It doesn't seem like it happens anymore
>>64659842Depends on what you define as "cowardice." Soldiers are absolutely punished for disobeying orders still.
>>64659842yeah>https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/899
>>64659842>questions that could have solved with two websearches. Pointless thread op. Thanks for not spamming another Ukr-Russhithread tho.
>>64659854>>64659924OP didn't ask if there were specific laws about it, they asked if people were still punished for it.
>>64659939yeah
>>64659945There are still cities where you can get a ticket for "walking three abreast on a sidewalk" but who actually gives out tickets for that?
>>64659939People are still punished for it until it is no longer law. They aren’t outdated concepts. The United States military takes these laws very seriously. If you disobey orders during wartime to the end that it influences life and death, you are absolutely liable to get the needle. Supreme Court said premeditated murder is the only crime where a death penalty can constitutionally be carried out, citing the Eight Amendment, so it’s unlikely to see commonly until congress declares war again.
>>64659842Some gook who got caught with CP was found guilty of desertion after he fled Joint-Base Lewis-McChord pending trial and then murdered some random cab driverhttps://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article305081221.html
>>64659842>Alfred DreyfusLiterally did nothing wrong.
Slightly related, but look up Eddie Slovik, the only US soldier who was executed for cowardice in WWII. Interesting read.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik
>>64660053>that whole fucking letterThis retard deserved execution purely for his stupidity alone
>>64659842My co fled to hide at his parents house during rona. He got promoted and posted to Ottawa if that counts.
>>64660053>>64660089If he was honestly too scared and couldn't will himself to fight, and just showed integrity by repeatedly incriminating himselfdoes he really deserve to die?
>>64660398Yeah. It's like the bit from Starship Troopers (the novel not movie) where the recruit private (forget his name) that socked Zim was given every out to avoid incriminating himself but he just doubled down until the disciplinary action grew legs and was beyond the control of the officers in charge.
>>64660398Deserters aren't executed to punish the severity of their offense, they're executed to discourage other soldiers from deserting. In many cases in war, it is necessary to send a unit into battle that you know is going to suffer heavy losses or even be wiped out, and it is important to the broader outcome of the battle that they continue to resist the enemy as long as possible even if they're doomed. If you punish desertion with anything less than death, most soldiers would just desert in the face of a hopeless situation, and the enemy would overrun their positions to the detriment of the war effort.
>>64660398We wouldn’t have done it if he knew he was gonna get the firing squad. He was already a felon and thought he was gonna get just gonna get another stint, almost certainly commuted upon the end of the war. As they roped him to the firing pole, his 71 IQ ass even bitched that they were just punishing him with prejudice of being a Floyd his whole life. A real dindu before dinduing got a flag.
>>64660398This child thinks everyone who ever fought in a war did it voluntarily. And that everyone who ever waged a war did it only with inspiring speeches and the promise of foreign pussy. Growing up is realizing every nation, EVERY nation, forces—or will force—young men to kill and die for them coercively up to and including threat of death.
>>64660121TBF, Canada is ruined and nobody with any balls is left up there. So, there's that.
>>64660053>"They're not shooting me for deserting the United States Army, thousands of guys have done that. They just need to make an example out of somebody and I'm it because I'm an ex-con. I used to steal things when I was a kid, and that's what they are shooting me for. They're shooting me for the bread and chewing gum I stole when I was 12 years old."How could he think they are gona let him live if he is gona keep deserting? He even said he is gona do it again and he is gona refuse combat.
>>64660398>There can be no doubt he deliberately decided that confinement was preferable to the risks of combat, and that he deliberately sought the comparative comfort of the guardhouse. To him and those soldiers who might follow his example, if he achieves his end, confinement is neither deterrent or punishment. He has directly challenged the authority of the government, and future discipline depends upon a resolute reply to this challenge. If the death penalty is ever to be applied to desertion it should be imposed in this case, not as a punitive measure or retribution, but to maintain that discipline upon which an army can succeed against the enemy. There was no recommendation for clemency in this case and none is here recommendedHaving a guy stare you in the face and say "nope, I'll take whatever I get instead" makes it about the most justifiable case you can get. He was trying to play them for leniency, and if he did it, others would too. Basically had to shoot him to stop a domino effect.
>>64660053>I'm too afraid to risk death so I'll choose to steadfastly follow the only course of action guaranteed to result in my deathWhy are illiterate retards like this?
>>64660784Slav thought he had white privilege. Thank god he was executed before the war ended and got back to being a nigger in decent public.
>>64660866Seems like he was playing chicken with a train.
>>64660866>why are retards retarded?Why do retards ask retarded questions?>
>>64659842Ask yourself if anyone has been held accountable for any military failures in civilized world in the past 30+ years. A general is more likely to get punished for fucking his secretary than losing a battle in the modern day.
>>64660398He deserves punishment but on the softer side that if he didn't really directly compromise or get anyone killed in his unit. But the harder side is that he was an uncontrollable pain in the arse that compromised his unit's fighting potential by being worse than useless and potentially causing real problems. At that point his CO should have just had the MP's get rid of him for malingering and got him the fuck out before it became an issue, but he didn't because there was a war going on and a lot else happening. So they might not have had the resources to do that.In hindsight, no. He's a fuckup for sure but probably not enough to warrant a death penalty and there's a whole cascade of failures that somehow made him end up there instead of in the rear driving a truck, peeling potatoes or basically anything else that didn't involve being shot at
>>64659993>Supreme Court said premeditated murder is the only crime where a death penalty can constitutionally be carried out, citing the Eight AmendmentWe used to be a proper country
>>64660053>im fucking scared to die!>i know!>lets desert, have WRITTEN PROOF of our intention to desert, which is punishable by the DEATH PENALTY What a fucking retard, he deserved to die.
>>64661212That's what happens when women and non whites get a say in anything.
>>64660398See >>64660486This was about making an example, and this dumbass had been so utterly brazen about it that any consequence short of putting him up against the wall was essentially undermining military justice as a whole.If he had at any point, just shut the fuck up and accepted the offer of transfer to another regiment, he would have in all likelihood survived the war. Hell, deserting while he was still stateside or agreeing to a transfer and then deserting later would have offered better chances.
>>64661496Exactly, but liberals held this guy up as a fucking martyr. Seriously Hollywood should have been purged in the 1930's.
