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Will laser guided missiles and Bombs still have a place or is it all going to be fire and forget
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You can't jam a laser. So long as there's an optical line of sight on the target, that shit's hitting.
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>>64687512
Today LGBs are still the best option for the smallest CEP in EW enviroments, when Grok AI bombs with target recognition are common LGBs will still have a place by being cheaper.
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>>64687536
You can't jam a fire and forget missile.
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>>64687546
>you can't use smoke / IR smoke to shroud a target from a seeker
Be retarded elsewhere.
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>>64687550
>seeker
That's cold war tech. Even Javelin uses thermal imager and computer vision. With the capabilities and availability of modern processors they can "see" better, faster and have instant access to much more knowledge and training than any remote based meat seeker.

IMHO key step is moving from 2D tracking to spatial reconstruction. Missile should be aware of locked object in 3D space, it's speed, direction, maneuvering capabilities, 3D shape from database or measured during acquisition. Then most counter measures become apparently false allowing missile to track on expected path. And unlike a static observer at launch site, the missile can constantly update its environmental model allowing tracking behind obstacles or

At that point only hard kill counter measures, large scale decoys or dogfight could still work. OTOH I suspect many systems already incorporate similar methods and it ends up being a battle of time and delta V's where plane hopes to out-fly missiles fuel.
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>>64687607
>IMHO key step is moving from 2D tracking to spatial reconstruction. Missile should be aware of locked object in 3D space, it's speed, direction, maneuvering capabilities, 3D shape from database or measured during acquisition. Then most counter measures become apparently false allowing missile to track on expected path.
Isn't this already a thing with recent missiles? Very important to implement and immediately makes any flares/chaff and everything that doesn't follow the same trajectory as the jet completely useless.
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>>64687660
>Very important to implement
*easy
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>>64687512
Ukraine showed that GPS rounds are nice and all but you still want laser guided for direct fire support so laser isn't going anywhere.
Also laser is cheaper than fire and forget and military love cheap eqiopment.
Besides some militaries deployed laser guided manpads. Well mostly brits, and brits went full retard(more than once) and decided to make their manpad as MCLOS, so good luck hitting anything and somehow this piece of shit was more expensive than fucking Stinger.
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>>64687660
AFAIK only advanced system ground radar like PAC3 does that. The missile would only receive flight guidance and maybe do simpler terminal tracking. And nothing like it in simpler devices like man-pads. But they absolutely could. If 100$ smartphone with single camera can do 3D measurements there's no reason why 100k missile couldn't distinguish sideways falling fireworks from 20meter long 30Ton chonker moving at Mach speeds. Only greed at expense of western might and lives.
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>>64687703>
>afaik
>there's no reason why 100k missile couldn't distinguish sideways falling fireworks from 20meter long 30Ton chonker moving at Mach speeds.
>Only greed at expense of western might and lives.
>afaik
retard
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>>64687718
>t intellectual laser guidance fanatic from 70s
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Significant advantage in signals, data, cost and inter operability.

I'm building a kind of TOW conversion system for tripod rpg, the rpg has the capacity for massive in flight corrections, which bring its effective range far closer to its rocket motor limit. So that's a massive jump. And probably makes it the cheapest smart munition you'll see this side of dushsmbe.

Its neat because it only signals the rpg at the point there's a course deviation, it just picks up the misses. So the further the range the more likely a miss, the greater the deviation, the better value the correction will be. And the target isn't lazed so doesn't get a warning, and major utility here is where the tripod isn't manned and the correction is just feedback about downrange wind.

I nicknamed it the E-jamsheed.



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