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When was the last time battleships were actually useful?
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>>64666407
Ah yes, the Gigaburke (Burke 2050) will be called a BB instead of a DD.
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>>64666407
American Kirov class.

The Addressor Class
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>>64666407

Around 33 fifty years ago
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>Zumwalt-based BMD capital ship with the full 69-RMA SPY-6 and Mach 47 boost phase interceptors
It's finally happening!
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>>64666407
Wait a sec, he hasnt finished the Space Force fleet yet. (what ever happened to that?) Does he have ADHD or something?
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>>64666863
He's 85 anon. But also, probably yeah he does. The wranglers in his last administration had to constantly jangle keys in front of him in order for him to not get distracted by the weeks current "thing"
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>>64666407
Korea?
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>>64666407
The world war 2 American navy, if transposed to today, would not only be the second most powerful navy in the world, it would probably be the second most powerful military.
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>>64666921
2/10
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>>64666921
Second most powerful after China, of course.
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>>64666407
Shore bombardment operations are their primary use case. It's the cheapest method to get a payload to its destination. Or at least it was, back when there was a supply chain for naval artillery. You can pretty efficiently level a large area with that type firepower.

The Iowa class also had the option to fire (gun type) nuclear artillery, which by their nature as a gun type fission bomb, would create longer lasting radiation in the area of effect.


It's probably better to invest in an arsenal ship fleet though
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>>64666407
Operation Desert Storm, where they did a hell of a lot more than the DDGs did in shore suppression.
Today though, the crew used to man a arsenal ship or whatever would still be better served on two DDGs; if you really need to delete the forces on a coast, bring a carrier group.
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Reminder that the bomber mafias has done irreparable damage to national security for no reason.
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>>64666924
Lmao you meant to quote this one >>64666931
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I think he’s just has no clue what makes a battleship a battleship and it will just be a bigger than usual ship. Also “the gold fleet” sounds like some Chinese thing.
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>>64667057
I mean, we called it "White" but "Gold" would've been appropriate.
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>>64667031
Anon isn't a time traveler. Probably.
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Having some VLS cells exclusively dedicated to anti missile / aircraft duty would definitely be a must have on a modern battleship, even while operating within a fleet
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>>64666958
It's the cheapest method if you ignore absolutely everything except the cost of the shells fired
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Ahh yes the Montanas will finally be built.
With 2x 3-railgun turrets, 128 VLS cells, 4x double-THAAD launchers, 4x 155mm turrets, 4x quad-Patriots, 2x SPY-9 complexes, honeycomb modular skeleton, motor pods, trimaran wing-bays with gantry-cranes for drones, anti-torpedo torpedo tubes, an amphib bay to the rear, a TV studio, and 2x boxing rings in the bow gym belowdecks, with a 1/2 inch bolt sticking out from the bow girder for the ship's UFC champ to hang his gloves.
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>>64666462
Imagine the white-hot melty that would ensue if china lost a carrier to an ASBM.
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>>64667632
>Imagine the white-hot melty that would ensue if China lost
China started having lost. They've been doing nothing but losing for three millennia.
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>>64666407
When they used the Missouri to shell stuff in a situation in the First Gulf War when there wasn't much of an airborne threat.

A battleship these days would probably have to be largely focused on protecting carriers from missiles and drones while carrying a handful of missiles, drones, and torpedoes, but you could do that with smaller ships so I guess you could use the reactor it's big enough to have and throw on a token railgun to justify oh no wait they cancelled that didn't they.
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>>64666863
Well they've got to build the battleships first, then they can put the engines they got off the ship that crashed in Area 51 and launch the whole darn thing into space from the ocean! Then we'll have the space force!

...God do I wish they'd make a sequel to Battleship where they'd pull something like that, strapping alien space engines to the back of the Missouri. But that would be a plot involving the country accomplishing something so hollywood would never allow anyone to even imagine it.
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>>64666412
It'll be called BB after Trump's balls.
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>Golden Fleet
Man, does everything have to be about gold with this guy? Where the COOL names at?
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>>64666407
They were useful during the Gulf War but not useful enough to justify the cost of building new ones.
That doesn't really matter because no one is building battleships and this is just a senile boomer renaming shit again.
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>>64666407
Jutland
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Like the F47, this is just a maneuver to get the DDG(X) built
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>>64666921
The entire WW2 Us navy would die to a single modern carrier and its compliment of superhornets
It wouldn't even be a fight, they didn't have a single weapon in their entire inventory capable of even reaching a modern jet, and absolutely no way of defending against PGMs
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Would this be a valid use of Battleships?
>Houthi situation
>Park Battleships along the coast
>Any time a missile is detected being set up to launch, obliterate it with 16 inch cannon fire
>When they inevitably try moving out of the 16 inch gun's range, they act as floating AA platforms since you could fit a truly absurd number of CWIS on one
>Basically Houthi have two options- try to launch at ships in the straight which requires them getting close enough to be shelled, or try to launch at the battleships themselves which are both coated in AA systems and durable enough to shrug off anything that actually gets through

This entire idea of course relies on the cannons having a long enough range to meaningfully deny launch sites, the AA being able to shoot down missiles either passing overhead or going at the ship, and having good enough surveillance to identify launches before they happen and I'm not sure if any of those three are true. Well, I assume the AA bit is true, but no idea if Houthi missiles can just fly over ground based AA or if they are low altitude.
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>>64668154
It would die to the Italian Helicopter Carrier Cavour.
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>>64666931
Lol, China . . . remember that time a bunch of nanations ganged up all their forces on them and they whipped they asses and sent 'em packing? No - me neither.
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>Golden Fleet

What is it with this senile conman's obsession with gold? He's like a fucking A
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>>64668167
No.



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