>40m with a pistolBe honest /k/, how many shots would you need?
>>64645295>40mEven with adrenaline and chaos all around you that is not terribly far unless you have a weak purse gun.
>>64645297Go shoot a moving torso target at 40 yards with a pistol and get back to.me.
>>64645295One, I spent years dinging 12 inch plates with a colt 1851 at 50 yards. It's quite easy when you get into it and that's a cap and ball. With one of my centrefire revolvers in 44 it would be like shooting at an elephant..
>>64645297>Australian police forces primarily use the Glock semi-automatic pistol (most often the Model 22 or Model 17) or the Smith & Wesson M&P .40 S&W semi-automatic pistol as standard issue firearms.Iron sights are nigh guaranteed. Don't be shy now, no one is gonna laugh at you.
>>64645301Yeah I've done that too on swinging steel plates. You aim at your point and wait until the target enters it. It's not rocket science and not particularly difficult you just think it is
>>64645295what kind of vest is he wearing
Law enforcement cant shoot as well as /k/ posters though
>>64645309At 40 yards? Most pistol ranges are 25 you fucking liar.
>>64645295I've hit apples at 25 yards so a significantly larger target at less than double the distance sounds doable
ITT: Lies
>>646452951 with a red dot 2 or 3 with iron sights
>>64645295Any halfway passable pistol shooter should be able to hit a torso sized target out to 50m the majority of the time. Decent shooters can hit that target almost every time.What makes the shot more challenging is that it was in an actual firefight i.e. the shooter's adrenaline is fucking with their aim, and the target might not be holding still and/or is shooting back. But in terms of raw marksmanship, hitting a man shaped target at 40 meters isn't anything amazing.
>>64645295>need1. But I'm magdumping and reloading anyway.
>>64645316Look, I know guys who shoot pistol silhouette and can hit the small ones set up at 50M every time. I don't give a shit about whatever shitty range you magdump at. I'm not even a particularly good pistol shot, if you don;t now that it's actually not difficult to hit 12 inch plates at 50 yards repeatedly even with a cap and ball with a (very small) bit of practise you need to sit down and rethink your shooting because there are people way better than me, I'd say I'm very average. With a five inch barrel 44 its an easy easy shot on a man sized target. I don;t shoot wonder 9s or even own a glock.
rate my stance
>>64645305From some reading, NSWpol are currently phasing out .40 Glocks for 9mm as their service handgun.And yeah, don't think I've seen any with red dots or the like.
>>64645331Dad/10
>>64645333red dots on handguns are cancer and would be no help at all to me shooting at 50 yards
>>64645327>But in terms of raw marksmanship, hitting a man shaped target at 40 meters isn't anything amazing.You're fucking high, goofball. Go shoot a moving torso at 40 yards and come back here and tell me it's easy. People on this board CONSTANTLY overstate their fuckign marksmanship abilities because NONE OF YOU ACTUALLY FUCKING SHOOT
>>64645330> I know guys who shoot pistol silhouette and can hit the small ones set up at 50M every timeWe've gone from "it's not that hard" to "I know a guy who can do it".You're fucking lying. At 50 yards you front sight post is going to cover the entire torso. It is a hard shot even for seasoned shooters.
>>64645304Yeah dude I could hit playing cards at 100 yards with a flintlock pistol back in the day. Like shooting fish in a barrel!
People ITT think because they can get a dinnerplate sized group in a target at 7 yards they can shoot a man sized target at 40. Next time you're at the pistol range put your target ALL THE WAY back at the 25 yard line and see how good your groups are. I dare you.
>>64645360Can you not read. I said I spent years ringing 12 inch steel plates with a cap and ball colt 1851 at 50 yards and would find hitting a man at 50 yards with a five inch barrel 44 mag EASY. What I also said is there are people who shoot FAR better than me competitively at 50 yards. I don't know what the fuck your problem is but again, I'm not a particularly good pistol shoot, its not my main shooting interest, I'm very average. The fact you find what I'm telling you unbelievable really means you can't shoot at all. You're one of those mag dumping spastics with a glawk who'd only ever used it at an indoor range are you? Not my fucking problem.
>>64645372Lying faggot. You're not going to be able to SEE a 12 inch plate at 50 yards with pistol iron sights. The post will literally be bigger than the target. I'm sure you could get hits slowfiring off a bag rest or something but if you noticed in the OP we're talking about offhand shooting on a moving target. You're an egotistical liar who doesn't shoot.
I notice a lot of shooters vastly overestimate distance on unmarked ranges. They'll put a target out at "20 yards" and it will be like 15 feet from the firing line. Might be the cause of some of the hubris in this thred.
>>64645378Go try it and when you do post an apology. Its not hard at all.
>anon absolutely SEETHING that someone is actually worth a shit with a pistolLol.
>>64645295Not the easiest shot, but also not the hardest. Not gonna lie, I'm not enough of a pistolero to make that.>>64645314Generally also true, unfortunately.>>64645316Not everyone shoots at an indoor range.
>>64645347>Go shoot a moving torso at 40 yards and come back here and tell me it's easy.You're an actual cancerous fucking retard and being disingenuous to defend your absolute cocksucking dumb opion. Fuck off back to r*ddit idiot.>MUH MOVING TARGETBoth sandniggers were almost stationary, neither were in a run moving fast or unpredictably, The father who got taken out got shot from the side/back, the son was mulling about a little and wasn't in a sprint or even so much as a brisk walk. Fuck of with your moving torso bullshit.
>>64645385I actually shoot my guns so i know what shooting at a moving mansized target at 25 yards looks and feels like. At 40 hitting the target is going to be more luck than skill. Anyone claiming otherwise is overestimating themselves or underestimating distance. If you continue to claim otherwise you are confirmed noguns LARPer.
>>64645398You don't shoot your guns. Or worse, you magdump at 7 yards and think your dinnerplate sized group means you're John Wick.
>>64645402Certified anglo phenotype
>>64645399Your a fucking retard. Go try it and stfu
>>64645387Yeah, it's funny. Shooting a pistol is certainly much less easy than a rifle, but it's not impossible to learn by any means, and we're not talking about some 200yd shot here.>>64645399>At 40 hitting the target is going to be more luck than skill.Nigger, PLEASE.
>>64645321Most people overestimate themselves. Firearms enthusiasts doubly so. 90% of shooters would have a hard time.hiting a moving man sized target past 20 yards but I guarantee 90 percent would also say they could make this shot. The truth is a 40 yard shot is hard as fuck to make offhand with a pistol.
>>64645400>magdump at 7 yards and think your dinnerplate sized group means you're John Wick.This
>>64645407>The truth is a 40 yard shot is hard as fuck to make offhand with a pistol.Average on a man sized target, Hitting the ten at 50M on a 100 yard rifle target setup at 50 regularly is hard/skilled.
>>64645387I'm impressed at a very difficult shot. Everyone else ITT seems to be seething at the fact that the shot is in fact difficult>>64645405I have. Any moving target past 20 yards is hard as fuck with a pistol. You would know this is you had guns and used them but you don't.>>64645406Noguns cope.>>64645413No it's not. You would know this if you had guns and shot them.
>>64645378>You're not going to be able to SEE a 12 inch plate at 50 yards with pistol iron sightsI probably wouldn't, because my eyesight is dogshit, but people make those kinds of shots in competition all the time, and I'm not even talking about the pros and the guys who have been doing it for 30 years, I mean guys who have practiced for just a couple of years and shoot somewhat often.You sound like my fudd dad refusing to recognize the idea of pistol marksmanship actually being a thing at all.
>>64645419We're now moving the goal posts to competition shooting. I again refer to the OP. An offhand shot at 40 meters with a duty handgun with duty sights on a moving man sized target. That is a HARD FUCKING SHOT. Anyone claiming otherwise has never shot a pistol.
>>64645417>Any moving target past 20 yards is hard as fuck with a pistol.When you're green, yeah.
>>64645429You've never fired a handgun
>>64645432Yeah I have.
>>64645436In that case you're just lying
>>64645347Of course it isn't a trivial shot, but you acting like it's fucking incomprehensibly hard shot that virtually nobody could do is just comical.
>>64645295I'd definitely hit them within a mag, no promises of actually downing them with a head or heart hit but I'm confident I could replicate a shot under controlled conditions. With adrenaline though, I don't think so
>>64645403>Cesar Barraza>Anglo
>ITT: OP acting like a 7 out of 10 difficulty shot is actually 12 out of 10>lashes out
>>64645466You don't get it, Bondi PD is an elite organization staffed with only the most godly gunfighters on earth. Only the glock god named Ceasar could ever perform such a legendary feat of marksmanship
>>64645402You can laugh but that fat fuck with his mexican dadbod is going to be absolutely smashing 19 year old rookie pussy every week for the next 20 years.
>>64645466>>64645490>t. 100% couldn't make the shot themselves
>>64645301>how DARE you have confidence in your abilities!40m is tricky but doable. also the shooters were fatasses
>>64645491im not laughing im in awe
>>64645501>the shooters were fatassesfatasses behind concrete cover exposing only their shoulders and heads*
>>64645491I don't remember this Riley Reid scene. Sauce?
>>64645500anon half the posters in this thread have never even fired a gun.I dont think I would have scored a first round hit. The shooters were partially concealed up to the chest by a foot bridge railing from the position that the detective shot at.
>>64645372There are no competitions at 50 yard you fucking idiot. Not with pistol anyway.
>>64645444Checked and virtually no one ITT could do it.
>>6464553250 meter pistol is a real thing, retardo-sama
>>64645520And the detective was shooting up at them from ground level.
>>64645491>>64645512Just an endless parade of impressionable daddy issues uniformed whores straight out of school.
I could probably land two or three from a full magazine under that kind of stress, but really only with the handgun I have practice with.
>How many could make a shot with a 9mm pistol off-hand on a moving target behind concrete cover, only exposing it's head and shoulders, a target that is also actively returning rifle with a large caliber hunting rifle?>If the question is how common would it be, in the real world, for someone to successfully do that under the conditions you describe, the honest answer is:>Vanishingly few—effectively almost none.>At a high, non-tactical level, here’s why:>Off-hand pistol accuracy is already limited, even for skilled shooters, compared to supported or two-handed, controlled conditions.>A moving, partially exposed target (head and shoulders only) dramatically reduces hit probability.>Concrete cover removes most of the target and introduces visual and timing constraints.>Being actively fired upon by a high-power rifle imposes extreme stress, physiological effects (adrenaline, tunnel vision, loss of fine motor control), and a powerful incentive to prioritize survival over precision.>Real-world combat is not a shooting range: visibility, unpredictability, fear, and chaos degrade performance far beyond what even elite training can fully overcome.>Even among:>competitive pistol champions,>elite military or law-enforcement units,>highly experienced combat veterans,>this would be considered extraordinarily unlikely and not a reasonable expectation. It’s the sort of feat that appears in movies or fiction far more often than it occurs in reality.so that settles it then
>>64645316distance at the pistol range is like weight on the barbell. That number goes up frequently as the recounting is morphed into a story. Like me, personally? I ring the gong at 75m with my ppk easily and bench 315 for reps on an empty stomache, really anyone should be able to do this idk why so many struggle
Did he hit though? I dont think I'd land any. Not because the distance itself is impossible but because of adrenaline, moving targets who are only partially exposed AND returning fire. And because I'd be knowing that any wasted seconds or shots would likely cost lives.
>>64645331Does the gut help in this situation?
>>64645295I’d say my chances are pretty good.
>>64645316>25 yards indoor rangeYou don't shoot your pistol at rifle range for funsies at distance? Even short rifle ranges outdoors are fifty yards.
>>64645331That's actually pretty good. He's using the tree for stability so should be on easy mode.
>>64645399>I actually shoot my guns so i know what shooting at a moving mansized target at 25 yards looks and feels like. At 40 hitting the target is going to be more luck than skill.>actually shoot my gunsShooting guns and knowing how to shoot are different things anon.
>>64645295No idea. I've never shot a pistol at a moving target. I'm consistently able to land hits on a B27 target at 75 yards off hand (and by that I mean somewhere in the black, no "group" to speak of) with a browning hi power. I usually only shoot my carry pistol (glock 23) out to 25 yards. I figure I could probably get a hit if I used a tree or something for support. Hopefully the first few shots will make the shooter freeze and give me a chance to draw a bead, otherwise I'm going to try to suppress and maneuver closer for a better shot if I think he's going to hurt my family or blast a few rounds to suppress and run away if my family is not in danger.
>>64645295Dickens drill?
>>64645515>hasn't seen the footage from the other angle where they were totally opengay
>>64645316Lmfao
no one itt has posted groups, so as far as I'm concerned everyone is just shitposting
>>64645347Guy was pretty stationary you dumbfuck annoying ass hes holed up in a spot turning around making baby steps and shit he wasn't fucking sprinting across the beach and hit while on the move you fucking stupid animal
>>64645295I personally shoot 200 meters with a derringer 2MOA BOOM headshots
>>64646199See>>64646035
>>64645558I found this image that overlayed a glock at where the detective took his shots from a google street view screenshot. Very impressive, reminds me of that Air Force MP back in the 90s that got a 50 yard headshot on an active shooter with his M9 on DA
>>64646284forgot pic
>>64645316It takes me about 18 rounds or so to hit a small torso sized target at 100 yards. I could get that down further with a red dot and more practice.
>>64646284Ain't got nothing on Texas horse cops. This was against a dude with an assault rifle shooting at the police.>While maintaining a grip on the reins of two noticeably agitated horses and steadying his aim aside the pillar he used for cover, Sergeant Johnson fired a single shot at the gunman from an estimated distance of just over 100 yards. His round struck and fatally wounded the gunman, instantaneously ending the deadly threat.
>>64646327>When the gunman paused and began to reload his assault rifle, Sergeant Johnson decisively intervened to stop the threat of further violence by taking aim at the gunman with his issued handgun.
>>6464542840 yards, what's that in human distances? 36 meters?Well. It has been a long ass time since I've been taught any tactics. Call me rusty, call me stupid. BUT. It seems like the obvious solution to move closer to your target for a sure shot. At a distance you can't guarantee your shots wont go hitting, say a civilian in the background. And by missing you're potentially causing the terrorist in question to return fire, completely negating the advantage you had. You wouldn't be stopping the attack, it would simply continue with the only armed guy(you) in the area being pinned down. Or worse, your sorry ass becoming a casualty instead of the hero you so desperately wish to be. And even if that wouldn't happen you don't have the luxury of plinking until you succeed, because people are, you know, being shot to death. And your assumed purpose is to stop that from happening, not take potshots. Not to mention it's not a long distance even for a fat ass, you will get there in no time, unless your mode of travel is by a tactical mobility scooter.But what do I know. I'm just an asshole.
>>64645378I've hit a milk jug at ~75ish yards with my revolver.
>>64645309Is your steel plate shooting .223 or 12g back at you? No.
>>64646051Stability and cover. He was being shot at by a rifle.
>>64645295Probably a mag or two to fully put them down. I'm confident I'd get at least one or two good hits in the first few shots though.t. Handgun hunter/USPSA autismo
>>64645532In some pistol services matches we shoot up to 50 yards off hand supported where i would hit the target with my 6” revolver. Idk anything about the adrenaline messing with a shooter though these cops shoot a lot.
>>64645515what do you want us to do, OP, apologize for our insolence?
>>64645316A capable shooter can shoot a 2 inch group at 50 yards with a Glock
>>64645295If he's standing still, first one is a hit.If he's moving, 3-5 for a hit.
>>64645659Lowers the center of gravity for improved recoil control. It's a tactical necessity at those ranges.
>>64645295>Cesar>Muslim immigrants shooting JewsAre there any actual Australians left?
>>64647549Theres a bit under a million real Australians. They have had it hard since the anglo immigrants started invading the place.
>>6464529540? With my G-26 I'd need 4 or 5 and hit 2-3 of them.
>>64647462I'm assuming this is sarcasm
>>64647462Shut the fuck up no guns.There is no such thing as a stock Glock that has the mechanical accuracy to print a 2 inch group at 50 yards. The Glock 34, the most mechanically accurate stock Glock, prints a 1 1/2 to 2 inch group at 25 yards. The absolute physical best a stock Glock could do at 50 yards is a three inch group; using match or hand loaded ammo fired from a bench vice without any wind. Add a human shooter using factory ammo and your claim of a 2 inch group at 50 yards isn’t even a pipe dream. It’s the claim of a goddamn idiot that needs to keep their mouth shut when the adults are talking.
>>64646352>metricuck>ego the size of a houseTypicalYou've probanly never even shot a handgun before
>>64646322Your dot is going to be four times the size of the target at that range. My god, you people are proud and dumb.
>>64645491I cannot express how vomit-inducing I imagine Australian sex noises. The sounds they make normally is sickening enough.
>>64647589Pygmies were in Australia before the Abbos.
>>64645370I have the good fortune of being able to go out into an empty spot of land and do whatever. There's years worth of people's target practice trash, and I usually bring a gallon jug of something to drink plus some cans.With a pistol, when I'm done checking the zero and doing a few mags of practice I usually spend a few mags taking potshots at whatever the hell I want.20-30yds is nothing. 40-50 takes a few tries to rip a solid hit into a drink can.A moving fat guy at 40? Might get a shot or two out of 12+1.
I'm assuming Australia police don't have patrol rifles
>>64645295The most important thing is everyone has fun
>>64647663Target is 12 inches at 100 yards so almost 12 MOA. Who the fuck has a 48 MOA dot?
>>64647706I seriously don't get this weird contrarian movement of "Red dots aren't actually helpful" despite around a decade of people proving they are in fact helpful. How the fuck does removing sight alignment and quite literally having infinitely more sight radius not improve your long range shooting?
>>64645331Integral Sandbag deployed
>>64647689So you're the guy putting targets out at 40 feet on an unmarked range and going "yeah that's totally 40 yards".
>>64647691ofc not they're dangerous!>>64647700I have fun watching you gaylords bait eachother into having emotional reactions because that's totally not a faggoty gay thing to do
>>64647706Go ahead and try it. I dare you. It will be the first time you've ever shot a handgun.
>>64647836Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Didn't that one mall food court hero get a running perp at 35+?
>>64647462and I bet you shoot a mauser 98k sub MOA too
>bro that shot is easy bro no problem bro I could totally make that shot bro in my sleep bro this is nothing bro I can hit a dime at 100 yards with a derringer with my eyes closed bro it's fucking simple bro
I guarantee all the retards ITT saying this is an easy shot claim they have a "sub moa AR" as well.
>>64645383I just go with the old>3 steps = 1 yardeven if it ends up being significantly longer. Better to overdo it and hit than under and find out you fucked up. So
>>64646290Those sights are not in alignment, he'd miss if he took that shot
>>64645295Probably quite a few. The distance isn't super far, but under stress and adrenaline, with a moving target partially obscured by a stairway firing back at me, I don't know if I could pull it off.
>>64647691Gunfights aren't terribly common in Australia, no.
>>64647909How unfortunate, they really should be
>>64645295Very few. Probably less than 10 percent of hasguns on /k/ could make that shot. At 40m you are going to have difficulties distiguishing your sight from the target, especially with police duty sights. Couple that with shooting standing unsupported and the stress of bullets going in both directions and I would say a single digit percentage of hasguns on /k/ could successfully make that shot.
>>64645295Based on my experiences in vr shootyz, anywhere from 1 round to 2 mags. Getting shot at doesn't help.
>>64645295notice how it says "fired AT"so its possible that not even he landed any hits
>>64647668>I'm on me rags, but yew can have a rip at me shitter if you like
>>64648068Good lord...
>>64645309>swinging targetSo, you know EXACTLY where it's going to be and it can only swing side to side? How is that remotely close to a person who can move erratically in any direction, shooting at you, while you're pumped full of adrenaline. You're like that 13 year old skinny kid in school who has never been in a fight, but thinks he can beat everyone's ass because he watched dragonball z.
>>64647854Do you enjoy going full retard?I’m the one that posted>>64646035Which if you can’t be asked to read what I wrote in the corner of the target is 30/30 shots on target with a bog standard 92fs at 50 yards. Group is a little high and right because I was aiming for the heart. Here’s a second pic to back myself up. I know it isn’t your fault that you’re a retard but with enough effort any disability can be overcome. I believe in you Anon. No matter what your mother says about you.
>>64647668https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4bYXGC2W24
>>64645295>>40m with a pistol>Be honest /k/, how many shots would you need?In this scenario:1) 2 armed targets shooting anyone moving2) Both are moving but staying in the same general location3) Have a multi-trunked large tree in-between us and I haven't yet been seen as an active lethal threat4) Notice both targets movement tendencies5) Take out first target with one shot (from Barraza'a angle that would be a head/neck chest shot and doable)6) Do best to not move one inch since the other target is going to be looking in your direction7) Remaining target is not moving and ducking erratically, but notice they are popping up, firing, then ducking8) Guess at the pop-ups9) Take another 2-3 shots to neutralize 2nd target.Answer: 4, unless the second one got me first.
>>64648169>is not moving*is NOW moving
I hit only half at 20 meters :(
>>64645295Local club did a Dicken Drill as the last stage of one of their 'IDPA style' matches a few years back. Course for the stage was push your No Shoot gf out of the way, draw, shoot ten rounds at IDPA standard torso at 40y. Time limit was 20 seconds and par was 8 hits.The result, among a sample of ~16 shooters who showed up to a local club match in New England was a very bimodal distribution. Most of the shooters got 7+ hits and a handful got 0; none in between. My conclusion is that anyone who practices even a few times at 50+ with their pistol can do it easily.
>>64648229>My conclusion is that anyone who practices even a few times at 50+ with their pistol can do it easily.Tell me you don’t shoot without telling me you don’t shoot. It takes a lot more than a little practice to get good. It also requires continuing practice because shooting is not a learn it and then ignore it skill and you can just pick up where you left off. If you aren’t using it you are losing it. You will get rusty without practice and it will take time to get back into your stride. There is a lot of muscle memory you can lose. There is a lot of technique you can forget. Something as small as losing your instinct to correctly place the pad of your finger on the trigger can ruin not just your shot but your whole day if it has been long enough that you just don’t remember. You need to remember to pull your 1911 trigger differently than your 92fs trigger. I could go on and on. But the point is it takes more than a little practice and you need to keep the skill sharp.
>>64648194That’s okay anon. Practice practice practice. Get some snap caps and dry fire. The only person on the range you need to be better than is yourself from the last time you were on the range.
Why is that guy so mad that some people practice with their guns? Here in the US we saw an armed citizen stop a shooter at similar distances with just a compact handgun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood_Park_Mall_shootingYou can also look at this Jewish man shoot steel at 25 and 50 yards on this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DMRQLN2jiM>>64645340>red dots on handguns would be no help at all to me shooting at 50 yardsHere's a video for you too. Just practice with whatever sight you prefer, but don't make silly excuses. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/In8EkFfDc4g>>64645532>There are no competitions at 50 yard you fucking idiot.There are service pistol competitions all over the country where people fire their handgun at 25 yards and 50 yards. Furthermore, if you've ever seen an ISSF competition, there will be people all over the world shooting targets 50 meters away with a .22 LR and some iron sights.>>64645569Thank you, ChatGPT.
>>64647884>I just go with the old>3 steps = 1 yardVerne Troyer has entered the thread
>>64645295I'd be fucked with my CC, LCR in 22 wouldn't even try unless they got closer I'm getting out of there
>>64645331The fat on the front perfectly balances the fat on the back giving him a perfect posture with great stability and a little bit of compensatory jiggle to reduce recoil
>>64648263Just lean on a tree for support dofus.
>>64647864Yeah, and he did it with a stock Glock braced off a table too. Everyone ITT is trying to make this out to be an impossible shot, but with controlled, steady fire especially braced off a surface, it’s pretty doable to get rounds on target.
>>64649122>Yeah, and he did it with a stock Glock braced off a table too. Everyone ITT is trying to make this out to be an impossible shot, but with controlled, steady fire especially braced off a surfaceInterestingly enough braced long range pistol shooting has very practical applications but nobody teaches and trains it. "Cheating".
>>64645466This. Some random dude made a 100+ yard shot with 357 magnum on another guy shooting at a cop years ago. Lots of people shoot pistols long range, especially in the western states. 40yd would be fucking nothing for my carry gun (Five-seveN). I wouldn't even need a higher hold. Plus it most definitely would NOT cover the torso. Primarily because it's set up for a 6oclock hold. I'd just aim at the dudes beltline like always. I regularly shoot this gun at 25yds of 4" headbox targets and it's not really hard at all. Plus it's my bobcat/coyote gun.OP is some urban retard that's never shot ANYTHING running away from him after realizing he's human and not a rabbit in distress nor has he ever attempted to adjust his sights for long range shooting since he's probably got some dumb shit fixed setup on his "premium" glawk.
>>64649122>Everyone ITT is trying to make this out to be an impossible shotBy everyone, do you mean the two guys throwing a temper tantrum while everyone else disagrees with them?
>>64645295>the rest of the piggies hiding in a pile
>>64646731why is that table made of wood
>>64651268Ran out of regular skin. I could've used black skin but it would've thrown off the Feng Sui of the room. Also I don't want people thinking I'm racist
>>64649737>OP is some urban retard that's never shot ANYTHING running away from him after realizing he's human and not a rabbit in distress nor has he ever attempted to adjust his sights for long range shooting since he's probably got some dumb shit fixed setup on his "premium" glawk.This
>>64645295I've seen all of the videos. The terrorists were going from wall to wall on the bridge, basically pop up targets. Predictable locations, unpredictable timing. Supported on a tree like that guy in the pic, I most likely one shot them with my carry gun. I shoot pop up targets out to 50 yards without support and do LARP run and gun faggotry. Adding support makes it almost trivial even with adrenaline flowing.
>>64648728>Furthermore, if you've ever seen an ISSF competition, there will be people all over the world shooting targets 50 meters away with a .22 LR and some iron sights.This>>64648728>>red dots on handguns would be no help at all to me shooting at 50 yards>Here's a video for you too. Just practice with whatever sight you prefer,Anon I just grew up plinking with airpistol gats at corks and then spent a while going club air pistol and 22/32. The I got really into cap and balls and flintlocks and percussion duelling pistols. I used like to fire a chamber out of a 1851 every few days to zen out in my back field range at 50M and it was rare when I did not ring steel and and I'm a VERY average pistol shot, the only defensive handgun I have ever had is a pair of old model 29s with five inch barrels (cut backs) that were gifted to me to carry by a colleague and I don't even carry them anymore. I've NEVER been a very good pistol shot (I'm competitive sheet and fclass) but you don't have to be to put an aimed shot on a torso at 50M. I don't need red dots on a handgun (or a shotgun) and I have little use for them on rifles either, I prefer a decent 10x scope on pass through scope mounts that leave irons useable on practical rifles and on long range rifles I use a custom shop 40x.The worst thing about OP is not that he knows nothing about shooting with handguns and never even done competitive 22 pistol, it's that he's a pig headed fool who thinks everyone MUST be as shit stained as he is.
>>64651420>(I'm competitive skeet and fclass)
>>64645327lobbing a mag at a static torso sized target at your leisure is not the same as doing it under pressure with zero way to call or check hits or misses.
>>64651441Actually it is, it's an aimed shot either way not point shooting.
>>64646731Aye but you can shoot a bit OP can't. He's what happens when you are full tactilarp retard and know no better
>>64651469No it’s literally not. It’s no different then claiming shooting a comp is no different then plinking at the range, it’s just not true
>>64648106>Brown feet
>>64651420>The worst thing about OP is not that he knows nothing about shooting with handguns and never even done competitive 22 pistol, it's that he's a pig headed fool who thinks everyone MUST be as shit stained as he is.Of course, I struggle a bit at those ranges with a handgun only because of my astigmatism (It messes with my depth perception), but plenty of people who don't have my condition can do a 40-yard shot with a pistol easily. Hell, the Army, USMC, and Navy (I'm not sure about the Air Force) won't let you become a tier one operator unless you can do a shot like that.>>64651505LOL yep.
>>64651904>piss poor color visionSo sorry I didn’t set up a ring light and a diffuser box to take a quick pic for the internet. Instead I just snapped the shot in a relatively dim room. Do you have anything constructive to say about the gun or target? If not then shut the fuck up you inbred retard.
>>64652068You tend to pull diagonally up-right. Brownfoot.
>>64652572Missed the part where I specifically said I was aiming for a heart shot?Post skin gun and groups.
>>64652068>>64652638Anon, you posted a gun; he hasn't. You won; you can rest now.
hitting the guy at 40 yards isn't the problem, it's that pic related is your berm.
>>64645370I shoot necks off beer bottles with a pistol at maybe 25 yards but my eyesight is gone, unfortunately jews do not catch as many bullets as a miller.
>>64645491>file nameFucking hell>>64647668You have clearly never enjoyed the company of an Asian chick with an Australian accent and it shows
>>64645491I bet she cries everytime they have to do their firearms certification
I think its all made up bullshit like the dead guy in Maryland that "shot up" Brown.The shooting might've been legit but they're just making shit up at this point.Your telling me the modern Anglosphere-Bolshevist tyranny these fucking faggots aren't lying like USSR inner party members at this point?Yeah a 40 yard shot with a pistol is possible, but the COLOMBIAN cheif of police in 80% white Rhode Island has me asking some SERIOUS QUESTIONS about what's actually happening in (formerly) white nations...
Retards ITT saying a 40m pistol shot is easy are the same king of people who days they shoot their .22 at 500m on boomer forum.
On top of all if this.They banned firearmsWhat hobbies shooters do they have when the fucking hobby is banned?You have another leftist slime killing a Republican white woman and they conveniently find the guy killed himself.After successfully escaping a man hunt after a mass shooting in a university that supposedly has hundreds of cameras...The fact that they hired a FUCKING IMMIGRANT to be chef of police in Rhode Island...England has arrested thousands of people over Facebook posts and you expect me to believe for a fucking second the neo-USSR is a bunch of lying bolshevik peices of shit?40 yard shot is doable but very difficult.So haw did this man practice in a country that has banned the very thing you need to practice with?Its all fucking bullshit and I dont believe it for a FUCKING SECOND.Australia took their hatred out of firearms and fucking X posters cracking down on "racism" over foreigners shooting foreigners in AUSTRALIA.Every single thing is fucking lies at this point.
>>64653155I think this guy was a senior detective. they have mandatory training.
>>64645295>Bondi-based detectiveGoddamn right.
>>64653155>My hobby is more important Get fucked. Holy shit you entitled snowflake. Didn't read the rest of your rant.
>>64653249Yes you need to shoot a pistol to be good at shooting a pistol.
>>64653264I'm an australian citizen and I own several pistols, so I'm very confused right now.
>>64645295I carry a bodyguard 2.0. I'll be honest if I mag dumped I'd give it a 2/3 chance I hit him. But during that time he'd also be firing back at me with an actual rifle so odds are I'd get hit before hitting him. I'd put my odds at 1 out of 5 of outshooting the gunman who has a bolt action at that distance.
>>64645295with bracing (like he did with the tree) i'm fairly confident i could nail that in the first few
>>64645295I keep seeing people blame this on religion, but as a reminder, there are many almost 2 million aussies of the Islamic faith. The overwhelmingly majority do not commit crimes.The bigger picture here is white, western Zionist influence, who has pushed many people to the edge. If you guys want less Muslim attacks in your country, just stop supporting Israel. We could literally all live in peace. Until then, enjoy a sporadic attack which matches 0.01% the death toll that Israel inflicts on Palestine daily. Peace.
>>64653264you don't "need" to shoot a pistol at all. if it's a hobby, it's a want, which you're conflating with a need because you're entitled.
>>64653776>you guys want less Muslim attacks in your country, just stop supporting IsraelIf you give in on Israel then the jyhadis will demand something else, probably to let them enforce sharia on Muslims. Not that supporting Israeli terrorism/genocide isn't wrong but giving in to Islamic terrorism isn't a solution to anything.
>>64645532This is so fucking embarrassing.
>>64648728I think that OP is just really bad with handguns and he's lashing out at everyone else who has half decent experience who says the shot isn't actually physically impossible.
>>64649122It's just the one guy steaming.When that guy got the spree shooter at the mall back then, everyone was complimentary because the hero was still relatively green (just got his carry license even), and it was legit a non-trivial shot. He did damn good.OP, however, seemingly thinks that a moderately difficult shot like this is inconceivable, and that anyone who claims that they could probably do it, or anyone suggesting they might be able to do it, is an absolute lying larper, and he comes up with all these ridiculous mental gymnastics (you're lying if you say you have a pistol range longer than 25yd, nobody shoots competitively with pistols at 50yds, etc), where he insist only a certified pistolero god could have a chance in hell to pull it off.OP probably is some sort of bitter narcissist with a bruised ego, who's extremely self-conscious of his own skills with a handgun, and refuses to accept that there in fact a fair amount of people who genuinely can make somewhat difficult shots like these.
>>64645378Don’t anyone tell him about Hicock45 or 22plinkster. It’ll make his brain explode.
>>64645378Skill issue.
>>64645309>when target are on a pendulum and don't shoot back it is easy to hit themI cannot wait for civil war 2.
>>64648068Dear god in heaven forgive me.Would.
>>64645532Yeah, cause issf pistol is shot at 50m (55yd), not 50ydBut if you a babby nra bullseye is 50 yd
>>64653043>You have clearly never enjoyed the company of an Asian chick with an Australian accent and it shows>What are you doing slut?>I'm cooking... I'm cooking burgers>What's the date lets put this on 4chan>Hey Ruben, how was the scuba?
>>64651530Popper targets, swingers, stars, are all moving faster than a fat ass at 40 yards and are arguably more difficult to hit. They've been range staples for over 50 years now. Metallic silhouette shooters shoot extreme long range with handguns all the time.You're just completely ignorant of what's available to shooters. Primarily because you're an urban dude who's primary exposure to shooting is at a static range. That's why you think it's soooo different in competition when it's literally the same, if you've got a range set up that way. People shoot this way every weekend. It isn't some special event like it is for you.>Falling for a stocked pistolLMAO shitter guns. No wonder you think people can't shoot handguns you've trained yourself on an impractical toy. Should've spent the money on ammo getting good with a handgun.
>>64645314This is definitely true, only two guys at the sheriff's office when i worked there scored better than me in pistol qualifiers. Iwas the network admin, for fucks sake.
>>64648106>92fsGood choice, berettas are more accurate at long range than anything else I've ever shot. I use a 96fs.
>>64655052You're just completely ignorant of what's available to shooters. Primarily because you're an urban dude who's primary exposure to shooting is at a static range. That's why you think it's soooo different in competition when it's literally the same, if you've got a range set up that way.Urban retards legit have no excuse to not train on movement or targets unless they're too much of a fat useless retard or poor.I used to do competitive shooting with pistols and got hurt in car wreck. I got a meta quest and Ace VR with one of their pistol handsets. I'm getting my practice in while at home and still recovering.
>>64651904Once x enabled where accounts originated and where they're based out of. I've learned it's the jeets or other turd worlders that are concerned about race and what happens in America more than any American.
>>64645295With a stock Glock 19 Gen4, i can go from concealment to a round on target at 55 yards in under two seconds. Fairly repeatably (i say “fairly” because sometimes i miss) How am i doin?
>>64653776>violent cultists who hate western civilization and democracy want you to stop supporting jews.lol
>>64655160I just do it for kicks because people get really defensive for no reason. Keeping up less with Americans is healthy, I'll give you that. Every nation on earth has enough of their own stressfully retarded stuff going on.
>>64645295I wouldnt take the shotI let him finish
>>64655052I think stocked pistols have a certain appeal (for instance for a backpack gun, assuming the stock is also the holster), but it wouldn't be particularly practical for carry.
>>64645301It says "fired at" not "360 no scoped". Yeah I can fire at a person from 40m.
>>64655020I thought it was "you up for the scuba?"
>>64655160Partially very true, but they do that because they know that racial tensions have undeniably grown in the west, and that stirring up shit and catering to partisans in divisive (enough) hotbutton issues is an easy way towards payout.Since they get caught doing this, they are trying to wield it defensively.The combination of:>1. Too many normalfags (especially minors).>2. Indians getting wider internet access.>3. Social media paying for engagement.>4. Controversy and trolling giving most engagement.>5. AI... has really made the internet SIGNIFICANTLY worse than it already was in the past few years, and it stokes a lot of needless flames in society as a whole.There's so much incentive and so many tools to aggressively drive discourse towards the bottom at every turn, no matter what, and it makes the web less fun.
>>64645432Or maybe you're just shit
>>64655052No one is competing and shooting swingers at 40 yards you are a fat retard who spends too much time in VR and you think it makes you a good shooting. Typical online over confidence. I shoot a ton of comps from basic USPSA to comps like ridge racer. 40 yards shot on an active target shooting at you isn’t a simple shot.
>>64648169At the outdoor range where I work for free and get free range time in return (and by work I spend maybe 2 hours a week cleaning things up) they have LEO certifications on a regular basis. I'm willing to bet that MAYBE 10% of the officers can shoot good enough, and have enough moxy, to make this scenario plausible. Conversely, I'd say that most of the regulars could make the shots, but only a few would have what it takes to stand there when someones shooting back.And if you watch the videos most of the officers clearly did not have any balls at all and spent most of the time hiding. If I would have had the same cover I know for a fact I could have taken out one for sure and quite likely more if I timed it so the ones who were still alive didn't know where the shot came from; just like shooting the rear turkey first.
>>64645331the fat stomach helps stabilize by acting as a counter balance as he moves.
>>64652638bros out here shaving the dogs
>>64645297That shot? Child's play bro. Straight-up amateur hour bro. I could thread a needle with a .50 cal from a moving helicopter in a hurricane bro, no scope, left-handed, while eating a burrito bro.Dime at 100 yards with a derringer blindfolded? Pfft, that's warm-up bro. I do that Eyes closed, backwards, one hand tied behind my back bro.It's not even a challenge bro\
