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>retconned as amazing commander
>actually complete shit
>failed to do even the bare minimum to protect the landing zones in France
>planted like 4 mines
>crews were so poorly trained they did not fire on ships at all with large gun batteries
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By Normandy his heart wasn't in it anymore so he just let it rot. The truly underrated German commander is Dietrich.
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>>64695049
>The truly underrated German commander is Dietrich.
Best at killing PoWs, yeah
What exactly did he accomplish, military-wise? The man was Hitler's driver FFS
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>>64695049
this has to be bait kek
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>>64695049
>Fuck this, I'm going back to Paris to bone my wife
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>>64695049
Best bait when Normandy happened was here.
Just saying.
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>>64695046
sometimes during attacks, he had mozart played over the radio.
one of his officer said in an interview he did this because he wanted his men to keep some humanity during battle. this created grotesque szenes in the carnage of the armored desert war sometimes.
once their column drove thru an ambushed british column with bodies dismembered from artillery fire covering the floor and hanging out of vehicles. This while Papageno from Mozarts Magical Flute sings how he catched alle the girls.
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>>64695046
He punched above his weight in North Africa. But ultimately that front ended up an expensive mistake for Germany. Those men were sorely needed in Ostfront and could have tipped the balance in Germany's favor. Rommel's own grueling and enduring ways would have been good fit there.
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>>64696350
>decades later, his soldiers still get flashbacks whenever they hear the same piece playing on the radio
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>>64695046
He did about what could be done with the resources he was given to prepare in France.

Can't lay mines you don't have. (Also mining beaches has its own problems.) Can't train when you don't have the fucking shells for it.

Though yeah, Rommel was promoted beyond his competence. The man was a fantastic divisional CO, a good corps commander and then dropped off when it came to handling things on a larger scale than that.
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>>64696386
Or they'd have been engaged elsewhere by the freed up British forces from Africa
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Firearms? Had enough co cock sucking in the Marines to last me for life
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>>64696386
That's cope. A couple motorized and tank divisions wouldn't have tipped the balance on the eastern front, and the Italians collapsing wholesale in North Africa much earlier would have freed up a disproportional amount of british resources for other operations to fuck with the Germans. Perhaps even an early invasion of Sicily or Italy.
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>>64696442
Engaged where? Brits could not touch mainland Europe. It was made a fortress by Germany. Guess they could send more men to Greece but that was secondary in importance for everyone involved but Churchill.
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>>64696456
>Brits could not touch mainland Europe
While being busy in North Africa and the Med, yes. That's the point.

>It was made a fortress by Germany.
LMAO, no. Even the rickety Atlantikwall of 1944 was very much a relatively new thing then. In 41-42 most of it flatly didn't exist yet.
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>>64696454
>Perhaps even an early invasion of Sicily or Italy.
The invasion of Italy, even with America arriving to do the heavy lifting, was an Allied failure. Italy should never have been struck. Churchill was wrong. It wasn't the soft underbelly of Europe. The Allied losses were catastrophic and Italy's fall did not remedy the need of invading France from the sea.
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>>64695046
Rommel wasn't fantastic, he just wasn't as pro-Hitler as many others, so that led to him being mythologised by the post-war/occupational governments. I have no doubt he wasn't even the best Afrika Korps commander.
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>>64695046
Guderian was the only genius in the Wehrmacht. In fact, if it wasn't for him openly disobeying orders and forcing the hand of his superiors, the Ardennes offensive wouldn't have worked at all.

He was a scumbag, but he had the touch of brilliance few others possessed. The rest of them are overrated, including Rommel.
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>Nevertheless, there is also a notable number of officers who admire his methods, like Norman Schwarzkopf who described Rommel as a genius at battles of movement, saying: "Look at Rommel. Look at North Africa, the Arab-Israeli wars, and all the rest of them. A war in the desert is a war of mobility and lethality. It's not a war where straight lines are drawn in the sand and [you] say, 'I will defend here or die."[170][171] Ariel Sharon deemed the German military model used by Rommel to be superior to the British model used by Montgomery.[172] His compatriot Moshe Dayan likewise was known to admire and study Rommel.[173][174] Wesley Clark states that "Rommel's military reputation, though, has lived on, and still sets the standard for a style of daring, charismatic leadership to which most officers aspire."[175] During the recent desert wars, Rommel's military theories and experiences attracted great interest from policymakers and military instructors.[176][177] Chinese military leader Sun Li-jen had the laudatory nickname "Rommel of the East".[178]
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>>64696519
>if it wasn't for him openly disobeying orders and forcing the hand of his superiors
any Prussian officer would do this. insubordination welcome as long as you win.
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>>64696350
What a stupid fucking idea. What was he thinking??



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