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/arg/ we argue about rifles and stuff edition

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>>64659178
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ok but that drippy new can tho
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Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB5c-KmxqQw
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If anyone posts my pics between now and new years it aint me. Merry xmas and happy kwanzaa to those who celebrate
>>64666803
Good luck have fun
>>64666858
Dat flash tho
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>>64666866
Proofs the flash is bad
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>>64666858
can't see it with the camo
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>>64666874
It was revealed to me via post nut clarity :^)

Ok im out yall have fun be safe
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>>64666830
Xcr bad ar-15 good

How'd I do
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>>64666943
XCR mid
ar15 goated
thats better i think for the kids nowadays
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>>64666943
real
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>>64666943
Uhhh
Your mom
and
i fart in your general direction
>>64666965
If we were ranking them on long term lead accumulation that's probably accurate
>let's see if I can post after the newest kuroba update
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>>64667085
no AR15 ever failed trials
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Thanks to the anon that posted the m60 sling link. It feels/looks nice
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Also to the anon that asked about the shoes in the last thread: shrimply converse
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I do not remember where I bought them but I can promise you they were from a thrift store or second hand store.
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>>64667132
There were lots of failures which is why it's as good as it is today
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>>64667146
Your welcome
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FACT: the ar-15 is the most battle proven rifle with the best overall performance we've ever seen

FACT: anything purporting to be the next best thing is still essentially in the beta stage (see SCAR, XCR, MCX) and basically *can't* be taken seriously. Despite their effort to quantify their qualities for example, neither Schizo Cabron nor A2 can really ever provide the massive amount of data provided for the AR15 in a single lifetime. The AR-15 (DI) has killed millions of niggas (probably, someone do the math) and fought in dozens if not hundreds of conflicts.

There is nothing wrong with exploring other stuff for fun but having a "duty" rifle that isn't a 556 DI AR-15? just not serious
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>>64667309
Indeed
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Stealth additive works doesn't offer credova or sezzle or klarna or PayPal payment for their tisha. What now
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>>64667309
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>>64666861
Nice, but the 1978 version is better than the 1972 version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j72UJyOUPE
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>>64667330
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>>64667323
I’m sure silencer shop does
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>>64667371
kek
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>>64667309
AR-15 is in the position it is due to massive spend and iteration over 60 years. It's a good system

The XCR is better in the following areas:
Extreme environment reliability
Better ergos
Better flexibility without swapping parts (subs-supers-suppressor changes do not need a buffer or gas system change)
Better feed angle for STANAGs
Stronger bolt and captured firing pin (see also 416 et al)
Better cam path/wear pattern (steel on steel vs steel on aluminum, see also longer AR-15 cam paths)
Fixed ejector is 50/50 but its one less moving part/spring. Not a very common failure point with maintenance

Areas where the XCR could be better:
Simpler gas block
CHF barrels?
Weak side mag release fence
Better stock LOP adjustment design

>this should start the thread off nicely
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Tisha looks kinda troony ngl
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>>64667146
you're welcome
>>64667263
fuck off. that was me.
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>>64667516
Reminds you of your chode that you cut off?
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>>64667462
Low effort bait
>>64667516
I'd beat off in your face if you said that shit to me
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>>64666943
>How'd I do
It's the same gay ass one you post every time, what are you asking?
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>>64667636
>misreads post
>gets mad about it
do not do that
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>>64667132
>no AR15 was ever too good to actively be sabotaged
Ok.
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>>64667462
>steel on aluminum
The AR-15 barrel extension is steel
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>>64667643
do you seriously believe that? That's weak cope
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>>64667642
I don't actually have conversations with people on 4chan, I haven't for years. I've found the effort/reward ratio simply isn't there. I'm just here to shitpost and annoy people, why should I bother doing anything else?
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>>64667653
that's fair and I have nothing to say in response
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>>64667651
I know the full story, that is 100% what happened. Although, to be fair, I am now remembering that the M16 also started its military career being actively sabotaged.
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>>64667649
>the cam interacts with the barrel extension
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>>64667653
same
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>>64667662
I need proof
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>>64667698
It's been a while since I looked up the details, but I'm pretty sure it was only disqualified after not having a blank firing adapter because the USPS conveniently "lost" it in the mail after the XCR had been receiving glowing reviews from those who had already tested it. This isn't the proof you're looking for, but military procurement is sketchy and corrupt as a rule and some variant of this story has been consistently told across the last couple decades by more than just the maker of the rifle.

All a moot point anyway, seeing as the SCAR they adopted instead was more or less abandoned in favor of just sticking with the AR anyway because that's what SOCOM was already familiar with. The XCR would've probably suffered the same fate, even if it had won.
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>>64667776
>they were shipped separately from the rifles (as in another package)
>its a regular a2 bfd
>the grenade launcher rfp change was added 50 days before the due date

My thought is FN was already working with SOCOM, they requested the grenade launcher from FN ~8 months before the testing and the competition was a formality to pick the FN product. Things like the FN being one of the few rifles submitted with a recip charging handle, and the grenade launcher development implies to me communication outside the SCAR competition
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>>64667776
>but military procurement is sketchy and corrupt as a rule
I know it's the meme but like why should I believe this
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>>64667854
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>>64667858
what if they're just stupid
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>>64667861
they keep doing it
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>>64667854
>what is the mcx/m7
Clearly not the best choice
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>>64667854
let's not forget this one either
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>>64667869
>>64667864
This doesn't clear the theory they're just very stupid and incompetent
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>>64667880
Yes it is merely a coincidence. Nothing to see here.
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>>64667854
AH-56 Cheyenne vs AH-1 Cobra
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>>64667818
As always, I'm sure the people making the decisions had already made up their minds before the dates of the trials were even announced. The most recent NGSW program and the fuckery with the Sig 320 are other great examples of this. Robinson was apparently the one who initially suggested the SCAR trials, but the military undoubtedly wanted their FN big boi contract no matter what.
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Never attribute to malice what can be easily attributed to idiocy.
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It must be a depressing life thinking every retard is conspiring against you
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>>64667896
>>64667910
Jews are your friends and I'm tired of pretending they aren't.
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>>64667910
Bro are you scheming behind my back?
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>>64667896
This is ironically a fallacy.
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>>64667671
The cam relief has nothing to do with locking, it’s just clearance for cam rotation
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>>64667943
>t. malice



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