When countries buy the F-35, do they buy the software outright or do they license it like Windows 11 and only pay for the permission to use it under the US's permission?
>>64661720The own the plane and the software but need to maintain relations with the US to retain access to replacement parts to keep a fleet operational.This is how it is for every complex military hardware countries import.
>>64661726But anon, what about muh killswitch fantasies, how could you do this to me!
>>64661731why killswitches? It's extremely risky in that if it's secretly slipped in and the moment any customer finds out, it would be a reckoning to any future arms deal.Besides, the US has all the data and complete understanding of the F35's capabilities and shortcomings. Not to mention if a F35 customer ever turns on the US, all maintenance and service for these planes go out the window.
>>64661883Common sense is you sell the customer a version with backdoors and lesser capabilities vis a vis radar/jamming/RWR etc. The customer knows this when they buy it hence why everyone without a MIC capable of developing their own systems is a cuck.
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Singapore revealed that countries who buy the F-35 can fly them for training/fly-bys willynilly but when used against any adversary you need to let America know but didn't detail if you needed their permission.
>>64661720>When countries buy the F-35, do they buy the software outright or do they license it like Windows 11 and only pay for the permission to use it under the US's permission?its a license, ofcourse>>64661731>>64661883there are absolutely "kill switches" in the f35, the munitions it carries, the software it runs on and the hardware it needs to keep the flame onspewing some smug european re-moralazation news segment "our greatest ally would never do that to us" about it is pointless as it is pathetic>>64662084>but didn't detail if you needed their permission.look at ukraine and use your imagination
>>64661883No kill switches but the US is known to sell slightly nerfed versions of the F35.They get away with it because the US sells "protection" as well as gear (Germany is a prime example of this, absolute bitches).
>>64662114>No kill switchesimagine being THAT naive and stupidthe wide-awake-nightmare the eu is in compells it to tell the most pathetic low-hanging lies imaginable to itself, to protect whatever shreds of morale still hanging by a strand
>>64662141you have no idea what kind of software audits go into multibillions hardware acquisitions.You ask for sources, build your own binaries, and plug in your own chips.You'd not need this explained to you if you were above nigger IQ
How did le enlightened Europeans of all people fall for the killswitch propaganda?
There's a reason why only the tribe has special access for custom firmware/OS that America can't track.Not even the Bongs have this special leeway.
>>64662172no shit dumbfuck, sounds like you could bury a million kill switches in the code if you wanted to>>64662181its not propaganda and its real thats why>your home PC and cellphone have backdoor killswitches....>but certainly the f35 wouldnt!!! our bestest "ally" would NEVER do that!HOLY FUCKthe easiest person in the world to scam is a scammer...scammers are ALWAYS trying to get something 'for free'>>64662195>There's a reason why only the tribe has special access for custom firmware/OStheyre shit is a piggy-back system like nigger rigging a rice-burner fast and the furious car with a "tuner"fortunately theres all types of hardware methods to killswitch aside from software
>>64662114>but the US is known to sell slightly nerfed versions of the F35.[Citation needed]
>>64662213>but the US is known to sell slightly nerfed versions of the F35.>[Citation needed]
>>64662213>but the US is known to sell slightly nerfed versions of the F35.>[Citation needed]its called a "black-box" versiongoogle it yourself you european twat
>>64662205You didn't understand a single word I said, my bad for not translating it into retard talk
>>64662232The UK could buy US missiles if they wanted. It's not like Lockheed integrated UK weapons for the US but removed it on export versions.>>64662248>Citation appears to be a single reddit postOh, well in that case, I guess you must be right. Want to know a secret (common knowledge)? The US has to buy the same black boxes as everyone else. Only Israel gets a free pass to bypass Locksneed entirely and integrate whatever systems they want. It's become such a shitshow that the Air Force has stipulated that it must retain direct control over all software in future aircraft.
>>64662292>the Air Force has stipulated that it must retain direct control over all software in future aircraft.lmao...so..a killswitch?
>>64662301Meaning no one else can modify you dumb fuck. Fins getting the F-35 did a number on you.
>>64662301Oh no, the US might remotely disable the F-47s and B-21s you aren't allowed to buy.
What did people actually mean by killswitch? A literal killswitch is basically inviting Russia and China to hack the plane and turn off the plane themselves. Same with backdoor. US cannot be that dumb.
>>64662305lmao finland has f35s nominally, on paperfinland, at best, may have 5 F35's on its soil by 2030, and thats *IF* the US doesnt blow their bussies out in shakedown like belgiums
Sure is a lot of butthurt over 1 fin F-35
>>64662313>>64662314>ahah i forgot the startup codes!>oh shit I left my weapon system arming codes on my US PC in Virginia!>damn, it says I have to upgrade to BlockIV™ or else my windows license will expire and my jet will brick!>fuck my GPS subscription for my missiles ran out again!! and the price is going up!
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>>64662172Why would you post lies that are so easily disprovable?https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-to-withhold-f-35-fighter-software-code-idUSTRE5AO01F/
>>64662328It was in the JSF contract you idiot. Why doesn't Russia send out its raw software source code for everyone to see?
>>64662323Take your med.
>>64662326https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/04/15/f-35-nations-prize-spare-parts-as-us-dismisses-kill-switch-angst/>"The three hubs store U.S. supplied parts that are then forwarded to F-35 users, with the parts remaining property of the U.S. until they’re mounted on an F-35">"we do not buy F-35 parts directly from our industry, as all of them are pooled or distributed to the user nations through combined contracts,” >"As F-35 countries rarely possess more components than what they require for their daily operations or national readiness stocks, it is infrequent to see instances where spares are sent to other users.>“So far, the only examples we’ve had of F-35 parts leaving Norway have been when they are shipped back to the U.S. for repair and replacement,” lmao you yapping vassals better have your hat in hand, serving extra helpings of pweeze&thank before you subserviently eek out whatever idiotic geopolitical 'ask' you have in the future
>>64662343It's in the contract that they agreed to and signed.
>>64662332>Nobody but the US has access to the F-35's source code>But the F-35 totally doesn't have a kill switch because I'm a gullible retard who believes everything the US saysCountries like the UK co-developed the F-35 dipshit, they're not just customers buying a jet.
>>64662352see>>64662347seethe harder jeet
The F-35 isn't a bad plane, its not a disaster like the F-104Countries buy it as a form of protection racket so even if they're keked having the F-35 in your hangars mean that you're in America's umbrella
>>64662347>It's in the contract that they agreed to and signedexactly>"the parts remaining property of the U.S">" F-35 countries rarely possess more components than what they require for their daily operations>"rarely possess more components than what they require for their daily operations">"daily operations"and thats through 5 consecutive decades of "peacetime"
>>64662352>Countries like the UK co-developed the F-35 dipshit, they're not just customers buying a jet.>>64662232lmao, no they are exactly that: "customers"hilarious (broke) third-world pay piggies at that
>>64662343>This whole block of text>It's just you argreeing about being wrongPitiful. The distribution of replacement parts being more centralized and controlled than some buyers would prefer doesn't prove your point at all, brownie
>>64662328Only small time customers get shafted with bitch contracts that don't include source code.Big customers can and do negotiate technology transfers. But that's not something that migroïd flag waving trump supporters want to hear so it's not advertised.
>>64662358>Countries buy it as a form of protection racket so even if they're keked having the F-35 in your hangars mean that you're in America's umbrellaTHIS THIS THIS THIS^"F35 diplomacy":>be europe>have aging jets need replaced badly>call US>"Just wait for the f35! upgrade your current ones and run them untill the wheels falll off..by then ill have your brand new spankin f35 fleets delivered! no problem!"*more times goes by**wheels literally fall off euro jets, and they cant fly*>"geee sorry about those F35's....we promise, plan&expect to deliver your *checks notes* first batch of block1 obsolete f35s by *checks notes again* first quarter 2034!!!!">"No refunds"and thats how you erase an entire continents air power without a single shot fired
Here is a prime example of fail.
>>64662356>>64662363>Haha plebs, you will not own your planes and and you will like it>nooooo why are you developing your own 6th gens instead of subsidizing our MIC? Why do you hate America?>>64662372So what, you think that the UK does have access to the source code but keeps it hidden because the US doesn't want its citizens to know that the fucking UK has access to the source code of a jet they helped to fund and develop?
Sure smells organic in here
>>64662394>Sure smells organic in here
>>64662388It would be an extremely tough pill to swallow for the UK to not have the source code of a jet they funded the development of.At the same time it would be a good commercial argument for the US to say to their customers "no one has the software, not even our closest ally, so you're not at a disadvantage".
>Another F35 software programWhat F35 sales number spooked the chinks/russoids today?
>>64662375> be french> get gold put of US Treasury> kick out US military bases > develop independent national jets> don't get jewed by zog Even from the grave Charles de Gaulle keeps being proven right.
>>64662422Also France>Sell electronic components to Russia>Refuse to cooperate with others for a EU fighter program
>>64662388the uk doesnt have any source code for the f35. the end>>64662410>It would be an extremely tough pill to swallow for the UKwho cares, they will swallow all the same, and thank us for the privilege with hat in hand, and they can continue to dump their missiles overboad should they attempt to fly their f35s actually armed>>64662420none, its simply laughing at vassals doing a victory lap over a jet thats parked in texas and wont touch european soil untill 2030...(maybe)>>64662422even turkey figured it out,but the eu, as usual, was an arrogant smug complacent retard who believed they were somehow "allies, equals even!" despite individually having the industry and economies of sub 3rd world nations
>>64662436Why should we help develop the arms industries of countries who will keep buying US jets?We want to be independent, they want to stay US vassals while taking our R&D gains.
>>64662436>Sell electronic components to Russiaawwwwwwwwwwww hes gunna cry isnt he^>"Refuse to cooperate with others for a EU fighter program"imagine wanting to "cooperate" with those deeply, unimaginably dysfunctional twats who will ALL try to lord some petty aspect of it over the other, untill the program inevitably implodes, because europe hasnt made a clean-sheet fighter jet in 5 decades
