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If this is the serious thread:What feeder MOS's are the best for becoming Warrant Officer in the Army?Are Warrant Officers more likely than Officers to make it 20 years? I heard Officers could get let go whenever senior staff wants to let them go.
>>64666675Yes this is the serious thread
If I'm not a pilot would AF still let me use the simulator
>>64666675IIRC, you can just go into the Army as a warrant officer through their helicopter program.
>>64666711OK, wanna give me an answer then, fuckhead?
>>64666675Here's the full feeder MOS list:https://recruiting.army.mil/ISO/AWOR/ARMY_FEEDER/Note that even combat arms can apply to become a technical warrant (131A). I wouldn't say there's a "best" MOS, as each branch is different, but anything that has you working in close contact with other warrant officers, performing technical duties, and displaying competence in your MOS will be better for the tech warrant side of the house. Flight warrant applicants who are already serving sometimes have issues getting a letter of recommendation from a warrant, especially if they don't serve with very many warrant officers in their assigned unit, but don't let that dissuade you.Warrants typically make it to 20 because they're typically past the grade at which they may retire when they hit 20 years. Afaik they can retire at CW2, which is practically an automatic promotion, and most are already at 8-10 years' service by the time they put on the dot.Commissioned officers (except prior enlisted) must either get SELCON or be selected for promotion to O-5 to retire. This is one of the causes of stress for the O-4 population, as they must get good evals and become promotable for their career to have been worth it. It's more rare these days but there is a real risk of getting shown the door at 18 years if you aren't competitive enough at that time.
>>64666740Are you saying prior enlisted are tenured in? (For lack of a better term)
Is a previous suicide attempt / hospitalization going to prevent me from becoming a pilot?
Hey, /Meg/. Hope all is well, and your Christmas season is going splendidly. As most of you know, I've officially been out for just about a year and just wanted to say how great life has been post military, and will be here for a little bit to help with people that have questions about better options than the military, and for those getting out what some of their options are. The military isn't very good at telling you all thats available to you while you're in, and TAP isn't much help either.
>>64666761Hi Roberto
>>64666733Say that's true, is it pilot, crewmember, what role?How decent is that job and how much of your time is spent flying VS whatever BS they make you do?>>64666740>anything that has you working in close contact with other warrant officersThere's not a lot of WOs out there, right? How many WOs are there in small bases like Hawaii? Probably not many right? Intel even less so I would think.>It's more rare these days but there is a real risk of getting shown the door at 18 years if you aren't competitive enough at that time.Honestly sounds rough. I would hate to be denied pension after 18 years time in service.
>>64666756Not exactly, but they have an advantage and a disadvantage. You need 10 years as an officer to retire as an officer if you commission from enlisted. Meaning, if you commission at E-6 and do 8 years to hit your 20, you will (afaik) retire as an E-6, even if you hit CPT or MAJ at that point. On the flip side, this means you don't have to deal with the nonsense rat race of making it to O-5 Select before 20 in order to retire, and can happily chill out as a MAJ or senior CPT rather than being forced to suck off your senior rater for an MQ. Additionally, from O-1 to O-3, a prior enlisted service member with at least 4 years' time in service gets O-1E to O-3E pay, which is a fair bit higher than what a standard commissioned officer would make at those grades. What this means for you is that you need to crunch the numbers to determine if and when commissioning would be worth it, and especially consider the type of retirement plan you're on.
How can I prevent moral injury as a drone operator?
>>64666768The Army flight warrant program (WOFT) is specifically for pilots. A quick google search could have told you so. Do note that after finishing the 2-year training pipeline, you incur a 10 year active duty service obligation (ADSO).The concentration of warrants depends on your unit. An infantry battalion might have a handful, but some MI, signal, or cyber units have shit tons and you might work with them every day.
>>64666764My name isn't robert, though? Post your dd214?
>>64666761Post ocp top doormat or it isnt 92gfag.
>>64666768You'd be a pilot and all you do is fly. The downside is that you're in the Army (fucking terrible), and have to deal with their shitty, toxic officer corp and other army-esqe bullshit. But there really is no other branch that lets you fly as easily as the Army but I always recommend to anyone that wants to fly to look into Naval Aviation.>>64666772I know this is supposed to be a troll response, but this is legitimately something that people who want to be drone pilots should think about. Those guys have body counts higher than some inner-city gangs combined.
Anyone have experience with the ROTC to TACPO pipeline? Is Angelo State a good school?
>>64666778Do you think QOL for Pilot WOs is better than QOL for Intel WOs?Should I even be thinking about WO yet if I'm not in and haven't done my job?
>>64666790The only winning move is not to play.
>>64666800>Robert shamelessly re-using the same image again>Pointless time wasting question designed for him to respond to himself with later
>>64666761That is not what a dd214 looks like. You deadass printed a copy of a picture you found online. Why the hell are you pretending to be a veteran when you spend every day of your life ragging on anyone that served?
>>64666817And he's specifically asking about Angelo State because he thinks his arch-nemesis is from the Texas National Guard
>>64666761>I've officially been out for just about a yearThat page you printed out says 2009.Thats not a DD214.Try again Robert.
>>64666822It's almost like someone wouldn't keep the original in a place they can easily acces it and it potentially being damaged or lost and would just keep a copy for quick reference. You should show yours. So we can see what one looks like :^)
What's a DD214?
>>64666835>doesnt know how military paperwork works. >doesnt know thats the date that became the new standard of the form>doesn't know how to check armypubs to see what the forms look like.
>>64666840NTA but this is a hilarious attempt to use someone else's DD-214 and edit it so you can be a fake ass bitch more realistically. lmao
>>64666845Robert likes to accuse everyone of being Robert.
>>64666840>>64666844>>64666845Dear Robert,It's really obvious when you're spamming because you have 5 different LARPs going on at one time. When one of your LARPs stops posting, another LARP begins until someone finally takes the bait.This is not how you stop new applicants asking questions from joining the military, this is how you turn them into Redditors.
>>64666844It's a paper none of the recruiters in this thread actually have. The only people that encourage military service are neverserveds.
>>64666859Neverserved here; I thought all recrooters were in the military.
>>64666859>>64666872Its also not a paper you have, Robert.You have a BCD because you threatened to murder women and children.Get fucked.
>>64666856>stop applicants from asking questions Literally the secound anyone says anything that isn't licking the balls of the military the recruiters get mad and start saying everyone is robert. It's pretty funny that this is the state of /meg/ its basically r/army.
>>64666840DD214 is issue when you LEAVE the military, not when you JOIN it. I don't have one, and when I do cash out, mine won't say Bad Conduct Discharge
>>64666872Recruiters are all in the military, he is just being retarded because he has no idea what he is talking about.
>>64666872Theyre probably on some detail like the army psyop girl was. It's their job to con people into the military.
>>64666875The last thread felt primarily Navy and Coast Guard, but feel free to gripe about the branch you got kicked out of
>>64666875I have never seen anyone actively recruit on /meg/.
>>64666875My post was addressed to Robert and you responded so you must be Robert.Do you think you're undercover when you spam here or something?
>>64666876Mine isn't either :^)
>>64666896Just reverse image searched. You stole this image.Good try, Robert.
>>64666875>the secoundDid you mean "second" you illiterate fuck?
Idk manI think these guys are working for the feds...
>>64666911And then this faggot thinks he is going to convince anyone to post their DD214 so that Robert can larp as them too. 92G fucking HATED Robert and he would be pissed to see Robert trying to steal his thunder. 92G is the representation of what /meg/ is trying to prevent, and its almost suspicious that Robert always gets in the way of good advice but doesn't seem to actually impact recruiting numbers...
This picture perfectly describes the recruiters in this thread when someone has an opinion contrary to what the military makes them think.
>>64666883That makes sense.
>>64666923I just realized 92G has already finished his enlistment and Robert is still fucking here.
>>64666928What does 92G mean?
Where do i go to get into a propaganda unit?
>>64666923I don't know the full Robert story. Truthfully though, anyone that would want to harm innocent people in a war a stupid as iraq is probably someone I wouldn't want to be associated with. I am happy to say that I have talked several younger dudes at work, and many family members out of joining, and coached them into much better prospects. With that said, I dont know how much /meg/ can really help someone. When you're in the military you cant reallt control much of anything. You're at the mercy of your leadership. If you have shit leadership there isnt a whole lot any amount of anything can do.
>>6466692892g got out a long time ago. He pops in every once in while and everyone accuses him of being robert. Glad to see he's doing well.
>>64666925Wishful thinking from a loser>guys I am totally winning! After 6 years, I will finally defeat /meg/ with my sick trolling skills!
>>64666876Post LES then.
>>64666948>Robert pretending not to be Robert againI have to get the fucking list out I see.Getting really tired of the typical Robert LARPs:>I was in but [insert crazy shit here]>I knew a guy who knew a guy...>I served (wont show proof)>Pretending to be Ukranian foreign legion recruiter>Pretending he isnt Robert>Pretending Robert doesnt exist>Pretending to know insider knowledge>Thread bake hijackingThreadly addition to the list:>Pretending other people are Robert
>>6466695292G does not pop in. He took the advice to put his bad service behind him and he did. Robert instead decided he needed to rage and foam at the mouth because he got kicked out WHEN OBAMA WAS THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF
>>64666954Youre right. You should light yourself on fire when someone doesnt worship the military your so vehemently defend.
>>64666957Post a gun
>>6466696092g literally posted >>64666761
>>64666964If you want me dead, come kill me yourself, pussy boy. Otherwise, keep paying your taxes like a shabbos goy. Thanks for the extra $1776 that just hit my bank account
>>64666972But I'm a NEET
>>64666970Nobody believes you. 92G would suckerpunch you for your shitty behavior. He actually suffered, unlike you
>>64666970No one cares. Post your next LARP, I'm ready.Or do you want to start talking to yourself again?
>>64666802Idk, there are many different WOMOS and units out there. Overall QOL is higher for warrants across the board though.If you're thinking about becoming a pilot, think about it now, since you can come in off the street and apply for WOFT. If you're thinking about tech warrant, keep it in the back of your head until you're 6-9 years into your career.
>>64666802>>64666985Stop making up acronyms
>>64666966Ok?
>>64667003Yep, I recognize that shitty cheapass 1911. Thank you for confirming Robert
>>64666985>If you're thinking about tech warrant, keep it in the back of your head until you're 6-9 years into your career.I'm going in as 35T with a 5 year contract and nearly 1 year will be spent in training so I'm anticipating a serious commitment here, I figure why not consider making a career out of the military if its possible for me.Maybe I'll get to my first unit and change my mind but I hope not.I know an intel analyst guy who got out and did contract work, he was making alot but could no longer do his analyst stuff for one reason or another. That could be me (contract work) if I get out after my service but I'm just weighing all the options until the time comes.
>>64667008Seriously though why does a vet with a dishonorable discharge who threatened to do a mass shooting have access to firearms?I feel like several institutions have failed us all for him to still have his rights.
>>64666985>If you're thinking about tech warrant, keep it in the back of your head until you're 6-9 years into your career.Wouldnt that be too late according to >>64666769
>>64667008Different gun, different handwriting
>>64667008That's a rock island 1911. Bottom of the barrel 1911. Still an upgrade compared to the one robert had.
So be honest, it won't hurt my feelings. I'm a quiet NEET that generally doesn't like people. I am however quite physically active. 27, so I'm probably running out of time if I were to enlist. Is the military even an option? I've wondered if I'm a little autistic at times, but that could just be some self esteem issues. I would just hate to somehow fail to adapt.
>>64667039No, those figures were for commissioned, not warrant, officers. The limit for warrants is that you can't have more than 12 years' active federal service (AFS) when you apply (waiverable, but waivers are hit or miss as far as whether the board accepts them or not). >>64667021Definitely get a feel for the MOS before thinking about warrant, since a 35T warrant will basically just be doing what you will be doing but on steroids. >>64667058Why are you considering the military? What tangible goals do you have which it would help you accomplish? Have you thought about a branch or specific job in the military, or are you just considering it in general? I strongly recommend thinking through these questions and having at least a partial plan before showing up at a recruiter's office and getting taken for a ride.
>>64667058No!Next LARP.Come up with something better robert.
>>64667008Your right. A nicer, more expensive firearm, perhaps? My wife got me that rock island as a gift before I left for korea. It's more fun to shoot than just anout any other pistol I have.
>>64667063I kinda want to change before I'm a total loser for life. Maybe this sounds retarded but if I don't get some kind of forced socialization I feel like I'm never going to launch. Unsure of job, but either Army, AF or maybe even the Coast Guard but the CG seems very selective so unlikely. Navy doesn't interest me remotely. Marines don't have much to offer.
/meg/ reminder that the Army is the lamest branch in the US Military and you should not join it under any circumstance.Unless, of course, you go 19C or 19K. ARMOR > ALL
>>64667095this poster is enrolled in the ABCP
>>64667090Go Air Force you'll love it.Bunch of ex-NEET fags and anti social fags just like you there.Higher autonomy than the army.Definitely dont knock the CG either if you are truly looking for adventure and a decent social life.
>>64667008Not even remotely the same gun. Robert's was a commander length I think. 92g's looks like a long slide.
>>64667040That's Peoriafag, not Robert
This thread is confusing. What is going on? Is robert and 92gfag the same thing? Are there actually recruiters in here?
>>64667286>Robert comes back after his dinner to ask more time wasting questionsFeeling full buddy?
>>64667292>everyone is robert
>>64667079>a cheap ass shit 1911>fun
>>64666972Military people are idiots. That money came from the tariffs. Thank china for it.
>>64666873Robert would have a dd214 if he left the military. Even if he got kicked out... you're bad at this, recruiter.
This day-long melty from Robert just proves that he is only here for attentionwhoring, and when nobody talks to him, he just talks to himself. Sad!
Gettin real desperate lmao
Deffo reminds me of a child causing a scene in the middle of a room and giggling when people look at him. Big boy Robert craps his diaper and laughs when other people catch a whiff.
Taking bets on Robert spamming on Christmas Day.
>>64667428>>64667461>>64667477>>64667488Samefag
Bear in mind, Robert made a dogshit thread today he spammed nearly 100 posts in while I was at work and all it took for it to go away was me posting a proper general (with Milley on the OP lmao) and reporting his thread.Want to keep seeing /meg/? Do this one simple trick. Its very easy.
>>64667488Betting you'll be here to shill for the military when he is.
>>64666896Why did nothing come up when I did it?
>>64667541Because every /meg/ thread is literally one person's fever dream / schizophrenic meltdown about someone named robert and the fact that he himself never served and is hell bet on living through othet people, so he tries so con them into joining.
>>64667520>>64667541>>64667562>Not replying to the post that you are actually replying to>Pretending Robert doesnt exist>Constant typosYou really arent good at concealing yourself ITT robert.Little r robert because you're not doing your best work.Why dont you post a new LARP again instead of debunking whether you exist or not?
>>64666925Lol fuck the military https://youtu.be/TwoIgxAXVvw?si=__73rP95izqdqdQV
>>64667596
>>64667599
>>64667611>he's so paranoid about reusing the literal same image he has used hundreds of times that he screenshots it from firefox instead of just posting it with a new filenamewow.
>>64667623Military strong.
>>64667611Who's my little edgelord? You are! Yes you are!
>>64667639Who got triggered by it? You did! You did, my little neverserved!
>>64667645That statistic includes you Robert.Be careful not to shoot yourself on Christmas this new years with your 1911
>>64667648So you admit robert served?
>>64667650Yes thats why you got a BCD
>>64667648Which one is robert? There are two people that posted 1911's.
I'm glad you didnt kill innocent people while you served, Robert but I sometimes wish you did so that you would have been court marshalled to Leavenworth instead of living in this thread.
Let me type your next postWhats a leavenworth?Whats a court marshal?Lmao its too easy
>>64667661Robert/Dirlewangerfag has never posted guns, but Peoriafag and 92Gfag have
>>64667683Redpill me on all these characters. I am so lost.
>>64667689Its one guy that gets off on negative attention, and he comes here instead of /pol/ because real people post here.
>>64667689Dirlewangerfag is a psychotic dysgenic retard who got kicked out of training for the Army for wanting to start his own war crimes unit. 92Gfag is a guy who regrets joining the military and got out a year ago. Peoriafag is a neverserved delivery driver who hates the US military because he's a commie.
>>64667760Dirlie is Peoriafag. If they were different people, then that would mean that the Dirlecocksucker was successfully trolled out of this thread, but every time this is mentioned, dirlewanger posts magically reappear as if on command. Its the same faggot trying to rebrand himself after realizing literally nobody wants to listen to a guy that worships a pedophilic nazi war criminal
>>64667787Peoriafag is literally morbidly obese and had ankle reconstruction surgery at 17. He never would have even been accepted into the Army.
>" " Redpill " " me on these people that I am pretending to not be right now
>>64667810Which leads to the theory that he faked having a BCD because he thought it would make him look like a badass rebel instead of a schizoid loser. He is now trying to own his failure the same way fags call eachother fag to try to reclaim their faggotry
>>64667850I've seen photos of both Dirlewangerfag and Peoriafag. They look completely different.
>>64667856Post them and prove me wrong. Its the same guy for about 6 years, and his behavior today demonstrated that he is going to do this for another 6 years. Dude is going to be in his 40's on 4chan thinking that his behavior would make his idols proud
>>64667875Completely different builds and facial hair / chest hair distribution.
>>64667907Got an archived link of the original picture on the left? I have never seen that picture posted here
>>64667912I saved it a long time ago. You're not here every day, so it's not like you see everything posted here.
>>64667850I think that tracks because if Peoriafag was just a commie who hates the US military, I would imagine that drive-by spamming /meg/ for 6 years would get stale by year 1.It has to be "Robert" spinning up new personas on a whim. Maybe even stealing previous personas like how he did with 92G ITT.
>>64667925Peoriafag has been shit posting on 4chan for 20 years at this point. If you want to see the kind of pettiness he's capable of, look into the whole Ronnie's Burgers / Kyle Blanchard saga on /ck/
>>64667934>Ronnie's Burgers / Kyle Blanchard saga on /ck/>Texas restaurant>Robert obsessed with Texas National Guard arch-nemesisCould it be?Robert is Peoriafag?
>>64667961Trust me, Kyle Blanchard is the missing link in all of this. Keep pulling on this thread; you're so close to the truth.
>>64667918I have no reason to believe anything you say without proof
>>64667972You seem a little paranoid.
>>64667970this is a hilarious troll actually thank you for this.Peoriafag is just a Robert identity crisis persona though.
>>64668021Those are clearly two different people in that image above.
>>64666972>shabbos goy>not the literal cattle being paid blood money before getting hauled off to die for IsraelDon't you have some rain to sweep private
>>64668028I don't really care.
>>64668035Ears are different, too.
>>64668062>I'm going to save slivers of pictures of a random guy and dripfeed them to convince you that two of my personas are differentK
>>64668075>random guy That's Peoriafag. Believe it or don't; I know the truth.
I'm sorry to tell you all but... Robert died 17 years ago. What you're talking to isn't real.
>>64668108Perhaps the real Robert was the friends we made along the way.
>>64668062Looks inbred
>>64668113>wasYou mean... "were"?...*creates conflict instantly*
>>64668081So why aren't you doing a better job of convincing us?Your alibi: Trust me Bro
Does anyone know what got Robert so upset today?
>>64668169What blew up this time?
>>64668169He's spending the end of the year alone again so he thinks talking to himself will help numb the pain.
>>64668174No, his melties aren't what motivates him like other vatniks. He doesn't really seem to care that much about the war in Ukraine anyways.
What kinda civvie opportunities can i expect if i roll through CG? Any rating
>>64668379Depends on the rate, but each one offers civilian opportunities. If you rule out federal opportunities, that answer changes.
I'm not here to join the military, I'm just here to say ALL HEIL GENERAL MILLEY
>>64668372Does anybody? Why should anyone?
>>64668429Ask the self-hating westerners why they choose to root for "the bad guy" even if it goes against their "alternative morality". I still am in disbelief that /pol/, a board once full of self-described Hitler-worshipping Nazis now kisses the feet of the ruler of the people that raped and murdered their way through Nazi Germany rather than siding with the nation that openly embraces neo-Nazis militias and has slaughtered over 1 million Russians.
>>64668469I think it's more of a hatred for the US government than anything else.
>>64668392the virgin /meg/ schizo:>spams a bunch of shit about le ZOG and milley with woke makeup and le god emperor trump 24/7 while living in his mom's basement>zero other sources of human contact or attention>seethes about a retired general every single daythe chad milley:>does not think about anon at all or even know he exists>received a CIB twice>makes schizos and trump dick riders seethe just by existing
>>64668490The problem with contrarianism is that it existence is dependent, and therefore must be subservient to the thing it opposes.
>>64668469It's essentially this. Ukraine is acting as nothing more than a puppet for nato. Despite their "nazi" veneer. Putin serves the same role hitler did, a counter to the western ideology. No more, no less. Intrestingly enough, the same people that hate nazis, love "muh socialism" are against russia in this conflict. It seems to have flipped both sides of the ideological culture war.
>>64668528Never in my life have I ever heard anyone say Nazi Germany was anti-West, but here we are
>>64668531Look at the current western world and ask yourself if nazi Germany would have tolerated any of whats going on now. The only socialism that works oddly enough is national socialism.
>>64668537Yeah sorry no you are making absolutely zero sense and I can't promise you will find anyone who can make sense of this bullshit. You've twisted yourself into so many knots being anti-everything that you have yourself become a self-hating westerner
>>64668553What time did you start your meltie today? You truly are buckbroken, psychologically fucked, and utterly BTFO. Don't worry, I'll get that letter from Bales one of these days, on a day you behave extra bad.
Morality question... is it okay to join the military if you don't agree with the current administration?
>>64668623Many joined under Obongo, it really doesn't matter.
>want to enlist in AF and try for an intel job that requires top secret clearance>tfw I imported a Perst-3 from Ivan Tactical in like 2021 right before Biden Admin cracked down on everything coming out of RussiaHow fucked am I? I read somewhere that the glowies can pull your file from US Customs when they do one of those deep-dive background checks on you.
Its really funny that Robert is trying to pawn off multiple of his personalities as different people ITTHe created this long belated fake history of Peoriafag to distance that personality from the true Robert. Even going as far as to supplant Peoriafag as some elaborate troll that has been around for 15 years. Honestly this sounds more like a self-report. I checked the archives, literally nothing.Who keeps track of a random single anon across 3 boards (/b/, /ck/, and /k/)? Just doesnt seem like a plausible story. Complete headcanon.Then his GIGA cropped pictures of two different fags who have 0 source 0 archived posts associated with them are supposed to be "evidence" than Dirlewangerfag (Robert) and Peoriafag (Also Robert) are two "different" people.Even if all these fags are "different" by some miracle, why are they all ITT?Why does one disappear when the other shows up?If they are FUD'ing the military then why are they in "Military Enlistment General"?Its all Robert. Its not all Robert, no one gives a shit. They shouldnt be here.
>>64668653read the fucking sf86 linked in the OP retard, it lists everything they will ever ask when doing a clearance investigation
>>64668550>become a self-hating westernerSo what is the opposite of that, and what does one of those stand for?
>>64668701First define what a "westerner" is (spoiler: there is no unanimous consensus) in order to determine what a westerner would hate about themselves. Then ask why somebody living in "the West" (again, no consensus and what this actually is) would side with foreigners over their kin, in the same manner that women of conquered tribes spread their legs for the conquerors. Lastly, consider whether siding with people that despise you made any difference to the countless millions that did the same thing and ended up in unmarked graves, regardless of the ideology of the executioner.
>>64668675>87 pages of shit the could have just pulled from the phone bookWhat is this, just the tell-on-yourself form? If theyre not going to bother even looking up my last known address why would they bother double checking anything i put on the back half?
>>64668773if you want a clearance you have to play by the government's rules. if filling out a form is too much for you then you won't get a clearance, simple as.
Culture wise how does the AF and Army compare?
>>64668734You used the term "westerner" >>64668469 care to define it for us then? Tell me why I, or should care about ukraine? It's the strangest thing. A russian, iraqi, Iranian, or north korean never sold drugs on my bloc, shot up my school, or robbed someone in my neighborhood. They must not hate me as much you seem to think. Define what my "kin" is? Because the US is pretty divided right now in many ways. Even within the military, many people don't see eye to eye or agree on much. Especially people like >>64668623.
>>64668734NTA, but the answer is in the term. He's probably refering to western europe and the US.
>>64668777If I had to sum it up:Join the army if you want opportunityJoin the AF if you want comfort
>>64668895>Join the army if you want opportunityPut a pin in that. If you have shit leadership that goes out the window.
>>64668655I think Robert is an omnipotent poltergeist.
>>64668834>blocYou mean "(street) block"?
>>64668623The President is not the military.
>>64668834Not him, or any of these people, but I'm starting to wonder if it became a problem that I told my recruiter that my religion is "Eastern Orthodox". I mean, who's gonna assume I'm Greek? I'm not anyway, but I'm sure my cultural descent was a hot topic.>t. a half-Ukrainian