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Previous: >>64578544

Stamboulieh Law makes weekly videos on all the latest lawfare:
https://youtube.com/@2alaw

You've heard of FRTs, but what's a "super safety"?
>uses the safety to force the reset of the trigger
>allows for way more trigger options (you just have to trim two places)
>invented by Tim Hoffman (https://hoffmantactical.com)
>gifted to the world to freely 3D print
>enterprising people now selling super safeties made of steel (recommend at least 4140)
>cheaper than an FRT ($90-$150)
>originally a 3-position cross-bolt safety
>left is safe, right is semi, middle is super
>3-position 90° super safety selectors are now available
>Atrius was first, but theirs breaks easily, shipping is slow, and CS sucks
>AS Designs now makes one, and it's solid, shipping estimates are pretty accurate, and their CS is great

To make an AR-15 super safe you need:
>M16 style/"full auto" bolt carrier group
>H3 or H2 buffer weight (does 600-750 rpm of 5.56)
>"low shelf" lower receiver
>SS
>trigger with SS cut

Making other long guns/PCCs super safe varies. They often need full lower replacements that use AR controls.

How it works:
https://youtu.be/KIxsnh2fFTo

See it action:
https://youtube.com/@juiceymedia1
https://youtube.com/@poorboyarms
https://youtube.com/@printshootrepeat

Distributors:
https://pastebin.com/WPdrbYKy
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Wen 3 position AK FRT?
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>>64643364
You can do it today
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>>64643572
I want to buy one not print one
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>>64643700
you can, you need a decent amount of FA parts though like the disconnector and selector
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>>64643582
Neat
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GDI-3D is making a lower for the HK USC/UMP conversions that's compatible with AR super safeties.
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>>64643582
cool... anyway!
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From administrative results recent video, FRTs for B&T guns in 2026 that has B&T helping the guy doing the conversion with parts and keeping the warranty.
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New cassette drop in FRT called

Partisan Forced-Reset Drop-In Cassette Trigger

https://youtu.be/ImTgSLS9XWs
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>>64645134
this is cool, but I would wait for the asdesigns lower desu
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>>64645276
for m16 clones man, also one day it would be cool to get a 4 position
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>>64643582
nice! 3 round burst would go nicely in my ar15 pistol
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>>64643582
Amazing. 4 position FRTs when?
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>>64647971
45 degree SS has to exist first I imagine
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>>64647971
Just turn my 91 super safe.
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>NFA exists
>invent the brace
>"hey is that a stock?"
>"nuhuh it's a brace, it's different"
>this somehow works
>SBRs and and SBSs basically legal now
>invent the FRT
>"hey is that full auto?"
>"nuhuh it's different"
>this somehow works
>full auto basically legal now
>NFA tax on supresssors fucking repealed by an actual real honest to God law
Is the NFA dead?
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>>64643700
Then do so.

https://atlanticfirearms.com/diablo-ak-trigger-assisted-reset-system

https://atlanticfirearms.com/beryl-frt-forced-reset-trigger
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>>64648019
It is an amazing time to live in having survived the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. I say fuck it!
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>>64648040
none of these are 3 pos
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So what's the difference between an frt and a super safety? Are these things actually reliable under adverse conditions or to I have to be all finicky with it to keep from throwing off the timing and jamming the gun?
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>>64648409
both are rapid fire devices but work differently

FRT is more of a broad term but examples include cassette style triggers like the rarebreed trigger and glock frt triggers

Super safety is a specific design made by hoffman that works differently
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>>64643582
Neat AF

>>64643364
>>64643572
>>64643700
>>64643711
Anon have you actually gotten a three position AK FRT working? I'm not saying it is impossible. Many have done it, but it does take some tinkering and goonsmithing.

>>64646402
Literally just a raregreed knockoff, without a good safety selector.

>>64648409
>actually reliable
I'm at 1400 rounds with my ASD Arc-fire with only one malfunction that might have been ammo related, flawless 1399 rounds otherwise, PLENTY of STRONG trigger finger pressure and no lock up.
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>>64648040
How do I make this work with a saiga 12?
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>>64648738
Don't converted saiga 12s use a standard AKM trigger group? Assuming it's not still in a sporter configuration, it should be the same as any other AKM.
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>>64648628
what handguard is this?
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>>64648748
the original lr300 proprietary one
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>>64648760
thanks
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>>64648746
Honestly I bought mine so long ago I couldn't tell you other than the fact it is converted.
I guess I need to try and do some research
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vz58 FRT soon bros
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>>64648851
oh shit, where is this from?
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>>64643273
Tx22 FRT is good to go? Saw some YouTube videos but YouTube is full of shills
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>>64648861
yeah it is, the original design would mess up something in the gun if used enough, but that's not an issue with the newer versions. for running suppressed, you either need a weight or an optic on the slide

also dont buy it from fft, fft has the older design and it's stupid expensive
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>>64648858
my garage
the pic isnt the complete set which is gonna include a trigger, that lever, a sear, and a striker, plus a safety selector for a 3 pos version
if all goes well, it'll be selling through my site, desert-meridian.com and also through vz58usa.com
its been a slow personal project though so its been real slow
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>>64648876
damn good shit man, I love innovation
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>>64648869
Thanks, how does that track for the comp model? The sight is on the barrel
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>>64648888
I do know it does work with the comp model, I havent seen footage of that though, mine and my buddy's is the gen 2 tx22 with the optic cut
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CX4 FRT coming soon
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Anything for the PMR30?
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HOLY SHIT GUYS DB9 FRT COMING OUT!!
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>>64649958
Which is fine, but does it fit the M11/9 Cobray lowers or just the printed/AR15 trigger group lowers?
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>no cp33 frt
I'm surprised there hasn't been one yet mine has been pretty flawless. I wonder if people have attempted but just found it not possible
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>>64643711
How do you suppose a full auto disconnector getting pushed out of the way by a full auto selector will help you select between semi and FRT
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>>64650465
That is exactly how it works. In the middle position the full auto safety selector removes the disconnector from operation, so that the hammer is not caught on the disconnector. The hammer is only caught on the main trigger hook, which happens because the reset cam resets the trigger far enough such that this catches, then the trip bar actuates the cam upon the carrier traveling forward, which then releases the trigger which then releases the hammer off of the primary trigger hook.

In the bottom semi auto position the full auto selector does NOT interact with the disconnector, allowing the disconnector to grab/hook the hammer during cycling. The key bit that anon didn't mention is that you "tune" the amount of reset forced by the cam/trigger bar ramp combination such that the amount of forced reset is NOT enough to unhook off of the disconnector in semi auto mode.

This is still an FRT because in the middle position the trigger is still being pushed forward and resetting to the main trigger hook the same way it would be in a two position setup, except in the three position setup the disconnector is simply out of the equation entirely. Some might think this is a machine gun, but it is important to remember that there still is no auto sear, the primary sear release is happening in the exact same place and way as a semi auto, and the trigger is being reset each time.

Here is a video of my sort of working three position setup. It honestly worked fine enough for a gay range toy, but if you cranked down hard on the trigger it would bind up.

https://streamable.com/ctps76
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>>64650542
So, like the binary triggers I made, its effectiveness rests on a finely tuned balance that ultimately will wear down enough to be unusable
Not fun
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>>64650654
>its effectiveness rests on a finely tuned balance that ultimately will wear down enough to be unusable
>Not fun
Welcome to life. This will happen to you.
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Recently got a 20 inch AR-15 from PSA and wanted to get an FRT for it.
I saw a company called Partisan Triggers released pic related, a drop in FRT. If anyone has gotten one, I'd love to hear your experience with them and if their reliable or not.
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>>64650654
technically yes but do you know how long it takes to wear down d2/s2 steel? You would have shot the barrel out probably several times before I get happens.
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>>64651061
I would also like to know how reliable they are, hopefully we can get some anecdotal reviews here
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>>64651350
I'm usually skeptical of anything new that is taking preorders. The temptation to "just send it" can become too much and bad batches get shipped. Youtube shows good results though and $300 seems like a reasonable price point where it can be made properly and still provide an adequate profit margin.
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>>64648040
Either of the regular AK packs they sell would be better suited. The beryl one would probably be more effort to get working in a saiga 12/vepr/etc.
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>>64651295
Surplus triggers and disconnectors are not made out of s2 steel
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>>64651567
The disconnector is not being worn during operation. The rear of the trigger bar very easily could be made aftermarket with the correct profile ramp built it hardness matched to the cam such that wear (primarily compression/rolling) would be a minimal issue, IMO.
Even then, it is pretty trivial to bake in the necessary tolerance so even as wear occurs, you still have enough ramp/profile to effectuate the reset.
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>>64651295
>le ebin S2 tool steel
Crumbles
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>>64651775
>Crumbles
Basically just evaporates before your eyes.
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Just got 3 more ARCs, got them from 3rd parties, I'm pretty sure new ARCs from asdeisgns are being sold today.

I hope whenever they make new selector styles, it doesnt require a new unit, just a selector
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>>64650654
>anon discovers entropy
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>>64651803
I meant tomorrow, apologies for the confusion
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>>64651803
>just a selector
I bugged them about it. You should bug them also.
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>>64652603
I sent an email a couple of days ago, didnt hear back yet
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Anyone get an Arc-fire running on an MCX or BRN180?

>>64652618
Bug them on IG and message the owner of ASD on Facebook. His name is Cal Olsen or Olson

He just bought a Ferrari. Good for him, but also where the fuck are our mil spec style safety levers?
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>>64653203
>Anyone get an Arc-fire running on an MCX or BRN180?
there was a guy here that did the mpx, you just need the trip that asdesign sells

asdeisgns also is making the trip for the brn180
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>>64653203
my god that is the ugliest AR i've ever seen
where can i get two?
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>>64653203
>>64652618
this was the response

>At this time we do not have a plan for how we will sell the parts. Likely we will have individual options but don't hold me to that as it is a down the road decision the owners will make when we are ready.
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>>64653479
>>64653203
something to be clear about, this was the email I sent

The response wasnt a decline of the multiple selector styles

>I heard regarding the ARC that there will be other selector styles in the future. Selector styles that has increased grip or more milspec looking selectors. If this is the case, would you guys sell the selectors separately or would this require an entire new purchase of the ARC as a whole?
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Anyone actually have a 3-pos Arizona Regulator, opinions? The boomer rants on the homepage are pretty funny while I was reading them I pretended that the guy is just drunk Mark Larue using a nom de guerre.
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>>64648851
as my design iterations go by the parts start to slowly look more and more like weird animal crackers
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>>64653490
>>64653479
Hmm yeah deebly gcongnbcerning
I am pretty confident that they have mil spec style selectors on the radar, but the timeline is basically totally up in the air, and whether it will be a whole new kit, or just lever upgrades also seems to be up in the air.

Fucking annoying.
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>>64648851
That's gunna be wild, alot of people don't know that the Vz58 is 800+ rpm fast as fuck boi
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>>64654967
Did you ever get the 3pos to work with the ALG trigger? I came across a reddit post about someone doing it with the ALG and not needing to replace the disconnector and only needing the safety and 3pos jig. That's my current plan when I start working on my 2nd ak frt trigger for my 23" vepr
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>>64655039
i might sell bolt weights independently aswell for people that want to slow it down a bit
i dont think it needs it, but if theres a demand then why not
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>>64655395
I got it sorta working. Vid related. Under hard trigger finger force it binds up, so IMO just a range toy. It is important to consider which cam and trip bar one is using I have been mainly working with this style:
https://www.performancetriggers.com/ak-super-safety-the-ak-hammer.html
The guy I think you're talking about I also chatted with, and I believe he used this style cam and trip bar: https://www.supersafetyshop.com/product-page/ak-kit-universal-akm-pattern
It is pretty weird and wild honestly, using the Zastava 1.5mm thick receiver pattern super safety shop style AK SS FRT in my friend's M72 Yugo RPK, we got his working pretty damn well three position, but like you and that reddit guy are sorta talking about, we discovered that it wasn't the interaction of the full auto safety selector and the disconnector that was resulting in three position function. I ended up chopping his selector to be more the semi auto profile to make it easy to install with the retaining plate, and the result is that the safety selector no longer disengages the disconnector in the middle position, and yet we're getting three position function. I think the angular orientation of the safety selector tang (which interacts with rear of the trigger bar) somehow is limiting the rotation of the cam to different degrees depending on what position you're in, and the result is that you get different amounts (amplitude) of reset depending if you're in the middle or semi position, which is why even when the safety selector tang isn't actually interacting with the disconnector, you can get three position function because in the middle position the cam reset amplitude is enough to get the hammer unhooked from the disconnector, but in the bottom semi auto position the cam rotation is limited to the extent that it can't fully unhook the hammer off of the disconnector. This is what I think is happening.
https://www.supersafetyshop.com/product-page/ak-kit-universal-akm-pattern
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new ARC batch is available now
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>>64654967
literally just now, from juicy media

https://reddit.com/r/supersafety/comments/1pqtz23/arc_fire_milspec_selectors/
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>>64655824
>>64655657
Gob fuggin bless
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my drop in FRT from bssquirts just shipped, pretty excited to test
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>>64657462
>my drop in FRT from bssquirts

These are like the AZ Regulator right, and are they 3 pos it seems that way but they don't out rite specify?
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>>64657533
pretty close in design, AZ regulator goes in the upper iirc. The bssquirts designs is just a metal version of the kubuto frt designs that's been going around and it goes in the lower

>are they 3 pos it seems that way but they don't out rite specify?

it is, you just need you get your own selector, m16 or kak 3 position style will work

I'm not sure on trigger compatibility though, geissele style hammers would need some type of lever blocker like asdesigns has
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>>64657533
this is how it works

https://youtu.be/YDoEMRZGuXE
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>>64646402
What do we think about this SSisters? I was thinking abiut getting an ARC trigger but since this is avout the same price and a singular thing, its a little more appealing to me
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>>64653203
What handguard is this, I have a mighty need
>A2 foregrip
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>>64657705
on paper it works the same as the rare breed which functions well. It's easy to use, just swap your trigger and you're done.

The ARC requires a trigger cut, a low shelf lower, sometimes the upper needs to be cut? (this was more for the super safety, not sure for the ARC). The advantage of the ARC is that you can use a larger variety of triggers and the ARC works on many platforms like the KUNA (with the nexus lower)

If you dont care about using other triggers that aren't milspec, usage of other platforms or not wanting to deal with cutting triggers then yeah sure, go for it.

I haven't used it myself, I do have experience with the DTT which I am basing my information off of.

The disadvantage of cassette FRTs were the cost which the partisan seems to solve and the fact that the mechanism in the trigger group can gunk up which makes it stop working until cleaned. That may not matter to you much though, probably matters more if you shoot suppressed.

Specifically regarding the partisan trigger, I'm not sure of the quality since the product is so new
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>>64657707

>>64648760
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>>64657937
>>64657705
something I want to add is that the ARC comes with a precut trigger, you need the trigger cut to run other triggers
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>>64657937
updating this a bit more, looks like nexus is making the DTT work for platforms they support like the new scoprion evo thing they are doing and the bren 2 lower they are making
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>>64657943
Its joever.
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>>64657576
>>64657533
>>64657550
That bssquirts is just a knockoff of the AZ regulator, which has been out way longer.
I'm all for proliferation, but it is a bummer that in the current market space we're seeing a ton of copy cats peddling bullshit.
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>>64655793
Where are you seeing this? Nothing new on IG and the production status page was last updated on the 8th. He never responded to me on IG when I ordered on the 8th for a MP5 clone. The ATF raided him and its Joever for me isn't it?
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>>64658858
It's on the page for the arc on the site, they added the next batch info a few days ago. ATF isn't going to take another run at FRTs until Newsom is in office, get them while you can.

That aside anyone actually install and run one of the Diablo AK frts? The Beryl one from the same company looks cool but there really aren't any in depth videos and I'd imagine it's exclusive to the Beryl due to the left side selector (it's only a selector not a safety). I think having an frt draco like a PM MD 90 clone with a can would be a lot of fun. They both seem to be pretty new, I'd really like to hear some personal anecdotes.
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>>64650056
>Which is fine, but does it fit the M11/9 Cobray lowers or just the printed/AR15 trigger group lowers?
?
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>>64657533
>>64658497
It's a kabuto TURD variant, not the AZ Regulator. The AZ regulator has 2 points of rotation while the TURD only has one. Don't personally have an AZ regulator, so I'm not 100% certain how it actuates, but they are different mechanisms.

I've been fiddling with kabutos for a while now. They are definitely more intensive to get working than a super safety, but having a normal selector switch is a great benefit (and now that I know what I'm doing I should be able to get it to work easier). WEBM related is one with normal send cut send internals in a housing I had machined out of aluminum. About to start experimenting with some with internals that utilize an unmodified M16 selector instead of modified KAK 3 position semi selector as soon as I get the new batch of parts from SCS. Trigger is an SSA-E.
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>>64643273
Anyone planning on having fartsausage at Christmas this year?
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>>64658858
a decent amount of third parties are selling them now, getting them shouldnt be an issue
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>>64658497
>>64657576
>>64657533
>>64657533
I stand corrected!

>>64659685
>>64658858
>>64655793
I believe Combat Armory and Muffintoptactical have live stock right now of Arc-fires. Muffintoptactical is solid, I've bought from him a bit.
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PSR on Beryl FRT

https://youtu.be/0Jtcmb_RjhI
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>>64643364
You mean like this?

https://x.com/printingguns/status/2002817760330699042

https://youtu.be/0Jtcmb_RjhI
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>>64664140
that's not 3 position, in the video he even mentions that
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>>64664159
Well then I give up. I am going to kms now.
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>>64649225
>>64649958
Source?
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>>64664215
https://old.reddit.com/r/Beretta/comments/1oqo555/cx4_frt/nsix4cg/
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>>64664584
>>64664215
he's partnering with griffith to bring it to market apparently

griffith made the beretta 92 frt
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>>64662862
HYPE SHILL LOL
not watching
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bamp
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I wish there was more footage of the 1911 frt
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Looks like there are more alternatives to allow FRTs for B&T platform

East Valley Tactical apparently has an option now, but it requires a rarebreed which is not included in the price

It's really expensive

https://youtu.be/bhgRbWwk-sA

https://www.eastvalleytactical.com/product/apc9-frt-conversion-service-does-not-include-frt-trigger
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>>64667128
adding more information here

The alternative to this is the lowers that asdesigns are making, but this would be a complete lower change and you would need a super safety or an ARC

I feel to me personally I would like the service by east valley because it uses the same lower and the safety is 45 degree

With asdesigns, you should be able to have more trigger options though
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>>64666898
https://youtu.be/ZEcyPOZs2o8

https://youtu.be/NmxBUZK1L1A

Only pistol FRT I care about going forward is a CZ75 just because the auto exists. I have the glock frt and beretta 92 frt
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Recently got an ACR, someone PLEASE tell me if the ARC works with it
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>>64668691
I'm not aware of a trip for it
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Are there AR FRTs without screws for the selector?
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>>64643273
So I was wondering if I say was in a state like south Dakota Iowa or Wisconsin specifically are frt and super safety readily available in gun stores or do you have to order them?
Pic related
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>>64669364
fudd arms super safety might be in some stores, but ultimately ordering them is the most convenient.

A lot of gun shows have booths that sell them too, I see them a lot in my state.
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>>64667128
>>64667187
The AS designs solution will be a bit over $600ish with arc pre installed (less with SS or without, just wait
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>>64668706
Its so over. Guess I'll justry buy that Geissele trigger
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Rarebreed Nov 2025 with surefire obc 11.5 carbine with a gas port of .067 with G bolt is gtg for 605 rpm, buffer weight with surefire is an h1 aswell.
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>>64670175
that's cool, iirc for the super safety you need to modify the bolt, I guess for the RB it just works?
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>>64670157
>>64670157
that's pretty reasonable
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>>64670175
what is that handguard
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>>64670752
Colt IAR

https://armsunlimited.com/colt-iar-upper-receiver-assembly-short-barrel/
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>>64670760
huh thats pretty cool
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>>64657462
has it shipped or does it just have a label printed?
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>>64670892
shipped, probably get it today
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>>64670896
damn mine says it's just got the label printed. this guy's ass to contact maybe I'll try through Twitter again
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>>64670914
he's good for it, you'll get it

lately there's been a ton of orders and holidays causing delays
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>>64670920
hope so. I'll wait a week and see. if not seems people get results taking to his x sockpuppet with a nigger jew pfp
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FARTSAUSAGE sisters, we got more goybox to watch!

https://youtu.be/hIPaBanf0_M
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3 position burst mode in ARC

https://x.com/tryhard_joe/status/2003533796201889823#m

Actually hyped
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>>64649225
does Beretta even make the CX4 anymore
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>>64672834
i've always shat on burst fire but now theres actually a chance of getting one i've suddenly got a hard on for an a2 clone
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>>64673136
A2 clone yeah is obvious here, but I wish it could work with selectors without screws
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>>64673178
you care about that sort of thing but i feel like we're lucky to have it at all
pass on it now and in 5 years they'll ban them again and you'll wish you bought one
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>>64673207
No you're correct, I was just being anal
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>>64668691
I would just wait for news, there are enough ACR's out there that it will happen its just that theres more important guns in greater number that need it first - XCR FRT is firing prototype btw. Franklin said they would restart production but that was circa 2022 because the gun is a patent nightmare with magpul. I would expect them to explore it harder as their bullshit binary trigger market is dead - who tf is buying a $600 HK binary, only the AR model still sells for the A2/A4 crowd
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>>64672830
good video
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>>64673239
that said, a while ago i drew up an m16 modification of the super selector in CAD with the intent to make it use a flathead screw and have it flush with the side
i was gonna sell it but then there was talk of atrius patenting their design so i decided against it but who knows maybe they'd be willing to license it out to me
you guys can fuck around with the files i made if you want but there were some modifications that it still needs to work that i dont remember about
https://odysee.com/M16-Super-Selektor-incomplete
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>>64673505
that's actually really cool of you to do! nice one!
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This is the list of platforms that either have FRTs available currently or has been confirmed in development. Please add to the list if I forgot any. I dont have a facebook so there is probably a lot there in groups.

AR platform
AK
HK MP5 platform
Steyr AUG
HK AP53
HK G3/91
BRN-180
CMMG Dissent platform
Springfield Kuna
SIG MCX platform
Stribog platform
Taurus TX22
Glock platform
S&W M&P platform
1911/2011
Beretta 90 series
Canik
PSA Rock 5.7
B&T APC series
B&T GHM9
PSA JAKL platform
CZ Scorpion
Beretta Cx4
Kriss Vector
CZ BREN 2
JTS M12AK
SIG P320
Ruger 10/22
Ruger PC Charger
FN PS90
FN M249S
B&T TP9
FN SCAR platform
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>>64673622
vz58
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>>64673634
No, I mean I'm nearly finished designing it myself, I mentioned it earlier in the thread
Also as someone in the know, theres a company working on one for the vz61 and the FAL
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>>64673631
sorry I was being retarded, the vz. 61 has a FRT with a ar fcg lower

I believe vz58 is in development as well by an anon here
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>>64673642
great stuff! adding it to the list
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>>64673643
I don't know if thats the same one as what I was told, but I believe the one they're working on is compatible with normal vz61 recievers. Also I am that anon, if it wasn't clear
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>>64673647
>compatible with normal vz61 recievers
That's extremely interesting

> I am that anon, if it wasn't clear
ah nice! I hope you're able to work with the platform successfully, is there test footage? Would it be 3 position?
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>>64673651
No test footage yet, since the first test firing was sort of a failure, but its been redesigned to fix the issues, and I'm waiting for the new set to be sent from a manufacturer
>Would it be 3 position
Yes, which is the main reason why its been taking so long. If I were just making a 2 position FRT it probably would've been done now. The last design actually failed because it was forcing the safety out of position
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>>64673705
that's sick as hell man, I would for sure be in line to get it when it's prime time

did you ever see these? Think they would be compatible?

https://youtu.be/BhJ70h0OcKE
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>>64673715
vz58s in any caliber or size should work since I believe they all use the same trigger system, the FRT should function just fine at any cyclic rate differences caused by caliber and it should be extremely hard for you to be able to pull on the trigger so hard that it doesn't function
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>>64667187
I do have to say, it is pretty fucking cool
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looks like s3igu2 is taking a crack at the vector. The DualityArmsCo vector FRT works but a lot of people have a lot of issues with it, a variety of issues although their CS is good. I have the DualityArmsCo FRT for the vector but I would look into the possible s3igu2 version more.

https://x.com/s3igu2/status/2003249515902665113#m

If he is working on it and asdesigns intend to sell it, that would be interesting since it's it's something they specifically say right now they are not working on.
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>>64673431
It really was helpful. I think it should be part of the OPs desu.
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>>64673622
>HK AP53
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>>64673729
> it should be extremely hard for you to be able to pull on the trigger so hard that it doesn't function
You fail to understand how furiously and frequently most anons masturbate
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I wish there was a SKS FRT in development, but you boys would not be able to handle it

https://youtu.be/GnuSbhxFoYA
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>>64673622
P90 and kriss vector.
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>>64673622
There was a MUCH, MUCH better list posted several threads back that denoted the current status of FRT's by platform by status (design phase, prototyping, firing prototype, pre-production and released)
You are missing a ton of platforms that were mentioned there and it clearly denoted shit like G3/HK91 being pre-production not released. It also elaborated on released but jank FRT's like 10/22 and glock
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>>64673622
God I can't wait for the TP9 one
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>>64674608
already on the list

>>64674753
Same, I would actually pick one up, seems like it's extremely difficult though
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Any news on the p320 FRT? An anon in here claimed he was in the latter stage of developing one with plans to sell it. Think it'll be an amazing upgrade for raiders
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>>64674846
from DualityArmsCo
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>>64674857
Very Nice. Thank you anon, and have a merry Xmas!
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>>64675095
absolutely, merry Xmas to you too!
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>>64674846
>An anon in here claimed he was in the latter stage of developing one with plans to sell it.
yeah, waiting to hear back from the ATF on their classification. may be a few months, nobody knows the real timeline. people ive met are saying it will take minimum two months. i've had the completed version for over a year at this point.
no idea what system the pic in >>64674857 will be but i doubt it will be the one i have come up with.
almost every pistol is using the same exploit. barrel tilt into trigger reset, which sucks. so likely they will as well. also mines selectable.
I have medium-larger companies already ready to jump on it but they want ATF's OK first. a lot of the smaller shops seem to be not asking any questions and just going for it.
also mine is very reliable, compared to other pistol FRT's where the reset doesnt always happen.
i'll ask if they are cool with video drops.
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>>64675159
well that's exciting, I would actually pick up a sig if this works well
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>>64675159
Recently got 2 320s. Don't know how old they are though so I'll probably have to send them in to SIG for upgrades. Very interested in this trigger, might pick up a flux kit too
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https://x.com/tryhard_joe/status/2003865354628649341#m
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>>64675159
>waiting to hear back from the ATF on their classification
Why?! Why are people still doing this boomerfud shit? You know if it's an FRT it's not something that is ambiguous. And even if the BEFAT division sends you a letter saying it probably isn't a MG according to current understanding or whatever bureaucrat weasel language they decide on come 2029 all that shit will be out the window. People have a few years to make as many FRTs as humanly possible without fed interference, the only real obstacle is how fast raregreed's paper mill can churn out the paper they'll print their bullshit lawsuits on. The ATF won't touch them again during this term because having to return the FRTs they stole was massively humiliating, and they don't want FRTs anywhere near SCOTUS.
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>>64675336
>Why?! Why are people still doing this boomerfud shit?
every super safety seller i've talked to has sent one in for classification, they got them back within 3 months with the new regime. And i bet all the other FRT makers have as well. People who are going to drop tens to hundreds of thousands on manufacturing components arent going to do it without confirmation. simple as.
The ATF may be in a bind, but that doesnt mean people want to just take on a bunch of risk. giving the government an excuse to raid you is a risk.
Sounds like they just get evaluated based on their legal bind, and send acceptance back.
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>>64675442
I would love see footage and I hope everything goes well because I am excited. I had zero interest in a flux raider until now
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What's the best option for a FRT/SS for an AK? I've got a WASR, if that matters.
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>>64675900
ALG AKT plus this kit:
https://muffintoptactical.com/AK-Super-Safety-Kit_p_14.html
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>>64675159
does this mean your design wouldnt require technique? I like my glock FRT but it requires some spring tuning and light trigger pressure or it is interrupted
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>>64675924
Are these 3 position like an AR SS, or just 2 position?
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>>64676321
I got it to work with stock springs and trigger. basically a stock gun. After getting more P320's ive noticed the springs have some differences between them. but it isnt really an issue so far.
>does this mean your design wouldnt require technique?
Death gripping can bind the mechanism, which is what the ATF looks for in determinations. But there is a middle ground that is easy to find. you can find it within one or two mags onward. I can just rip full mags back to back with no interruption easily. controlled bursts are fine too. no fine tuning or polishing just the parts installed. My issue has been the user trying to ride the trigger too lightly like with the browning action exploit FRT's. they learn fast though.
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>>64676371
Two position

>>64676321
>>64675159
>requires light trigger pressure
This makes it a useless range toy FYI
>Death gripping can bind the mechanism, which is what the ATF looks for in determinations.
Where the fuck are you hearing this load of bullshit?
Sounds like faggot gay cope on your end for a shit design.
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>>64676581
I'll make it nice and death-gripable just for you bro dont worry <3
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>>64676576
that sounds good, I'll be a bit more specific. Does using the FRT require any more thought than shooting normally or is it very intuitive?

Sorry for these dumb questions
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>>64676581
>This makes it a useless range toy FYI
isnt that what all frts are at the end of the day? especially handgun frts? you're not expecting to carry a handgun with an frt in it right?
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>>64675900
Diablo seems interesting, nobody here seems to have experience with one though.
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>>64673622
>CZ BREN 2
With the stock trigger and lower or do you have to get that gay AR-15 trigger group conversion?
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>>64677111
https://nexusfirearms.com/frt-bren-2-lower-receiver/
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>>64676819
It's pretty intuitive, for me and the few people i have handed it to. if you go past 9-10 pounds of pull it fails to reset most of the time. But since the stock trigger is around 6-7 its manageable. I have thoughts on how to make it even easier for the user. should be pretty easy to do that.
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bump
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>>64677720
nice very excited
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>3 round “limiters” are entering the market.
>I will be the exclusive source for info on this for the near future as development is being wrapped up.
>The guys at STINC aren’t convinced there’s a market for this so expect a rather small first release

https://x.com/tryhard_joe/status/2004224747035660670#m
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apparently asdesigns is also making a 45 degree selector
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>>64679945
apparently this is how it works, sounds kinda silly but if it works, it works
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>>64679972
sounds like how the m16 3 round burst works, but I'm curious how this doesnt require a new SS cam. How the m16 works is that on burst mode, the selector disables the semi auto disconnector but allows the burst connector to operate
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>>64679945
There's definitely a market - in A2/A4 clones. IMO if they partnered with a clone builder like PSA selling them equipped off the shelf they'd be printing money.
But just the trigger itself? Most will stick with normal 3 position unless they can make a 4 position which would be absolutely wild
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Beretta CX4 FRT footage

>We finished the design for the Brello Solutions CX-4 FRT this week and wanted to share some results. We're making our first batch of 4140 test units to send out to beta testers (which we still have a few slots open for ).

>There are some modifications that need to be made to the bolt and sear, but everything else is drop in to make things simple. We're super excited to see what everyone thinks and to be able to get something working for this platform!

https://old.reddit.com/r/Beretta/comments/1puww0a/the_cx4_just_as_bartolomeo_beretta_would_have/
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>>64679954
>4 position could be a thing
If this works with an MP5, I will cum. It's fucking awesome how fast development is taking off.
>mfw I lived through the gayest timeline (AWB) and managed to survive to get into a time where things like braces, SS, the Shockwave, and so on exist
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>>64680903
>>mfw I lived through the gayest timeline (AWB) and managed to survive to get into a time where things like braces, SS, the Shockwave
It is a miraculous time that should be appreciated before it is gone.
>t. nothing lasts forever
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Anyone got pictures of the Active Safety Designs Arc-fire and trip slip setup in an MCX

I'm curious how much work it would be to get something working in a LAW ARIC

>>64680708
Sick sick
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AR15 to AR10 compatability = 100%?
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>>64673622
0/10 list, try again, and next time tell us whats only a prototype, what's released and what isnt
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RareGreed jews sues Tim Hoffman (super safety) day before xmas eve

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USf4WnbwdJA
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>>64674547
hush holsters worked on one
https://youtu.be/9PfG3M0wA20
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>>64681477
>july 1st
its over.
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>>64681111
nice quads
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>>64681325
okay

>>64681477
how interesting, hopefully they still are?
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>>64681325
how about this? I want to stress that this list is not complete, this is just information I know personally

https://pastebin.com/raw/w2vdst9r
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>>64681477
Huh, and me sitting on 2 SkS-Ds that would appear to be just begging for a 2 position version of this. There is just so much dev going on and on-going!
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Hi I haven't lurked these threads at all, can someone just spoon-feed me what to buy for an MP5?
thanks
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>>64682500
MP5 and clones have a couple of options

- 3D printed lower, Leber which uses an AR FCG and allows for a super safety, a lot of people sell this as a plug and play option

- Lee sporting lower, this uses an AR FCG and allows for a super safety, it's recommended to not go down this route according the the MP5 frt creator. The geometry of the Lee sporting lower can cause issues. If for some reason you want to go this route, you can buy the lower yourself or have it assembled and whatnot by warhammer armament

- Asdesigns lower, this is version of the Leber which is made out of metal. This is designed by the mp5 frt creator and it allows for super safety and ARC selector (ARC operates like a standard AR lever rather than the push cross bolt from the super safety) function

- Rarebreed is making a FRT for the MP5 which seems to use a different MP5 lower which is modified but retains the MP5 look and probably trigger components.
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>>64682518
hmm, should I wait for the RB then?
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>>64682541
it's up to you, there is a lot of controversy regarding rare breed at the moment for good reasons, but besides that, it's not out yet and I'm not sure when it will be.

Today the best option is through Asdesigns imo, you can use the ARC and you have a ton of trigger options

If you dont care about any of that, then yeah wait

https://reddit.com/r/MP5/comments/1os42f6/rarebreed_mp5_trigger_from_cancon_today/
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ehh I'll wait another year for new stuff to hit the market
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>>64682668
that's pretty weird, asdesigns has great CS but sure I mean as a consumer, do whatever you like. I personally have asdesigns lower because I wanted to use better triggers, but the conceptual rarebreed version would be super cool too
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Speaking of ASDesigns, I'm getting one of their MP5 lowers soon. Is there a specific reason to buy the ARC over a normal SS?
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>>64682679
no, the ARC is just an option if you want a traditional lever, both operate fine
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>>64670752
That handguard was the SHIT in 2004. All the Blackwater guys had them
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>>64682668
>pic
Sounds like the competition is pissing in the well. This is where photos are actually required, not just petty allegations.
>inb4 cgi slop
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Thoughts on the Stribog or Scorpion as a good FRT host?
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>>64682541
>>64682653
>which seems to use a different MP5 lower which is modified
This is false as far as I'm aware. The entire selling point of the raregreed drop in FRT roller trigger pack is that it works with factory OEM style roller gun pack housings ("lowers").

>>64682679
>specific reason
Yes, the ARC-Fire uses a lever actuated safety selector as opposed to a push button. Push button type IMO is totally inferior. The position detents are significantly less tactile and secure, prone to shifting by themselves against gear, and the manual of arms of a push button selector is wholly ergonomically inferior to a lever, not to mention being different than traditional/legacy safety actuation mechanics for most platforms, introducing a serious training continuity issue.
Fine if you're just a trash shooting casual le fun boom gun heckin gun fun bullshit (grow up and be srs bidness like me)

>>64684254
Scorpions (I assuming CZ, not VZ61 Scorpion, which if you think about it says a lot about how gay and pozzed the CZ Scorpion is given that they straight up bit off a classic absolutely iconic historical firearm for their plastic fantastic out of battery detonating bullshit) are just bad guns, independent of being an FRT host or otherwise.

Stribog's aren't bad IME/IMO, but AFAIK there aren't really any readily available FRT/SS systems out there for Stribogs, mainly gunsmiths shoehorning stuff in them. I did see a guy on Reddit who does it as a service, but I think it requires permanent modification to either the upper, lower, both, requires and aftermarket AR FCG lower, and I think he's using 3D printed trips.
Basically IMO I would wait on a FRT Stribog untila better system/kit is developed.

Just get an AR ARC-Fire and throw it in an AR to scratch the itch for now IMO. It is by far the most proven reliable system at this point.
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>>64673622
>>64674608

sauce on the ps90 one? its just in development right?
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>>64684254
ASdesigns Stribog lowers + trips still pending release (with SS/ARC) sometime soon - they have UMP, Glock, CZ and MP5 mag options for the varying calibers.

After reading into the Vector and its issues and its gimmick non-locking "gravity delayed action" blowback nonsense, I opted to get a 10mm Bog and wait for the ASdesigns lower.
Blowback can suck a dick, there's a myriad of reasons why it's ass for FRT'a
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>>64681939
Much better, could use a breakdown on caliber specific instances like SCAR-16 v SCAR-17 trips and the varying AR calibers.

Missing important platforms like the MAC-10/11 - which require a AR compat printed lower like the Vz61
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>>64684659
The rare greed MP5 drop in isn't going to be worth a damn because it won't be compatible with G3/HK33 platforms - the whole point of a drop in option
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>>64684826
FN PS90 - Unreleased, There seems to be two solutions for this, Duality Arms Co is working on a solution as well as Dorin Technologies which would be unveiled during SHOT Show 2026.
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>>64685031
>Missing important platforms like the MAC-10/11 - which require a AR compat printed lower like the Vz61
this is the mac n cheese right?
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>>64684254
Default scorpion as a FRT host is a terrible idea, because of the material of the bolt was made from shitty metal, OOB can occur and blow the side of the receiver off. This is well documented.

If you swapped out the bolt to a nexus firearms improved bolt then yeah sure go for it, maybe upgrade the receiver to aluminum while you're at it

Stribog is cool though
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>>64685038
>G3/HK33 being the whole point of a drop in FRT
Are you retarded? The G3 is a terrible platform to shoot FRT/auto, and the HK33 in FRT/auto isn't anything to write home about either?

The 9mm roller guns are by FAR the most desireable auto/FRT instantiations, perhaps with the HK21 coming in second.

The whole point of a nice drop in FRT pack isn't to enable G3/HK33 or whatever nonsense you're spouting, it is to allow the 9mm roller guns to be FRT/SS without having dumb ugly aftermarket trigger pack housings which destroy the aesthetic of a classic iconic firearm, and in the case of crossbolt push button safeties truly ruin the manual of arms functionally.
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>>64685084
damn I want a mp5k like that.
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$1500 in stock. should I do it https://atlanticfirearms.com/mke-ap5-p-navy-pistol-
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>>64685190
That seems like a lot for an ap5, I thought they were about 1k? Is this navy version specifically different or am I just wrong?
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>>64685222
prices have increased, they just aren't 999 any more.
Yeah I want the smooth grip 100%
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>>64685231
>Yeah I want the smooth grip 100%
if you intend to put an FRT/SS in it then your options are

- 3D printed lower, Leber which uses an AR FCG and allows for a super safety, a lot of people sell this as a plug and play option

- Rarebreed is making a FRT for the MP5 which seems to use a different MP5 lower which is modified but retains the MP5 look and probably trigger components.
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>>64685084
>The G3 is a terrible platform to shoot FRT/auto
you dont understand, you just really dont understand anything
its not about the effectiveness, its about the orgasmic pleasure of magdumping .308 out of a g3 sbr
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does anyone know how the kabuto style frts work on a technical level? I'm assuming when the hammer is caught by the disconnector it presses down on it to let the hammer off again?
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>>64685084
>9mm roller guns are by FAR the most desireable
4u.
The G3/91 with a training bolt, DAG ammo and a drum is a perfect host for this range toy mod.
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>>64685231
>prices have increased, they just aren't 999 any more.
Nigga the full size were under $1k just 5 weeks ago. I do not believe the Ks are 50% more these days. Just be patient. They go on sale like every 4 to 6 weeks.
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>>64685678
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>that bullet tip poking out
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>>64685433
this is how it works, it seem to push down on the trigger itself to reset it
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Giving an update to the bssquirts drop in, I put it in my ar15 lower and it worked when dry firing my 556 DD upper.
It also worked when dry firing my 9mm upper on the same lower, the lower initially had some issues with the 9mm upper because I had an extended kak bolt extension with the law tactical folder.
I took out the extended extension and put the standard one back in and the upper worked just fine.
I sacrifice some mass but oh well, hopefully I have enough mass that I dont get an oob from bolt bounce.
I dont have to cut any weight on the bcg btw because I took the weight out entirely to use a law folder.
From my understanding glock lowers etc.. need the ar9 lever, but if the lower is an ar15 lower and you use a conversion, the normal lever works fine

I'm assuming the ar9 lever you dont have to cut your bolt weight either?

I'm going to the range to actually test this soon
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>>64686066
>lakers fans
Typical.
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>>64686577
I would buy thier product just because they made the effort to make this gif.
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>>64685190
I just paid 1700 for a braced AP5-SD. Very fun, can recommend. The can for it shows up tomorrow. Money is *largely* no object for this build. I'm just copying the Brandon Herrera video, except I'm not doing the actual ported barrel because that sounds tedious. It'll be my first can :)
Blogpost over, happy holidays
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yeah
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>>64688141
I accept this post as a yeah.
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>>64687504
if money is no object, why not get an hk sp5 instead of a clone?
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the shit i do for this hobby
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>>64689170
this is from scs?
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>>64689189
no?
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>>64685048
Yeah, actually there's other printed recievers that can FRT but yeah.

>>64685084
A drum and a bipod and a prone shooting position is all it takes to make a G3 useful with an FRT.

You already had the Leber v2 if you wanted to keep the aesthetic - and it will work with the AP53 as well.
If the Rare Breed can't work in a G3 or HK33 it will never work in a HK21 or HK23.
It's fucking useless and who would bother making trips for it when there's a better competing product and 2 upcoming drop in's?
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>>64689170
The fact that Protolabs flat out refuses to fine tune any dimension more accurately than +/-.005 is incredibly gay and revolting. I know, I tried.
I hate them so much. I will not use them unless absolutely necessary.
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How do I get an FRT to run smoothly in an AR-9?
My brother gave me his old WOT Trigger he got years ago before the ban because he got a 3-position recently. I didn't see a point in putting a 2-position in any of my regular ARs, so I put it in my old AR-9 (16"). It just does like 2-3 rounds and then it fails to fire. I spent a lot of time making it run smoothly in semi-auto years ago for SCSA.
Specs of my AR-9
>7.5oz Heavy PCC Buffer
>AR-10 Spring
>Fox Trot Mike 9mm BCG
What do I have to do to optimize it for an FRT? I don't compete in SCSA PCC anymore and I don't feel like spraying 223/5.56 when I could do it with 9mm.
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>>64689950
https://blowback9.wordpress.com/2025/08/03/sscs/
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>>64689170
what is this for?
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>>64689810
thats gay, but in my case those are within my expected tolerances all around
i also like that instead of saying "we cant machine this part" or machining that part and making it super expensive, they'll automatically modify the file for it to be more feasible for them to do and show it to you with the option to use the changes to save time/money
>>64689970
this
>>64648851
the design is effectively finished, it works perfectly as far as i can tell with 3d printed parts but plastic is just gonna break
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>>64689977
nice, hopefully footage soon?
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>>64689170
JLC?
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>>64689977
what is it
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>>64690055
once i get it yea
the last one was sort of working but had loads of problems, like i couldnt get it to work reliably with three position, it would only work on century rifles, it was fragile, would jam the bolt
this new one fixes all of that
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>>64673207
>they'll ban them again and you'll wish you bought one
This makes no sense at all whatsoever. If you're willing to have your dogs killed you can use a real auto sear. If you're not then you will destroy your FRTs if they're banned. What is your logic here?
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>>64691012
wat
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>>64680708
Too bad Beretta killed this platform
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>>64691012
I think he is imagining a world where existing FRTs are grandfathered but new ones are banned
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>>64672830
>So you bought and FRT... but it won't work, now what?
demand a refund, obviously
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>>64691499
still cool though
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>>64691012
i mean, you cant really just buy machine gun conversion devices, registered or not
if they get banned and you still want them you'll have to make them yourself, which i garauntee the average retard on /k/ cant
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>>64691991
i mean you can buy registered ones, but nobody here can afford one
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are frts considered ITAR restricted?
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>>64692150
Anything that has anything to do with firearms is ITAR unless you can convince the state department it isn't. You even have to pay ITAR regardless of whether or not you sell internationally.
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>>64692150
How can you rstrict an illegal part?
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>>64692168
i thought gun accessories were only ITAR if they're for a gun classified under USML category I
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>>64692197
The onus is on you to prove that your part is not relevant to military use. The state department assumes that everything that is part of a weapons system, down to the most innocuous parts and accessories are ITAR regulated (which doesn't mean you can't ship them internationally, just that you need approval for destination countries). I don't know of anyone that seriously challenges it because if you sell firearms or their accessories you already are dealing with things that are indisputably ITAR regulated and have the infrastructure to deal with it without incurring additional cost on parts that you think shouldn't be regulated, but are anyway.
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>>64691991
>average retard on /k/ can't
Boogles are like 15 minutes and 10 cents of filament on a $100 amazon special printer. If you want to do it "right" there are many sellers of M16 LPKs as well as M16-pocket lowers you can buy for the naughty hole. You can even print no-hole sear holders.

Full auto is not difficult. The advantage of FRTs is being able to be fully semi auto fully legally. So the primary reason to buy one in anticipation of bans is also anticipating the ban will have grandfathering. Which would be pretty ineffective on the gungrabber's part since super safeties are just as easy as boogles to make at home but entirely possible since many bans have been enacted in this manner.
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>>64686914
they gave me a tracking link ten days ago and it still says UPS hasn't received it. I'm beginning to think my order was lost.
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>>64692246
>anticipating the ban will have grandfathering.
>assuming
How quaint.
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>>64689677
>better competing product
>Cross bolt push button selectors
>Ugly ass aftermarket housings and ruin the aesthetic historical appeal
Not my fault you simultaneously have no taste nor mind for functionality
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>>64692344
I don't expect such myself but just sayin that is the reason. I'm happy I can play with FRTs legally for now anyway. If they do get banned entirely with no grandfathering I'll of course comply with all laws, regulations, and opinions of the ATF, even the contradictory ones.
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>>64692381
>I don't expect such myself but just sayin that is the reason. I'm happy I can play with FRTs legally for now anyway.
Very much the same! Buying CZ Scorpion in advance!
>If they do get banned entirely with no grandfathering I'll of course comply with all laws, regulations, and opinions of the ATF, even the contradictory ones.
Very much the same! Buying chop saw in advance!
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>>64692246
>no hole sear holders
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>>64692442
There are literal 3d printed auto sears that are drop in so you don't have to permanently modify your lower. They don't work off of a hinging acton like the boogle and are selectable
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>>64692442
Not really that exciting, just holds the auto sear from the M16 LPK in the right spot with a shorter pin that fits within the receiver. I've seen at least 3 different designs floating around. Functionally the same as drilling the hole but the legality is different, with this the thing you print is legally the machine gun whereas when you drill the hole the receiver becomes legally the machine gun. Don't print it unless you are 07/02 obviously.
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>>64692267
hmm, I know mine took a while to ship too, I would try to message them I guess
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>>64692497
> with a shorter pin that fits within the receiver

What kind of pin? I'm not going to make it, just for curiosity of the engineering perspective
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>>64692825
>just for curiosity of the engineering perspective
I smell prosecutable constructive intent.
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>>64692825
1/8" pin, you can make pins out of drill bits which is a favorite trick of mine when building kits. Drill out holes, unchuck the bit, push it through, and cut it off flush.
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>>64692831
nah, promise, I just like to know how things work

>>64692914
how does it stay in the receiver without moving around?
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>>64692933
In an autosear the spring sits in a groove in the pin. In a drop-in housing like that the walls of the receiver hold it in. In some firearms it's just friction and tight tolerance holding a pin in place.
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>>64692488
>>64692497
Interesting. Are these on Odysee somewhere? I dont even have a 3d printer, just curious
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So since there's a p320 frt in development, how difficult would it be to make one for the 365? Would be great in the flux raider. And less prone to mag dump on accident
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>>64692997
how interesting, I would think it's a bit unsafe to keep the auto sear only in there from friction yeah? slight movement of it could potentially cause mistiming and oob or light strikes right?
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>>64693149
I think you're confused. AR auto sears are not held in place with a friction fit. As >>64692997
explains the pin is held in place by a spring leg in a groove (normal installation) or by the walls of the receiver (no-hole sear holder being discussed). Not that there's anything wrong with friction fit pins when they are perpendicular to recoil. Your gas block is held in place by friction fit pins. Everything in a glock is held in by friction fit pins.
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>>64693306
gotcha, yeah I think I was confused, I was thinking how would this piece here >>64692497 fit in the receiver without a hole drilled, and the answer is friction apparently which is neat

>Not that there's anything wrong with friction fit pins when they are perpendicular to recoil. Your gas block is held in place by friction fit pins. Everything in a glock is held in by friction fit pins.
gotcha, fair enough, thanks for the explanation
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>>64693385
No it is wedged between the safety and rear of the receiver, it ain't goin anywhere. Some other designs use the rear takedown lug like a boogle.
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Niche as fuck but they still make these on custom order. Someone needs to make an FRT for it
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>>64693910
that would be neato
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>>64693910
the most epic of .22s ever
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Is Beretta 92G (decocker only) compatible with FRT or does it have to be standard 92FS?
>inb4 Italy is niggers
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>>64695325
there seems be a lot of variants that do work including the frame mounted safety 92GTS, not the single action only version

regarding your case, I don't see why it wouldnt work
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>>64695347
grazie
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more 1911 FRT footage

https://youtu.be/gHXZmIvIJPI
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It's out!!!

already ordered 3
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>>64695485
That resembles the badger. nice.
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>>64695811
badger?
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>>64696042
I really like this safety selector.
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Anyone have experience with an "Arizona Regulator" drop-in FRT accessory? It seems like it would work with my PWS rifle.
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>>64696422
I haven't used it myself but I heard great things about it, I recall one anon here that did use it and liked it
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>>64692376
>two competing drop ins in development
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>>64648414
Super Safeties only work in AR lowers. FRTs can work in ARs, but they range in design whereas the SS basically doesn't.
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>>64693142
>p320 frt
Lol I can see the train wreck coming
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>>64696807
what do you think would happen? simulated full auto after charging the round?
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>>64696822
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>>64696838
I would be scared too! how did this happen? I've seen this before and never knew. This was of course before the beretta frt existed.
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Anyone have that webm of the cutout ar showing the action running with an SS? Can't remember which company put it out.
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>>64696841
firing pin must have gotten stuck in the forward position somehow which turned it into a temporary open bolt machine gun
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Anyone got an Arc-fire in their MCX or BRN180?
Can I get pics of how the slip trip fits in the lower and how it actuates off of the carrier forward motion?

>>64695485
>>64695811
Based as fuck thank god. Ordered.

>>64696598
>drop ins
Source on them being drop in to factory style housings?
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>>64696850
this?
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>>64696864
damn, good thing no one was hurt
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>>64696874
One has confirmed full capability with steel and polymer factory housings and has just started fucking with HK33 variants as well, .the other is in an earlier stage of development and has only tested early style polymer SEF.

Rare breed is not going to be the only game in this town with a drop in and its going to under deliver and be overpriced, more importantly compatibility with the other platforms is paramount not only because G3, HK33/53, HK21/23 but also it opens the door for HK roller builds in .300blk, 7.62x39, 10mm, .40sw, .22lr etc to gain traction and FRT's, not to mention you're a mere hop skip and a jump to a G36 & HK433 FRT.
A hammer swap is all it takes to swap a HK F/A trigger pack between all the roller platforms, we should be expecting no worse than a hammer and a trip swap
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please whoever make the new op put a news section, like new developments or something

maybe add a better version of this list
>>64681939
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>>64697765
>more importantly compatibility with the other platforms is paramount
What part of a drop in pack for OE style pack housings don't you understand? A 9mm trigger pack is the same as a 7.62x51 NATO G3 pack except for ejector and hammer spring? Similarly for the 33/53 or 300blk (57) etc.

>>64696878
Saved, nice.
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>>64668691
real ACR, or the better, cheaper aftermarket clones?
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Pretty sick deal on cat suppressors today with silencershop, the wb seems like a good can to pair with frt. Any thoughts?
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>>64698109
I use the wb in inconel with the ARC/FRT, it's great honestly. Sounds great with limited back pressure and gas in the face
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>>64697765
>not going to be the only game in this town with a drop in
Just post anlink and take my fucking money already!
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>>64686914
Update, come back from the range. The drop in the ar9 ran perfect and was super fun to shoot.

I also put the drop in my friend's m16 clone and it ran like a top

I recommend it
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Ordered Arc-fire mil spec style selectors, long both sides. Stoked.

Anyone got an Arc-fire in an MCX? Looking for pictures of how the slip trip actuates presumably off of the trip notch on the underside of the carrier.
Also anyone run an FRT or SS or similar in an MCX? Any bolt bounce issues?



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