
I carry a full-sized auto because there are no disadvantages to it that matter to me. I can shoot 17 attackers if I have to. I can shoot one attacker 17 times. If I could realistically carry something with 100 rounds everywhere I go, I would. I could kill a single attacker with a hammer, I'm not worried about that. I'm most concerned about violence from crowds or gangs, stuff I've actually seen happen, and just because they'd probably scatter and run from the first shot doesn't mean I have to settle for relying on that. Bring your friends. I'll kill them, too.
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>>64632975
I considering switching over to .38sp for everyday carry, but revolvers can be so fuckin expensive and at the same time, so limited. The re-release of the Taurus 817 has my attention right now. 7 rounds and I bet I can put a big green XS dot on the front.
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>>64632975
saw a webm on here of a shootout between a would-be bank robber and a security guard
the security guard emptied his revolver into the robber fatally but the thug was left standing long enough to lean over the counter the guard was hiding behind and deliver what would have been a point blank execution had he not also been using a revolver and in a state of shock not realize he'd expended all 5/6 shots already in the initial exchange of gunfire whereas he promptly bled out before making it out the door

that vid alone was what convinced me the more capacity the better
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>>64633027
>>64637873
Amateurs. Bernard Goetz was robbed by four niggers and managed to hit three of them then another. And he only had a five shot revolver. Of course he went to jail and was later fined a gorillion dollars for hurting black people but the point still stands
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>>64637948
It's the easiest to carry pistol in existence while also not being a piece of shit like most tiny pistols. Mine was surprisingly reliable, no lube and even some rust forming in the barrel. Holds 7 rounds of 32acp and weighs 10oz loaded.

I hate that I live the p32 so much. It's such a meh gun but damn, it does it's job better than anything else.
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>>64639211
I remember that one; the guys neck was spurting like a fountain and he still managed to fight back for the few seconds he had left.

Regardless, I still the the average non gun person is much better served with a 32 snub nose revolver because they are too stupid and lazy to learn that semis can be much more dangerous. So many idiots shoot themselves because they rack a round out of the chamber trying to empty it, but left the mag in the gun while doing so. That and the light trigger pull...just not good for normies.
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I waffle back and forth.

On one hand, the revolver being immune to a botched draw is very appealing. After all, we are most likely going to be reacting to a situation and it would be very easy to mess up the draw.

However, with the release of the hellcat 380, I'm thinking I'll get one. 13 rounds of 380 is more than 2x what my 32 J frame carries, and I can get a red dot on it, and I'll be able to shoot it away faster. A good holster and draw practice goes a long way for sure.

To each their own, but more rounds is always more better. Most likely we'll never use it, so carry whatever you're comfortable with.
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>>64633006
>that is also also way easier to reload rapidly
How often is someone going to reload in a self defence scenario
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>>64634986
>t.millennial raised on movies where le heckin underdog wins
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>>64642048
You think they invented underdog movies in the 90s?
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>>64642047
how often is someone going to be in a self defense scenario
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>>64642054
That's exactly the point, it's a rare subset of a rare scenario
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>>64642056
damn so probably not something to get huffy over huh
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Why isn't always revolver users that care the most about what other people are carrying?
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>>64642067
I agree anon, it isn't always revolver users
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>>64642067
is it*
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>>64642067
As pointed out earlier in this thread it's probably a handful of users making the same threads and posts over and over and over out of contrarianism/boredom.
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>>64632975
>but the average person is not anticipating a prolonged gunfight.
More is still more, and I can have more rounds of comparable power with a gun of equivalent size, all with an actual single-action trigger pull with every shot.

You'll almost certainly do ok with a snub, they work if you do your part, but the arguments for one over an automatic are almost entirely subjective.

>Plus a revolver can have its barrel pressed up against something and still be fired, unlike with automatics
If this actually was such a big deal, then strike plates would be a common accessory and design feature for pistols, but they just aren't.
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>>64632975
Autos have:
>Double the capacity or more
>Significantly lighter recoil
>Significantly faster reloads
>Easier manual of arms for noobs to learn
>Lighter weight
>Made of more durable materials
>Cheaper
>Significantly better quality control
>Not owned by fedora tipping autists
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>>64642056
People shoving their guns into people's guts through jacket pockets is probably just as likely but I constantly see this brought up as a point in these asinine threads for why one should carry revolvers.
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>>64642056
why dont you carry a single shot or double barrel
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>>64642067
>>64642069
because revolver heads feel they have to constantly justify their decision to carry a wheel gun with excuses other than "It's cool"
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>>64642087
yeah it's a weird argument considering the greatest power of a firearm is to stab someone really hard really fast who's out of your arms reach. I don't know why revolver dweebs think their attacker is going to forcefully kiss them; that's the most unlikely scenario of all by far
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>>64632975
t. noguns noshoots
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>>64642047
dunno but dang if they do they'll be happy it was a mag fed
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Protip!

If the op in a thread has a stock picture of a gun on a blank white background, chances are, it's made by a gunless fuckknuckle just trying to stir shit up! You have no obligation to reply or engage with it and should do your best to send it to slide off the end of page 10.
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>>64642168
Protip!

You’re a faggot!
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>>64641979
Yep. Mine is a lint magnet and still functions
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>>64637873
regardless of your feelings a heavy trigger pull will throw your shot off more than a lighter trigger pull given the same amount of overtravel
>but what if you train
for a given amount of time spent training you will be better with a lighter trigger pull than a heavier trigger pull
also its easier to train with a lighter trigger pull. any trigger pull thats about 11lb or higher gets tiring to do dry fire practice on



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