Why did america only destroy iran's nuclear facilities while they cant do shit to north korea?
North Korea is not particularly relevant to the future of the only democracy in the middle east.
>>64661517>there's a vested interest in ensuring iran isn't capable of doing anything more than nuclear energy because the rest of the ME consider them volatile and have less trust in iran than they do israel>north korea is so dirt poor that their nuclear tests is the extent of their nuclear capacity and there's little chance they'd actually do anything because it would be such a massive risk to themselves
>>64661517Because they were sneaky as fuck about it and they don't continuously threaten to nuke the United States.
>>64661525To be fair Iran IS retarded and has a nasty habit of funding and or supporting every terrorist group in existence.
>>64661532But the US does the same. Have you forgotten AlQaeda and the multiple South American rebel groups? Also, the Iranian nuke facilities were not destroyed. They were forewarned by Trump via Putin.
>>64661517They did their first test in 06, which was pretty much the height of the entire military being occupied elsewhere. They also had enough conventional strength, particularly in artillery, to more or less guarantee South Korea would come out of it with a pretty serious black eye following the likely retaliation. In that event let me outline a best and worst case scenario. First, things go smoothly militarily and the regime is changed, at which point someone has to deal with the massive headache of reintegrating the Koreas. The bill for doing so would likely far exceed the cost of doing so in Germany, and would likely come with far more social problems. Alternatively, it escalates from a regional conflict into the third world war if Russia and China feel threatened enough to intervene, which is fairly likely in at least China’s case. Basically North Korea pushed their luck because they guessed correctly that doing anything about it would cause more of a headache for anyone inclined to do so than just allowing them to get the bomb. Iran doesn’t really have any of those same advantages so they get bombed.
>>64661517North Korea sabre rattles every now and then but thus far have not actually attacked anybody which keeps them below the threshold where actually fighting them is required.
>>64661539>Al Qaeda You mean the fucking Mujahideen? Yeah no, they weren't Al Qaeda in fact they went to war against everyone else because they weren't extreme enough. >South American terrorist groups The contras? They were a resistance group that formed because socialism gonna socialism. >they weren't destroyedThirdie cope.
Best korea's nukes are pointing toward china
>>64661540>IranThey have the misfortune of being right along the most profitable shipping lane in the world and again being fucking retards.
>>64661517North Korea had no negative relations with Israel and it serves as a little counterbalance for China.
>>64661526>and they don't continuously threaten to nuke the United StatesThey absolutely do.They've quietened down more recently but ooking out has been their thing for years.Iran has been more aggressive lately and created casus belli that the west can't really ignore. Norks have given the west excuses and good cause to fuck with them but nothing we couldn't really ignore and just respond with sanctions and some glowie activity over.
>>64661517north korea acts like a barrier between south korea and china + russia. the us doesnt want to share a border with those countries
>>64661532>terroristThere is no universally accepted definition of this word, it means nothing.
>>64661517Iran is an open country. You can always book a flight and just go there. Norks do not fuck around when it comes to their borders.So it's unlikely anyone even knew Norks had an active and successful nuke program. Even the Chinese acted surprised and sanctioned them to all hell, blew up bridges going there, following the first successful test.Of course, once you've obtained nukes you can literally do anything (short of using them, or at least that's what makes us sleep soundly at night) and no one will ever bat an eye. That's why Norks are running invasion forces in Europe and it's not even a topic.
>>64661569>it serves as a little counterbalance for China.What? China is basically their closest connection to the outside world. I wouldn’t be surprised if China helped their nuclear program to keep Japan and South Korea in line
>>64661517Because Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. North Korea does.
>>64661698>I wouldn’t be surprised if China helped their nuclear program to keep Japan and South Korea in linePowerful people don't share power, even with their lackeys.China and North Korea have a pretty antagonistic relationship. China is constantly trying to subvert them and bring them under closer control, Norks constantly execute generals and officials who get too close to the PLA or CCP.China restricts what they can buy from China, Norks smuggle stuff in from them and violate China's sanctions constantly, some of them China lets happen, some they don't.Just like China wants other countries to be vassals, like demanding Australia censor anti-Chinese journalists and stuff, they want Norks to shut up and be good little puppets. They just can't help themselves, they're contemptuous of Norks because they're weak, poor and stupid but somehow they never managed to whip them into line.Being a foreign vassal is somewhat counter to Juche obviously and Norks aren't happy with vassal status and refuse to cooperate which must seem both irrational and very frustrating to China.It's a complicated relationship and more adversarial than you might expect.
>>64661712There are minor differences but if you look at the bigger picture China and NK have a similar if not identical foreign policy(combatting the West and its allies in the East, helping regimes antagonistic to the west ie: Russia, Venezuela, Iran) and domestic policy(totalitarian communist states centered on a cult of personality). China might try to appear neutral regarding norks like they do with Russia but they obviously don’t want NK to fall because that would mean having the US build bases right across its border
>>64661517Two reasons:1. Russia and China right next door, theoretically with capacities to intercept US air missions. 2. There will be eventually be a regime change in NK. It might not happen tomorrow, but it will happen some day. And that gives a chance for USA to have nuclear armed ally right next to China and Russia. It is a long term checkmate move.
It's always had too much of a conventional deterrent even in the 90s and happens to also border one of the world's largest urban areas:https://thediplomat.com/2024/01/how-north-korea-deterred-an-american-invasion-in-2002/Iran meanwhile was effectively paralysed before the US struck and prior to that was throwing waves of missiles at Israel rather than levelling Tel Aviv with artillery and chemical weapons.>>64661526>>64661551North Korea has not only repeatedly threatened to nuke the US but has shelled South Korea, kidnapped foreign citizens, engaged in mass cyber-crime, attempted to destroy the US currency and probably came up with that chant when Uncle Sam was in High-School about him having a small dick.
>>64661698There's absolutely no way Beijing helped their nuclear programme. The Kim Dynasty has always drifted closer to Russia (following the Sino-Soviet split) and instability on the Korean peninsula is just as much a problem for China - there's leverage from economic aid and a broad consensus to support stability but the US does at least half of that as well.We saw what will happen with a US invasion a few years back where both China and Russia deployed their military to the border to repel refugees and create buffer zones.
>>64661776>The Kim Dynasty has always drifted closer to Russia (following the Sino-Soviet split) The shift only started happening when Russia had nothing left to lose and desperately needed allies, prior to that they feared western retaliation too much to develop relations to lead to anything meaningful
>>64661814They already had it going during the commie times. After collapse it cooled down for a bit, indeed due Russia trying to play closer to West, but even then they had nork workers in far eastern parts and tourism shit going with north korea.
>>64661814Nah Soviet-NK relations were strong from the start and remained an awkward friendship even as subsidies were ended in the 90s. Close enough that Kim Jong Il travelled to Moscow multiple times and you had North Koreans working in Russia.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktMXlHn9KCA
>>64661517>Why did America only destroy Iran's nuclear facilities>USAjack: "B2's inbound, over!">USAjack: "I totally destroyed Fordo™, its gone..over!">Iranjack: "Yep, you totally obliterated it, all 6 right down the tailpipe!">Iranjack: "yep totally gone, annihilated even, huge setback!"*winks*dabs fists*>seething israeli-jack:"nooo noooooo not like this *stamps,kicks,cries* NOOO YOU PROMISED regime-change™">seething israeli-jack:"*incoherent hebrew cursing and seething*lmao, it was all theater to buy geopolitical space for israel to surrender to Iran, and prevent an existential power vacuum from forming in the region in the wakethe US and Iran coordinated on the entire event
>>64661517Israel isn't threatened by NK all the time. If Iran gets the bomb then they control the middle east. Or they get more say in the middle east. Which means US strategic interests are weakened. Oil control goes to Tehran, regional peace is dependant on The Ayatollah's mood, etc.
Because North Korea can retaliate by shelling America's ally South Korea with artillery.
>>64661931>Which means US strategic interests are weakenedlmao, no it doesnt, it turns outit only weakens israels interests, which are no longer a concernthe suez question has been answered, and either israel learns how to be the silent castrated pariah state of the region, or it gets walked off the international stage foreverisraels choice>(and it can thank these 2 people specifically)
>>64661517Iran came to the nook party too late, North Korea suffered famines and America didn't attack them while they were building up their nookAlso Iran rejected Pakistan's nooks, not even Israel is bold enough to bomb Pakistan
>>64661966>it gets walked off the international stage forever. The US would never let that happen. AIPAC owns too much capital in the government to allow Israel to fail too far.
>>64661845>but even then they had nork workers in far eastern parts and tourism shit going with north korea.There are a lot more north korean workers in China, Russia had also started to slowly phase out nork migration due to the North Korean crisis and fears of US sanctions and reversed it only after the war happenedRussia isn't the USSR so Soviet-Nork relations are irrelevant
>>64661890Here is a (you) for trying
Because North Korea didn't do a pic. rel. chimpout to any of their neighbors. Neither it directly threatens to destroy them for no reason at all. AFAIK they really only care about being left alone and maybe have some fantasies where communism prevails in united Korea.
>>64661997aipac and being israel centric is deadits un-electable radioactive poison nowanyone in the 2026 even mentioning being pro-israel will be completely and totally non-viable as a candidateshapiro and his hysterical pro-jew "get back on the bandwagon or else" messaging was panned hugely the other day. jews dont have any of the clout or influence the had even a few months ago, its that bad>>64662037Iran struck israels deep 'command and control' figures in their homes and at their bases, and israel turned right around and swore to high hell it was ackshully them that did that to Iran...and not the other way around!no one believed it and within days the Qatar debacle happened, and the last sole shred of israeli credibility evaporated forever
>>64662037>for no reason at all.lol, lmao even
>>64662067>for no reason at all.>lol, lmao evenisraeli talking points are so shamelessly pathetic its unrealthe perpetual victim bullshit really is DNA level
>>64661517Because North Korea isnt near America's paymaster (Israel), or the world's main oil suppliers (Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc)?
