Ukraine reportedly hit 2 Su-27s in Crimea overnight. Why has Russian AD performed so poorly, specifically in Crimea?
so that's what this is about. but i would need the sauce in order to corroborate your claims.
why do so many posters on here have a fetish for pretending that all different sorts of military hardware are somehow indestructible when no plane or tank in history has ever been shown to be impossible to destroy?
>>64657872Already geolocated. >>64657934It's kinda bad when enemy low-cost drones can routinely hit radars, AA pieces, planes and ships in a place you explicitly conquered to serve as a navy and air force base.
>>64657867Crimea in particular is horribly exposed, but the russians have no choice but to keep shovelling high end air defences into the grinder if they want to prevent the ukies gaining air superiority over the southern land bridge
>>64657993>crimea is just Snake Island on a much grander scaleGrim. Wonderful, but grim.
>>64657869>i would need the saucehttps://t.me/SBUkr/16448
>>64657993That's not exactly a sustainable cost-effectiveness ratio foreverI mean, some of that shit getting shreked is in the tens of millions of dollars and on their budget they can't be living that superpower dreamland lifestyle. Sooner or later someone has to pay
>specifically in CrimeaI'm just pulling this out of my ass, but given the geography of its location potential attack vectors for UA drones/munitions can essentially come from almost any angle (north from UA itself, west and south from the Black Sea, east over the Sea of Azov and the landbridge if they're ballsy) with very little raid warning.
>>64658023They used to have A-50's covering that area, the big flying radar trumps any kind of ground based system for both range and often fidelity when it comes to detecting anything. Also in networked AA systems, its the hub. Everything goes through them on the kill chain, from detection to launching countermeasures.Well they're dead now. So its down to just some dumb fuck operators trying to figure out if what they're shooting at is an us or them
>>64657934It's just sad when cheap ass niggerdrones take out beautiful pieces of engineering excellence, especially in the form of military equipment. I know it's illogical in the context of war, but it still feels like a race to the bottom. It takes so much effort to build something special and so little effort to destroy it. It's a metaphor for Western civilization and thirdies.
>>64657867these are not decoys right?
>>64658040It's justice for her
>>64658044You have people next to both airframes so they are not.
>>64658049An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
The thing is it's only going to get worse for the Russians; they had 24/7 AWACS coverage with A-50s until they lost one, and then they lost a couple more, and now they have like maybe 3 or 4 left at most, total along a front a couple thousand km long, so no more total radar coverage, and the Ukies know when the Russians aren't radiating and get in a few cheap shots which further degrade their air force and every airframe Russia has is irreplaceable lostech with all the sanctions and blown up factories. The Russian air force is a bear trying to wear down a millstone with its teeth.
>>64657867Fucking globohomo fags can't even give these wonderful machines the dignity of being destroyed in the air. They just slit their throats while they sleep.Never forget what they took from you.
>>64658055YEBAT moment
>>64658069nah fuck su27's they are ugly janky looking droopy shit and they cant fight for shit either
>>64658069That's Russian skill issue of being unable to utilize air power while they do a meat-grinder at snails pace. I'm surprised they actually managed to put the FAB thing into action without catastrophic losses.
>>64657867https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2025/12/19/moscows-narrative-wobbles-as-ukraine-takes-back-kupiansknot the worst issue lmao
>>64658086>su27They are kinda good in Warno though.
>>64658049>>64658062In my dreams, she still flies. I see her! I see her! She's so real.
>>64658099Vast majority of Soviet shit in Warno/Wargame/Broken Arrow/Regiments are good though. Because it has to be for video game 'balance'.
>>64658095>“It wasn’t us who started the war in 2022; it was the destructive forces in Ukraine, with the support of the West – essentially, the West itself that unleashed this war,” Putin said.Uh-oh.... He said war.....>"the goals of the special military operation will certainly be achieved[...]Russia will achieve the liberation of its historical lands by military means"Oh. Did he remember he was meant to call it the SMO?
>>64658086>>64658087
>>64658087> I'm surprised they actually managed to put the FAB thing into action without catastrophic losses.Apart from bombing Belgorad multiple times when the glider kits fail to function. You'd think a military wouldn't release them over their own populous city though.
>>64658086>>64658087Also, the image I posted was the Jizralies taking out the last of air worthy F-14s.
>>64658118Rules for thee, not for me. Most of the dumber/more arbitrary Russian laws aren't rigidly enforced like Oceania, they're just there as a thing that may or may not trip you up at some point for the Kremlin to then use as pretext to arrest you purely at their own convenience (say, removing an official or arresting some poors for meatwaves).
>>64658125I'm not actually sad about that. The dirty shitskin hands have been fouling our girl for too long.
>>64658016>Why worry about something that hasn't happened?
Crimea is way to close to the frontline, what is air defense going to do if you attack it flying low with a shoe box sized drone at night?
