I see a lot of load out threads, but not many 'worst case best case' onesSay your country had a serious break down of law and order, society hasn't quite collaped yet, things might get better, but in the meantime things are pretty lawless and if you had to defend yourself the police won't be asking any questions afterwards.What's the minimum level of weaponry you'd accept in order to defend yourself, family and property?What's a mid tier, and what's the best possible case? Keeping in with what you could realistically own prior to the current unrest.I'm in the UK so worst case>I have a double barrel shotgun and some bird shot, still more than a lot of people would have>mid tier I have a decent pump/semi auto shotgun with buck shot or slugs, or a .22 semi auto or both>I have a bolt action rifle in a powerful caliber with enough ammo, plus some sort of cap and ball revolver/ semi auto .22 or shotgun. The main thing being I can shoot both at range and close quarters effectively
>>64635939Crossbows would certainly come in handy. They attract less attention when you fire, and they’re a lot easier to come by than firearms and ammunition. And unlike firearms here, there’s no legal limit to how powerful they can be. If your aim is solid a 150lb draw weight, 400fps crossbow will be more lethal than a 22. Guarantee shouldering a big fuck-off crossbow will scare off any roaming bandits armed with shitty little machetes or whatever.
>>64635996Should have mentioned I’m a fellow britfag
>>64635939We've imported so many brown savages they're literally gonna start eating us the second our well maintained food supply system shuts down. You have no idea what's coming and there's no way to prepare for it. You will be immensely outnumbered.If you were planning on fighting some military force, you're wrong to invest in small arms. They're obsolete against militaries. Even third world ones have drones now. You need to make your own weaponized drones, IEDs, and idk why no one has figured this out yet but an RPG is basically a pipe and model rocket. You can easily built weapons that can shut down vehicles, and even planes if you can get an air drone or guided rocket to move fast enough. Definitely helicopters, and even better when the aircraft is sitting on the ground. Mortars are a very easy concept to work with too. Don't think small, you won't be very formidable with your rifle especially if it's a limited range intermediate rifle which so many of you are obsessed with. Cut the larp and get real, militaries are not an easy enemy.
>>64635939>society hasn't quite collaped yet, things might get betterAnon the collapse IS things getting better.
>>64635939>bird shotOnly going to work indoors. However, a steel ball bearing in a shot cup fired with that same shell emptied of lead shot offers a cheap upgrade.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qUUSvlmK474&pp=ygUbVGFvZmxlcmRlcm1hdXMgYmFsbCBiZWFyaW5nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tSJY1N61uMk&pp=ygUbVGFvZmxlcmRlcm1hdXMgYmFsbCBiZWFyaW5nhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2SDelAH3LdM&pp=ygUbVGFvZmxlcmRlcm1hdXMgYmFsbCBiZWFyaW5n
>>64635939>>64635939>What's a mid tier, and what's the best possible case?I don't know what you're fucking asking, bruv.Best case what? The best loadout I could have? >Say your country had a serious break down of law and order but society hasn't quite collaped yet ... What's the minimum level of weaponry you'd accept in order to defend yourself, family and property?The minimum would be any decent cc pistol and a braced AR for hd.The best case would be a P365 and my AUG, both of which I already own. So really all I need to do is adjust my behaviour. I start carrying my P365 with an extended mag and a reload instead of my Bodyguard 380, maybe I start wearing my vest daily and escorting my wife to work in a convoy. AUG is already in my bedroom and I've got everything pretty dialed in as far as home security goes so no changes there.
>>64635939>worst case loadoutA brick.>mid caseTwo bricks.>best caseA lot of bricks.
>>64635939the best case is muh dik + muh bawls
>>64636026Cheap, disposable shoot and scoot mortars on technicals are going to be a big thing, IMO, even if it's just for harassment fire.
>>64636017>>64635939What is going on there?
>>64636061I know, that's why it's the worst case>>64636483I'm asking what is the minimum level of arming that would give you a chance if the worst was to happen, what is reasonable and you either have already or can easily acquire. And what your ideal would be, you might not have it or it would be difficult to get under your countries laws. It's probably harder for Americans since you can just say 'AR and a Glock' to all three.The Bondi beach shooting got me thinking about it, since they were using manual operation firearms and still caused a lot of deaths.
>>64636523Nothing yet, it's just a thought tht came to me after watching in Australia carrying out a mass shooting with bolt action rifles and shotguns.
>>64635939My trusty single shot shotgun and SAA clone will suffice!
>>64637313Well there are lots of good Muslims in the UK and I hate the rise of the far right targeting them, hopefully they defend themselves and learn to fight back
>>64637386No such thing as a good muslim. They'll pick their people over yours. Idiot. They're only "good ones" because we still have our own rule of law even if barely