I found this old rifle hidden in my grandparents house and they weren’t even aware they had it. My grandma said she was pretty sure it was my great grandfathers. The only thing I’m sure of is that it’s a Japanese one but I’m not sure the specific one
>>64679990Are there any maker's marks?
>>64679990It looks like whats left of a late production Type 99 Arisaka.
>>64679990It's an arisaka you lazy bastard.Learn to use google lens.
>>64679990I used to have the same dining room chairs.
>>64679998Yeah
>>64679990Japanese Type-99 “substitute-standard” rifle in 7.7x58mm.
>>64680018I recognize that rifle. It's a gay blowjob
>>64679999That’s what I thought but the sight is throwing me
Very fucked last ditch Type 99.
>>64679990Late war Type 99. The fixed aperture rear sight is a dead giveaway. It might be possible to get the rust cleaned up but the bolt is also missing which is a bigger problem. You can't just get a bolt and throw it in because the headspace needs to be checked.>>64680048No that's normal.
>>64679990Arisaka for sure. Looks fairly rusty, and the bolt is missing, but the receiver, and possibly the barrel (no clue about bore), look like they should be pretty easy to salvage, so it's not 100% scrap.>>64680098That would be an issue, but how hard would it be to match a spare bolt on one of these?
>>64679990I guessed Arisaka before even looking at the pic because of Ian's comment that the vast majority of mystery rifles are arisakas
>>64679990It's always an Arisaka
>>64680121That's a gunsmith question. Sarco Inc. has bolt assemblies for like $125 but a gunsmith would have to check the how it headspace and potentially adjust it if it is too loose or too tight. This is assuming that the rust hasn't already rendered the rifle totally unsafe to fire or that it's chamber wasn't already fucked due to its previous service.The action on Arisaka Type 99s is actually very strong and despite cutting a lot of corners towards the end of production because they were getting bombed constantly the rifles were still safe to fire when new. It is an open question how much wear/tear happened between it being brought back and being discovered today though. Certainly it has been badly neglected if nothing else.Be aware that if you do want it restored and have it fitted/headspace with a new bolt by a competent gunsmith all of that work will cost a lot more than the rifle is worth. These were very common as WW2/post WW2 Japanese occupation vet bring backs and they pop up all the time (there were literally mountains of these surrendered rifles piled in Tokyo waiting to be thrown into the bay and GIs would swipe one as a souvenir all the time). There's a lot of fuddlore that they were universally unsafe to fire so they were by en large shunned by collectors, plus ammunition is expensive so they aren't sought after by milsurp enjoyers today because they are expensive to shoot.Your great grandfather was probably on occupation duty, heard about it and joined a group of GIs in stealing a few. They used to "duffle cut" the stocks so they could hide them in duffle bags on the way home. Then he probably hid the bolt somewhere so that one of the kids didn't shoot somebody with it by accident and in the last ~80 years that bolt has gone missing. Also a common story. People didn't have gun safes back then, they'd have a rifle in the closet but hide the bolt a drawer or tool box somewhere.
>>64680012They're decent chairs.
>>64680164Sorry if the text is all fucked up I'm phone posting this and autocorrect is running roughshod.If the house is the same one that your great grandfather loved in after returning from WW2 check all the tool boxes, attic, kitchen drawers, cabinets for that bolt. It could be wrapped in paper or cloth (hopefully not cloth because that traps moisture and would rust it very badly).Should look like this.If you do find it it should match the rifle but it would be a good idea to have a gunsmith double check the rifle before shooting it. Removing the rust may be doable, but there's a fine line between simple repair and a historic restoration. On this thing I wouldn't be too worried on that account because it isn't super valuable even if it was 100% mint condition.For ammunition a company called Graf and Sons makes some 7.7mm Arisaka. It is painfully expensive but you probably wouldn't want to shoot this thing much anyway.
>>64680164>Be aware that if you do want it restored and have it fitted/headspace with a new bolt by a competent gunsmith all of that work will cost a lot more than the rifle is worth.If you mean historically and such? Sure, and I'm not OP, but my instinct would be to try to turn into just a basic functional sporter or something, just so that the gun can be fired and enjoyed for whatever it still can be.The barrel could indeed be fucked, but unless they permanently welded them into the receivers on the late war rifles, that could be an opportunity to try to adapt the gun to .30-06 or 7.92mm, not authentic, but close enough and actually available, and would fit with the theme of salvaging a rusted receiver into a shootable sporter.Maybe I'm just being needlessly optimistic.>>64680176If he could find the bolt, it'd be great, but OP's grandma not knowing it even existed could mean that the bolt can have become lost in oh so many ways.I guess I would start by looking in the room where he found the rifle.
>>64680164>>64681096The bore's probably fine; even the late T99s have chrome-lined bores.
>>64680018https://oldmilitarymarkings.com/japanese_markings.htmlLooks like it was manufactured by Toyo Kogyo Arsenal
>>64680048you say this acting like otherwise you are good at identifying extremely common and recognizable guns
>>64680000>Learn to use google lens.Fucking zoomers calling anyone lazy.
It really is "Always an Arisaka"
I thought it was always a FAMAS.
>>64681131Imperial Japan gets some shit for their guns, and some of it is rightful, but some of their guns were actually perfectly fine, and even had their advantages.
Hate to say it OP, but unless you find the bolt, that rifle is only valuable for whatever family history it represents.Otherwise, it's a parts gun.
