What could have been done better for these homeowners to defend themselves? Is the fake UPS delivery the go to home invasion method? It seems a bit sketch considering I know the UPS guys that run the route in my area, but I understand that's just anecdotal stuff.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtHxgxpDqhU
Don’t let black people near your home?
>>64691863But what if they have a delivery to make?
>>64691856Delivery people never both get out of the truck, they'll also most of the time have a marked truck. If it's more than one person tell them to leave it. If it's signature required say you'll pick it up at the distribution center. Have a gun accessible, but not in view at your door, don't ever open the door with a gun in hand, that's inviting the terminally terrified cops to shoot you.
Damn guys you ever been to the hood? Steel bar security door outside your regular door. Opens outward so it can't be kicked in. Bars on all windows AND security glass. Get bigger screws on all door hardware. Replace door with steel storm door that ALSO opens outward but the hinges are guarded. Make sure it lags into the floor.Even the piggies wit a ram ain't getting through that shit. Gon need a vehicle pull or hydraulics or a cuttin torch.Also wired cameras because so called delovery drivers got jammers.
We make fun of anti-gun types who refuse to recognize that there are many scenarios in which having a gun is the best means of defending yourself. But at the same time you should realize that against a dedicated and prepared attacker any reasonable home defense will have some form of weakness that can be exploited. Most people won't have unlimited funding to build their house out of level IV plates and have 360 degree thermal cameras synced up to an automated alarm system.
>>64691856If you're defending your house, wouldn't it be a house invasion?
>>64693082Counterpoint, most criminals aren't posessed of infinite patience and resources either.
>>64691856answer the door in a suicide vest I guess
>>64693082>Most people won't have unlimited funding to build their house out of level IV plates and have 360 degree thermal cameras synced up to an automated alarm system
>>64693082The trick is to have more house than they have bullets.
>>64691924Wait until they leave, if the package is for you and requires signing Fedex and UPS both can text / email, and them plus USPS will leave a notice that you weren't around to pick up the package.Never open the door for anyone, get a peep hole, they have cameras in every room, no excuse not to be have a simple ring camera or whatever. Do not trust anyone in general, but especially, ESPECIALLY don't trust non whites, even if you're non white.
>>64693325Wired cameras. Rings can be viewed by law enforcement / the gov any time without a warrant or subpoena. Wired cameras also cannot be jammed with reasonable hardware.
>>64693342this. at this point in time you'd be a moron to think any wi-fi shit is safe just because you set a username and password. wired is the actual future.
>>64693389Don't forget also backup power in case your house's electric is cut. Storage needs to be local and highly secure.
>>64693342Their wired cameras didn't help them, I mean, don't get me wrong, I agree with that, I don't like em, but if it's convenient enough that you'll actually just bust out your phone and fuckin use em, then fuckin use it. And definitely have a peep hole, and definitely don't open the door, or leave your house to approach blacks.
>>64693457>bust out your phonehere's a little advice. you can dedicate a cheap laptop or tablet (pixel tablets can run Graphene OS firmware) for cameras specifically. just have it plugged in and running like it's any other household appliance and HDMI out to a cheap display you can see easily. no need to get your phone and boot up an app to check cameras.
>>64693457That's why defenses have to be layered. You can't stop people forever. Stall them until you or someone else can act, or at least skill gate them by using serious hardware.Steel, outward swinging security doors. Security film plus window bars. Replace all screws with longer ones. Replace cheap wooden doors with security doors. If the perps need to bring an angle grinder or hydraulic jam-spread tools then you've gated like 94% of gangbangers.
>>64693484Neat, nothing to do with what I was going for, these people are spics, they're going to do what's most convenient and just pull out their phone. If that keeps them alive it's better than not, yes your solution is better for people who think normally.>>64693490Yeah, plus these guys were specifically targeted, so ANY weakness will be a huge problem, it won't just deter regular burglars by being a hard target. Of course, ALL of your security fails if you just open the door for them lol.
>>64693500Specific targeting is a problem. That means the perps will likely case the joint first and come prepared. Defenses need to be beefed up further then.Not all steel security doors are the same. If you can get ones that "lag" (bolt) into the floor and the frame, and the frame is beefed, AND you use tougher than usual security bars on the windows you'll have time at least.Most window bars will not withstand a vehicle pull. There are reports on reddit of very high level gangbangers using stolen hydraulic breaching backpacks. One guy won the lottery, talked too much, and had them on his ass. Those are a pain in the dick and will require seriously tough doorframes.
>>64693511>hydraulic breaching backpacksDidn't even know that's a thing, that's dope lol.Seems like step 1 is to be quiet about what you have, step 2 is put in security relative to your money, step 3 is don't fuck over your own security by making bad decisions through complacency.And step 4 is move away from certain demographics, or maybe that's step 1, yeah I take it back, definitely step 1.
>>64691856>yes yees defend your house goy>(just so you can pay more property taxes to le zog)>yes yees defend your wife goys>(just so she can cheat on you with bbc like all white women do)>defend your kids goy>(so they can grow up to be onlyfans models and le zog occupied government puppets)>defend your valuables goy>(just so the inheritance tax can go to le jews in israel)lmaoing @ your zogslave lives trannies
>>64693520Yeah, the hydraulics are used by some metro PDs and feds for breaching heavily reinforced crackhouses. Only steps up from there are breaching shotgun (situational), vehicle pull (situational), exothermic cutting torch, or explosives.1. A certain PD concocted a 150lb (not a typo) four man four handle breaching ram out of two pieces of cut train track. It is very easy to DIY breaching rams using a t post driver or other devices.Also, I read this on plebbit once. Apparently some crackhouse in the secret sub-ghetto inside the regular ghetto had a door frame made out of three welded pieces of train track, with the side pieces six feet into concrete. Security door (bars) followed by big time lagged steel door. Walls were concrete. No accessible windows. Metro SWAT did a raid. Hydraulic breaching kit failed on the door so they had to hit the exothermic torch and it took hours. More than enough time for people inside to escape using viet cong tunnels.
>>64693573that is a made up argument that no one is having
Get a big ass dog so you have backup.
>>64693614The robbers throw in a big juicy slab of meat with correctly-dosed rat poison and then wait twenty minutes to half an hour
>>64693590>secret sub-ghetto inside the regular ghettoThat sounds rad lol.
>>64693622I've trained my dogs not to accept for from strangers or eat food off the ground without an OK command for that exact reason.Also, they're inside during the day so unless the robbers plan on pushing through a hedge of hawthorn, climbing a wall, breaking a window and waiting 30 minutes with the alarms blaring, geese honking and my neighbors getting interested then I think it should be fine.
The modern American house is built cheap as fuck and can be breached in a matter of moments. Watch these fugitive recovery dweebs mulch residential doors with no effort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5cJmzyW2BMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqidJhwTk8o>they don't even need tools for most of these.And then this is a properly designed house with good doors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KI3bIGDxBQNote the cop struggles to kick the exterior door in and has to use a brick. If this were an unlawful situation you've got more than enough time to make ready. Interior door needed a Halligan. This skill gates your average perp because it's a burglary tool in an unlawful context and will result in additional charges, plus a real halligan is usually over $200. Using a halligan properly is also a two man job. Axe plus halligan is your "irons" - heavy irons are halligan and a sledgehammer. Use the tool to drive the halligan and produce more leverage. Use wedges to save progress if you have to re-angle. Probably a good idea to "layer" your defenses even if the perimeter is breached. Construct a saferoom that you and your family can retreat to if you're outmatched or the perps breach your exterior defenses faster than expected (hydraulic breaching cartels or crackhead carlos with an F-450 and a strap got the wrong house or something). Unless you have a serious advantage or get the drop you'll probably lose anything more than a 1v1 against people that kinda know what the fuck they're doing. By the way, body armor is mainstream now, plates included (and plates are cheap as fuck these days) so practice pelvis drills.And here's a really well built door.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET9SNXpeORYIt's an apartment so obviously no dice on a vehicle pull or explosives. Exothermic torch gonna be real dicey and the hinges aren't exposed so a shotgun is a non-starter. GG no re.
>>64693656>geeseThis anon knows security
>>64693622This is something cat owners believe. My dogs would attack someone entering my home before they'd think of accepting food from them. I know because the have.
>>64693686>I know because the have.>???>profit
>>64693622>the rat poison shit againNearly any commercially available rat poison takes a long time to kick in in order for the rats not to realize what's killing them and a dog would need to eat a good amount compared to a rat. It's not just 'fido ate a blue cracker and now he's dead'.
>>64691856>hurricane shutters>hurricane window pane anti-shatter applique>hostile shrubberies in layers, plants that drop material/husks that are noisy/crack>no rocks in front that could be repurposed by hostiles>dogs, preferably a breed with a great nose, a larger guard breed, then a more athletic mid-sized shepherd/Staffie>TILE roofing (arson's the real conundrum)This + longer screws >>64693009
>>64693656Geese & Donkey maxxing ftw.
>>64693742The people they attacked were friends so I wasn't sued, but having aggressive dogs, while safeguarding you and your family, is generally the opposite of profit.
>>64693791I'd sue the fuck out of my friends if their retarded dog bit me lol, that or at least have it killed, fuck that cuck shit.
>>64691856I ain't watching all that, but having a good pocket carry on you at all times, and not living in a place called "coon rapids" for fuck sake might be a good start.
