Are modern U.S. shipyards still capable of producing ships on such a scale?
>>64671802The Bethlehem Steel Corporation was an American steelmaking company headquartered in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. Until its closure in 2003, it was one of the world's largest steel-producing and shipbuilding companies. At the height of its success and productivity, the company was a symbol of American manufacturing leadership in the world, and its decline and ultimate bankruptcy and liquidation in the late 20th century is similarly cited as an example of America's diminished manufacturing leadership during the late 20th century.[1] From its founding in 1857 through its 2003 dissolution, Bethlehem Steel's headquarters were based in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, in the Lehigh Valley region of eastern Pennsylvania
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>>64671802they don't need to, they do need some improving, but they'll never need to build massive numbers of ships like that again because fleet sizes have become smaller in favour of more expensive but far more powerful ships.chinks will boast about their shipbuilding but the reality is that the moment the war goes hot and china loses the first exchange, those just get bombed, the US is not going to let them just lick their wounds and build another fleet for 5 years.
>>64671816>that chartout of date lolmanufacturing in china is now on a downward spiral, since they've run out of grifter cities to build with steel in their own country.
>>64671820t. IJN
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>>64671837>angry chinkshill making historical connections that don't make sense again.japan was in the same situation china is in now, fucked up by jumping the gun on their empire too soon, isolating them, and now forced into an increasingly small corner by a a downward economic slope.japan at least managed to get some space between them and the US before things went loose, china is just stuck behind a fence from day one, with no way of breaking out.PGM's also didn't exist back then, now, they do, so china's shipyards will be targets that get hit on day one.
>>64671843>chart shows exactly what i said it showedyep, thanks for pointing that out, you didn't have to repeat after me though.
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>>64671866>2026>LiveLeak
>>64671880thankfully there are plenty of other sources of hilarious chink gore that have replaced liveleak.nothing will ever replace that little logo in my heart though.
>>64671853>japan was in the same situation china is in nowBack in the 40's the USA was by far the worlds greatest industrial powerhouseNow on the other hand...
>>64671853>japan was in the same situation china is in now1939 Japan steel production 7 M tons.US 50 M tons2024 US steel production 80 M tonsChina 1000 M tons.
>>64671843Holy shit I didn’t realize China made so much steel
>>64671896now on the other hand, china would still lose because being an industrial powerhouse doesn't power up the fleet you already have, when it gets destroyed by the superior american fleet, you're just without a fleet, and all the ships you're building in port will be destroyed by PGM's, because they can't fight back.
>>64671913it's cute that you keep masturbating about that like it's a magic verse but that doesn't really stop the chinese fleet from getting blown up.
>>64671802Similar numbers of modern warships? No. Similar numbers of ships that are equally capable to those built during WW2? Maybe.
>>64671913Yea, but what your figure really proves is that you only need 50m tons of steel production to win a world war. Who cares if you have 1.3x that or 50x that it doesn't matter any more
>>64671880You can never go back, anonLet it go
>>64671954also most countries today have massive reserves of strategic resources like metals and a lot of metal manufacturing today is done with recycled materials, metal is ridiculously easy to recycle.
>>64671843>blows up the Chinks shipyardsOkay, now what?
>>64671802 only one??
>>64672012battleships were already of very niche usecase by that point, which is why it baffles me that people want to see them return.
>>64671887Where
>>64671934NTA but why the constant seething? Are you Taiwanese or something?
>>64672010I don't know anything about the fantasies in your head, impossible to tell
>>64672012the South Dakotas were all built at different shipyards. The Iowas were split amongst multiple shipyards as well, but with 2 completed at 2 different yards. Pic related is the battleship built by Bethlehem Steel.
>>64672024You may need to look up what "niche" means before actually attempting to use such an advanced word. It doesn't mean "rare".
I believe the US is CAPABLE of bringing back manufacturing like this, but it will only be gov/subsidized industries. If you pay people well enough they'll deal with all the bullshit of a terribly job. Like oilfield stuff. Since we can't appeal to patriotism anymore.Like if you paid $100/hr steady work with regular hours you could have as many welders and metal fabricators as you want. Say no drug tests but if you fuck up one iota, you lose the cushy job, and they'll fall in line.
>>64672429Huge non-argument. Whole states used to be nothing but steel mills, coal mines, and auto manufacturing and they were closed down not because of a lack of labor but because execs wanted to ship all the jobs to China.>"But the kids with their ipads and their almond toast won't work in a steel mill!"Day of the pillow is coming soon, boomer.
>>64671933Replace "PGM's" with "fighter bombers" and you get what the Japs were thinking in the 40's LMAO
>why the constant seethingwhere?all i did was point out how irrelevant it is to keep jerking that metric and you get irrationally angry?>>64672398yes, but niche things TEND to be rare as you don't need a lot of them, because they are a nichedid you seriously need that explained to you.
>>64672523sorry chang but I and every other red blooded American patriot on this board am such a jingoist that you could show me irrefutable mathematical evidence that the United States would lose ww3 and I'll still look you straight in your slanted, squinty eyes and say "nah I'd win" so you can take your chink cope back to Weibo or whatever you godless insect people talk to each other on and shove it up each other's asses
it's hilarious in a subtle way how you can feel the frustration reverberating through your screen when you don't play the chinkshill's game the way he wants it to be played.>n-noooo you weren't implessed by china's steel production, nooooo, not fair, the handbook didn't tell me you would respond that way!they're so cute when they're not in a fullblown meltdown yet, trying trying and trying so hard to subtly shill for china without any self-awareness.
>>64672561US won the war with Japan for a reason. What was that reason? Was it a manufacturing base? It's no longer there. Was it population numbers? It's in Chinas favor now. Was it white man's superiority? The US is no longer a white nation. You can't expect to keep winning when you loose all your winning cards. Britain and France thought they could, but they no longer rule the world.