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>>64678291>US deploys "Cheap" attack drone copied from Iranian technology>US deploys "cheap">"US">"CHEAP"may we see the price tag?
>Iran copied US technology in 2011 when it hijacked an American RQ-170 drone and brought it down safely inside Iranian airspace (or Afghanistan, depends who you ask)>Use it to make the Shasneed>USA gets one>Copies itWhat goes around comes around, I guess. Also, $35,000 isn't THAT cheap.
>>64678324It is cheap since it has satcom and FLIR
>>64678291>if i keep repeating it, it will magically become trueNot how that works in western high trust societies lol.Lying like you do just brands you as a liar.
>>64678324>Also, $35,000 isn't THAT cheap.lmao, are you sure?
>>64678291>see your enemy has a good idea>use it for yourselfI hate the niggers acting like military technology is homework, you don't get bonus points for being a special snowflake. It's why I also don't care that the chinks copy us, no shit they're gonna copy the one country that has their shit together militarialy speaking
>>64678338Fake news.
>>64678330It is an advanced version of the Shasneed yeah but it isn't exactly as cheap as people are making it out to be. >>64678338Protip, when you see big budget items for weird things like toilet seats or pens or whatever, 9/10 it is a way to hide black budget shit, or is actually not a fucking toilet seat or pens... It's something specific but actually writing what it is in publicly available records is not wise. That's assuming it is true, of course.
>>64678332>if i keep denying it it, the boogie man will go away!https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/america-stole-irans-shahed-drone-now-copying-it-bw-122025
>>64678348>bme>bsumarian>fucking parthians copy muh bowStooop iiittt! You caaaan't copy me!
>>64678348>tech gets to Israel>ends up in your enemy's hands hmmm
>>64678350>>64678358>Protip, when you see big budget items for weird things like toilet seats or pens or whatever, 9/10 it is a way to hide black budget shit, or is actually not a fucking toilet seat or pens... It's something specific but actually writing what it is in publicly available records is not wiselmao, this must be some super ultra giga megazord shahed™ then
>>64678370The drone in OP is $35,000, anon.>LUCAS is being sold to American defense planners on the grounds of both advanced technologies paired with a relatively low-price tag. At just around $35,000 per LUCAS unit.
>>64678348>the circle of life
>>64678348The pic needs an arrow from Geran to Shahed with the American LUCAS attacking Iran.
>>64678376Come one, thirdies have to cope somehow.
>>64678370>>64678359>>64678338What's with the seething, vatnigger?
>>64678359>national interestYou should at least find an article from a real agency. National interest is literally a tabloid
>>64678393no him but why are you coping so hard lol
>>64678291If you want a cheap drone to saturate air defense, is the delta push prop configuration really the ideal?
https://militarnyi.com/en/news/ukraine-is-developing-shahed-like-cooper-drone-made-of-polyurethane/>Ukraine is Developing Shahed-Like Cooper Drone Made of Polyurethane>The material turned out to be not only cheaper than three-component composites, but also lighter by 19%, without losing strength.>“With just three sets of dies, up to 700 hulls can be produced per month – four and a half times more than with the classic composite scheme,” the company says.big if true
>>64678348>Meme of Shitting Chain>The Eternal Germoid shits on>Dornier that shits on>Daniels (SA) that shits on>IAI (and Daniels) that shits on>HESA that shits on>Alabuga that shits on>moscow and russian taxpayer, that shits on>the israeli creating thsi scam, that shits on >the united states of america, fuck yeah
>>64678484dang, all they need now is a constellation of guidance satellites to provision their mission planning an they will be all good to go!>guidance sattellite network...when?
>>64678348The US has been similar to Russia, holding on to 1900s relic pieces of technology like giant bombers and aircraft carriers, thinking they are superwaffles, but it would go up in smoke to cheap drones during the first days of a real war with China.
>>64678458For cheap but still reasonably capable it is hard to beat. A jet engine with similar range is a lot more expensive than the one in a lawnmower and with minimal but enough to at least hit a map coordinate sensors and guidance is about as cheap as you can reasonably get a guided weapon to be. You could maybe get more out of something electric but maybe not.
>>64678502Implessive, ping-pong wumao
>>64678291There is already a live thread on this topic>>64658887Why make a new one and not even have the deceny to link an article?
>>64678592I still wonder if a pulsejet might not be cheaper.Also shaheds should be complemented by V1 (steel or aluminium frame, pulsejet, higher payload)
>>64678635Cheaper maybe but pulsejets are very inefficient. It's basically just dumping fuel into a hot pipe so it's simple but very crude.
>>64678484This indeed seems rather interesting.
>>64678370>lmao, this must be some super ultra giga megazord shahed™ thenBlack budget shit can be anything. A spy satellite, a bribe, part of a datacenter...
>>64678668So? Fuel is cheap too.
>>64678798Fuel efficiency directly translates into range. The pulsejet would maybe gain you a small speed increase (though still slower than a jet turbine or rocket) but have 20% of the range. There is a reason why they never really caught on past the V1.
>>64678291>coped from iranand where iran got it?And then where that country got it?
>>64678324>Use it to make the Shasneedwhat on earth did they need an RQ-170 for when making a shahed?>>64678499>satellite guidancepretty sure it's all jammed to shit and those things just do INS nowadays with occasional degraded GPS/GLONASS/Galileo from commercial receivers
Quick questions to americaDo you have some "law" in your constitution akin to "No president elections during War Time"Because for some reason i am starting to think Trump is planning SMO in greenland near end of his term.
>>64678291Finally, we RETVRN to triangles
>>64678953It would require an overwhelming majority of congress to do such a thing and 2028 is still a ways out. If he cant improve the economy hes gonna be a Lame Duck after midterms.
>>64678953Afaik, no we don't suspend elections during wartime. Perhaps there's a clause in case of domestic invasion but we've held elections mid-WWII
>>64678359>nationalinterest.org
>>64678953Lincoln literally held elections during the freakin' civil war.
>>64678484while 700 drones raining down on mosque and pidorsburg a month is nice, we should be flooding them with enough money to make that 700 a day
>>64679024what does that even mean?
>>64678981>improve the economylol, lmao even
>>64679088Thats literally all that matters for American voters.
>copied from iran>who copied it from israel>who copied it from the west germansRetards the lot of you.
>>64678338>Quincy Institute>"We are American patriots please ignore half of our main contributors having ties to Russia"
how do you think black projects are financed ?They put a nice line$100M for F-117 ?
>>64678879No one because the Shasneed isn't a Harpy clone no matter how much you repeat it. Provide literally any proof beyond "looks similar".
>>64678291What "Iranian technology" did the US copy? sensors? engines?
>>64679531The role and general specs. That combination was innovative enough to be patent-able regardless if the concept was mostly retarded.Iran originally bought the design from Daniels (South Africa), but it was a considerably smaller drone with a different role (because it was a revision of the original anti-rad Dornier DAR)
>>64678291Is this thing going to be the standard now? What does everyone else use?
>>64678291the entire thread consists of >US strongdying empire
>>64679612The whole world is having money problems entirely due to commie fuckery that began in 2019.Blaming the US is a retard reaction.
>>64679612smooth brain
>>64678315Kneel, Sinjin Hawke.
>>64679525Well in that case, LUCAS isn't a Shahed clone since it's a loitering munition like the Harpy rather than a slow cruise missile like the Shahed.
>>64678330>FLIR500 euros worth
>Dronefags keep claiming Shaheds cost $35,000>Russia was actually paying Iran ten times that before building their own factory>It's still costing Russia 50% more than that to build them, and they're just shitty GPS-guided guided cruise missiles>The US builds a "clone" that actually comes in at the claimed $35k price point with all sorts of autonomous guidance bullshitAre we witnessing another MiG-25 moment?
>>64679853Post the evidence on the US gov buying those drones for $35k (shipping not included)
>>64679866>Post the evidence on the US gov buying those drones for $35k (shipping not included)
>>64678502Do you seriously think a carrier, which the USN had trouble destroying with heavy ordinance in test, is going to be sunk by an FPV or Shahed with less explosives because you saw some videos from Ukraine?
>>64678502And yet , Taiwan West is rushing to build the very same '1900s relic pieces of technology like giant bombers and aircraft carriers'.How Implessive.
>>64679525Then where's the proof the LUCAS is a shahed copy?>>64679853It really destroys the second-worlder arguments that the US can only field expensive glass canons at 50x mark up. They do it all over, and retards repeat it, never once reading the details themselves. Even the logic doesn't make sense. If shaheds have a hit rate of 5 to 10%, and they cost ~50k a launch, they're a more expensive weapon than a more capable cruise missile that's 4x the price per unit, but with a 50% hit rate. But retards think drones are invincible super weapons.
>>64679872I hold everyone to the same standards of criticism.And I say that as one of the anon involved in the 'fact checking' related to the figures of multiple weapons used by russia, shaheds included.
>>64678981He'll sign letters of marque for private investors to acquire Greenland, without Congressional approval.At first I thought that was the anon's point: war needs Congress, but a non-war SMO or similar doesn't.
>>64678369Are you seriously trying to suggest that the Israelis would voluntarily give up military technology to the fucking Iranians?
>>64679992The Israelis would do anything to or for anybody, even their own people, if they believed it would advance their long term goals, including allowing Hamas to train and prepare for the 7 October attack in broad daylight while knowing exactly what they were planning and allowing it to happen.
>xaxaxax we want total war of attrition in the tech age that truely tests the total capabilities of countries>wait no not like thatburn
>>64678369The design was sold to them by South Africa. None of this is a secret.
>>64678484>Cope Drone
>>64679900>It really destroys the second-worlder arguments that the US can only field expensive glass canons at 50x mark up.Not really, since there's a dozen examples that come to mind immediately and easily hundreds more. JDAM, GMLRS, and APKWS are the quintessential benchmarks for cost effective munitions, the F-35 is not only the most advanced but also the cheapest fighter in the world, and the M4 is cheaper to make than an AK of comparable quality. The US has always been the world leader in military bang-for-the-buck, and they've gotten there by investing heavily in R&D instead of just shoving prototypes directly into production. Thirdies will just ignore what's right in front of their eyes and invent whatever lies they need to in order to suit the narrative they've dreamed up.
>>64679900>cruise missile that's 4x the price per unit,>Tomahawk missile>$2 million (FY2022)[5] (Block V)
>>64678348>nobody really invents anything new>they just copy ancient german techWhy is the world like this
>>64680763>Why is the world like thisIt's not.
>>64680765You must be fun at parties
>>64680770At least I get invited to them.
>>64680742The tomahawk is far more capable then a fucking shaheed. The use uses them on targets other poorer country's might use a shaheed on because they can afford to.
>>64680763Because this world is fake and gay, meanwhile the Germans are real and also gay
>>64679037Lincoln was a lawyer and had to pull some legal fuckery to do it.>>64678953Normally, no. Trump can't use a war to keep his office, he'd have to get congress to agree on a war in the first place and there's nothing in the body of law that gives him that power in case of a simple war. If he was actually clever about the law and had more political capital to spend he could suspend elections by drumming up a national emergency like on par with the civil war.
>>64680852>he'd have to get congress to agree on a war in the first placeBut not a Police Action which in practice can mean anything short of a formal declaration of war.There's loads of precedent for that.>and there's nothing in the body of law that gives him that power in case of a simple war.The body of law hasn't been a significant impediment to his actions so far.> If he was actually clever about the lawHe's not but he employs people who are.> and had more political capital to spendHe doesn't seem to be short of this, at least enough to bend Congressional Republicans to his will.>he could suspend elections by drumming up a national emergency like on par with the civil warHe's probably pretty mad that none of the national guard deployments have incited sufficient conflict to excuse invoking the Insurrection Act but he doesn't really need to do it until either the mid-terms or the end of his office.His obvious decline will mean he won't be mentally competent to hold office by then anyway though I guess Vance could continue the process.FWIW: I doubt that's Vance's agenda but who really knows.
>>64678291>Germans build drone>Iranians copy it>(((Bloomberg))) calls it Iranian
>>64678484Is something lost in translation? It's made out of plastic. They should be able to do like 700 per day with one die. Is it not injection molded plastic?
>>64680908>They should be able to do like 700 per day with one die.one every 2 minutes?
>>64680947Please understand, he suffers from premature ejaculation.
>>64680877
>>64678338The president needs a golden trash can in his new Air Force One. So shut up.
>>64680742Oh, so six times the cost of a Shahed.
>>64678369F35bros, not like this
>>64680763
>>64678291>IranianSit down faggot.https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drohne-Anti-Radar
>>64678922>what on earth did they need an RQ-170 for when making a shahed?Shahed is a product line, HESA makes dozens of different drones. The RQ-170 clone is Shahed 171 "Simorgh", while the flying dorito we all know and love is Shahed 136.
>>64680250>M4 is cheaper to make than an AK of comparable qualityLmao
>>64681273He's right though
>>64681273In the USA it is.
