What do you think about the russian army? Seriously>They never fought a high scale war> Always fought against civilians and warfare groups> Only has a good reputation, because of their propaganda> Has never win a seriuos war
>>64664431I think that every country bordering Russia (including the Stans and Mongolia) should increase defense spending because the Kremlin is not a rational actor.
Russia, like most nations, has enjoyed the benefit of not having to stress test their military in a peer war for decades/a century outside of regional conflicts they sought out themselves and had the freedom to disengage from at their own choosing. The United States is the only military at the moment that commits enough of its forces into resource-draining drills, exercises, and deployments as to keep their logistically and operational readiness somewhat primed for the actual chaos of war. As the PLAN extends into blue water more, there is a chance they took will begin the investment of training and overcoming challenges that serve as the foundation of an effective fighting force. Russia is filled with lazy, inept, corrupt, frustrated, sexually frustrated, racially frustrated, economically frustrated man children that are arguably a different species than most western people. They are the laughing stock of the world, and only for the sake of their own low intelligence so they continue to act as belligerents online and in the real world. They are a plague on this Earth, but thankfully they are as impotent as they are ineffective.
Literal zerg armyAll they have is numbers and a complete disregard for human life, including their own.
>>64664431Their stuff is cool even if it is not the best, but their people are human garbage, if they could even be called human.
>>64664431They're on par with African militaries desu. However, even African nations would have pulled out after suffering just shy of 1.2 million casualties in under 4 years
>>64664441This is complete delusion if I have ever seen it. The US military has done nothing but chase camels for the last 30 years. Even before that the last real war the US was in was korea.What the Russians are fighting now, is an army that has every benefit of any european army, basically the whole NATO apparatus behind it, and millions of disposable soldiers. They are also genetically identical to the Ukrainians, so they must be subhuman garbage also. Jesus christ.
>>64664437Thais.Maybe they have the worst tactics.Maybe they don't have the best military equipment (but they still have a lot of it) and they can produce more.All this is offset by endless human resources.And the life of their soldiers is worth nothing.By the way, you are wrong to consider them weak.They can easily deploy 40,000 soldiers on a useless 1 km by 1 km patch of land and not even bat an eyelid.
>>64664444>All they have is numbersGive it time.TZD is a process.More on topic, we all grew up with the idea that the soviet army was something to be feared but gradually realized their equipment was really barely good enough. Russia managed to keep up the appearances with it's latest AA systems, submarines, jets and electronic warefare systems for most of the 90s to well into 2010s. Mostly because these things never had to be used : baring the chechens who were bloody fanatics, Russia managed to win its operations just by showing up and convince everyone that resistance was futile suffering. Still, even back then, the image of the Russian army was one of a horde of bandits with heavy weapons, backed by a limited amount of elite units with top-of-the-line tech. Just enough that a conflict with them would be very costly. Also nukes. So we never bothered to interfere because we thought they were just solving teething issues anyway and would integrate in the International democratic system. Then 2014 rolled in.
the greatest strength of Russians is their ability to completely disengage with reality, allowing them to live in squalor and walk forward into deaththe greatest weakness of Russians is their permanent, universal compulsion to steal and defraud everyone within range at all times
Tactical advantage of this move?https://x.com/fortifiedtaras/status/2002983350550827248
>>64664431literally the imperial guard right down to the commissars.
>>64664483
Their sheer population (More so in the past, to an extent today too though) means they can swallow you up by attrition.They seem to consistently decay and collapse in efficiency yet because of that sheer fucking volume are able to weather enough disasters for something efficient to float to the surface after all other options have exhausted themselves.There's a political cartoon of a Russian bear balancing on a globe meant to be global power with some text or whatever:1950s - nursing a headache from bumping its head1960s - climbing on the ball1970s - is roaring on the ball1980s - falls off the ball1990s - nursing a headache from bumping its head2000s - climbs on the ball2010s - is roaring on the ballIt's so far matching up tempo wise, which is why I feel sorry for the generation coming of age in 2050 who gets to deal with this next time.Interestingly if we walk this back it doesn't quite fit, but it's a little close - 1940s fall off ball, 1930s roar on ball (Soviet rapid industrial advancements), 1920s would be climbing on ball which also fits, but 1910s would then be nursing a headache from falling off the ball in the 1900s. And WW1 and the fall of the Tzar fits 'falling off' much more.Tl;dr we will never be free of the Russian monster. In fact I fear the 2050s Russia because with religious change it might actually be some Islamic Tatar/Chechen regime. You want a nightmare for your grandchildren? Muslim Russia able to have useful idiots from the Muslim minorities in Europe. Have fun.
>>64664474>The US military has done nothing but chase camels for the last 30 years.If you are doing world-wide military operations while getting insulted by the whole planet and no peer comes along to smack some humility into you, that might mean either that your peers agree with what you do or that you actually have no peer.So the US not fighting a war against anyone of note isn't their fault : it's just that nobody is both powerful and criminally insane enough to oppose them in a conventional war.
>>64664481US logistics activity globally trounces literally any potential adversary by orders of magnitude. But more importantly:>Russia is fighting a nation of genetically identical subhumans (yes they too are troglodytes)>these guys are given a ton of hand-me-downs from NATO>Russians dying daily, Russian ships being blown up, Russian planes being blown up, Russian AWACS an endangered species, Russian subs being sunkYou’re impotent seething has made my day. You think I care about Ukrainians? Just typing this out I’m smiling about how many diseased, lice-riddles Russians have died for some Ukrainian mud lol.
>>64664504>Their sheer population (More so in the past, to an extent today too though) means they can swallow you up by attrition.This logic works against small stans and other barely populated shitholes.Even then, the most they did before 2014 was to take a few bites and even so, they did so proping up proxies that never created an actual state.Then they took Crimea and people concluded that, no, they were not in fact learning how to be a western democracy so they were a problem but maybe a problem too powerful militarily to be adressed directly.Then they tried to "swallow" Ukraine in 2022 and it completely failed, dispelling any doubt about them being just bullies with a large but largely finite inventory.Russia today is neither the Russian Empire nor is it the USSR. It doesn't have a huge population, it doesn't have a high natality, it doesn't have the largest army and it isn't "good enough" on equipment quality to just overwhelm problems with numbers and not compromise its long-term capabilities. Even a victory in Ukraine would let it si weaken it might give ideas to old rivals.
>>64664431All shit posting aside. Genuine dogshit on every level. They had a small number of relatively competent/motivated forces but they were expended literal weeks into the four year+ current conflict. The only truly unique thing I'd attach to Russia is the complete lack of human life. I don't even think the CCP could stomach these losses in current year. Chinese (especially first tier) aren't the bugs of old.
>>64664504>You want a nightmare for your grandchildren? Muslim Russia able to have useful idiots from the Muslim minorities in Europe. Have fun.Some will argue that a muslim Russia would be easier to deal with.Look at the actual relationship the West has with muslim countries. Except for Iran and a few extremist groups larping to be Cobra/Nod/GLA, we are in a long-term partnership with them. Secular arab leaders have been more of a problem because they always needed to posture as anti-imperialist heroes then as ultranationalist conquerors.A muslim Russia would probably be happy to just be Eltsine/early Putin, cashing on raw material export while providing endless cheap labor, if we ever needs it.
Easily assassinated
I admire the russian army for being very able to recover from losses and not collapse. Many lesser armies would either have quit or collapsed by this point.
>>64664546You view Islam as a moderating influence on the Russian thinking, I see Russian thinking as using Islam as a catalyst to increase its irredentist/imperial chauvenistic kind of faggotry. Russian thinking is distinctly not Western, and almost medieval. I used to think that kind of thinking was not simply racist but also dumb, this idea of the inscrutable oriental. But we've all that a bit of a bitter lesson in how those prejudiced thinkings had a lot of truth to them of late. Theoretically that thinking can be overcome the way that we have more conventional Western style states in the Muslim world - but do we really? Yes and no, it feels like. You can think about how places like the dreaded Indians, or Japan or Korea ostensibly have Western trappings but their way of thinking and behaving is very alien to ours. For the Japanese it's benign, for the Koreans its benign for us, for india it's agony. For Russia it's an existential threat and Islam would just offer another vector to do it the same way Orthodoxy or Communism or faux-traditionalism for Putin is being used. Fundamentally they believe they are masters of Eastern Europe, fundamentally that imperial grandiose delusions won't end any more than America's racial angst or British class angst or French rebelliousness will go away. It's baked into the Russian DNA to want to be the brutal boss.>>64664531Right, I was thinking to how Russia is what, 130 million or so now? And growing older and greyer. My hope is that it is committing a long and drawn out suicide and it will just return to being a rusty snowy gas station but I am more pessimistic than I am optimistic.
>>64664504>2050With what they're doing to their demographics now, their 2050 chimpout is probably going to be small enough that it will be shut down by a few mongols piloting FPVs from horseback
>>64664474dima pls
>>64664431>What do you think about the russian army?Absolute Africa-tier joke military where the people are incompetent, unmotivated and totally corrupt and all the hardware is outdated, broken or stolen and sold for scrap.The only strategic advantage they have is that the siloviks in charge of the country genuinely do not care if their own people die, which is something all western minitaries are terminally afraid of. The main reason Ukraine hasn't been decisively won already is that Nato is too cowardly to commit to it and admit that yes, we actually are in the middle of World War Three right now and we should start doing something about it.>what about the nukes?I doubt even ten of them actually work. Russia's nuclear threat is a bullshit threat at this point.
>>64664437This post is INCREDIBLY Russiaphobic, please delete it now. It's not poor Russia's fault that Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, Chechnya again lmao, and the Ukraine all bullied them into having to defend themselves across their borders.
>>64664431it's a massive fall from the little green men I remember back in college. However they haven't had the horrible collapse the imperial army did back in world war 1 despite how atrocious this war has gone. I have no idea how a country like the USA would stomach this shit since vietnam pales in comparison and the USA lost because public support fell off a cliff and the USA lost only ~60k. It's also crazy that Russia blew it so hard at the beginning. Those columns caught by ukrainian arty and the huge traffic jam at kiev were just disastrous.
>>64664536Their demographics are even worse, they actually need to kill off a few million dudes.
>>64664474>the last real war the US was in was koreawhat were the two (count 'em) back-to-back invasions of Iraq, in which the U.S. delivered an army halfway around the world to flawlessly shitstomp an army that had more Soviet kit and soldiers than Russia currently does in Ukraine>an army that has every benefit of any european army, basically the whole NATO apparatus behind itis NATO in the room with us right now? I only see some shitty cold war hand-me-downs being delivered (late, and in smaller numbers than promised), with no commitment of NATO troops>millions of disposable soldiersprojection from zigger filth, I don't see Ukies sending their men in wave after wave to get stacked five feet high and used for sandbags like the Russians>genetically identical to the Ukrainians, so they must be subhuman garbage alsoNorth Koreans are genetically identical to South Koreans, but one nation is an open-air gulag which is a literal dark splotch on the planet that can be seen from space at night, and the other is one of the richest and most comfortable nations on earthkys zigger
>>64664504>Their sheer population (More so in the past, to an extent today too though) means they can swallow you up by attrition.Them starting to import a million of jeets proves that to be a lie
>>64664431Zombie armyliterally
>>64664531>Then they tried to "swallow" Ukraine in 2022 and it completely failed, dispelling any doubt about them being just bullies with a large but largely finite inventory.More of a reason to attack the Baltics: nowhere to retreat, no one to fight back.
>>64664588>For Russia it's an existential threat and Islam would just offer another vector to do it the same way Orthodoxy or Communism or faux-traditionalism for Putin is being used. Fundamentally they believe they are masters of Eastern Europe, fundamentally that imperial grandiose delusions won't end any more than America's racial angst or British class angst or French rebelliousness will go away. It's baked into the Russian DNA to want to be the brutal boss.Reminds me of something George Kennan wrote
>>64664431better than the bong military by leaps and bounds, but /k/edditors are anglo toe lickers, so they will never admit this.
>>64664431No more wars.
>>64664431They're an anathema in the 21st century. They fight like a medieval peasant military and think advancing five yards in a huge land war against their impoverished neighbour is somehow a great success. They're so ass backwards, you can basically invent a time machine, hand Henry V assault rifles and drones, and he'd do a better job beating Ukraine than russia ever could.My favorite part are the constant pissing contests betwren officers, branches and even letter agencies in Russia. Priggy's march was the most public one but getting rid of Popov probably lost russia the victory. Still amazing how they hang on, despite how pointless this all is. No fucking idea what happens once Putin bites it.>>64664437Your rusphobia and opposition to the multipolar order has been noted.
>>64664431Hyped up by brownoids into delusion, leading to them gradually tzd'ing themselvesIn turn brownoids get invited to mass migrate into snow Nigeria to fill the population vacuum due to perceived support and loyalty.Now the brownoids have free rein to breed the (allegedly) white women left behind.Pretty based of the brownoids, if this was the plan all along.
>>64664431Forget their army. They just won the entire american administration.
>>64664713I get a lot of jew vibes from modern indians in that everyone seems in on the plan from the bottom nobodies to the top rung. For jews it's control of the goyim, but for jeets its putting millions of indians in every country to attempt demographic takeover. There are only ever fighting age males being sent anywhere as 'refugees'.
>>64664696they don't make statesmen like Kennan anymorehe's probably rolling in his fucking grave looking at the shitshow going on right now
>>64664719What compelled Dolan to appoint her? All agencies seem to try to tell her anything, as she just runs her mouth like a whore with 50 dicks up her ass.
>>64664751>What compelled Dolan to appoint her?same thing that compels him to make everything else as easy as possible for America's enemies: he's a fucking traitor who is easily bribed
>>64664710>Still amazing how they hang on, despite how pointless this all is. No fucking idea what happens once Putin bites it.not only that but the kremlin manlet is planning on opening a second special military disaster in the baltics too in the very near future. Agent orange really gave them a YUGE confidence boost despite the stalemate in Ukraine
>>64664736Kennan was strongly opposed to letting east euros into NATO during the 90s. As he thought they should be left as sacrificial buffers to not provoke le scary bear he was another cold war era geriatric still stuck with the propaganda version of pozzia that only ever existed in their heads
First of, Russian Army is conscript based which will ultimately have a very variety of quality which has shown during the war. Secondly, its is massive and very underfunded to its size and they have made some changes since the fall but most equipment is since soviets time. Thirdly, the army just as any other area in the Russian society, its fucking corrupt as shit. That is why they fight like third world country. Fourth, their propaganda has done far more harm than good. They have some competent sections but unfortunately there is lots of stupid higher ups that take advantage of through corruption so they can enjoy a good life with their wives in Moscow and still fuck their mistress in Sochi. They only care about the numbers in their bank account and hate the grunt that dies in the trenches.
>>64664431Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey ain't got nothing on this clownshow. Truly, The Greatest Show on Earth™!>>64664444>All they have is numbers and a complete disregard for human life, including their own.Especially their own!
>>64664504>because of that sheer fucking volumethey have less meat then bangladesh. Only place pozzia looks big is on the map with the empty siberian wasteland
>>64664504>2050s Russia because with religious change it might actually be some Islamic Tatar/Chechen regime.On one hand, that would be just desserts for centuries of Russian oppression of Circassians and Chechens. On the other hand, there's everything else you just said.>>64664546Hell, becoming an Islamic theocracy would be genuine improvement because Russia will finally have actual rule of (Sharia) law, rather than rule of the strongest rapist.
>>64664719>2011, Microsoft buys Nokia for zero billion dollars by installing Elop into the Nokia's CEO role>2024, Russia defeats the US without firing a single shot by installing retards into the US administration
>>64664796it was ultimately up to the voters who gave a shit that decided that. Including team donkey that could not find a decent and normal candidate with an appealing message to save their lives americans want to try out temu putinism and that is exactly what is being delivered
>>64664814Republicucks also chose the pedo during primaries, so...
>>64664431I'm a professional Russia hater but this post is retarded bait.
>>64664709once total zigger death is achieved, sure.
>>64664431It effectively no longer exists: what you're seeing deployed are people pulled off the street to man the vacated positions of annihilated units.
>>64664441> peer warWhen was the last time the US fought a nuclear power with aircraft carrier projection?Never. Just bullying third world countries to appear tough.
>>64664633> Russia's nuclear threat is a bullshit threat at this pointI wish Putin would use even a single one in Lithuania or something so NATO could legally nuke the kremlin monke.Give him the Nagasaki treatment. So many western lives could be spared that way.
>>64664431Shit fighting force, great literary inspiration. I'm really hyped for the inevitable spiritual sequel>Another Soldier's War in Ukraine: Electric Bogaloo
>>64664766Much as I agree that Tsar Manlet is an irrational actor, they're gonna invade the Baltics with what exactly? Mobiks on horseback? They also aren't going to have surprise on their side this time either. Ukraine was warned beforehand by western glowies and refused to believe it despite the massive build-up on their border. Nowadays everyone would know what such a build-up means and glowies would also know of it weeks in advance. A smaller target like the baltic countries that don't have the flat endless steppes of Ukraine, but rather swamps and other points which they could be funneled into, would make their current attrition in Ukraine look like a joke. Putin would need to throw like a million mobiks at each country at the same time in the span of a single day without any sort of preparation in the field whatsoever. Which is just going to end up as another Kyiv traffic-jam, but this time with complete NATO air superiority. It would all end in another highway of death. Then again, Putin is being told by his sycophants that all is going according to plan, so who the fuck knows.
>>64664950The war with the baltics and it's occupation is something annoying to deal with for EU states. As cucked as many are, blatant aggression in form of an invasion by Russia would just be a trigger to full blown war. I seriously doubt Putin would be this blatant, but who knows. The banana manlet thinks he is currently winning, the west is weak and gay and his cronies in Hungary, slovakia and czeched.com will surely back him if he decides to act.So expect some more greyzone ops before 2027 and some little green men in 2027 in the baltics. I could also be wrong of course, we see months long buildup of sturmladas in belarus and then a pointless attack that goes nowhere.
>>64664431If it weren't for the officers they might manage a peasant horde.All their shit was future export market. So it's not like any version had a chance.
>>64664474Russians are NOT genetically identical to Ukrainians, stop right there.Post-SU Russia rotted and smeared itself in shit. Ukraine tried to dust off and join international agreements.That's a difference.
Just stopping by to note that we now have mainstream confirmation that another russian general did indeed get schwacked earlier, this time via car bomb
>>64664957"little green men' don't work anymore. Any actor with guns and no identification will be shot on sight
>>64664719people saying in 2016 that the US presidential election was affected by Russia make a lot more sense now
>>64664550>sell your soul to King Monke>still drive a Kiagrim
>>64664519>a nation of genetically identical subhumansthis is exactly where you are wrong
>>64664474>chest-thumping status: gone
>>64664645westoids are pussies and cry about muh poor chilluns being blown up, if it wasn't for the hippie traitors back home the Vietnam war could have been won without the gay rules of engagement. NG at Kent State did nothing wrong
>>64664550>drive KIA>get KIA'd
>>64664709Never in a million fucking years will any neighbor of Russia look at it with anything but disgust.
>>64665013EVERY AMERICAN ELECTION SINCE WWI HAS FUCKING BEEN AFFECTED BY RUSSIA THIS IS NOT PROPHETIC
>>64664950Nah, baltics manpower is so low Russia may consider it enough to attempt an invasion with reserves they have. Swamp won't defend you much when you have like 1 to 12 soldier ratio. Also people tend to forget (cause it gets negated by equally huge Ukrainian drone fleet) that Russia has formidable drone fleet now. What will default Estonians do against few thousands birds suddenly flying in and focusing on one specific segment of defense lines? And then another wave. And another. This would be shitshow.
>>64665042NATO would air strike targets inside Russia because launching drone attacks at NATO nations is an act of war
>>64665046The current US administration would never allow it.
>>64665063orange retard has no say what Sweden and Finland do
>>64664698>unprompted seething at perfidious Anglo-SaxonsCalm down, Vanya.
>>64665067So it's just Europe against Russia. A very different thing.
>>64665042May we see this 1:12 soldier ratio, comrade?
>>64665042There are EU and US units in Estonia, I don't think Russia would be able to invade without engaging with them and that's out of the question
>>64665089Brotherman, Estonia has a population of 1.3mil
>>64665094>US units in EstoniaOh, thank God, so there will be someone to throw the red carpet before the invading russians.
>>64665096Is that so. They have an army incl. reservists of around 50.000. plus NATO troops inside their country, plus NATO air support from all over Europe. Lake NATO is closed. Bunkers, mine fields, all kind of means of denial being built along the border. From where is the russian army going to take half a million solders to deploy into Estonia, while being bogged down in Ukraine?
>>64664783>that mapThird world populations are a lie.
>>64665042>like 1 to 12 soldier ratioA westenr soldier can comfortably fight at a 1 to 230 ratio agianst garbage like the "Russian" "Army".>Russia has formidable drone fleet now"Formidable" at what, bombing random residential areas?>What will default Estonians do against few thousands birds suddenly flying in and focusing on one specific segment of defense lines?Intercept the overwhelming majority with ECM and air defenses, and watch the rest miss. Then phone NATO and watch the "Russian" "Army" get annihilated wholesale from the air over the course of the next week.>>64665063The current US administration is impotent and irrelevant, and so is wether they "allow" it.>>64665084>A very different thingYes. It means nobody will be arguing for leniency after the one-sided wholesale annihilation of the "Russian" "Army".
According to /k/, Russia exists in a perpetual Schrödinger's state where it's simultaneously a third world shithole that's incapable of anything and a major threat to the whole world.
>>64665042>What will default Estonians do against few thousands birds suddenly flying in and focusing on one specific segment of defense lines? And then another wave. And another.So they'll use something less effective than artillery? Drones are novel, sure, but dont act like they're as effective fucking HIMARSing "one specific segment of defense lines".
>>64664693>no one to fight backThat was true before 2004, when those three weren't part of NATO.It was still a possibility before 2014, when NATO still entertained the idea that Russia could be integrated.It is clearly not an option after 2024 : we are now certain that Russia won't be an ally and even less so a member of either NATO or EU. So we aren't letting it gobble existing members of either.
>>64665167That is not a contradiction
>>64665042Estonia has 200 ATACMS missiles and more than 5000 GLMRS. Just launch those, then wait for the cavalry.
>>64665167russian manic depression dualism
>>64665167You can be incapable of anything but if you throw enough feces at others you'll still do damage. Also other countries are not as eager to throw their lives away for a sack of potatoes.You are essentially voicing confusion that others find suicide bombers scary but don't respect them. The contradiction you imply doesn't exist.Russia isn't going to take any European country, but they'd obviously be willing to throw a few million Russians into the meatgrinder just for the lulz and to try.
>>64665167One can be an idiot and still be a threat to others.It's not because you cannot succeed at what you try to achieve that you won't make life miserable for those around you.Russia has the means and the will to be dangerous mainly because it cares very little about preserving itself and its people, convince as the Kremlin is that they'll win and it will be worth it.
>>64665042Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, the other Baltics and Poland, would do what they could to assist without even waiting for the Article 5 conference to commence.That would be the end of the Russian Airforce and anything Russian floating in the Baltic Sea, North Sea and the GIUK gap.
I read about their terrible leadership in WW2 and thought they must have learned from it. They didn't. Everything is still as corrupt and incompetent.
>>64665214Brussels/Berlin already showed it was ready to commit a lot to defend Ukraine, which is a shithole so far from meeting EU criterias it wasn't even considered a short-term goal before 2022 happened. Should the baltic states be attacked, the whole rethoric about tackling Russia in Ukraine not being worth the cost would collapse.This would also do marvel to unify Europe like it hasn't been done since 80 years, except there would be no doubts about us being the "good guys" this time.
>>64665230Berlin will be 3 or 30 days too late. They always are. Did they ever give Taurus, or are they still yapping with the Ostalgiker and Putinversteher in the Reichstag?
>>64665032should've bought nokia
>>64664971>>64665083
>>64665167> "why are millions of low tech, HIV infested retards willing to run straight into machine gun fire dangerous I don't understand"
>>64665248We are currently wrestling with traitors from both the far left and the far right.Both AfD and Linke want to sell this country to the russians and rally against us improving our military. They are also both against us helping Ukraine.Though tbf the Taurus shit makes me angry too but SPD and CDU mostly just lack any backbone it's frustrating to watch.
>>64664709This is the same level of delusion that Indian men posses about how white women view them.
>>64665167It's the global version of a violent homeless encampment leaving dirty needles all over the neighborhood sidewalks
>>64665214>>64665230this can only happen if the balts prep appropriately for the incoming invasion (pre emptive mobilization) and intercept them 2022 style. Their huge advantage is that pretty much everybody is underestimating them, triple so for muscovites with their imperial arrogance. So they will be driving in unsecured convoys like nothing has been learned straight into the ambushes. Expecting to have an easy, two weeks march to tallinn/riga/vilnius Only if balts show ukranian style resilience will poland and finland interfere with their air force to shoot down vatniks in their air space and near it. Otherwise the temptation to sit behind your borders and dig in is too great. The narrative would also shift from >why die for Riga?to>better to keep the war in the balts and ukraine then our home one thing is for sure though. As long as monke breaths only three things are certain>war>war>and more war
>>64665042>Nah, baltics manpower is so low Russia may consider it enough to attempt an invasion with reserves they have.sauce: wiki page listing for standing army that only show peace time cadre looking forward to the next special military disaster
>>64665334Russia would of course stomp them in 3 days or less
>>64665282I hear you bruder. Geduld. The traitors will probably be curtailed>>64665323Correct. I have also overlooked the tripwire troops. Russia can not actually invade Estonia without killing other NATO troops. There are even Americans in Estonia, but I have an inkling Trump might pull them back just in case.