Huh. Cuba has MiG-29's.
>>64711653What little air force they have is made up of entirely by soviet hand me downs.
>>64711653They were slated to have the largest Mig fleet this side of the Atlantic but the deal fell through with the soviet collapse. AFAIK none of them are operational
>>64711789How'd that come about under Gorbachev?
>>64711653i don't think they fly much.
>>64711653Cuba's military is even worse than Venezuela's as unbelievable as that is.
>>64713792They've been siding with brownoids and niggers for a while now to epicly btfo AmeriKKKa and the west(And you are lynching Negroes whataboutism propaganda from the 1930s).
>>64713792Brother peoples.
Think their most noticeable accomplishment of late was shooting down a leaflet dropping light aircraft.
>>64711653Their Air Force has a cool fin flash. But reading about their inventory, I think they have like single digit operational jets. And those are old MiG 21 and 23s. >>64713800Other than a few parades and whatnot, no branch of their military does anything. They have 1,000+ tanks (numbers comprised heavily of T-55) on paper but who knows what their readiness is. Cuba's one of those countries I never think much about, suppose it would be interesting to visit someday. When there was a diplomatic opening in the past, cameras showed a lot of old American cars.
Do they have the kerosene to fly them?
>>64716510I was gonna say Cuba's domestic airline still allows smoking but I was wrong, they banned it back in 2014
>>64716510The 23's are out of service, they're a maintenance nightmare compared to the 29 or the 21.The only thing flying are a pair of L-39's, a handful of MiG-21's and helicopters, and some dilapidated cargo aircraft with no real drone threat - and the Chinese aren't interested as Cuba doesn't have shit worth exploiting and they aren't interested with international communismWe should just end this commie farce in Cuba once and for all
>>64716529Bay of Pigs 2 : Electric Boogaloo would be an easy enough prospect. Perhaps in 2029?
>>64711653The Cuban air force gives Tom Cooper something to masturbate over.
>>64716529I didn't think the 23s were still up. Not many parts of the world still use them, the largest user was Syria and even those were seen less and less. North Korea has barely shown theirs either. Not great planes, but I think they're neat.
>>64716529>>64716549At this point the Cuban govt. is so weak that the embargo could be lifted and everyone would be pretty happy. Just do some diplomatic missions to smooth out past grievances, accept both sides were wrong at points, and shake hands for a better future. Cubans get to have an actual economy, and visitors get somewhere new to invest in. Also keeps China from trying to do what the USSR did.
>>64716529Cubans need to be the ones doing that without us or the CIA, otherwise you get the exact situation in Afghanistan where the commies and Islamists are the patriots fighting off a foreign power
>>64716510>960 T-55A>140 T-55M/AM>400 T-62MA lot of those T-55A have probably either rusted or been sold or parted out.The funds dried up after the big bad soviet uncle died, they've been barely scraping along on cigars and tourism since and you just KNOW they didnt have the money for upgrade programs.>250 2P26 "Swatter" and 2P27 "Fleyta" ATGMV Vehicles - less than fucking worthless esp. if they haven't been modified to use modern Sagger's from China (later HJ-73) or Serbia.Best case is a 70's era SACLOS AT-3CRussia's last Sagger variant was post soviet, SACLOS, tandem or thermobaric>40 9P133Again see above, AT-3C at bestRPG-29 is the biggest AT threat they have>200 BMP-1lol.Considering they rarely used these in the limited combat they had in Angola there's no way they did anything smart with them like mount extra armor, fill the door tanks with sand, and rip out the autoloader>150 BTR-152>200 BTR-50>400 BTR-60No autocannonsThe only thing they have going is a large amount of towed artillery, self propelled they have 20 2S1 and 40 2S3 and a slew of improv vehicles using either T-43, T-55, or other soviet hulls mounting either D-30, M-46, or ww2 trash.They also have a large amount of BM-21.Cuba doesn't exactly have operational depth to make long use of it's vast arrayed towed artillery, or esp. to relocate them, so they're going to be one and done targets. The self propelled stuff could at least duck into the woods in theory to avoid a hellfire>boatloads of ww2 and 50's/60's era Soviet Anti tank gunsThese are going to just be used to lob indirect frag at shorter distances than dedicated howitzers (but more than a 120mm mortar), like how Ukraine and Russia are employing their AT gunsIf you look at Venezuela's army equipment in comparison, it was much more modern, but in smaller numbers, relied heavier on light tanks, Self propelled mortars and SPG's
>>64716596>>64716608Not gunna happen, Communism needs to be stopped wherever it is.Their military is 1960's trash, we can do this and turn them back into a casino tobacco slave island - that somehow has a higher quality of life despite the vast exploitation
>>64716608Fuck that, lets do another Panama and kill half the island
>>64716621Communism asserts itself wherever people are poor, if you put Batista back in Castro looks good in comparison. Lift the blockade and everyone would become a christian democrat or a social democrat overnight. Who cares if the party’s name stays the same or they keep the che murals?
>>64716628I’d rather drink rum on the beach
>>64716596The Chinese aren't interested in Cuba, they have plenty of fertile soil to grow Tobacco, and there's nothing else of value there. It's too close to the US to not get vaporized if they base there, unlike the 1960, the Cubans don't have money and the Chinks arent exactly fond of conventional Marxist-Leninists nor willing to give them a handout or "build them up"Venezuela has black gold and 3x the distance to the US, it was much more appropriate to basing PLA and PLAN Naval assets
>>64716634Nah we need a lightning raid to take out the remaining Castro and his top commanders. Then we can put Bautista, the Actor/Pro wrestler in charge alongside Marco Rubio and turn it back into an American protectorate chock full of Casinos, Rum and Tobacco production, and rife with brown girl sex slavery. No lie the living standards despite this vast exploitation would triple within a year
>>64716640So would the USMC after a job well done
>>64716549Why not this year? We already have forces in theater, and it's not like we can't launch the entire Air Force from Florida and vaporize their military
>>64716510>>64716617So when are we going to see Cuban tanks and artillery in Ukraine
>>64716685Marco Rubio overthrowing the Cuban regime would make a nice historical footnote.
Much like Venezuela, Cuba has very valuable resources.
>>64716640>>64716672Would make Ray from GK happy. For once he'd get to invade a cool country, with, you know, chicks in bikinis.
>>64716880What would the Cuba equivalent of WEBMrel be?
>>64716923He'd probably rant about why they haven't had to shoot due to quality pussy like >>64716815 and the prospect of business with rich Americans and how he'd like to bring back one of those old Packards while loaded on Rip-Its.
>>64711789Given that there’s literally only two air forces on your side of the pond with MiG-29s, that’s not a flex. That’s just the Cubans admitting they have fewer MiGs than Peru
can we just normalise relations with cuba already, what's the point of antagonising themthey can be a little western commie nation, it would be fun
>>64716608Except everyone living there can see just how fucking badly communism has made their lives and is fighting soley to stay in power and extract tourist dollars for their own enrichment. It's nothing like Afghanistan. Cuba isn't a a rough conglomeration of disparte tribes and ethnicities separated not just by ancient territories and geography, but language, culture, religious tension, and competing interests. It's a homogenous society with a solid national identity. It's not like it was back in the 60s when people were excited about communism and believed it would improve their lot. It's not even like it was 25 years ago, when european tourism was still supporting something of a functioning economy for a decent number of people. They're facing rolling blackouts regularly, food insecurity, a break down of basic waste treatment systems, and all the money that was supposed to be improving the common Cuban's lot is going right back into the big hotels and their party boss's pockets. The average Cuban isn't going to help the remnants of a Castro government fight a guerilla war, they're going to be forming lynch mobs and hunting them down.
>>64717176>>64716634>>64716596My uninformed take is that the US is waiting for Raul Castro to die.
>>64717176Trump claimed Madro had several Cuban bodyguards that were dispatched really quickly, so they are licking their wounds like now.
>>64717795Reporting from Cuba says 32
>>64711789>>64716510>>64716529Oddly the Mig-21's might have the most modern features along with a few AA batteries, a handful of their systems have probably been upgraded and made Norky: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-26210187
>>64716510>suppose it would be interesting to visit somedayOnly if you want to peep the saddest, most dilapidated 1950 tourist trap in the world.It’s pretty much just a landing pad for pedos and Canadians to get cheap underage poon.A lot of glowies there also farming compromat Epstein style from said pedos.
>>64716701Cuba is still pretty upset about those contractors getting gang pressed
>>64718708When did that happen?
Cuba in not like small innocent Venezuela. If the AmeriKKKan imperialists try something with Cuba, they will quickly realize they made a big mistake when their F-35 toys start falling out of the sky. i need a spanking
>>64719995...You didn't have to say all that brother man.
>>64711789i doubt the Cubans can get spare parts, considering the Russians themselves struggle with it.Also fuck the new chaptchas
>>64713800Eh, it's perfectly believable. Venezuela used to be on decent terms with the US, which is why they have F-16s and shit. All Cuba had was the rotting husk of the Soviet Union.
>>64720090Especially when you realize they've never kicked us out of Guantanamo Bay despite it being pretty useful for the Cuban economy. Even with the big bad USSR at their back they couldn't fully remove us from their country
>>64713800Has a lot more combat experience. Over 150,000 cubans fought in decolonisation wars in Africa. Of course the most recent experience is the 80s. But still better than Venezuela.
>>64716657Castro hasn’t been in charge for a long time now.
>>64720104Russians supposedly were second only to Americans in combat experience thanks to Chechnya, Georgia and Syria. Look at how much good it did to them in 2022.
pretty sure only the L-39s are functional they've been selling everything else off to the norks
imagine being a venezulan af pilot when the word comes down that america is attacking. like ok boss ill just fly up and shoot at them lol
>>64720103To be honest Guantanamo is pretty fucked up even without the torture camp thing. America came along, beat them up, forced a 'lease' on them in 1903 for a piddling amount ($96,000 a year, which is fuck all even adjusted for inflation) and extended that 'lease' in perpetuity in the 1930s, naturally with thinly-veiled implications of what would happen if they told them to fuck off.Cuba is not able to kick the yanks out because the contract stipulates that any annulment has to be a mutual thing, and obviously America's position is "Fuck you gonna do about it?"They still deliver the lease payment every year, adjusted for inflation, but Cuba has a standing policy of refusing to take it, as they believe that it would legitimise the claim.I don't sympathise with Cuba for most things, being commie dumbasses and all, but this just ain't okay.
indians should be banned from the internet for spewing stupidity
>>64720472Wait no I just checked, the original 1903 lease was for the grand price of $4,000 a year. $96,000 is the current-ish price. Shit wouldn't even buy a house these days, let alone a whole chunk of a country.
got to climb around in this an-2 after its pilot defected to floridaghetto af
>>64720538Get rid of that stupid baby blue underbelly and it'd be perfection.
>>64720611Fucking hell, who chose that color scheme
>>64720472>>64720492Yeah it is fucked up, which is why I'm shocked Cuba didn't try to overtake the base, especially with soviet backing. It's not like we would've escalated to nuclear over a naval base. Or maybe we would've, it was the 50s after all
Somebody needs to pitch the idea of normalizing relations with Cuba to Trump, he can actually get the peace Nobel for that.
>>64720845>Peace Nobel >After Venezuela Chimpout
>>64720845commies gonna commieanyone worth a shit already left
>>64720472>Enforcing terms on the defeated is fucked upWhy?
Thanks for the images. Wild to just see airframes sitting on roadsides. >>64720633I like it!
>>64716510Incorrect their SF and med units have been and continue to deploy all over the world. I. Fact the main reason to this day Cuba is so influential in LatAm is that Fidel created a massive doctor training program to multiply their med staff. They've used their training and med teams all over the world and it gives them a ton of good will. Their SF units can be found training guerillas all over the planet and on loan to various allies in need of a loyal guard (see Noriega, Maduro, Chavez)
CubaBros...
>>64721874This is something a lot more people are realizing now given what's happened. The Cuban leadership is also definitely making noise about the 30+ soldiers killed in the raid.
>>64720481here's a little trivia for /k/omandoes:The Cubans called the hind a virache, meaning swift turns Based on the sudden turns it can make while in flightas you can see on this vidutb > watch?v=T3ibEVEfQus
>>64721777Because the Americans unilaterally started the war when one of their ships fucking blew up on its own and they blamed the Spanish for it. They were looking for an excuse.
>>64720519That's a shooting range.They called that a polygon, soviet nomenclature example: Poligon 1977
I hope you guys who lust for latinas realize that the vast majority of them look more like like native americans than europeans. Although, the ones with more european blood in them do look beautiful, yes.
>>64711653i think the fulcrum is a much nicer looking plane than the flanker
>>64726967Venezuelans and the Cubans that stayed on the island are mostly mulattoes and zambos. Latin American is a geographic designation, not an ethnic group.
>>64720472I wonder if someone is keeping the checks for the day that they can cash them out.
>>64720327>2022Before that they were actually rolling Ukraine, had they invaded anytime between 2016-2019 they would have rolled Ukraine. However thanks to American weapons and training they were able to stall Russia long enough for their shitshow of logistics and command structure to show it's head.
>>64727899thats moreso because pre-retrained UAF were a shitshow rather than the RuAF being competent
>>64711653If the Mig-29s could close could they hang in a dogfight against F-22s and F-35s? So far they have ZERO air to air kills.
>>64721777Its the sort of thing the Russians do
>>64726967white women don't like them so they look elsewheresimple as
