Narco sub looking torpedo with a huge range and a $200k price tag. Russians hang nets, the submarine swims under them, deleting a $500mm submarine.
>>64646703With normal existing defensive countermeasures
>>64646703>How do you defend against this?An expedient option for port defense is building a cuck shed for the remnants of your navy at the port of novorossyisk, cumrade!Also : I think the thumbnail you posted isn't a seababy, it's a MARICHKA>tfw marichkas 118 inch torpedo
>>64646720>With normal existing defensive countermeasuresCome on that's lazy.Spell it out for the dunces in class (me)!
>>64646703By not invading competent neighbors, for one thing>>64646726So the sub is being scrapped, got it
>>64646726nice cope, but no
>>64646703armed seals and/or giant squids
>>64646743>So the sub is being scrapped, got it>>64646746>nice cope, but noI mean, to be fair it did hit too far right (as viewed in the direction of terminal approach)Though I think even if it didn't hit the sub in the center mass it will have damaged shit behindBut the fact that the sub is apparently still above water and the general silhouette is not a good sign for the prospects of that sub being sufficiently damagedBut as long as they did at least 10M$ damage it was worth it I thinkWhat would your notion be for such a 200k$ drone torpedo and the effort/opportunity cost of organizing it all?I think the fact they closed off the port is good in that it creates a lot of work and operational hindrance for the ziggers here but the question is if these boats were going anywhere in the first place.
>>64646764they pulled out the other two subs immediately but this one suspiciously stays there like the "this is fine" dog when the flames were consuming himshits fucked, it's only a matter of time we get confirmation on how bad things really are
>>64646764>But the fact that the sub is apparently still above water>what are bulkheads and pumps?It wasn't hit too far right anon. You want to hit the propulsion. Its the most sensitive part. A simple hole in the hull can be patched.
>Torpedos in 2025Torpedos are slow.
>>64646703>Russians hang nets, the submarine swims under them,Dams are next, head it here first. One dam strike and the Russian peasents will howl.
>>64646777Maybe it is a potemkin move, that could beAlso checked>>64646817Okay I heard it's pretty difficult to weld hulls but I guess the propulsion and especially the prop is also uniquely difficulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di6fu7F2BxQAlso in either case: lmao at the zigger that I saw going "haha just some propeller damage"
>>64646764I'm willing to bet that sub is fucked. It might be perfectly okay floating on the surface, but keeping the hull intact deep under water requires it to be close to perfect. At the very very least, it needs to be extensively inspected using xray or ultrasound techniques to make sure some stressed weld isn't ready to pop the moment the hull starts to compress under pressure. Submarines compress and decompress a lot.
>>64646826>Torpedos are slow.The mighty russian ass clenches slower, apparently
>>64646703like picrel
>>64646876Fair enough, I should have been optimistic enough to assume as much, even if the water dampens and absorbs a lot of the energyThen I shall hope for an oceangate incidentThese assholes specifically killed so many completely innocent and peaceful people in Mariupol alone
weaponized aqua cat girls
>>64646746>>64646743Why was that post deleted? It talked about a submarine - a weapon - if it was off-topic the rest of the thread istoo.,
>>64646890>cuck your entire fleet
>>64646890Can these barges be removed in a timely manner? If not, than wouldn't this make them easy targets if missiles were to get through air defenses?
>>64647019A moored ship isn't going to dodging AShMs anyway, but it's very much an admission that the ships are worthless
>>64646720You can't put mobiks on the hull of a submarine
>>64647000It was just a dude going on about "xaxa is nothing of damage"To be fair I was being stupid and went along with it, since it is true that the explosion hit the pier but it will still have damaged this submarine in many ways not necessarily directly visible >>64646876 but still operationally prohibitive unless you want to oceangate the crewI used to be neutrool, apprehensive or even very opposed to deleting shit but it's the only way to deal with things as the forum spamming becomes worse and worseDisingenuous posters just need to be banned, I got hit a few times myself but it just wont work otherwise
>>64646703nets go all the way to the bottom, if you actually install them they will work
>>64646722>they turned their own naval base into a cuck shedlol, lmao even
>>64646890Fucking lol
>>64647066port status: p-u-c-k-e-r-e-d
>>64646722>hohols wont sink our fleet if it cant move
>>64647077>ass-umed the position
>>64646890>>64646703>>64646722If only there was a way to protect these ships while also providing critical water resources to the region and helping the civil economy...
>>64646890>>64646722aren't they just using the missiles as cruise missile slingers where they're at? like the world's most expensive static missile launching platform basically
>>64647100It can still move vertically.
>>64646747Dolphins work too, since they have that sonic attack.
>>64647236It's so much easier to refloat a sunken wreck if it's already in port though.
>>64647077He mixed up his chechen and drone defense drills.
>>64646722Pool's closed I guess. (And by pool I mena the Black Sea LMAO.) Imagine losing this hard agaisnt an opponent with no navy.
>>64646876As an addendum: Even if it weren't 100% FUBAR? The only repair dock able to theoretically fix it Russia has in the Black Sea is in Sevastopol. And yes, it's exactly the drydock the other sub was in when the ukies blew it up.
>>64647019>Can these barges be removed in a timely manner?Not by russia. A normal country could do it in a few days
>>64647232Not sure that's even possible. Kilos have no vertical launch cells, they need to fire the missiles out of the torpedo tubes, which requires a certain minimum depth that may be deeper than the harbour floor..
>>64646703With drones of your own
>>64646722what happens when they put stronger engines in them and free willy the cuck shed?
>>64647337Solid logic.
>>64647628Pidor Pidorovich standing over the cuck shed attempting to block the Marichka with his body but it flies over him too, iconic of the 1990's movie on VHS
>>64646703>deleting a $500mm submarine.not yet
>>64647705my brown friend, the sub is fucked, not only because of how explosions work underwater, but also because you can see the sub being more submerged
>>64646720Submarine aren't as expandable are your cannon fodder tho
>>64647046Not with that attitude comrade
>>64647705>not nyet
>>64646703
>>64647797everything is fine, submarine is supposed to be submerged comrade)))
>>64646722>sebaby with the free willy upgrade jumps the sub nets and sinks a ship worth 10 billion rubles for the cost on a pair of shoes
>>64646876>keeping the hull intact deep under water requires it to be close to perfectCounterpoint, it's in the Black Sea which has the entire northern end of it as 50m depth max.It doesn't have to go that deep.This is a distinction without a difference because they don't have a dry dock they could fix it at anyway. It's not going to move under its own power again.
>>64647000>Why was that post deleted? It talked about a submarine - a weaponI didn't see the post but if it was zigger babble then chances are it was deleted when the user was b& and all their posts deleted for something they did in another thread or another post of theirs in this thread.
>>64647705If it was OK you'd see milblogers gloating all around that pier, revealing new targets and vulnerabilities. It's proper fucked and now we just need to wait for someone to snap a pic of gaping hole.
>>64654761>If it was OK you'd see milblogers gloating all around that pier, revealing new targets and vulnerabilitiesHang on, let me look for the carefully framed vid of them doing just that.Here we are.Not milbloggers, some spox instead but same thing.
>>64647046What about VDV though?
The most important important question is how did it navigate?? Afaik you get shit for signals under water
>>64655929>The most important important question is how did it navigate?I think it had to be a wire unspooling behind it, I thought the other end would be a marichka but looking at the map, I don't think it's necessary.You can literally be sitting at a beach club sipping a vodka martini with a cable runninginto the water and you only need 4km of wire/cable/fibre to reach that dock.The other possibility is that it wasn't a drone at all, it was a frogman driving a diver scooter (SDV) carrying a non-functioning drone with warhead maybe deliberately doing it slightly badly so that Russians don't suspect frogmen and the next run works too.I do wonder why the drone hit the corner of the dock and not the sub directly.
>>64646722But now they can't move the other ships and now they're at risk for long range drones
>>64655929>Afaik you get shit for signals under waterThere's such a thing as ELRF which is extremely low frequency radio that uses the Earth itself as an antenna. It's used to talk to subs though US officially shit theirs down a while back.India, China and some other countries still use it.It can only send a couple of characters per minute though so pretty much all you do is say "hey, call for you" and the sub comes up and communicates normally.It uses a huge amount of juice to transmit and you need...not antennas exactly except they're exactly like antennas and they channel the signal into the earth or something. They have to be really, really long.The US ones were like 30km long antennas or something.The Chinese one is said to be an array of antennas in a grid that's roughly NYC sized. Officially, nobody knows where it is. It's a civilian facility "for studying earthquakes" but even the staff who use it don't know there the antenna array actually is.So a wire spool makes the most sense, assuming it was a drone and not a timed/command charge planted last week or a diver or something else entirely.It's worth noting that Sea Baby drones can carry Manta mines.
>>64646703>deleting a $500mm submarinethe only thing it deleted is itself and a small crater in the port though. try not missing next time
>>64646890I guess they got their new warm water port after all.
>>64656336Lmao, yeah a depth charge that size & at that distance from the propulsion would surely do nothing to the sub. Cope your way to the end of a rope.
>>64656084US still uses Jim Creek in Washington state.1.2 megawatts of radiated power.>the whole fucking valley is the antenna
