IMO the plates right now have reached their maximum usability and something needs to be invented/manufactured to replace them.One article suggests bone-like armor with lots of micro/nano gaps but with modern materials and will we see personal use electronic warfare gadgets to counter drones?
I disagree, 10x12 Sapi cut is a quagmire that has held things back. The bong osprey vest might have been a shit design, but they were wise to experiment with different asymmetrical armor footprints; and there in lies the future.
>>64653880Weight/protection/coveragePick twoThat's the fundamental problem with armor. We can decrease the weight with advances in material science, but I doubt the advances will be significant enough to change the way we do body armor. So for the foreseeable future we'll be getting marginally lighter plates, maybe even soft armor that can hold up to some intermediate rounds, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything truly game changing
>>64653880>will we see personal use electronic warfare gadgets to counter dronesThis is what we must see. I won't be surprised if every single soldier is equipped with those old German frequency splashers. Handheld and so powerful they were illegalized and put on national ban lists for ownership because anyone could not out a power plant with them.
>>64653880Just make batteries, ammo and other useful stuff you need to carry into armor-like properties, so you cut down the total weight you are carrying. A nice standardized system of attachment points would make this much more practical.
>>64653880I've read articles saying composite metal foam might be the future of armor, but it's hard to say how much of that is real and how much is marketing hype.
>>64654110You forgot cost.We might be able to make some graphene, nanotubes or spider silk in the lab that doesn't mean we can make enough of it to equip every soldier with it.
>>64654110This is correct. The two big goals we'll likely see met by 2030 are a drop-protected, no cheat ring 4.5lb Level IV plate and high end, relatively heavy @ 1.2lb/ft2 or less, soft armor able to defeat 7.62x39 mild steel core. The latter has been an industry stretch goal for over twenty years. Rumor has it either Second Chance or Safariland got very close with a Zylon panel in the early 00s, but the Zylon scandal ruined all chances of that.Modern UHMWPE has only just caught up to where Zylon and Z-SHIELD were in 2002.We will also likely see an M855A1 + BZ API + M80 plate at 3.3lb or less at that time, along with maybe a civilian-accessible .50 BMG plate.
>>64653880why the fuck didn't the retards in dune just wear plate armor along with a personal forcefield?>bullets can't get you>someone has to somehow slowly push a blade through one of the small gaps in your armor.it's already hard enough to do without a forcefield
>>64653966More coverage the better.
>>64653880>JammerWon't take long for drones to have home on jam.
>>64655136because combat and fight scenes play second fiddle to philosophy in the dune books. most of the books are just paul saying something cryptic and the other person going "huhhh?????"
>>64655136>why the fuck didn't the retards in dune just wear plate armor along with a personal forcefield?they did, you dunce
>>64654214I’m waiting to see if advances in structural batteries make their way to things like body armor
>>64655136moron, they did. Military would wear full armour as well as their personal shields. Sometimes people would forego armour and just trust the shield and the mobility of not wearing any extra armour but they absolutely did wear armour
>>64653880>will we see personal use electronic warfare gadgets to counter drones?Already there. Walkie-talkie form factor drone detectors and backpack-portable wide-spectrum jammers have been in use on the frontlines for years now. Latest meta is having a scanning receiver connected to a set of FPV goggles to "stream snipe" incoming drones.>>64655304It would, actually. Building a radiation-seeking guidance system to fit into an FPV package (as opposed to 500-kg ATGM) is quite challenging. But we'll get there eventually.
>>64655136Can't Crysknives punch through most materials which is why they were used in spite of the length disadvantage? Besides, I remember most of the heavier troops wearing power armor, but that might had just been the video game.
>>64655596Home on Jam would be neat, but I'd be more worried about every drone eventually getting autonomous terminal guidance which would make jamming a rather poor defensive solution.Jamming would still remain useful for disrupting coordinated drone swarms, but I wouldn't expect it to remain useful as the primary means of defense once we are out of the "built in a shed" phase of small development.
>>64655136Because1) Frank Herbert is a politico faggot so despite the future plate armor making the setting even more feudalistic it undermines his desired theme of barbarians from the Caucasus overrunning a decadent empire.2) Herbert is a somewhat libtarded nerd and not fundamentally interested in war, tactics, and slaughter.3) Herbert isn't that smart.Others have done far more interesting things with basic assumptions laid out by his glossary.
>>64659174It should also be noted that pushing implements like polearms which could disrupt formations of shielded men would make sense.You could also carry small machine pistols which you would press through the shield and only discharge when they have safely by passed it, assuming it is a loose shield away from the body which allows breathing. The counter is to have a tight shield which doesn't allow the transfer of gases. All these things create a variety of infantry doctrine, panoply, and armament which would make Dune actually interesting. Rather than a stupid political treatise about space drugs.
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>>64659174That hot garbage is the "more interesting things"?
>>64659284More interesting than a shitty novel I find totally uninteresting, yes. It's still just an artfag's concept sketch. I once came up with an RPG system for shield fighting, but the planned group split up for work reasons and I abandoned it. The concept of shield fighting is more interesting that the novel.
