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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MfjV2vsdg

Presented without comment.
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>>64681532
This post has convinced me that Russia needs to be taken seriously, and the Ukraine NEEDS to give up 20% of its territory for 0 security guarantees and 0 economic incentives.
t. Steven Millovich, Mar-a-Lago Oblast
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Filthy wectoids mocking the great Puccian RETVRN to tradition.
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>>64681588
>>64681592
Retarded war-tourist shills.

The video was fine, a decent balanced take with the correct conclussions.

1 Russia has somewhat adapted to the battlfield conditions
2 Ukraine really started struggling in 2024
3 Drones are the biggest danger especially when troops rotate and negate much of superior NATO training and equipment
4 Russia has failed to achive operational encirclements and now keeps trading men for ground like their man-power is infinite the same mistake they made with tank and ifvs which lead to them using now civilian vehicles, donkeys,horses etc.

A correct and nuanced take that shills on both sides will hate.Simple as.
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>>64681532
>Evolution
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>>64681620
>Ukraine really started struggling in 2024
I wonder why. What happened in 2024? Was there a certain party, pray tell, maybe even a Presidential candidate that ran a whole country wide effort to pull the US support from the Ukraine War, calling it a 'waste of money and resources'. Must have been a fever dream.
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>>64681620
>war-tourist
imagine talking about the biggest war in europe since ww2 on the weapons board.
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>>64681620
I am now *really* convinced that the Ukraine needs to surrender and the Banderite regime in Kiev must be taken out. Also Odecca is of Russia.
T. John McDonal'ds from Idaxo Oblast
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>>64681688
Right? We should be arguing about troons and ANTIFA ruining this country. But i guess having discussions about WEAPONS and WAR apparently don't get those (Yous) like they used to.
Anyways, Slava Ukraine, death to Pidors, and Donald Trump is a compromised, sun downing pedophile who should be remembered as the President that sold out the US global hegemony because he could never hold a candle to a black man who led the country before him (who let a fucking town drink lead after faking taking a drink of its water).
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>>64681620
tzd
simple as, now go suck dick on /hm/
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>>64681731
You voted for a demented pedophile. I voted for someone who promised to takeaway my guns, and give me better ones. We are not the same kind of American. You are probably brown (or at least have a comparable IQ and mental capacity), and/or not allowed within 500' of a school.
>V*rification n*t r*quired
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>>64681592
Oh shit did a new horse video drop this week?
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>>64681682
It went south with the fall of Avdiivka because of the shortage of shell due to a despisable and miserable midget coackroach from Lousianna
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>>64681742
Sir, this is a thread about weapons
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>>64681771
>despisable and miserable midget coackroach from Lousianna
...who?
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>>64681771
Why did Europe not choose to give them more shells? Won't Russia become an existential threat for Europe if they defeat Ukraine?
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>>64681782
>
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>>64681731
The wonders of the migroïd mind
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>>64681795
>2nd most important man in Congress
>Is a massive flaming faggot bottom
>Manages to completely fuckover an entire continent and decades of soft power in the stroke of a pen
All I wanted was more HIMARS and Storm Shadow kino. But I guess some people wanted to soft run Russian Oligarchy in the US (I know that we're already a Plutocracy, but this shit is getting way too blatant now.)
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>>64681787
>Noooooo Europeans must buy american weapons
>Noooooo Europeans must produce their own weapons
Pick one and only one.

Btw Europeans upgraded their shell production sharply but you can't match a war level demand within a few monthes. It took years, and that's what they did.

Johnson blocked decisive batch of shells at a decisive moment. He should be rewarded heroe of Russia title.

If I was SBU, I'd put him on top of my hit list.
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>>64681620
>post shallow non-partisan truisms
>get a stream of impotent malding
I guess saying Russia has failed its strategic goals and is repeating past mistakes is not current dogma. Maybe next time say Russia has failed to adapt but is winning, or Ukraine is stronger than ever and drones aren't shit; or some other combination of opposite points. Or alternatively you're just talking to bots, and the content of your post doesn't really matter to their responses, just whatever keywords they react to.
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>>64681787
Not really, all of this invasion fantasy is propagated by several euro countries to deflect from problems at home. A country who have lost their whole army several times over to a single neighbour, to the extent that they have emptied their prisons and taken to snatching tourists off the street just to maintain troop quotas, will not be a meaningful threat to other neighbours for at least a full generation.
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>>64681795

זהו ללא ספק טפיל יהודי מוכלא.
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>>64681620
Fuck off shill nigger. Subtle propaganda is still propaganda
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>>64681795
This nigger fucked boys as a guidance counsellor in his 20s and the Russians know
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>>64681532
I feel this thread would have developed differently if you had used a different image.
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>>64681855
>Pointing out that the US sold Europe out and pulled the rug from under Ukraine is now malding
Don't you have a 13 year old's rape baby to throw into Lake Michigan today sometime?
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I watched it. The video basically states that the Russian army as of right now isn't efficient, burned through its stockpiles of modern equipment, and only slowly advances because of superior manpower while suffering horrendous losses along the way.

Why is everyone ITT so butthurt about it, I really don't get it. The video even includes drone clips of Russian cripples on crutches and Lada assaults.
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>>64681914
trolls trolling trolls
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>>64681914
>Why is everyone ITT so butthurt about it
Bot posts.
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>>64681787
Europe is trying to turborush into re-armament, but it turns out that building out MIC (from basically scratch, having left it to rot for more than a generation) takes more than just having a bunch of brussels mandarins issuing an Imperial Decree for it to be done, who knew?!

>I *expressly* ordered it to happen!
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>>64681914
Just filter the first shitpost recursively and the thread is clean. And the trash still serves its purpose, keeps the thread bumped.

It's hard to post anything neutral and informative.
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>>64681757
Only teasers and screenshots, as far as I know.
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>>64681838
A lot of retards in here have no idea what the current state of affairs is. The Rheinmetall expal facility in Spain right now produces more shells a year than the entire United States.
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>>64681914
Vatniks trying to burry it? Honestly not sure, doesn't seem like many itt have actually watched the video.
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>>64681757
>>64681956
na an actual vid
https://www.troddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1pw7xxf/a_ukrainian_fpv_drone_takes_out_a_russian_soldier
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>>64681682
It was over for Urkaine getting anything but a stalemate after they failed their counteroffensive.
We armed and trained them, they failed, we decided not to do it again.
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>>64681592
>>64681956
>>64681532
Absolutely grim.

I wonder what 2026 will hold.
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>>64681838
If Russia really is an existential threat to Europe, why did the Europeans not finish draining their artillery shell stockpiles to support Ukraine at a critical juncture? Why are Americans the bad guys for not providing shells to a non-allied country on the other side of the world when even the Europeans who directly stood to gain by stopping the Russian invasion in its tracks didn't bother?
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>>64682074
No idea but looking forward to it.
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>>64682077
This is a reminder that your nation signed a security guarantee with Ukraine and are treaty bound to aid them.
Many Americans may wish to pretend this is not the case, but it is the reality.
You offered security guarantees in exchange for the peaceful handover of their remaining legacy atomic arsenal.
You do not get to play the moral superiority card and say 'teehee we already helped them out of the goodness of our hearts even though we didn't have to, from across the world!'.
They are in the current situation because of a deal that your nation engineered. You do not bear total responsibility, but you are on the hook for some of it.
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>>64682082
Well whatever it will be, it's gonna be gemmy.

I don't think any of us seriously expected donkeys and horses back in 2024.
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>>64682055
>We armed and trained them
Yes, and it all started to go south when Republicans and terminally contrarian faggot talking heads like Tucker and Dim Tool regurgitated unfiltered Russian propaganda (everything from Burisma and biolabs) and convinced the American people that it's actually bad to empty out 80s stock and replenish it with newer, and updated equipment while destroying one of America's oldest nuclear threats with the old shit (at the cost of a few billion dollars and 0 American boots on the ground, mind you.)
>we decided not to do it again
1. You are not White, nor American. You did not choose anything.
2. Americans drank the Kool-Aid and voted like retards, and now it cost us decades of diplomacy and soft power. all this could have been avoided if NATO enforced a no-fly zone Day One of the attack. But retards here thought that would be an escalation. But the only language a Russian knows is a bootheel to the back of his AIDS riddled neck
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I admit to enjoying making AI-slop shitposts.
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>>64682102
What are you even babbling about?
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>>64682077
They DID drain their stockpiles to the fucking bare minimum reserve, retard.
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>>64681532
NTA but Europe should have unassed itself and stopped relying on the US over a decade ago. Europoors getting butt hurt over the US is mind boggling. The US will perpetually live rent free in your head I guess.
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>>64682196

was meant for >>64681910
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russia was using horses since the beginning
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>>64681532
I can't understand a thing he's saying.
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>>64682196
>literally sabotage any European endeavor to become more independent from the US for eighty years
>proceeds to complain that Europe is not independent from the US

This kind of retardation is on the same level as complaining about American cyclists being forced to share the road with car drivers, while the US had fifty years worth of chances and billions of dollars at its possession to make separate bike lanes.
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>>64681787
There were no shells to give and production was low. Production increased 10x fold since. Takes time though.

>>64682055
>We armed and trained them, they failed, we decided not to do it again.
Most of the Ukranian army was trained in Ukraine by Ukranians during their mandatory military service. Units trained in the west were often trained under an expedited schedual.
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>>64682260
>comparing independent sovereign countries handling there own affairs vs bicycle lanes

Not gonna lie the mental gymnastics here are impressive. Trump is one of the best things to happen to Europe in decades. It has finally gotten them to take shit seriously instead of just sucking the US tit.
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>>64682273
>if I kick you in the balls that's good for you because it teaches you not to trust people
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>>64682183
>bare minimum reserve
Why not zero? Would they have been better off firing those shells themselves?
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>>64682267
Yes, the training was on the provided equipment. There's something, although I don't know what, to be learned by giving green troops the gadgets because you couldn't rotate your frontline troops with battlefield knowhow off of the front, when they would make best use of the new weapons.
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>>64682320
I mostly bring that up because people equate that with Ukraine being 'trained by NATO'. It would take years to get NCO's and officers trough the pipeline and adopt western doctrine.
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In retrospective this entire ordeal reflects poorly on the entirety of the Developed World:
>Russniggers gonna russnig, still pretending they are anything but a failed mafia state with legacy nooks, they also failed to capture one of their former satrapies and are locked into a fucking meatgrinder, oh and don't forget this is because deep down they know they are competition for te west, commie insecurity anyone?
>EU had the audacity to sniff their own farts about neoliberalist end of history, fill the russniggers coffers with euros while becoming energy dependant on a fucking autocracy and ignoring all the red flags
>US not only first did pussyfoot the entire warrants to Ukraine, but then somehow managed to bring for elections a literal DEI jeeta to compete against a compromised self-deluded pro-putinist moron who thinks geopolitics are NYC real estate industry
About the only people who has benefited of this shitshow has been the chinksects as they can keep selling first need items to both sides, keeps carving out forner NATO markets, has made russnigger become dependant on them and is taking notes of how this experiment in empire rebuilding is going (all pf them are idiots).
Oh, and norks or something, buy they only have up to go anyway.
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>>64682417
*they aren't competition for the west.
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>>64682077
Traitors get the rope. You signed a treaty and refused to stand by it.
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>>64682222
>we have tachanka at home
also, checked
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>>64682055
This is bait, but it’s silly to think that
a) training and equipping an army is a one-time activity
b) that a brigade’s worth of equipment and soldiers counts as an entire army.
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>>64682130
Seems pretty easy to read if English is your Muttersprache. But since you have brown skin, I doubt it is.
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>>64682778
In Russia, cart carries horse!
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>>64682055
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>>64682780
Heh
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>>64682792
>11 smiles
You love to see it nigga
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>>64681838
>Europeans upgraded their shell production sharply
By sourcing from literal Chinese companies
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>>64682792
>no clown emoji
blyat
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>>64682792
>assault aricraft
that's a mistranslation, right? They didn't get a bunch of helos stuck on the front, right?
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>>64682196
But I did do that. And somehow it made you go apeshit for no reasons, and still does.
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>>64682881
Clown has been disabled since 2024. Greatest casualty of the war :(
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>>64682792
Imagine thinking something as flicker as the fucking weather is your ally and will always be your ally.
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>>64682792
>our assault aircraft are trapped in a cauldron



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