Recent footage of a Papua New Guinean inter-tribal "shootout" with bows, though the bearded fella in the foreground seems to be using a slingshot.https://x.com/clashreport/status/2002320520436412508
Yep, thats how tribal warfare looks like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4uirwxx1Y
Looks like they're trying to goad the enemy into wasting their arrows, so they can then make their own count much better or just have the enemy run away since the fight at that point would be rather one-sided.
Imagine if one gave them a Vickers Gun and sandbags.
>>64659064Ban assault slingshots! Common sense bow control now!
>>64659107What it looks is fucking retarded. No aiming no placement no control no tactics no skill. One wonders if there was any real motive or conviction at all. There certainly isn't any plan or training.You really can't and shouldn't judge people like this by your own ideals and knowledge. It simply does not apply.
>>64659064I just hope they're all having fun. May we all be so lucky to get into an inter-tribal conflict with the bois.
>>64659064I absence of guns, bows will have to do. The technological disconnect between wooden bow and arrows and the smartphone with which they're recording and uploading however is absolutely insane. The clothing too: it implies a very high level of technology, yet here we are having people fighting with bows and arrows.>>64659138At a certain point I wonder if they were actually trying to kill, or just have a somewhat harmless show of bravery for the ingroup and a show of force to the outgroup, from both sides, in the same way hooligans clash you know.
>>64659138There’s a reason why peoples outside of Eurasia have historically been regarded as crap soldiers and fighters since time immemorial and dominated by the former in most encounters.
>>64659064>they took this from youfinally, honorable warfare again
>>64659184>I wonder if they were actually trying to killThird world theatrics. Note how they take turns advancing to the front to shoot before withdrawing again ("posing and hosing") and no effort is made to advance, flank, utilize a vehicle, or in any way make any serious effort to actually win the fight. It was posturing with a bit of added danger, not much different than two groups of kids throwing rocks and bottles at each other.>bet you dollars to kina that if someone had taken a serious hit, both sides would have scattered
>>64659064>street warfare circa 10,000 BCFucking wild yo. I hope someone translates Frank Miller's 300 and gives away free copies to them so we can finally get 4K footage of Greek phalanxes in action.
>>64659064soul
>>64659064Damn that looks fun as fuck! Civilization takes so much from us.
>>64659185>EurasiaRussia doesn't count.
>>64659064Older footage taken in November of some bowmen shooting arrows before a guy with a club or axe leads a charge down the street.https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1989298063500857655
>>64659229>>64659138You're thinking like Westerners. The point is not to cause too much damage (death/injuries) as that will just cause the conflict to continue at a later date.It's a delicate (in some way) tug of war in order to restore "balance" between both sides, via expressions of valor, intimidation, injuries, or even deaths - yes - but inflict too much (or too little) and you just risk prolonging the conflict.
>>64659064Are those longbows?
>>64659229It's basically drunk fighting logic. They are showing their friends they're brave and fearless, while trying to show the enemy they are dangerous.If you look at African conflicts, you usually have absurdly high death tolls but mostly civilian casualties, they shoot at one another without aiming until the losing side gets scared and runs away, then the winners do ethnic cleansing, rinse and repeat.>>64659467Yeah the longbow is the easiest bow to make that will still be powerful enough to kill someone.
>>64659064True /k/ shit. you bitches cry if you don't have a red dot on your glock.
>>64659379>>64659064me in far cry 4 10 years ago
>>64659091>playback on other sites disabled by ownerWhy even post that?
>>64659466>You're thinking like Westerners. You can understand it in Western terms too. Imagine two slightly drunk proles circling each other with drawn knives, throwing insults and fidgeting with the blade, but not actually trying to stab one another because neither wants to end up in jail.
>>64659628>True /k/ shitThey don't seem to put much thought to anything, so yeah.
>>64659064>recentthis isn't recent, I remember seeing this exact video almost a year ago
>>64659466>no, we can't win and end the fight because then the fight won't be overAbsolutely, utterly fucking stupid, but I appreciate your intimate knowledge and explanation of the retardation of thirdie logic.
>>64659064Don't get hit either!They use a length of thin bamboo about a metre long or a bit over 3ft long and there's about another foot long hardwood arrowhead mounted in it. Some of them can be really elaborate, barbed nightmares which are going to do a lot of damage going in and probably not coming out real easy. Others are sort of long, oval-shaped blades which even though they're not complicated, on bare skin they're going to make a fairly deep, wide wound cavity.Sort of got to factor in with some of the highland warfare that goes on, its a long way from anywhere, medical treatment is practically an old bloke with a stick through his nose that 'might' have the spirits on his side to stop you from dying and you'll owe him a pig for the services or he'll curse you. So yeah, a dirty, sharp, long and pointy bit of wood hanging out of you might not kill you outright, but its going to potentially kill you later on and that's just fine.
>>646590647000 years ain't nothin changed
>>64660989I wonder why non tribal groups almost always use simpler arrowheads. Better against armor I guess?
>>64661106Totally speculating her, but it may be because these are wooden tipped arrows. The wooden barbs are more likely to blunt or snap off when embedded in a target than a metal barb, so you counter by more, redundant barbs.Having the arrow stick in is probably useful for hunting: to avoid losing the arrow when you retrieve the carcass, to slow down the animal before it dies and so the animal causes more damage to itself when it moves.
>>64661106Yeah no ones running around in armour when its 34C and about 90% humidity, a lot of it comes down to the path of least resistance when its a wooden arrowhead. Lots of very hard timber that can be straightened, hardened a bit more in a fire and carved, shaped fairly easily and it'll 'do the job'A lot of the more viciously barbed stuff is probably for fishing, some of the sharper/barped others might be for hunting or shooting people you don't like very much and the more needle-shaped ones probably go a bit further, stick in things better. Which is what I suspect that they use on other people most of the time, cheap, easy to use and they won't enjoy it hanging out of them which gets the idea across without you getting into shorter ranges.The big bladed arrows are probably more for hunting things like pigs, tree kangaroos, possums and stuff like that. Plus in jungle conditions you're not pulling off 50m shots across a field or anything, more 10-15m ranges innawoods
if you posted this saying it was atlanta, i would've believed you
Meanwhile in West Papua.
>>64659467>>64659514No, these are just self bows, not longbows. They need a certain draw weight to be considered lingbows, and tribal African bows are generally less than 20 pounds.
>>64661196That's not in africa you amerilard
>>64661201>implying euroshit zoomers would know any better
>>64659640Just open a new tab come on
>>64659064Turns out that untrained skirmish-based conflict is functionally just a deadlier version of dodgeball.
>>64659064>tribeWe call them "gangs" in the US. The only difference between our evolutionary dead ends is that they have guns and welfare.
>>64659229>Third world theatricsFuck off. Westoids do it too. You fly your glowie planes right up to the border, or sail ships as "right of navigation". You just do it with jets and ships instead of bows and arrows. Trump was pushing for nuke tests to dick wave as well.
>>64661575Trump is an honorary thirdie
>>64660622Anon, the fight would be over, but tomorrow they'll still be the tribe in the next valley and eager for a rematch to 'get even', repeat for as many days, months, seasons, years as you need to finally figure out that new balance (armed standoff/ceasefire with no active hostilities/peace by any other name) because a perpetual state of active war is tiresome and a burden on all parties. But fine, if you want a more recent example of the *exact* same logic:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_axe_murder_incident>Absolutely, utterly fucking stupidYes, it's perfectly human
>>64659064Were there any casualties?
>>64661239Its all fun and games until someone loses an eyeThen its just fun and games with worse depth perception
>>64661201Yeah, vastly different lol.
Tribal warfare is exactly like monkeys squaring off, which is 99% posturing
>>64659514>If you look at African conflicts, you usually have absurdly high death tolls but mostly civilian casualties, they shoot at one another without aiming until the losing side gets scared and runs away, then the winners do ethnic cleansing, rinse and repeat.Yeah. In fact if you look at those crazy wars in Liberia and Sierra Leone with cannibals wearing wedding dresses and carrying AKs, it was rare for a whole unit (if ever) to get wiped out in an engagement. It's just not that style of fighting.
>>64659064Honestly the athleticism is impressive even if the…strategy and tactics are a little one dimensional. Imagine being able to train these guys properly and give them real weapons, hell bolt action rifles would benefit them immensely. Look at the motivation and willingness to fight. You can use that
>>64659466No, this is just what it looks like when you're too scared to be effective. Saying that this is on purpose is cope. They absolutely would exterminate each other if they could. Someone who actually manages to hit someone wouldn't get a smack on the head and be told he's an idiot for breaking your imaginary scenario, he'll be lauded as a hero.
