Which caliber is better? Does the shorter length of the .308 while being mostly the same ballisticly make it better, or does the slightly longer length and ability to use heavier grain bullets of the 30-06 make it better?Or is 30-06 better because it sounds cooler and is an American classic?
>>64664630308 is cheaper, so it wins
>>64664630.308 has the same ballistics and can fit in a short action.
>>64664630>because it sounds cooler and is an American classic?>implying thirty cal isn't
>>64664630.308 is cooler because it makes me feel like a NATO operator with 7.62mm.
>>6466463030-06 is superior, even compared to 6.5 crymore
A 308 case loaded to the OAL of a 30-06 would be one of the moggiest long range cartridges. Maybe it should be a thing. You’d just have to stick a 308 barrel in a gun that can accept 30-06 sized mags. Berger sorta did this with a 308 loaded to about 3” COAL. Picrel. It’s a 200gr bullet IIRC
>he's not exclusively shooting .300 PRCNGMIKilled in da streetz
>>64664630Back when the powder was less effective they were the same, loading modern powder into .30-06 turns it into the bottom rung of magnum rounds
you just like saying 'thirty aught six'. hell you probly dont own a gun chambered in either caliber.
>>64665420>bottom rung of magnumsLmao no, not even a little bit
>>64665378I load 220's in my .308. granted those are sub loads so I can sink the bullet deeper than you might normally. 200 wouldn't be that difficult to do with AW or even AICS mags
>>64664630.308 is an excellent do-all for medium-big game int he Western hemisphere. As long as you use the proper bullet/loading for whatever game you're hunting and you know the limits of the specific bullet you're using in terms of expansion threshold, you can do it all with .308. Where 30-06 really shines these days is with handloads. You can handload 30-06 to middling .300 Win Mag levels, which really just extends your range. Gun to my head if I'm picking one or the other to be limited to for the rest of my life I'd go .308 just because I'm in the Eastern US and standard 150gr soft point .308 will do everything I'll ever need it to do here (hogs, coyotes, deer, bear, armadillos) and when I eventually go out West with my buddy to do an elk hunt, 180gr .308 will do absolutely fine out to like 350yd. If I lived out West I'd pick the 30-06
>>64665450I'd trust a 30-06 to kill a moose, it would be dicey with lighter weights but it should work
>>64665450Look into it numbnuts>>64665474There were a couple Alaska and Canada anons in a hunting thread about a month ago who posted pics of Moose they killed with .308. I remember a Norway anon who's posted quite a bit about how 6.5swede is the standard moose cartridge out there. As long as you know your projectile's limits and your rifle's zero, caliber is a tertiary concern. So yeah, 30-06 is a great moose round. Hell, the record for the largest moose taken in Canada was taken with a .303, which is generally not loaded quite as hot as 30-06
>>64665146agree with this, except 6.5 Swede has been around as long as .30-06 and is only slightly less powerful/effective at long range7mm-08 is better than .308 or 6.5 Creedmoorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0cr1PubV6o
>>64665495I did just to be sure I wasn't halucinating, but I've reloaded both for years too. While it's subjective to suggest what the bottom rung of anything would be, you're still at a much lower pressure than, say, .300 winmag and significantly slower. And that's comparing handloaded 30-06 to factory .300 winmag.
>>64665495>numbnutsDo people still say this
>>64665576Fair enough>>64665596All the time
>>6466463030-06 better for 180 and heavier bullets. More case capacity. 308 only matched 30-06 at 150 grain and modern powders help it keep up with slightly heavier. I shoot both
>>64665966You did the little blighter dirty nabbing him in the middle of lunch
>>64665466Basically this. >>64665474I have found Moose to be kinda wimpy compared to Elk unless its a bull in the rut. .30 cal just kills different than 7, 6.8, 6.5 >go white tail hunting with father in law>he has newfangled springfield waypoint in 6.5creed rifle using 129 grain Hornady SST, I brought my trusty 2003 Sako 75 in .308 using 165 grain Hornady SST>he shoots doe in the lungs, doe runs 40 yards. We come up on it 30 min later. it’s still breathing and looking at us. We dispatch it quickly.>when cleaning it the bullet did some damage and had decent expansion based on the exit wound being about thumb-sized, but heart and lungs mostly in tact.>Next evening at dusk, I get a doe, shot it in practically the same spot, a little high for the heart. DRT. When cleaning it when we get past the diaphragm the whole chest cavity is soup. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, .30 cal+ just kills different. .300wm drops elk and moose the way 7mm rem mag or 7mm prc just doesn’t.
