>Ukraine lost 87% of its Abrams tanks in under two years. Australia's 49 replacement tanks arrive as the 68-ton breakthrough weapon has been forced into a different role>It is now used not as a spearpoint but a "shielded hammer" — only surviving in a symphony of sensors, jammers, and screens.Tanks are now truly obsolete:https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/12/19/australia-completes-delivery-of-49-abrams-tanks-now-they-must-survive-the-drones/
>>64657570>Tanks are now truly obsoleteAnd yet, China, Russia, USA, Germany, France, UK, Ukraine and more countries are getting more tanks.
>>64657583The US marines aren't.
>>64657592The Marines are attempting to shift away from they GWOT role of Army 2: Seaborne Boogaloo to a more serious amphibious force. Their divestment of tanks makes sense if you consider that they expect to fight in the pacific. But you're a dronefag and incapable of thinking outside of the terms of the Ukraine war.
>>64657570>cold war tech has no built-in countermeasures against 2010s tech>it means it's obsolete
Imagine giving away 49 functional tanks.
>>64657656In exchange for TZD? That's a good deal.
>>64657668I feel like you're pro-russian and pretending you aren't.
>>64657656Australia was getting rid of the things either way. Might as well send them off to have one last hurrah rather than burying them in concrete or whatever the hell they would do with the things otherwise.
>>64657668Seek help
>>64657668>we should67IQ zoomer take
>>64657570>Ukrainian tank crews + bundy op rumThey'll end up in prison or moscow with no recollection of how it happened
>>64657668Is this a deliberate muh both sides IQ 90 neutrooler larp? Because it's really good.
>>64657655they cant even handle the terrain very well, soviet tech suffers a lot less wear just from exposure to undergrowth and trees
>>64657840It cares not for your northern european gay shrubberyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fReXK_ntOYg
>>64657685I don't understand the australian approach to that. we have some of the best conditions in the world for long-term outdoor storage 'just in case' but we insist on permanently destroying them instead.
>>64657656>giving away 49 functional tanks because you're european and russia is a threat your peaceUnderstandable>giving away 49 functional tanks to a random conflict on the other side of the world just to shitpostBased
>>64657655The tank prototypes that Germany and France are making have no real countermeasures for drones The usa is not even making a serious effort to replace the abrams and the active protective systems are mysteriously always 5 years away Lets be real, /k/ hates drones and likes tanks so they cope
>>64657989/k/ is not a singular person, get fucking real nigger
>Ukraine lost 87% of its Abrams tanks in under two years. That's like... 14 Abrams?
>>64657668It's a cheaper way to cripple Russia than fighting them directly.
>>64657957Well, Australia is more European than Russia is.
>arrive as Ukraine faces a sobering reality: 27 of the original 31 American-supplied Abrams are already gone.>Ukraine lost 87% of its Abrams fleet in less than two years. Grim
>>64658072>Australia more than regenerates all of Ukraine's Abrams losses across two years of fightingSo this is the power of Aussies...
>>64658074>one unit lost a duel with a Russian tank,Even grimmer
>>64658074It's pretty obvious drones chew up everything until there's nothing left. However the problem is also that they were delivered when both sides were in the process of adapting to this new style of warfare. Maybe the new ones will fare better, maybe not.
>>64658074>shit gets destroyed in high intensity land warShocker!
>>64657957You can visit old naval fortifications in WA that were built to deter the russiansThey aren't at the top of our list, but they have always been on it
Lose lips lads
>>64658010>>6465807427 tanks lost in two years actually sounds like nothinghow many tanks did russia lose in those two years?
>>64657897its to justify increasing defense spending to replace the depleted stockpiles.
>>64658175saar
>>64658310That question is illegal, sir
>>64658074>probably wiped out like 2700 russkie shitboxes in the process
>>64658074It’s not surprising, it’s a peer war after all.
>>64657570>tanks are obsolete>both sides want as many tanks as they can get>Ukraine is ordering tanks from NATO members while Russia is ramping up refitsYes anon, both countries have no idea how the war they are fighting is playing out and only you understand tanks are obsolete.
>>64657570>Australia gives ukraine 49 Abrams tanks. Now they must survive the drones.>ukraine lost 87% of its Abrams tanks in under two years. Australia's 49 replacement tanks arrive as the 68-ton breakthrough weapon has been forced into a different role>It is now used not as a spearpoint but a "shielded hammer" — only surviving in a symphony of sensors, jammers, and screens.>Tanks are now truly obsolete
>>64657989Drones pose a very real threat to MBTs and will be countered by hard kill systems just like when SPAA was integrated into armoured units in WW2 to counter ground attack planes.Now because most of the world is at peace it'll be a slow process and we might need to wait 10 or 20 years for the new integrated SPAA to be fielded but they will be and MBTs will live on as the point of the spear.
>>64657570>shielded hammer.I would have suspected they simply were fire-brigade defense attachments to static infantry.>>64658477Nah, I think its now small units of mechanized infantry, deciding that a drone/artillery screen of in-depth lethality has sufficiently "attrited" a sliver of area that they can take 100 meters here, there throughout the season, which scaled up across thousands of IFV's, delivers a tangible territorial gain.
>>64658429It's missing the overfed Bakhmut dog.
>>64657570Then why are both sides ordering more?
>>64658433It’s not surprising, it’s a peer war after all
>>64658433>not pictured: the russian t-14s that still can't even make it to the battlefield
Losing 27 tanks isn't that bad actually but it does mean they need more. Tank losses were higher in WW2 in the same amount of 2 years.
>>64658689>regional war vs world war with multiple global front
>>64658074>>arrive as Ukraine faces a sobering reality: 27 of the original 31 American-supplied Abrams are already gone.>>Ukraine lost 87% of its Abrams fleet in less than two years.>Grim27 tanks in a massive attritional war where both sides have 500,000+ casualties each is fucking nothing
>>64658809Noooo you don't get it hohols lost 0.3% of all abrahams ever made it is literally over nafo disarmed zelensky lost peace treaty when
The drunken shitposter nation has stepped up more than I expected in this war. Granted, I didn't expect anything, and they're basically giving away things that they would otherwise throw away, but I'm still pleasantly surprised.
>>64658836>Ukrainian blood and soil azov warrior vs proud Donbassian freedom fighter reclaiming his Russian heritage
