What modern day tech could be deployed for supporting a large scale amphibious invasion that the allies didn't have back in WW2?
Why are you so butthurt, chinky?
It would be a lot more violentgetting a bit sick of the barely-veiled chinkshill threads though
It would be more implessive
All those ships are just gonna get droned.Chinkys have learned nothing from the Russian misadventure in Ukraine or this shit is just Iranians type propaganda with no intention to actually be used in combatBecause of modern missiles/drone Russia lost a cruiser, 2 corvettes, 2 submarines, a landing ship, and like 30 other naval craft to a country with no navy. China needs to take note and understand that these ships are all just slow moving targets
>>64701509Yeahhttps://youtu.be/37qDHY9b6Lk
>>64701509Precision missiles would allow ships to continue supporting infantry that was much further inland than conventional guns could trach, as well as being able to soften defenses more quickly.
>>64701509Why are chinamen so transparently pathetic? Lack of intelligence or result of living in a police state?
>>64701583>Gets raped by SSNs
>>64701596imagine if your only father figure was a servile piss poor chinaman, or some fat communist bureaucrat
Temu D-Day would be hilarious.
>>64701568Since 2000 Russia didn't build a single destroyer.Since 2000 China commissioned 40 destroyers.Russian Navy runs on fumes of the USSR and has no recources end competence to build naval things. Cruiser Moscow (The Slava class) failed in USSR trials again sea skimming missiles. Nothing changed since 80s. Slava class failed exercises against sea skimming missiles in Russia too. And 30 years after USSR fail Russia yet to deliver working naval long range SAM.
>>64701583On the other side, anti ship missiles would make any landing operation a suicide run.
>>64701661>On the other side, anti ship missiles would make any landing operation a suicid...ACK!
>>64701665Single digit number of missiles anon.
>>64701665It's scary how close the British were to getting hurt bad. I don't want to say lose because Thatcher would have fought as long as she was PM. But they were close to losing to a bunch of Hispanicized Italians thanks to Cold War level missiles.
>>64701665The British had ships that should’ve been lost to dumb bombs from A-4s, and only weren’t because the Argentinians didn’t set the fuses on their bombs right. Shit has gotten a lot scarier for ships since then
>>64701596>Why are chinamen so transparently pathetic? Lack of intelligence or result of living in a police state?It's a didactic, quasi-official sort of tone that comes from living in an Orwellian technosphere police state. It's, like, framed as objective but always loops back around to the narrative that they've already won and that the adversary has already collapsed. You can get the tone and posture from this at any rate:https://youtu.be/0NaOv_BFD7c
>>64701665https://youtu.be/6ikxzT0Kh2c?t=313
>>64701509how would chinese command incompetence caused by nepotism and ingrained cultural weaknesses affect a potential amphibious invasion of taiwan?
>>64701665>missiles didn't stop an amphibious invasion>in WW2WOAH DUDE
>>64701800>3 chinks at a table free-associating about how implessive their shit islol, that's funny af.
Also notice the historical telescoping in the OP. They will jump like that to present an invasion of Taiwan as inevitable. There is No Alternative because it's History and capital-H History has proven that amphibious assaults work so a Chink invasion of Taiwan is just that + upgrades. It's inevitable do not resist:https://youtu.be/GPII9cfFe34OP is also probably PLA psyop-type propaganda that was rolled out as part of this military exercise they're doing.
>>64701822yep, chinkshills will be harrowed to learn this but in the modern era amphibious invasions against an opponent with long range PGM's, allies that can see you coming from months in advance, and very very few places where you can actually make landfall makes it near impossible.in WW2 D-day was already pretty much a miracle, with skillfull execution, deception, a massive logistical system, huge firepower, a long coastline with many potential landing areas, meaning the enemy had to spread his forces, and a nice big dollop of luck, it still almost didn't work.with the intel gathering of today, the invasion would be seen coming from months in advance and these fucking stupid landing barges that chinkshills keep posting would get annihalated 60 miles from shore.
>>64701568Aren't the mainlanders just gonna destroy all drone and missile facilities on the island before launching the invasion? It's not WW2 where you'd just have battleships and bombers lobbing explosives in the general direction of the defenders for a few days before the assault. I imagine even temu missiles are quite accurate.
>>64701822Deny the Thucydides Trap at your peril.
>>64701833they'd have to get them through all the forests and giant mountain complexes they're hidden inside.it is really underappreciated just how hard taiwan's natural terrain fucks with any attempted invasion or even declawing of taiwan, it's iwo-jima on steroids.
>>64701835Not denying that, just saying these things are really unpredictable at the end of the day. In reality the bugs have no idea how will it go. It used to be the case that it would obviously not work, and now there's uncertainty about it which is dangerous, but they are not certain they'll succeed and there are many ways to increase that uncertainty.
>>64701509
>>64701665People pretend that ships like the Burke weren't a direct response to how badly the Bongs got beat about by a modest air force.
>>64701868Burke's similar predcessor - Ticonderoga cruiser - was already being trialed by the time bongs were doing Falklands.
>>64701568>dronedLMAO, warships out of harbor are the least "dronable" thing on the planet other than submarines.
>>64701602In the shallow waters of the strait? The ones that are effectively suicide for SSNs to operate in?
>>64701890indeed, they would just get hit with missiles and torpedo's.
>>64701892for chinese subs? yes.
>>64701892SSN or SSK, changs are going to be raped either way.
>>64701740So it's not just existence of missiles but having "enough"? How much is enough? It's literally all wars since stone age.>send enough Gruks with clubs
>>64701509D-Day wasn’t the first major opposed landing. Tarawa was. That’s not a comparison they like to draw, because Tarawa was a relatively bloodier affair that accomplished a lot less. It’s notable that the debate in 1944 was between invading Formosa or the Philippines, with the latter winning in no small part because the former’s geography made it so much harder to crack. Technological advances have also made the opposed landing far harder than it was 70 years ago, when it was already a tenable proposition. Food for thought.
>>64701910no, not having "enough" it's about having "good ones"today's missiles are so much more accurate and capable. but both the defenders and the attackers have them, and the defenders are holed up in forests and mountain complexes, while the attackers are peaking out above the waves in the open air.
>>64701832>and these fucking stupid landing barges that chinkshills keep posting would get annihalated 60 miles from shore.Why weren't The Mulberry harbours annihilated 60 miles from shore during d day?
>>64701913>today's missiles are so much more accurate and capableBoth way . There are SAMs you know. See Ukrianian war, aircraft simply don't cross frontlines now.During Normandy landings despite Allies having "air superiority" German strike aircrafts actually penetrated allies air defenses and bombed The Mulberry harbours (but didn't do enough damage).
>>64701914Did PGMs exist in ww2 you retarded chink?
>>64701918Did SAMs?
>>64701914>why weren't they annihalated in an era with far worse intelligence gathering, worse aircraft ranges, worse target acquisition and basically no PGM's, while the allies had air-superiority basically everywhere.gee anon, i fucking wonder why. any gathering invasion force would be detected at least weeks in advance, if not earlier, the moment those barges start moving too close to taiwan when intelligence indicates china is ready to really attack, they're all getting sunk by PGM's.
>>64701919>SAMs>Over Taiwanese airspaceThey're really not sending their best.
>>64701914There were no AShMs back in the day where the grandmas of wumao bugmen were bedrolls for the Japanese army.
>>64701914>gaza pierdamn you seem upset about something lmao, you're a contrarian, aren't you?
>>64701922do not speak of japanese granddad, you might attract the fearsome rapechink.
>>64701835Assume china's rise is guaranteed and not in fact trending downwards at your peril
>>64701926shh you'll scare him off
>>64701927*Imploding downwards
>>64701665>5 Exocets total>half entire received total did severe damagewow, you sure showed him
>>64701665According to the chinkshill ASMs are simultaneously super duper wonder weapons impervious to the decadent wect while saying this shit
>>64701947>those retail salesholy crap lol, china is going to fill landfill after landfill with unsold chinese crap.
>>64701509>What modern day tech could be deployed for supporting a large scale amphibious invasion that the allies didn't have back in WW2?Something like picrelLook into the USMC landing in Kuwait City that never happened.It wasn't really intended because it would have been high risk and low reward, it was a viable feint though and tied up significant Iraqi forces to counter it which allowed the rest of the marines to encircle and siege Kuwait City while hanging back for arab forces, led by Kuwaiti forces, to officially liberate it. Much the same as with Paris fifty years before.https://www.usmcu.edu/Outreach/Marine-Corps-University-Press/MCH/Marine-Corps-History-Winter-2017-v3n2/Shattered-Amphibious-Dreams/
>>64701947>property investmentif they can also stop investing in australian property I'd appreciate it, the market is rough
>>64701986>holy crap lol, china is going to fill African landfill after African landfill with discounted chinese crap.FTFYIn Guangzhou, there's something of an anti-immigration backlash because there's loads of African traders who overstay visas illegally to run trading offices and ship stuff back home.I've seen signs on shops saying that no foreigners are allowed in without proving legal residence, stuff like that.Getting Chinese PR and citizenship isn't for the faint-hearted but it is doable and most of the people that apply for it are Africans or Eurasian 'stanians.China has a significant market in the third world and has been working on pivoting to there for decades now.
>>64702002>use your declining industry to attempt to flood the market with cheap shit and push into EU and NA markets>nobody wants it and it all gets bought for bargain bin prices by africans insteadkek
>>64702008I think they just think that the thirdies won't make any fuss about Uyghur slave labour and shit and there's very little competition for that market because the west doesn't make anything cheap enough to sell there.
>>64701986Xi has been begging for consumers to step up since 2015 and they hilariously refuse to because they're terrified. What's not included in this chart is while industrial production is up, the margins which were already razor thin have collapsed by 14% precisely because >>64702002 Africans and thirdies are piss poor.
>>64702038yep, and this is with a bunch of subsidies on all this industry, which they accuse the west of doing, but do way more of themselves.
>>64702144The plan is to hook the third world onto chinkshit even if it hemorrhages money. Problem is:1. Thirdies don't consume, they use shit till the wheels fall off. They also don't have money in general. Over 50% of BRI loans have not been paid back in time, many indefinitely deferred.2. The US can just outbid any claims such as with Brazilian REE mines and Indonesian processed minerals3. The economy is so fucking incinerated with zero legroom for any more debt that their 5-year plan has zero chance of actually playing out before they implode themselves. They announced a 'stimulus' using ultra long term bonds today ...which was 0.08% of GDP and only affected suppy-side buybacks.
>>64701815I wonder what the captains of those ships felt like when they klonged together?
>>64702183they came a little from the vibrations of the impact.
>>64702002>In Guangzhou, there's something of an anti-immigration backlash because there's loads of African traders who overstay visas illegally to run trading offices and ship stuff back home.>I've seen signs on shops saying that no foreigners are allowed in without proving legal residence, stuff like that.keyedif that happened in america, the locals would kneel for the criminals and fight the government to keep them in the country
>>64702280mindbroken>keyedretarded forced meme peddled by mentally ill contrarian zoomers lol
