Why is US building 12 SM-3 missiles per year?>inb4 BMD is uselessEven krauts are buying such systems.
>>64699142Uhh.... pic not related?
>>64699142They don't actually expect to need more than that.
>>64699150I find it beautiful. It's from Challenger 2 I believe.
>>64699151They are going to throw SM-6 at chinese ballistic missiles?
>>64699163Despite what General Dynamics press releases might say, the chances of an actual shooting war between the US and PRC are pretty remote. The idea that the PRC is going to risk blowing up the world economy to take over Taiwan seems dubious at best.
>>64699142I think they're ramping up to around 48 and it will probably go up from there.
>>64699178>The idea that the PRC is going to risk blowing up the world economy to take over Taiwan seems dubious at best.Eh... I think they(see Xi) are at serious risk of misculating how much the region and globe cares about Taiwan.
>>64699178Ahhh tell that to history.>>64699188Latest news is that they are hoping for 36 per year sometime in the future.
>>64699189They read the same global processor foundry market-share figures everyone else does. It's obvious they'd like to take Taiwan at some point, but they're not going to risk everything by fighting the US to do so. Until the match-up vs US & Co. solidly favors them, they will do as much as needed to ensure Taiwan never fully becomes independent, as that would make it much harder for them to justify the island's independence.
>>64699178>dubiousDepends. If Xi surrounded himself with a bunch of yes men, it's gonna happen. The power of an echo chamber really fucks with people's perception.
>>64699239>You let an echo chamber talk you into a major war?
>>64699178>leaders are rational and economic ties prevent wars
>>64699277He probably thought he could do another Crimea. Swoop inTake over before anyone could reactGloat about it after it's all overExcept he overextended plus trying the same trick
>>64699213>>64699239The PRC must import massive quantities of raw materials and exporting huge quantities of finished goods for society to function. It is utterly dependent on gulf oil and foreign foodstuffs. The state maintains some stockpiles, but these can only provide a tiny fraction of national consumption (the crude reserve is thought to be three-hundred million barrels while annual consumption is about six billion). Critically, the PRC doesn't have the power-projection capabilities to defend its high seas trade routes. In the event of conflict with the US, the USN will quickly mop up the PRC's Indian ocean and Pacific outposts and Chinese society will collapse as USAF bombers JDAM any merchantmen going anywhere near a chink-friendly port. This would obviously fuck up the global economy but the US can still feed itself and keep the lights on by itself and will be able to conduct some oceanic commerce despite nontrivial losses from PRC sea babies.
>>64699358it's going to be surreal looking back on posts like this in a few years when china inevitably captures taiwan
>>64699370>inevitablyIt's not impossible, but it's not going to be easy.
>>64699370Considering China can't even deal with the border spat with India, I doubt they're willing to go into a full shooting war over Taiwan.
>>64699358Countries have coped with even worse scenarios before.
>>64699157T72, of some type
>>64699178>dictatorships are rational>communist dictatorships are rational>asiatic communist dictatorships are rational
>>64699381why would they enter a shooting war over taiwan? they're just going to encircle it until they capitulate
>>64699413Then sanctions will be enacted.
>>64699370>>64699351The PRC could doubtless successfully invade and occupy Taiwan today, albeit while taking horrific losses. They could also certainly destroy a US+Japanese+Korean fleet operating close to the Chinese mainland. But those capabilities are ultimately pointless of the PRC can't import oil or basedbeans for a year. There's a reason the PRC is building carriers and trying to reduce its oil dependence. Xi knows he can't actually fight the US unless the PRC can meaningfully challenge for control of critical sea lanes. Until the PRC is in a position to do this, they have to play the waiting game and ensure the ROC doesn't get nukes in the meantime.
>>64699413 Encircle? No. They'll play the long game and take over peacefully within a few generations.
>>64699413What are China's anti-torpedo systems like?
>>64699438Aren't the younger generations more pro-independence?
>>64699427yeah? you mean like the ones that the US enacted recently? how'd that work out?>>64699437you're right about the waiting game the longer china waits, the better the odds are in its favour>>64699438the chinese government doesn't like to sit on their arses twiddling their thumbsthey're proactive, highly capable and ideologically lethalif they set their eyes on something, they turn all of their efforts towards it
>>64699458Sanctions can get a lot worse than barring you from high end graphics cards.
>>64699451Taiwan declaring independence would be a MAJOR political embarrassment for the PRC, maybe even one worth going to war over. But it doesn't really change the de-facto situation. The PRC doesn't want the island for strictly practical reasons, it's more about re-taking all the old imperial territories previously held by the Growrirus Midder Kingdom so they can have The Mandrate of Heaven or something.
>>64699458>they're proactive, highly capable and ideologically lethallol
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>>64699458>they're proactive, highly capable and ideologically lethalExplain why the one-child policy was actually a good idea. Hardmode: Justify keeping in until 2015
>>64699479talking about it objectively, the chinese government today is the most effective in the world at finding, fixing and accomplishing objectives in relation to the lifting up of their societyyou disagree? which other country has a more capable government? don't tell me you're going to say the kike dick slurper that is the US government don't make me laugh, anonthe chinese has defeated the US in every single category you can think of - industrial, political, espionage, everythingtheir capture of taiwan is just going to be the coup de grace
>>64699537Its easy when you redefine things like poverty then congratulate yourself for lowering poverty.
>>64699370The Chinese knew their navy wasn't even enough to sail near the houthis. Taiwan is much harder.
>>64699163...Yes, SM-6 has been tested and confirmed to be capable of intercepting up to eMRBM class missiles. Furthermore, they're making an SM-6 with a 21-inch booster stack, like the SM-3 block IIa.>During the test, conducted off the coast of the Pacific Missile Range Facility at Kauai, USS Pinckney [DDG 91] demonstrated the ability to detect, track and engage an advanced maneuvering hypersonic target with the Sea Based Terminal (SBT) Increment 3 capability embedded in the latest Aegis software baseline.>The tracking exercise included firing a simulated SM-6 upgraded missile at the target. The target was an air-launched MRBM with a Hypersonic Target Vehicle (HTV)-1 front end. This target is engineered to allow testing and defeat of a variety of hypersonic threats.>FTX-40 also provided a data collection opportunity for the Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor (HBTSS) demonstration satellite.https://www.mda.mil/news/25news0002.html
>>64699537>the chinese has defeated the US in every single category you can think of - industrial, political, espionage, everythingus hegemony collapse in two weeks xinsters
>>64699142>US army to receive 37 THAAD interceptors in 2026what le fuck?
>>64699972It's Dennis, the impotent, pathetic sub-human Roblox headed mentally ill alcoholic serboid mutt that lives on welfare in Germany because he's a pathetic mentally ill incel failure at life. And somehow, that's the US' fault for him being a mentally ill alcoholic parasitic mutt failure at life. So, he constantly seethes about the US, blaming his own failures and lack of success in life on the US so he doesn't have to admit it's his own fault and take responsibility for being a mentally ill alcoholic leeching incel loser. Much easier to blame his own failures in life on an all powerful outside entity (the US in this case) that he has no power over instead of admitting the truth in that all his life's problems are self-made and caused by him - and only him. That way, he can absolve himself of all responsibility for his life like all delusional losers do instead of facing reality and actually changing their lives, because taking responsibility is hard. He shills for the CCP that think he's a sub-human loser beneath a dog that belongs in a grave or gulag because he thinks that somehow gets back at the US. He's nothing but a weak, pathetic, worthless loser that will never be anything and lives online in a fantasy world to cope with him being a pumpkin headed mentally ill incel loser mutt. He's honestly fucking pathetic.
>>64699972what US hegemony? their military dominance is rapidly being eaten away and their soft culture is almost nonexistent at this pointeverybody under the age of 30 mostly consumes east asian/european media
>>64699178>le calculus and le logichmmmmmmmm
>>64700257>and their soft culture is rapidly being eaten away at this point>he says, as he posts on an american forum>while speaking english>while using english phrasesi'm a euro and your complete disconnect from reality is funny af my man.
>>64700229That's all they ordered. They can produce 100+/year, so, that's not the cause. The cause is low probability of having to intercept massive MRBM/IRBM salvos.https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/2025/08/18/the-urgent-need-to-procure-more-thaad-interceptors/
>>64700256he recently made the switch to being a shill for china because even he realized how pathetic of a failure russia is at this point.you can still occasionally see him seething about russian embarrassments, but he's fully shifted his hopes to china as the next big le counterweight to the US that will defeat le US hegemony.many disenfranchised unaccomplished losers are making the switch from russia to china as their favourite contrarian hero country.maybe when china shits the bed, they'll go for brazil next.
>>64700270>he realized how pathetic of a failure russia is at this point.They have much in common with our resident balloon headed mongoloid.
>>64700263You just know he can quote fucking marvel movies word for word
Neither THAAD nor SM-6 really provide any value.The idea with both was to shoot down incoming ballistics.The problem is even under idea test conditions, the hit ratios are very poor.Then decoys became widespread, which is basically game over for ballistic intercepts.Now hypersonics appeared, for which there is zero defence, so why buy more missiles which have no utility.
>>64699178>dont worry guys, there's no way this aggressive, expansionist imperial construct would use a moment of weakness for the largest global exporter of security as an opportunity to expand
>>64700373>aggressive, expansionist imperial constructWhere and when does China even remotely fit these descriptions?
>>64699471There is a regime security reason too.If the CCPs grip over chinese politics ever weakens, having a functioning chinese democracy within example providing distance could absolutely prove fatal for the party and its membersThis is also one of the reasons Putin went into Ukraine
>>64699537The Australian government is more capable and functional than the mainland chinese government and achieves this without stomping on the necks of its own people, this is why so many chinese want to leave China and live in Australia instead
>>64700378China has spent its literally its entire history waging wars of expansion against its neighbour and is also non democratic, making it irrecoverably hostile to civilisation as the existence of a stable democracy anywhere on earth poses an internal security threat to its ruling regime
>>64700402>China has spent its literally its entire history waging wars of expansion against its neighbourSuch as?
