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>>64687720Ah yes I really care about the opinion of a pimple faced teenager in his mom's basement who did 5 minutes of research with AI.
>>64687720What are the theoretical accuracy, speed and range limits of a railgun? A global range railgun in kansas would be true endgame for war.
>>64687720Pretty spot on.>stupid expensive>armed with shit that doesn't exist yet>extremely inefficient VLC to tonnage/cost ratio>one big targetIs Trump actually getting senile?
this is a good idea because with the high-low mix, going higher also means you can go lower and cut out the middle which will save incredible amounts of money and super carriers are on the way out
>>64687802So get rid of Burke III's and only build BBG (X)s and LCS 2.0?
>>64687720Yeah basically this plus the FF(X) means its all over for the USN.
>>64687720>PLAAN vs USN comparison >absolute sausage factory of good-enough middle-income ships being produced in record numbers>USN will be fielding a shitty constabulary "flagship" class, a cold war relic class, and a literal coast guard frigate class against that mass it's fucking over for USN it's really fucking stark when the projected fleet composition is shown side by side like that i'm unironically demoralized by this
The benefit of this is that it puts demand on building larger shipyards or upgrading existing ones. Its a vanity project and a jobs program to reignite US shipbuilding. A VLS spamming battleship requires less personnel than another aircraft carrier and fleet and can be paired with existing fleets as extra firepower.
>>64687916Implessive
>>64687929>Seeing issues with the USN is the same as being a china shillFaggot
>>64687931Yeah, the post anon was replying to is pretty shilly. >Burke >cold war relic class get out.
He misses the point that the Trump class can carry larger sensors which could be a great addition to a fleet if supported by many FFG(x)s
>>64687942>FFG(X)>being part of any grand-battle Its incredible to me, truly astounding, how so many naval enthusiasts have seemingly no idea what a Frigate is and what it gets used for. I suspect its some chang psyop.
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>>64687942by that metric Zumwalt is an astounding success because it can also theoretically carry larger sensors supported by its power plant and is an actual ship that exists physically unlike the Big Beautiful Gay (Sex)
>>64687947Assuming the FF(X) actually functions as a control center for many autonomous or semi-autonomous boats with different functions it could actually function as a Frigate, ie bait + scout. The autonomous vessels are sort of expendable relative to other naval assets, particularly ones which are just a pile a sensors on a hull with a enough power generation to run them. It also needs to be said they any of these autonomous ships can also be added to the order of battle in any fleet which has a command and control center capable of directing them. I suspect that the "frigate program" is more about these hypothetical boats than the frigate itself, its just that they make the frigate viable by existing thus they are part of that program. Also maybe useful to supplement air-based anti-sub patrols.The Chinks are just replicating Monitor Doctrine, French Young Schools, Coastal Defense Battleship doctrine, ect in a new age. Their entire fleet disposition seems to made to rush out to a relatively close island(Formosa) and to try to deny naval access to the region for a short period of time. Will it work? I don't know, maybe. They still have shit for SSNs so they aren't going to be throwing their weight around in blue water for a long time.
>>64687972Zumwalt is actually an incredible capable platform. Retrofit will be required but the hull shape and power generation provide it with lots of potential. If the project had not been mismanaged and cancelled, economies of scale would have made comprehensive retrofits far more feasible. Zumwalt haters are low-brow amateurs.
>>64687947>Frigates not being part of a grand-battleSo what's the plan then? Your aegis capable 7000 ton warships packed with VLS twiddle their thumbs?>>64687972No, it couldn't, but it could be a worthy addition to the fleet if modified to support Burke's and frigates as a C&C centrepiece.
>>64687978>still not getting itSimplest possible terms: USN's problem is that it has to be everywhere all the time. So even though its bigger than China, and will be for another 20 years at current Chinese build rates, it will only be harder and harder to maintain parity with the Chinese in the Pacific. So they need something that can maintain presence in other theaters, and free up Burkes for the Pacific. Hence: FFG(X). No point in having a Burke prowl around the Caribbean when you could just have a frigate do that instead. Its overkill. And if some shit kicks off in the Caribbean (like it is now), you can then surge Burkes to that theater. Tl;Dr: frigates are going to free up destroyers to be used in theaters where you absolutely fucking need destroyers 24/7.
>>64687720Seeing how the design of the stupid thing isn't even set on paper, I doubt this this thing is even going to get the funding for its construction by the time the corpse is out of office.
>>64687942There's only two Constellations being built. Did you somehow miss that program being killed? If you meant FF(X), the Navy is putting LCS level armament on it and it won't have aegis. It's just an overweight, overcrewed LCS. In anycase, a single ship with all the launchers is still fucking stupid because its range is gimped by being far behind. It's also a massive target that destroys a huge part of its group's capability if its hit. Toouh of its tonnage is given over to guns and lasers instead of tubes. It's a retarded idea.
>>64687983>Packed with VLSNot the anon you're replying to but I thought FNAF(X) wasn't getting VLS
>>64687972>aged boomer sees existing naval program and pushes it as a pet project in order to get his name on something a decade down the line>this means something to the projectThe design may or may not be shit, but Trump calling it a battleship because it displaces three times as much as a burke means nothing. Naming conventions are supposed to be based on role rather than displacement, but nobody follows fucking conventions anyway. And presidents changing them is far from unknown, like in the "cruiser crisis".>>64687931We are autists who love boats: and journo faggots bitching about the latest naval procurement "debacle" are as artificial and as based on empty social signaling as any chink posturing. In libtard society you get status by "exposing" something and the navy gets money by hyping up the opposition. In Chink society the budget is set and the priority is to assuage the concerts of the bug hive with positive propaganda.
>>64687740>1st day after /k/ (re)discovers pidgin english
>>64687983>Your aegis capable 7000 ton warships packed with VLS twiddle their thumbs?Constellation and Congress can go play pattycake while doing presence patrols in SOUTHCOM together.
>>64687759Theoretical range is slightly longer than the AGS, but with about a quarter of the explosive charge. It's not particularly useful as a land attack weapon.
>>64687987Throw all niggers and spis out of the country, that two trillion bucks in federal revenue a year right there, throw out all the jews and liquidate their malinvestment bullshit that that's probably about trillion a year and a large immediate windfall. Now you can field as many ships as you please, once again brutal racism is the solution to all problems.
>>64687999We were discussing the FFG(X), then frigates in general. All modern firgates have strongish AAW sensors and VLS cells, I was using the rough spec of the FFG(X) as an example, but I could use the F127 or the Type 26 or the FREMM. No idea what the FNAF(X) is but I assume you mean the FF(X), which won't have a VLS but it isn't a frigate.
>>64688014Thank you Grok
>>64687999FFG(X) was the Constellation class, with 32 VLS. It was canceled, and its replacement was called FF(X), which is fitting because the G is for guided missiles and FF(X) has no VLS.
>>64687987No, itcs problem is that combatant commanders *want* them to be everywhere at once and the CNO has no ability to tell them "We can't support that retarded optempo." The other branches have the same problem, but are better able to absorb it due to mass and rotation. The Navy doesn't have enough ships to do that so they get run ragged and put off critical maintenance (like fixing your surface search radar) to go piddle fuck through the Taiwan Straight in order to back up some 4 stars need to suck up to Washington civilians (and kill a bunch of your own crew in the process).That's not a "too few hulls" problem. It's an ownership and force generation problem. Having more hulls just puts lipstick on it and doesn't actually solve the fundamental issues.
>>64688013>give the country a South Korea style population collapse while solving no problems! That will help!
>>64688035>Solving no problemsIt would solve a few
>>64687764But it‘s BIG, BEAUTIFUL, GOLDEN, STRONG and POWERFUL!!!!Who cares whether it‘s a ship with no purpose? It’s a Potemkin Village thing just like the Wall.
>>64688035Blacks and spics are both net fiscal losses and do not breed at above replacement rates. The only sizable demographic(50M+) which has above replacement fertility in any industrialized nation are right wing whites in America, a population of 150 million which has maintained a birthrate of 2.3 since 1927 without deviation. Only cruel hateful whites who reject modern morality and society are still willing to shit out kids. https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/The nogs and spics do not breed, hell even the sandniggers they import to Europe don't breed after the first generation so even if they weren't massive fiscal losses they'd still be useless. And having people means nothing if they are not productive.
>>64688035>WE NEED a low IQ unproductive workforce that is addicted to committing violent crime
>>64687742hes literally worked in military procurement in the australian military, hes more knowledgeable on that subject than the avarage twitter retard for sure.
>>64687972>by that metric Zumwalt is an astounding succesIt could have been if they didn't blow the budget on railguns instead of larger radar and more VLCs.And would you look at that, orange man fell for the railgun meme again, except on a bigger, less efficient shit, allah praise be upon her help me, I cannot stand the retardation anymore.
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