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>>64661400
That video is obsolete because they just made a 65km spool: https://x.com/i/status/2002123847961891026
I wonder how long will It take for them to make a 75-80km spool, thus beating the standard range of HIMARS' GMLRS

>>64661400
>actually halfway decent subject for a thread
>>64661407
>OP instantly ruins it by trying to sell it as russia's latest wunderwaffen that makes HIMARS obsolete and HATO tremble in fear
Like, we would engage your stupid fucking vatnigger threads if you didn't always try to do this bullshit. No, this is obviously not practical on a large scale and is especially not going to counter HIMARS, which not only has range and accuracy but also mobility. These sorts of ultra long range FPVs cannot be used at high volume for a variety of reasons, must be launched from relatively immobile positions, and are probably used ideally against the occasional high-value static target far behind enemy lines (particularly when your precision ballistic munitions are not very precise, as is the case for russia)

>>64661400
>60km long fiber optics spools for FPV drones being built right now. Does this mean that FPV drones literally outrange all ATGMs and most artillery that are in service right now?

Yes.
Which is why artillery is entirely obsolete.
Especially since there's already AI algorithms which run on small, cheap and low power hardware and which are good enough to detect targets from a camera picture, entirely passively. So no more fiber spool, hell not even an operator.
Program target, define geofence, toss, and it kills a tank. Or a group of infantry. You don't even have to tell it where exactly.

>>64661431
>get jammed
>get decoyed
>can't suppress or cover an assault
This war is just two retards flailing at each other.

>>64661473
>>get jammed
>>get decoyed
You know why both sides are even using fiber optic drones retard?

>>64661431
Making suicide munitions autonomous will lead to them attacking soldiers who are hors de combat and civilians.

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>>64661431
>artillery is obsolete
*pounds you to dust*

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>>64661475
>*gets shot down by shorad*
Oh, no, anyway.

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>>64661400
Should be fiber optics cables ITAR controlled now?

>>64661400
Are there not diminishing returns on this shit? The longer the cable, the lower the payload.

>>64661490
>$100 mil counter to a $1000 drone
Hahahaha, delusional.

>>64661494
What for? They're made in China, not USA.

>>64661543
Jesus, does ammo really cost that much these days?

>>64661479
So exactly what ukries have been doing for years?
What is your point?

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>>64661543
Pretty sure the ammo doesn't cost $100m.
Shorad vehicles aren't one-use.

Well, except for Pantsir I guess.
Why isn't there a thermal cam view of a gerpard from the pov of an incoming FPV?

>>64661479
You mean, just like dumb artillery with a massive CEP is doing already?
Also ziggers care jack shit for international law. So we're not gonna hamstring ourselves to follow it. If some zigvilians die to it, they can blame the head zigger who made us do it.

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>>64661479
>attacking soldiers who are hors de combat
Are they though?

>>64661573
Ziggers send the 300s back in a new assault wave on crutches often enough that Ukies are justified in not considering a 300 to be hors de combat merely because they're missing a leg.

I personally think they should save the ammo and leave 300s to die on the way to hospital or whatever but that's technically crueller than a coup de grace so whatever.
I think the determination to finish ziggers off is because they want the points from a confirmed kill rather than let another unit snipe it from them. The law of unintended consequences strikes again.


>>64661479
>and civilians
Ukies aren't droning civilians and if someone got caught in the crossfire, collateral damage is an accepted part of warfare.

>>64661543
Do you thin the vehicle is launched at a drone and self destructs?

>$100 mil
You're the only one delusional here.

>>64661416
>must be launched from relatively immobile positions
Cant this be bypassed with a second spool on a mobile launch platform?

>>64661490
now there's 50 more where that came from
>>64661473
I love how retards such as yourself just keep repeating the same tired old bullshit cope even long after it's explicitly irrelevant. You can't jam a fiber optic drone.

>>64661607
>Do you thin the vehicle is launched at a drone and self destructs?
all evidence points to yes

>>64661629
>now there's 50 more where that came from
Show me one example of 'drone swarms' in frontline use.

pro tip; you can't

>>64661625
>Cant this be bypassed with a second spool on a mobile launch platform?
Yes and no.
Yes, you could fly a drone out and have it launch a fibre-controlled drone.
The carrier drone could be RF or fibre.

However once it launches the child drone, it can no longer move without breaking the fibre and losing the child drone.
It becomes immobile for the duration of the attack.

If it's 50km from the target, that's not necessarily a big problem but it means that you can't really do it over the front line because it's going to be spotted and destroyed.
It can't really do it that safely behind enemy lines either because being immobile in enemy territory has a large chance of being located and destroyed before the attack completes.

So it's really just flying them up to the front, finding a safe place to land and hide, then launching the child.
Or, hanging back from the front a bit at altitude and launching the child.

Also, doing all this while flying is possible and happens but that has additional battery issues vs landing and hiding. Flying also means not hiding.

>>64661400
Brainlet here, does the fiber optic also provide power to the drone extending their runtime?

>>64661654
No

>>64661654
No

>>64661644
No, I mean: connect the tips of the fiber from two spools. One spool stays on the drone, another one on the launch platform. After the launch both the drone and the platform may get away from the launch position, unwinding their spools. The connected tips stay in the same place.

>>64661669
>After the launch both the drone and the platform may get away from the launch position, unwinding their spools
I can't think of any reason why that wouldn't work.
You might need a small powered widget at the connection but that's nbd.

Whether it would be worth the effort just to have a more mobile carrier drone is another question but the concept seems workable to me.

>>64661684
>>64661669
If it snags you can't pull it, so spool have to be at the drone end

At some point you are going to get signal attenuation due to the length of the wire, which is typically dealt with by installing repeaters in ground based lines but since you cant do that in a spool of drone wire this presumably imposes a hard maximum length that the wire can reach

>>64661400
That looks very heavy

>>64661400
It also means that future battlefields will look like giant silkwebs.
I wish I had the video handy but there is a village on the frontlines in Donetsk that when the sun angles a certain way it turns into a giant glint of light due to the shear amount of fiber optics cables running through it. Cleaning up after the war is going to be a motherfucker

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>>64661801

>>64661807
the horror of war....
can you reuse these?

>>64661400
Gotta buy more Rheinmetall shares. Skyranger's gonna make them skyrocket.

>>64661431
Brainlet take. FPV drones are only a problem for countries that can't into SPAAGs.

>>64661554
>>64661558
>>64661607
The $100mil price tag means that it can only protect 1/100 of the targets that the $1000 drone will happily engage.
ie. It's just barely better than nothing.

>>64661821
Does the US Army have an SPAAG deployed for every single platoon?

>>64661811
They should devise a way to make the fiber deadly so every battlefield becomes salted earth. Wouldn't that be nice?

>>64661811
You could probably cut off segments and use it for tinkering, but the whole length? How would you even collect it?

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>>64661830
You're making up numbers because you're sub 80 IQ brown turide and that is the only way to keep up with your cognitivve dissonance

>>64661831
How much area do you think a platoon covers?
You may wanna take a look at tactical maps.
And how much area do you think a modern SPAAG covers?

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>>64661841
Netherlands just bought 30 SPAAGS for 1 billion €
To put that into perspective Finland has a 300 000 man field army with 64 F35's, 500 Leopard 2's, EU's biggest artillery force with a yearly budget of ~6.5 billion €

You CANNOT economically protect your whole front line with current SPAAG systems, ESSPECIALLY not to a depth of 50km.

>>64661840
>You could probably cut off segments and use it for tinkering
Each cut needs to be polished and perfectly flat for (as close to) 0% reflection.

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>>64661840
>How would you even collect it?
Get to work, private.

>>64661830
>It's just barely better than nothing
What is your life worth?

>>64661637
>swarms
nobody said anything about swarms, retard. stop trying to move goalposts. FPV attacks come in a constant trickle and units nearby launch their next drone
>>64661837
both sides want to move their infantry through the killzone so not an option

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>>64661852
1. The price was not 1 billion
2. The price does not contain just skyrangers but includes ammunition, maintenenace, training, logistics, etc.
3. Even if none of this was the case you're still not even close to 100 million per unit
4. Skyranger is the largest platform of the type


Example; The requested funding for fiscal 2024 will include $130.2 million, or about $10 million apiece, to buy 13 MADIS Increment 1 systems, to be mounted on top of joint light tactical vehicles; $24.6 million to retrofit seven previously procured systems with existing technology.
10 million per unit.


Example 2; The Slovenian Ministry of Defence signed a contract with Valhalla Turrets for 12 Mangart 25 weapon stations (which include the 25 mm turret plus sensors/integration) for a total of €45 million (with VAT).
3,75 million per unit.

Example 3; The Army's initial order on the contract calls for 28 Stryker IM-SHORAD vehicles for $230 million.
8 million per unit.

TL;DR: Your're retarded and brown.

>>64661861
>FPV attacks come in a constant trickle and units nearby launch their next drone
Why then would a SHORAD system capable of shooting them down have trouble with shooting down more than one, you absolute fucking retard?

>>64661407
How much range will the batteries give you carrying how much payload? I hate to give anybody any ideas but eventually you will be forced to switch to one or more internal combustion engines.

All we're seeing is improvements in ultimately defensive use weapons. Fiber optic drones are still too slow to be effective for offensive operations and until rocket/jet drones are effectively spammable and accurate self propelled artillery and rocket systems will dominate in maneuver warfare.

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>>64661431
>60km long fiber optics spools for FPV drones being built right now. Does this mean that FPV drones literally outrange all ATGMs and most artillery that are in service right now?
>Yes.
>Which is why artillery is entirely obsolete.
>Especially since there's already AI algorithms which run on small, cheap and low power hardware and which are good enough to detect targets from a camera picture, entirely passively. So no more fiber spool, hell not even an operator.
>Program target, define geofence, toss, and it kills a tank. Or a group of infantry. You don't even have to tell it where exactly.

i dont even feel comfortable telling you how WRONG you are

>>64661840
>but the whole length? How would you even collect it?
AI driven drone with a spool and arms.

>>64661895
>Fiber optic drones are still too slow to be effective for offensive operations
Tell this to TOW missile system,.

>>64661888
> petrol engine drone
Defeat the whole purpose of drone warfare: small, cheap, mass produced, expendable

>>64661431
> AI algorithms driven drones
AI can't even solve a captcha. It can't even follow white lines on a highway reliably.
It will be piss-easy to conceal against image recognition software.

>>64661481
Airburst arty is terrifying

>>64661431
>Which is why artillery is entirely obsolete.
Absolute, unbelievably clueless retard take

>>64661543
>$100 mil
Try $20 worth of ammo.

>>64662005
Retard.

>>64662198
>Try $20 worth of ammo.
per 1/2half second at 12,000RPM, and the gun must dump the entire magazine per firing order

so its only like $12,000 per trigger pull or something!!!
no refunds!

>>64661840
>How would you even collect it?
Russian POWs.

>>64661807
>fiber optics acting as a net to tangle drones
when you've been droned so much you build a natural immunity

>>64661400
every pound of fiber is a pound less of explosives
Are these for surveillance drones?

>>64662238
>every pound of fiber is a pound less of explosives
>Are these for surveillance drones?

no theyre for drones that sleep on streets like australian abbos, that wake up at the first huff of petrol to reduce whatever was carrying it to molten slag

when does the drone /k/ope stop
its getting pathetic

What would one use this for? A repeater drone? For a standalone application I don't know if it's feasible, the spool and the additional batteries to fly out to 60kms are gonna weigh a fuckton. And to have a fair shot of defeating whatever you're trying to defeat you need a hefty warhead. Remember that it usually takes multiple RPG drones to destroy an MBT. But just now that I wrote this I realized you wouldn't need a big boom against a radar

>>64662276
Have you been living under a rock? Fiber optics FPV drones which are immune to jamming and EW

>>64661511
Unless you start going ICE and with that to larger traditional drones, battery life is going to get you at some point with dimishning returns I'd imagine.

>>64662336
yeah the level of retardation is pretty appalling.

>>64662276
>What would one use this for?

theres like a dozen hours of .webm gore videos of fiber wire drones leveling houses, blowing up tanks, destroying every manner of dirtbike, atv, car, truck anything on wheels really

I cannot believe the state of bots on this board pretending like they have never seen a fiber wired drone before, like its completely "new tech" they cant even ponder a use-case for

>>64661400
Chang and his deformed soiboy wrists can barely lift those spools. Whay good is your drone when the spool takes up 98% of it's lifting capacity and gives it a 1km range? lol lmao even!

>>64661431
>Rapejeet thinking AI, AKA the glorified chatbot, is God again
Why is this an exclusively brown way of thinking? Serious question l, and I want a serious answer.

>>64662214
What is it with thirdies and just making up random numbers? Do you think reality will just bend to adhere to your beliefs?

>>64662238
>>64662276
The thing is that quads have a really high thrust to weight ratio in general. 5:1 or more is not at all uncommon. That's why you see 2kg drones with a battery, kilo or more payload, and fiber optic can while still staying airborne without a problem. This does reduce flight time but it isn't a linear reduction or anything, plus it tends to balance out to some degree because your unladen drone flight times are frequently biased for recreational acrobatic sort of use meaning they're running at high throttle much of the time anyways.

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>>64662443
>What is it with thirdies and just making up random numbers? Do you think reality will just bend to adhere to your beliefs?

LMAO

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>>64662461
Why are you posting something completely unrelated to the subject at hand? Indeed lmao, you illiterate brownoid.

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>>64662467
Now go take a shit on the street.

>>64661479
Russians already do this with man guided drones so what does it matter?

>>64661860
That $30 mil is more than all the vehicles and equipment in three Finnish mortar platoons put together.

>>64662059
I predict a glorious comeback for dazzle cam.

>>64662059
There are literally self driving cars on the streets right now you fucking retard

>>64661400
You're telling me wired connections are impossible to jam?

>>64662198
>ciws in 22lr intercepting drones
NGL, that'll be fucking hilarious to see

>>64662495
> lane assist software that requires the driver to keep hands on the wheel at all times
> It's self driving AI omg
This! So much this

>>64662051
>Defeat the whole purpose of drone warfare: small, cheap, mass produced, expendable

Lithium-ion batteries were expensive rarities before the chinks made multi billion dollars and multi decade investments in R&D as well as production. If you make multi billion dollars and multi decade investments in microturbine R&D you will get similar results, with automated fabs making tiny turboshaft and turbofan engines. This is impossible to do in the West because of our current economic doctrines, only China can pull something like this today.

>>64662399
>Unless you start going ICE and with that to larger traditional drones,

You can buy tiny piston engines for toy aircrafts. Ever lift a chainsaw? Half of that weight is the saw, the other half is the two stroke engine and fuel. Combustion engines does not need to be large.

>>64662563
>before the chinks made multi billion dollars and multi decade investments in R&
You mean copied western tech and then pretended they made it? Implessive

>>64662510
>wired
The autist (not me) could argue that a glass fibe is not a wire. What the heck? A glass fiber is not a wire and does not constitute a "wired connection".

>>64662461

>just an empty shell casing, no explosive, no fuze, is 1200 dollars.

Yikes. Before the war a complete shell was like $ 500

>>64662563
If money could break the laws of physics we'd have nuclear fusion by now

>>64662461
>pallets
NAFO wunderwuffe...

Reminder to brown droneniggers that you will never actually make anything obsolete and thirdies will continue to get slaughtered even with drones being added to warfare.
There will not be a dreadnought moment.
Ukraine and russia are not at the forefront of military technology.
Both of them would get annihalated by any formal western army with an airforce.

>>64661654
Fiber optic = light. It's data only

>>64661473
Do not post if you have no understanding of the topic.

>>64662198
ok and how much is the vehicle worth again? What if the vehicle gets droned? Still worth it?

>>64662660
a powerful enough light can be used to power the device, but this may interfere with two-way communication drones are having

>>64662574
Drones make headlines but 155mm NATO gets the work done.
You can never get your hands on enough 155mm.

>>64662689
While I appreciate your effort to spread misinformation to thirdie MICs that may be reading this thread, I can't let the possibility slide that you actually believe this.
The fiber would melt long before you'd push enough photons through it to power any part of an FPV drone.

>>64662574
>anon discovers supply&demand equilibrium

>>64662691
this

>>64662691
>>64662701
It’s popularity bias
The average person is literally too retarded to comprehend that artillery shells are still killing people in great numbers, even without a camera literally strapped to their front recording the last moments of whatever they’re hitting.

for many the idea that the vast majority of drone videos where the drone misses, does minimal damage, or just gets destroyed/disabled from a distance by any number of emerging countermeasures DON’T get posted online is impossible for them to understand. It’s like flattards acting all incredulous at evidence that they cannot see directly with their eyes.

>>64661400
>>64661407
>65km
At that point I doubt it is even practical versus just sending a winged kamikaze drone to do the job. There's no way anyone has serious EW set up 60km+ deep behind their front line that an unwired drone can't deal with.

>>64662753
Plus the fact that the bigger you make the spool, the easier it becomes to shoot it down. They are becoming comedically big compared to the drones carrying them

>>64662699
i said nothing about powering an fpv drone

>>64661400
Those look comically heavy.
A little nimble quad FPV isn't going anywhere with that much weight on, it has to be a lumbering baba yaga.

>>64662753
>>64662760
It's hard to get a signal out to 60km

>>64661873
These shorad systems cannot handle drones

>>64661895
There are no such thing as "offensive operations" against drones and landmines

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>>64663130
>These shorad systems, designed to shoot down drones, cannot handle drones

>>64661744
>If it snags you can't pull it, so spool have to be at the drone end
The point of anon's idea is that both the mother and the daughter drones have their own spool and the junction remains static and drops where it is.

So both spools are on a moving drone, where they connect remains static.

>>64661770
>installing repeaters in ground based lines but since you cant do that in a spool of drone wire
Not in one spool no but you can in the junction between two spools.
See: >>64661669

>>64661840
>You could probably cut off segments and use it for tinkering
No, it's way too delicate to be reused. It doesn't survive being recoiled outside of factory environments.

At best you can melt it down because it's high grade silicon. Maybe not CPU grade but you can make new fibre out of it at least.

>>64663136
>designed to shoot down drones,
they aren't. small cheap quadrotor drones did not exist in the minds of the military industrial complex when this shit was designed.

>>64661431
>Which is why artillery is entirely obsolete.
Ah yes, the SPG which has to stay in the same position to control the shell instead of GTFOing after shooting.

>>64662198
The issue isn't ammo cost, but the system cost itself. Actual auto-cannons, radars, people trained in operating them, logistics to support them and so on.

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>>64663222
They are literally anti-drone solutions, google it, dumb faggot.

>>64661479
Nobody gives a shit about that. The bigger issue is blue-on-blue attacks (do you want to give each solder an IFF radio?) and targeting recognition reliability overall (model trained on tank, retards make a barn-tank and suddenly its not a valid target anymore).
>t. developer of this shit

>>64662660
Technically you can send power over fiber in special ways, but these drones treat fiber just as an Ethernet cable.

>>64662051
The real issue is maneuverability. The multi-rotor copter design, which is based on independent having rapidly throttleable electric motors, allows for crazy levels of agility and maneuverability, which would be impractical to try and reproduce with conventional engines.

>itt: /k/ pretends its literally never in its life seen a fiber wire drone before, despite literally thousands of webms of Russian fiber drones camping roads waiting to spring up detonate whatever gets close to them

>>64661431
>Especially since there's already AI algorithms which run on small, cheap and low power hardware and which are good enough to detect targets from a camera picture, entirely passively.
Wow, someday they might manage to invent a missile that US has been fielding since the 80s.
Scary stuff.

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>>64662539
Are you just pretending to be retarded, or is this genuine?

>>64662411
Those drones don't have a range of 60km and it has nothing to do with the length of their fiber spool.

>>64663355
>gets stuck in an endless loop going around a roundabout
>gets stuck in an intersection when a police officer tries to direct traffic
>tries to back into oncoming traffic repeatedly
>runs over a few pedestrians
10/10 truly the future

>>64663361
whatever range they have its so effective it blots out the landscape

>>64663363
>government can't standardize the road
>this is companies fault

>>64663377
>i-it's not AI's fault
>the roads are wrong
profound mental retardation

what lipos are they using for 60KM+ range? Carrying a payload + the spool + the lipo must be insanely heavy

>>64663373
Anon...
Even >>64661807 is a couple miles at most
60km is well beyond the horizon. FPVs don't have that kind of range, even if the only thing they were carrying was this fiber spool and a fuckload of batteries. The extra weight means it takes way more power just to get off the ground, and all the drag means you can't fly particularly fast.

>>64663402
They using fixed wing drones too. Vid rel probably is just a chinese company using social media for their marketing, they do that a lot.

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>>64663363
None of that happened when I took one.

>>64663377
Yes.

>>64661400
This can't be good for the environment

>>64663509
Excellent material for nests

>>64661807
wow, this shit is going to be a disaster to clean up, how the fuck do you even go about doing it?

even if you were able to keep such a massive line of fiber optic airborne for 50km, no way the drone is actually going to have that range. First, just the weight of all that line will sag it to the ground eventually, and it will snag on literally anything and the drone will not be able to continue.
I mean eventually for a smaller FPV drone the weight of the line is going to be as much or more than the drone after a few km. This just won't work unless it's a massive drone that can keep a line completely airborne as it travels that kind of range

>>64663588
Anon you're kind of retarded
Do you know what happens when the wire gets snagged?
It unspools more wire

>>64663588
People have been using drones with +40 kg of payload since 2023-2024. The baba yaga of 2022 can carry 15-25 kg. And there're fixed wing drones with spools too.
>, just the weight of all that line will sag it to the ground eventually,
unlike early missiles with steel wires, those lines aren't under tension

>>64663588
Anon, baba yagas can lift grown men into the air.

>>64663598
>>64663609
>>64663610
ok I am kind of retarded, for some reason I assumed that this was left behind from the drone because of the weight but the drone carries the wire with it, but man that means the drone is going to have to be huge

>>64663614
At that kind of range, that's a given because it would be hitting rear echelon assets and would thus require a large warhead to deal with hardened targets or to simply ensure their destruction.

>>64663614
Yes, some drones are comically large and expensive (they include a decent thermal camera too), some of them actually carry smaller FPV drones for the giggles.

>>64663614
>The drone is going to have to be yuuuuuge
We have the technology

>>64663627
At that point why not just send a missile?

>>64663647
probably harder to detect and destroy a drone even if it's larger since you can fly it so low and fast and maneuver in ways a missile cannot.

>>64663647
You can't fly a missile back to base after hitting your target

>>64663363
>AI isn't 100% reliable at navigating an incredibly chaotic road network
>this means that AI cannot drive a drone into a moving tank sized heat signature in the designated grid square
...

>>64662737
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The statistics we got was that 10-17% of Drones hit their target (Depending on unit data, there was no consolidated and averaged out PH last i saw)

According to Wild Hornets all of their drones (FPV Suicide,bomber and observation) have destroyed around 1.7 Billion dollars worth of Russian assets (that includes 818 personell and a few hundred vehicles)

Thats during 2 years of delivering around 100 drones a day to Ukraine, their cheapest FPV drone costs 400 dollars to make and you need to arm it with somekind of warhead (The RPG-7V thats normally used costs around 600ish) for around 1k to 1.5k.

So over 2 years and 73 thousand drones (Give or take say 10%) they spent around 80 million, The problem with this number is that some of this will be kills made by other systems through their spotting drones.

>>64663647

Because its hard for them to make missiles at the same pace, a good missile or loitering munition has a probability of hitting and killing up in the .9 range, but they cost a lot more (60k for a Switchblade) Meaning you can either use a switchblade to achieve your kill or or achieve a couple of potential kills with drones.

>>64663647
Missile are still 100x more expensive and literally incapable of completing the same tasks.
Drones are a revolution, get this drilled into your skull.

>>64663419
look stupid ass

no matter what your dumb shit opinion on fiber drones is or their 'use-case',
the fact of reality is they are so vitally important the fiber strings of said drones absolutely saturate the landscape where deployed, to an extent never seen before in history

>>64663647
Costs and availability as well as time sensitivity. Drones are cheap and plentiful but slow. Missiles are the opposite so if your target is not very mobile and not particularly expensive a drone is the cheaper option. If your target is both expensive, very mobile, highly dangerous and the window of opportunity to hit it is narrow? Then by all means a missile is the better, and sometimes only choice.

>>64663647
Expensive by drone standards is 10k to 30k. Expensive by a guided missile standards with that range is considerably more at 100k to 200k.

>>64661770
At some point, sure.
Nominal max length for a single-mode fiber line is about 660,000 feet, or about 200km. Also, unlike static networking applications that optimize for throughput, FPV can suffer a massive degradation and still remain effective. You can easily drive a drone in full hd on just 10Mbps both ways.

>>64661841
You, OTOH, are mindlessly quoting ad text for systems that haven't been tested against anything spicier than a Mavic carrying a water bottle. And following that up with paper budgets and tactics from armies that haven't fought a near-peer war in at least two generations.

>>64661888
Trips of truth.
On an ICE-powered drone you have the power and weight budget for a semi- or fully-autonomous guidance and targeting package. Congrats, you've just invented the last model Geran'.

>>64662421
Because the chatbot is smarter than the jeet.
Regardless, autonomous visual targeting has already been implemented on protoboards with the size and power demands of RPi, and is being deployed in drones right now.

>>64663670
people aren't saying fiber optic drones aren't useful, they're questioning the use of a spool this size

>>64663377
> the roads are not standard
Battlefields won't be standard either lol

>>64662571
> they copied western tech
We've outsourced manufacturing to them*
And now they're better than us at making pretty much anything except advanced weapons systems, but eventually they'll get there.

>>64661400
do the wires retract back like vacuum cords?

>>64661479
>attacking soldiers who are hors de combat and civilians.
Nothing changes?

>>64663779
>they're questioning the use of a spool this size
nigger for what reason?

there is 1000000000000000000 hrs of Russian fiber drone webms slamming into APC's an ATV's...theres images of entier forests covered in it

evidently fiber works

>>64664043
retard
FPVs have a 10-15km range
A 60km spool is just extra weight at that point

>>64664048
There a lot of development going in to long range drones. Fixed wing FPVs can easily go that distance.

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>>64661400
its not particularity efficient

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Fits well with the stuff the Chinese are hoping to sell to the russians.

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>>64664084
>dj skywalker
>$160 3d printed drop mounts
Wonder if that qualifies as hunting equipment

what's the signal loss like with 15# monofilament fishing line?
https://www.berkley-fishing.com/collections/bulk-spool-fishing-line/products/trilene-big-game-monofilament-bulk-spool

>>64661431
>t. watched one opencv tutorial

>>64663363
Wait till you look up how humans drive lmao

>>64664115
Signal loss isn't the important metric, anon
You can literally just boost the input signal, and it wouldn't be a factor in flight because you're already sending the signal throughout the entire loop even before the drone takes off

>>64663647
Missiles are orders of magnitude more expensive and can't do the maneuverability

>>64661490
Now imagine the kino if this was mounted to a refurbed and unmanned M3 / 5 Stuart...
VGH...

>>64663976
They fall down under their own weight like leaves. It is very impostant to make spools with as low friction as possible.

>>64663669
brown