Could an amphibious invasion of Odessa been viable had the Russian had access to more Zubr Class LCACs?
Nah
>>64659853would've been interesting to see this attempted honestly, Don't think these have ever been proven in combat
>>64659903>proven in combat>used by Russia, Greece, and China.We will see the day.
No, but i'd love to see them trying
>>64659853>Zubr Class LCACs>60mphHow fast are drones? That is a big target.
>>64659917
Why did Russia even build this shit? What was the planned use for it? They have two. Greece has four, China six. Like why keep the remaining two when you could sell them to China.
>>64659917Man I forgot to check in with Armchair after he ran away after the submarine attack.
>>64659917I think Odesa is getting more links to Moldova and Romania.
>>64659951It wasn't Russia but Ukraine that built them during soviet times and it was also Ukraine who sold their stock to Greece and the blueprints to China
Post above me needs a few more English classes
64660036You are brown
>>64659853I wish the Ukrainians never sank the Moskva. If that floating turd was still around you just know that Russia would have tried dollar store D-day and some of the greatest go pro footage of the war would have been made watching them fuck it up.
>64660036>tripfag>incoherent schizobableMany such cases!
>>64659935FPVs are roughly 80kmh-150kmh.They can catch it easily but not do much it unless they got lucky with a fuel tank or engine. It's really big, the drone only has an rpg head.The real problem is that drones weren't used offensively as doctrine until around the siege of Bakhmut.
>>64660163This is one of their more coherent posts. It's even on topic.
>>64659935Look at the size of that fucker you dronebrained retard. That's the kind of target you have anti ship missiles for.
>>64660196>>64661576> a drone in each of you're three turbines. Heh, nothing personnel.Wouldn't that do the work, if nothing else was available?
>>64659986Okay, why did Ukraine even build them? Russia =! USSR. What were they planning to use them in invasion of? Turkey?
I think they're neat.
>>64659853Moskva was their only fleet AA. Once that died, any landing became impossible.
>>64661642Because the USSR had to keep up the appearance of being a major military power.
>>64662385The Zubr LCAC literally had Its own CIWS and Strela/Igla launchers for anti-air on top of 140mm rockets for suppressing the landing site
>>64659853No, because russia has lost naval control of the Black Sea to a country without a navy.
>>64662430that might be fine for drones, but that's not gonna stop a AShM
>>64659913Greek ones are not operational because of poor maintenance and the unavailability of spare parts.
>>64659917He's right but not for the reason he thinks he is.
Reminder: We were SO CLOSE to getting the amazing mishap.
>>64662430the strela/igla launcher was either a prototype only or it was never mounted, even in the video its missing, it's supposed to be on top of the bridge.i could only find a picture of one on a scale model, all hovercrafts in active service are missing it.
>>64662549Don't, it's too soon. The kino would have been incredible. We could have had attack ships on fire off the coast of Odessa
>>64659917He's not wrong, the Russian Navy is always good for a laugh.
>>64659917>haha I somehow missed that post from the early days of the war>check again>its a new postAnd of course he thinks it would be no big deal to achieve
>>64662430How well the that CWIS work on the Moskva? Are we also forgetting that Ukraine still had ballistic missiles at the time this could have been feasibly used? What would this thing have done if Ukraine had ATGMs, anti-tank guns or tanks covering the landing sights?
>>64662754He genuinely believes Russia has the same capabilities and resources as all of NATO
>>64662754>sea drones are ineffectual>[montage of sea drone impacts]
>>64662754>Ukraine would lack the ability to challenge anything moving in the Black SeaThis is without a doubt the dumbest fucking thing I've heard in all of 2025, holy shitAfter the BSF has been SMASHED and SLAMMED by the sea babby and hasn't sailed in force for almost 4 years?
>>64662809 (me)I fucking take that back after seeing >>64662775>drones are useless>drones will also prevent Harpoons tho
>>64662775After nearly 4 years of being utterly wrong about everything it's amazing he still bothers at all. He's not even managed the 'stopped clock is right twice a day' level
>>64662754>basically need to take control of the entire coastline (not just a beachhead) to ensure that Taras can't access any random stretch of beach from which to deploy drones>that's hundreds of kilometres of coastline>on the other side of the country>while only being able to resupply and reinforce via shipsNothing could ever go wrong, I think the russians should do it.
>>64659853>an amphibious invasion of Odessa
>>64662832This is why he's the anti-Nostradamus, the opposite will always happen of when he predicts. Otherwise there would have been at least some times he'd have been right, it's just a statistical fact with the amount of shit he spews.
>>64662832He still believes that the Kharkiv offensive utterly hollowed out the Ukrainian army and was therefore a Russian victory. I'm not sure where he even gets the idea that he is any kind of authority on the matter in the first place, even russian milbloggers think he's a retard.
>>64662858
>>64662858>the Kharkiv offensive utterly hollowed out the Ukrainian armyWait...the one that only made it to the town like, 3km from the border last year?
>>64662430AK-630s are absolute dogshit. Genuinely useless.
>>64662858Where do all oracles get their info? The gods themselves whisper in his ear, unfortunately for him they find tragedy as compelling as comdey and delight in fucking with mortals.
>>64662865Wait, those are recent posts‽ I thought those were old screenshots from 2022. I cant even begin to fathom that level of delusional thinking. >>64662881No, I'm talking about the counter-offensive back in 2022.
>>64662922>No, I'm talking about the counter-offensive back in 2022Oh Christ that's somehow even worse; that's where the the Abandoooooner meme came from and UA captured and absolute ass ton of equipment
>>64659917This guy thought it was a good idea to tweet that he missed Lira
>>64662980He's like the Chris Chan of milboggers, and I don't mean in the way they both are sex offenders with an unhealthy obsession with the imaginary worlds they have created for themselves and truly UGLY looking hair, but in they way that somehow they both escape all reprecussions for their past actions and somehow just keep going.
>>64662858He also said the Kursk invasion was a huge mistake and was utterly defeated on the first day >4 months later....
>>64662754I have an twitter account for anime/cosplay tiddies and asses and i still got served his hot takes today.What an absolute menace, and a gift for lolcow enjoyers.
>>64662754>>64662809>Ukraine would lack the ability to challenge anything moving in the Black Sealol lmaos even
>>64663226I forgot pic
>>64662754Genuine question, has copelord ever been right about anything? Like, there is gotta be a few posts where he wasn’t completely wrong, right?
>>64663262A couple things like the Southern counteroffensive largely not succeeding, but thats more down to always predicting Ukrainian failure
>>64663262I think he is useful idiot who sits in some IncelSlaveSZ channel and slurping bs that Pussia spits out, so 100% of his take is just always backwards
>lose control of the Black Sea >perfect time for a landing operationIts so dumb russians might actually try it.
>>64663357I hold onto the belief Copelord is secretly a TZD enjoyer who gaslights Russian glowies into doing retarded shit.
>>64662754>>64662775Just how fucking clueless can this dimwit be?A fucking kid playing Panzer General is legit leagues above him>at least no one has to wonder why he never made O-3
>>64663357That and Odessa was a fortress in 2022, complete with sea mines and an armed population.
>>64663357>Its so dumb russians might actually try it.I think there's a chance the russian navy will be forced to do a stupid stunt in a Hail Mary attempt to prove they are useful, "last ride of the Yamato" styleAll bets are off what that could be kek
>>64663398I doubt it, the Black Sea Fleet is considered "nonfunctional" for combat, and the only thing they can do is launch cruise missiles
>>64662754>copelordstradamus predicts russia cuts off Ukranian access to the Black Seaare we about to see russia lose their much vaunted warm water ports?
>>64663398>There's a chance that the Russian Navy has a mutiny after being ordered to sortie, which kicks off a national revolution, ala Germany in 1918. Please, God and Santa, it would be so funny.
>>64663415>ala Germany in 1918.Or the mutiny on the cruiser Aurora or the Kronstadt rebellion.
>>64659853An invasion? Yeah. A succesful one. LMAO, no. I'm still salty they didn't try and give us the Dollar-Store D-Day, tho.
>>64663357may we see the loss of Black Sea control?
>>64663690See >>64663230
>>64663695lmao damn..... so whens the crimean beach party?
>>64662457>that might be fine for dronesThat's giving Russian AD a LOT of credit. Naval AD at that.That said, Ukraine would probably just AShM then either way, so the point is mute.
>>64660196Flying one into each of those big ass fans would probably do the trick unless it has some sort of redundant propulsion system
>>64663711about six months after the Russians stop shipping replacement air defence systems into the region
>>64662430I've seen enough movies to know that you simply fly the drone between the CIWS turrets to make them shoot each other.
>>64662893I wish I still had the graphic of the tests performed with Chinese ciws ak630 was like 11moa
>>64659853They can't even take smalls cities
They will run in fear.
>>64660128the op is browner, maybe just spiritually but that still counts imho
>>64659917He's not wrong it'd be fuckign hilarious
>>64662865>massively degraded AFU>degraded enough to conduct an amphibious invasion>world's second army still hasn't taken the Donbass Genuinely can't even conceive of just being this delusional about anything, how much ego and self worth does this spastic have tied up in this.
>>64664541>how much ego and self worth does this spastic have tied up in thisNow you're begining to understand people like him. They sense of identity is completely tied to their beliefs. If you showed him direct proof he was wrong about something in the war he would not believe it, for to believe it everything he stands for would mean nothing. The war and his ego are inseparable.
>>64659853>As a Chinese admiral (retired) once explained to me on a visit to Beijing that Russia lacks the comprehensive national strength to undertake a major amphibious assault:>"The capture of [Ukraine's] coast can be achieved by landing troops from the sea and air or by forcing a crossing of the Dnieper River by ground forces; let's start with the amphibious landing. Naval and Air Assault>The first thing that comes to mind when seeing the phrase "naval assault" is a landing operation from the sea, and also from the air – something like the Allied landings in Normandy during World War II.>However, a successful Russian naval and air assault on the Ukrainian coast is no more realistic than a space marine landing from orbit.>We will not be able to provide such a scale...>All stages of preparation and the start of the naval and air assault operation, including the loading of personnel and equipment onto ships and aircraft, as well as their departure to sea / takeoff from airfields, will be detected by the enemy's technical and intelligence means, by which we mean the US and other NATO countries.>And the process of ships/aircraft approaching the landing/drop point will be observed in real time by reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft operating over the Black Sea and the territories of neighboring NATO countries.>Naturally, under such conditions, the landing force is doomed.>The ships will be destroyed at maximum range by Neptune and Harpoon anti-ship missiles, as well as kamikaze drones and naval mines, which are undoubtedly densely scattered along the Ukrainian coast. However, it can be confidently stated that in the current conditions, even the US Navy would not be able to carry out a landing operation on the Ukrainian coast without monstrous losses in equipment and personnel." VO-Rus, 17 Dechttps://x.com/i/status/2002142344850600227
>>64659853That looks like art out of a sci-fi book.
Theory: there's a GRU service dedicated to MAKE RUSSIA LOOK WEAK so that other countries feel like they do not need to botherI can imagine GRU agents setting up scene that make Russia's force look pathetic, in a way they can always undo on command for their own propagandaGRU agents putting a bullet in the head of a soldier who accidentally made them look badass on a video meant to be memed for European publicGRU agents making their own anti-Russian meme with dumb shits with no real effort put into itGRU agents briefing Tsar Putin that he should make completely retarded propaganda to not be taken serious (then they are executed after the plan work)
>>64664559>If you showed him direct proof he was wrong about something in the war he would not believe it, for to believe it everything he stands for would mean nothing.This is actually a very interesting thing common to all schizo conspiracy theorists/ fringe sect members, even scam victims.Sure there are a lot of other factors (esp in copelords case, like the need to feel unique/smart or validation from others) but the sunk cost alone is insanely strong on it's own, to the point of even hitting people that aren't outright schizosTo put things into perspective, there are scam victims still clinging to the scams that screwed them over not only after it was exposed but long after the perpetrator was imprisoned for it.
>>64664541>>64664559You're both fools to discount the one true knower like that.He consistenly posts the exact opposite of the truth, how in the fuck would he be able to do that if he didn't know the truth first?>by buying into Russian propagandaThat only gets you so far, he is way more consistent than they are.
>>64662754>it would involve seizing southwest Odessa Oblast and it would start by destroying the bridges connecting it to "mainland" Ukraine.>Ukraine would lack the capability to challenge anything moving in the Black Sea once the beachhead is secured. All the Russians have to do is surveil that gap.the nostradumbass has spokenCrimea beach party will be held in 2026
>>64663690The fact that Russian naval assets don't leave port (but still get hit). Trying to go>h-h-hah when you taking Crimea thenDoesn't correlate with the Black Sea Fleet conceding control of the sea. The only reason they can do this without any major issue is because Ukraine doesn't have a navy (which makes their multiple naval losses all the funnier).
>>64664917There was defo IRA programs to say that Ukraine already got loads of aid [and therefore anybody saying they've not gotten enough is a vatnik shill they don't need more] because it happened ALL the time on /k/. You'd go>Ukraine didn't get enough stuff, they need more>VATNIK VATNIK USA AND GERMANY GIVEN SO MUCH STUFFFFFF It was clearly encouraging people to say 'they got enough' and then follow up with 'muh taxes' and 'we need it at home'.
>>64663415>>64663444>Get promoted to the 155thFuck this Aurora 2.0 let's go
