Why do third world shitholes rely on centralized defense that can crumble in 3 JDAM strikes and not on decentralized massive militia (paramilitary/national guard) network equiped with smart ammo like Ukraine in 2021?
bigass SAM systems look better in a parade than a bunch of guys with iglas
>>64710330Harder to control decentralized militia. There's a much greater risk of that massive militia turning their guns against you, especially if you're a shit ass dictator.
>>64710330Same reason every brown nation falls, they don't care, there is no sense of national unity outside of soccer, once the game ends the killing begins. It's better to just keep your head down, survive, fuck and have kids because that's what God wants, and then die early because your genetics suck and you ate a diet of beans, cheese, grease and tortillas your entire life.
>>64710330Infantry is incredibly high maintenance. You can't just leave them unattended I a warehouse 9 months a year.
>>64710330Because:1) generally the usual opponents of third world shitholes are shitass militias, insurgents, or rebels who have 0 in the way of air power. They usually buy AA not to fight these shitass militias, but to scare the air forces of the other neighboring shitholes into not attacking them if they ever beef with one another.Also, it is only EXTREMELY recently that MANPADs are easily available as this time there's more countries makin them instead of 2 Superpowers who hoard Man portable AA as patronage leverages.2) Some shitholes only have decentralized militias who are so disorganized that they can't do shit at all and are mostly fighting each other.
>>64710342Maduro regime has a national guard that is supposed to protect his power from the army or foreign invaders, why didnt he equip them with "cheap" chinese manpads or drones?
>>64710330Because their equipment and doctrine is a generation or two behind, from an era before such weapons and tactics were available.
>>64710330To keep their military loyal to the central government
>>64710330I don't think you guys have any idea of how much of a failed state Venezuela is. They can't afford anything. Everything they have is for show (intimidating the locals).
>>64710377As I understand it, Maduro expected a Iraq War II style conflict. He expected to end up fighting in an insurgency.He did NOT expect to simply be grabbed and taken off.
>>64710450That's what he wanted the Americans to think.He expected Trump to chicken out because of American public opinion. Promising another Vietnam is part of that.But he knew he was fucked in an actual war.
>>64710330The same reason they remain poor forever, it's political.The leader of the third world shithole is an ass hole nobody likes so he has to delegate power as little as possible and maintain a careful balance between the different institution, otherwise people would get ideas.He cannot let his people independence to do business, otherwise they'd get ideas.He cannot let small groups of people in the military have control over too much firepower, otherwise they'd get ideas again.Keep in mind that this is as inefficient as it sounds, but the alternative is risking to lose power. So their armies and economies remain terrible on purpose.
>>64710348Hispanics are long-lived anon. In the USA they outlive whites.
>>64710342This pretty much.There’s a reason why democracy started to come into vogue around the invention of the musket.(Cause if you don’t let them vote with paper, people will vote with bullets instead.)
>>64710330MANPADS would have served the Venezuelans more than those outdated SAM batteries...
>>64710464>>64710450So you're saying Maduro was not a warmongering narco-terrorist that the American media described him as so they could legitimize a war on Venezuela?
>>64710330Some do both but you need to go boots on ground to find out.You could bomb Afghanistan for a decade and they couldn't do shit to stop you but launch an invasion and you find out.
>>64710518>war on VenezuelaWhat war?
>>64710518You can be a threat to regional stability without being a warmonger. For instance, having 1/4th of your countries population fleeing as refugees, having your generals engage in drug traffic, being chummy with Russia and Iran shadow fleets, etc.Successive American administrations allowed them to get away with all of this so they imagined that was the new normal and nobody was going to do shit.
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>>64710450Why didnt he have his own bunkerized villa equiped with manpads and kill zones like bin laden or gaddafi? These guys saw what happened to Noriega and took notes.
>>64710518If the US was serious about stopping the drug problem, they'd address the source of the problem. Addiction. The dirty little secret noone wants to tell you is that it's cheaper to do these little bullshit wars than it is to invest into the care/infrastructure in order to combat it. On top of that, Americans LOVE drugs. You'll have one President's son call out another President's son for smoking crack, and still do a keybump. Drugs are what makes America go round. Everyone needs thier coffee/caffeine in the morning to wake up. They need a joint/ciggy for lunch, and booze for dinner and a night cap.
>>64710538>removing battle namesWeak.
>>64710534So the solution to a refugee/drug problem country is to destabilize it. Cool.
>>64710576>walks up to a house fire>turns off the lit flamethrower>"OH YEAH, LIKE THAT'S GONNA STOP THE FIRE"Not my problem, at least it can't be used to light another house on fire.
>>64710576Something has to be stable in order to be destabilized.
>>64710450>He did NOT expect to simply be grabbed and taken offSaddam did and so it took an Iraq War for him to be dragged out of hiding.
>>64710342Yankoid Gun Debate rhetoric frankly has no idea how tyrannies actually work. Paramilitaries & militias are a key component to many authoritarian regimes, especially in poor-ass dictatorships who can't afford a big military. They basically help you keep the rest of the population in line while mobilizing a sizable chunk of it to serve authoritarian interests as military auxiliaries. In addition being Paramilitary ropes in a large number of people to feel that they are part of the ruling power.Competent & confident authoritarian regimes are those whose militias had complete loyalty to the regime & could be trusted to defend it, like what happened in Maoist China or Communist Vietnam. In Maduro's case we simply see a militia that exists to police its own people, not so much to participate in its military defense.
Yeah Manpads work great against helis, Cruise missiles and infantry but how are you supposed to use them on planes?
>>64710626SOVL desu
>>64710583Ring me when you're wailing about more refugees from an imploding country.
>>64710635Shan't be taking them. Your problem, thirdie.
>>64710510Uhhh...huh lol.>>64710519Holy shit that made you angry as fuck, good.
>>64710330Dictatorships need to centralize power as much as possible. If you've got a bunch of local militias you run the risk of those militias rebelling. It's one of the reasons why so many developed countries are democracies.
>>64710692Tell that to every single communist country with tons of militias...>Heh but they fell apart after like 40 years of repression.
>>64710330>Why do third world shitholes rely on centralized defense that can crumble in 3 JDAM strikes and not on decentralized massive militia (paramilitary/national guard) network equiped with smart ammo like Ukraine in 2021?because disctatorships militaries are primarily designed for war against their own civilians
>>64710635I can smell your brown stench
>>64710360>Infantry>You can't just leave them unattendedProbably not even for nine minutes.
>>64710708You mean the ones that had to put down a rebellion every 10 years?
>>64710692garbage militias that are politically alligned are a core component of dictatorships and tyrannies see the red guards, paramilitary goon squads groups that act death squads and enforce vililange capital punishment are the first step for anti democratic movements and neo marxist terrorist groups
>>64710330I mean, Venezuela actually relied on manpad spam than it's big iron SAMs.They even made a big thing of showing the t shirt militia guys with them.For larger systems they had 2 S-300 and like 8 buks and allegedly a lot more Pechora of dubious readiness for what they're worth.
>>64710635>Ring me when you're wailing about more refugees from an imploding country.readhttps://www.google.com/search?q=russian+hybrid+warfare+mass+immigration+e
>>64710800And these militias are usually armed with the bare minimum in case they get ideas and decide the current leaders aren't fanatic enough.
>>64710635>Trump’s 4D chess move predicted this and gave power to ICE preemptively to stop the wave of refugees coming across the borderI don’t think it was planned out this way,but the policy set in place now is set up to prevent that from happening. Just a happy little coincidence. Also, >>64710809 is right, Russia has been doing this since 2014 at least to stir up shit in the EU, while their East German lackeys helped smear shit all over the coalition. Jokes on them, they just had to let the EU be the EU and it would have been a lot cheaper. Same with Ukraine.
>>64710519>plebbit spacing YHTGB
>>64710689Life expectancy at birth:Puerto Rico 82.08Germany 81.71UK 81.6USA 79.61
>>64710576>passive aggressive seethe postI can see the steam coming out of your ears lmao try not to blow a gasket
>>64710708Most communist countries quickly switch to security and intelligence services to cement their power. Any remaining militias exist as a second-order apparatus to reward loyalists with secondary income/gifts and reduce operational burdens on the primary power enforcement mechanism.
>>64710330Militaries in third world countries exist to protect the regime, they never have a powerful centralized figure because that guy would just displace the current dictator to become the new dictator.
>>64711745Puerto Rico is also a popular place to retire to for more well-off boomers, I wouldn't be surprised if that nudges that number up
>>64710330>Why do third world shitholes rely on centralized defense that can crumble in 3 JDAM strikes and not on decentralized massive militia (paramilitary/national guard) network equiped with smart ammo like Ukraine in 2021?Because their populace doesn't particularly care for the government.
