It's time to buy a gun in a big boy caliber. I plan on hunting with it, so weight and length is a concern. 500 yards and in, deer sized game. Thinking 6.5 creedmoor or .308, maybe in a 16" or 18" barrel since I like using a can. Thoughts? I like the springfield waypoint, but the barrel seems a bit long. Sig cross is tempting as well, even though I hate Sig with a passion. It has to shoot very tiny groups (sub .75 moa preferred) because im an accuracy douche, weigh less than 9 lbs, and preferably cost under 2500. Willing to go higher if its not super diminishing returns. Buy a factory gun or build one?
just get an M16A1. it does everything you want.
>>64640857>I plan on hunting with ityeah but you aren't gonna go hunting because you're too shy to go to classes, have no idea where to even go to hunt and have no idea what to do with a deer once you shoot it.so how about you just buy a steyr scout in 308 and have fun at the range instead.
>>64640873I wouldnt call myself a great hunter, or even a good one, but I do hunt. Hoping to go out west next year with a friend for antelope. Thus the 500 yard requirement...>>64640871No thanks, I have too many AR's as is.
>>64640857>deer sized gameremington pump action rifleor a winchester.Idk, what your local Walmart or Hunting Supplier has on his hands?
>>64640857>McNiggeratorBeen literal years since I've been in a gear queer thread.I wonder what he's up to.
>>64640955It's not gonna be just a deer rifle. It's probably gonna spend most of it's life on the range, and I like shooting sub moa groups. But I would like to be able to hunt with it if we do go out west this year. I have plenty of guns capable of dropping local deer, but I want something that's half precision rifle, half hunting build.
Remington 700 adl in .308 Winchester. Keep the iron sights on it and add a mid grade scope and a cobra sling. 20 rounds at the range with that setup and you’ll have both a solid zero and enough familiarity with it to have hunt effectively with it for the next 40 years of your life.The Creedmoor trash will burn the barrel out long before you tire of the rifle and the microscopic long range “advantage” all those internet cunts keep talking about is a load of bullshit if you tune your .308 loads to your skillset and equipment.
just buy a $500 ruger or savage rifle in .308 or 30-06 and buy a nice scope for it.
>>64640873A steyr scout is just what OP is looking for. Almost purpose-designed for his use case.But the scout has come a long way, and these days most AR10s would satisfy the requirements for a scout rifle. So OP, just buy or build an AR10 in whatever caliber you choose. Any short action chambering will suffice for <500yds. The gun should come in around 6.5-7.5lbs if you’re at all mindful about the weight of components, and the optics should get you to 8-8.5 pounds or so.No to incite a shitstorm, but if you really want a short and handy gun with a can, why not an 8.6 blackout? The supersonic loads have BC’s appropriate for energy retention at 500 yards and they produce about 2200ft*lbs at the muzzle, from a ~12” barrel. 338 federal is also a similar option but I don’t know how available ammo is.
>>64641490Really? AR10, or .338mag? That’s your advice in this thread?Put the computer down, find the nearest bully in your neighborhood and ask him to kick your ass on principle. Dimwit.
>>64640857First of all, you sound like an insufferable cunt.Second, you're looking at a trade-off no matter what. Either you choose a standard action and have a rifle that's relatively cheap and pleasant to shoot but has terminal ballistics limiting your ethical range to ~400 yards or you choose a big-dick belted magnum and have a rifle that's expensive and unpleasant to shoot but that can lay out whatever you shoot at 600 yards without breaking a sweat. As someone who actually lives and hunts out west, I'd also add that if you can't get close enough to ANYTHING to cleanly drop it with .308/.30-06/.270/etc. then that's on (you) and for any hunting situation you're likely to encounter you could easily set yourself up with a off-the-rack rifle and good enuf glass to learn on and hunt with for less than a grand.If you REALLY want to try push for that level of accuracy, especially at <9lb and with your budget, your best option is going to be either a lightweight chassis plus a barreled action or a Kimber Ascent and those are both going to be somewhere around ~$1900+ OTD which means that adding decent glass is going to blow your budget. And even then the Kimber is only guaranteed sub-MOA and there are no guarantees at all for a chassis so if you can't get your rifle to group better than 0.9 or 0.85 for love or money then you're just going to have to deal with it.Third, you're still not going to get what you want from one rifle without either hand-loading or playing the lotto with factory ammo so if you're not doing that already you'd be better off directing your investment there and trying to dial in a rifle you already own - assuming that you own anything legal to hunt with. Yeah you could get lucky and your rifle could drive tacks to your satisfaction with white box, but five will get you ten that reaching the kind of accuracy you want will necessitate hand-loading.
>>64641437Thanks. I was concerned about barrel life with the 6.5. Im guessing .308 is probably a tad cheaper as well.>>64641490I have thought about the scout. I'll give it another look. 8.6 is cool, but it's out because of ammo price and longer range performance (has the energy, but waaaay too much drop I think).>>64641768>you sound like a cuntEh, fair. Ive been called worse.Wasn't including the glass in the price tag. And I know it's a compromise build - almost all of my guns are. I'd probably play the factory ammo lotto with it, since I dont have the space to reload. If that fails, I have friends with equipment and can use their gear to fine tune something.Unfamiliar with the ascent, thanks for the tip.
>>64640994Didn't he join that chud rancher uprising few years back?
>>64641553Yup. That’s my advice. ar10s are excellent guns and 338 federal is an excellent albeit rare chambering. Cry about it
>>64640871>Needs multiple hits to kill an adult human
>>64641882Yup. Pic related. >>64641930Was leaning towards an AR-10, but I dont want to compromise too much on accuracy. I know that there are some that can print 5 shot half inch groups, but I think a bolt gun has a greater likelihood of being more precise. In my experience it all comes down to QC, but the less moving parts the less chance for deviation. .338 federal does sound awesome, but id need to get another can for it, and I try to avoid tough to find calibers. Plus the whole drop thing...>>64641975While its not an ideal deer caliber, it will definitely do the job with the right bullet.
>>64641975>Muh tiny bulletDo they get stopped by a winter coat too?
>>64640857Mcnig was a based tripfag. GODSPEED WHEREVER YOU ARE MCNIGGERATOR
