You will never be a real superpower

>>64713615
>all paratroopers sent to kill Zelensky died
>not a single US soldier died while capturing Vuvuzela’s dictator
They should learn their place tbqh

Step one: pick a country whose population doesn't want to fight
Step two: come up with a plan that involves getting in quickly, accomplishing your objectives, and then getting the fuck out before you get bogged down in a nightmare
Step 3: don't be incompetent (virtually impossible for Russia)

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>>64713615
My cock is throbbing so hard right now.

Develop a professional NCO corp that calues performance instead of rape.

>>64713629
To be fair, ruskies were banking on the idea that ukies wanted to be folded back into Russian control and thought they'd be met womith cheering Ukrainians and be hailed as heroes after taking out Zelensky.

>>64713615
Did Maduro's presidential security fight back?

>>64713655
They probably ratted him out

>>64713615
It seems /k/ is stuck in a perpetual cycle where the /pol/tards and groypers scream about how the west is finished and we live in a global south multipolar world and the latest Russian/islamic hypersonic wunderwaffe is unstoppable and will stomp on the jews. They spam parade videos and AFPost articles to support this.

Then an actual conflict happens, and the western affiliated side just effortlessly wipes the floor with their global south opposition and shocks and humiliates them. The /pol/tards creep away, only to return a few weeks later and do it all again pretending like their previous humiliation never happened

>US BTFOing Wagner/Assadists in Syria (earliest example I can think of of this effect)
>Solemaini circus
>Ukraine war clusterfuck
>Operation Grim Beeper
>Collapse of Assad
>12 day war in Iran/Iran strike
>Venezuela

Honestly it seems that "quiet" is their greatest asset, for it lets them brag and live out their fantasies of supremacy without reality interfering. It's why the /pol/ influence was strongest here in the late 2010s and early 2020s.

>>64713655
No. They were symbolic AAA bursts but no other resistance. 2 US soldiers were injured lightly when their chinook hit something, probably an antenna taking off.

>>64713668
Let them be delusional, it makes the cope so much better.

>>64713615
I've taken shits longer than 3 hours im so proud of our boys right now lol

>>64713655

Apparently they were Cubans. Nobody's talking about what went down inside the compound.

>>64713615
What's the tactical advantage of your team being all White guys?

>>64713615
That every country on this planet should get nukes asap.

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>>64713655
This is all very confusing. Even the El Chapo shoot out was way more dramatic.

I understand that Venezuela is incompetent, BUT.

>>64713877
That makes more sense than not a single helicopter being shot down.

>>64713877
sweet they are finally getting their scripts

>>64713877
NEW BROWNOID COPE JUST DROPPED!!!!

>>64713852
where did you find the footage in your image? I've been looking for footage and details of the raid but haven't really found anything.

>M-Maduro w-w-was in on it
>h-he wanted daddy Trump to capture him
Holy cope, Batman.

>>64713877
Sad cope...

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>>64713877
IT WAS A PLANNED EXTRACTION. A NEGOTIATED EXIT

>*throws cereal bowl*

>>64713615
Sucks to suck

>>64713645
Being stupid enough to actually believe your own propaganda is no excuse.

>>64713668
Who talks about the "global south", it's clearly all about China, who indeed continues to quietly build up it's arsenal and vassalage with the worlds industry that the US turned over. You could fairly use this moment to put one over Russia superficially (mocking their narrative they wanted it quick), but it really has nothing to do with the basis people mock the west which is entirely in relation to it's domestic affairs and the consequent implications of it's performance in the event of a prolonged conflict.

>>64713852
My personal conspiracy theory is that even the PSUV was getting tired of the bus driver. A backroom deal to throw Maduro out solves so many issues for everyone involved. Trump gets an easy win and some shoring up for low oil prices, the Venezuelan government can finally reintroduce the foreign experts they need to actually exploit their oil, the Venezuelan socialists can now hold Maduro up as a martyr and proof of the inexorable yankee aggression towards Latin America. The only loser is the US state department which will have the headache of trying to convince foreign nations that the US is still reliable while under an admin that treats their department like a joke, but Trump likely doesn't care because for him long term foreign policy objectives are subordinate to his own domestic reputation. I mean it's downright bizarre to take Maduro and then (seemingly as of this moment) just fuck off to let his VP take charge without so much as getting anything for the actual Venezuelan opposition, iirc Trump even said that Venezuela isn't ready for the opposition party to take over. I feel like my thinking on this is highly conspiratorial, but to me this seems like the natural follow-up for this is an uneasy detente where the PSUV is able to continue grinding out its control over Venezuela with a more stabilized oil industry at the cost of some humiliation.

>>64713668
It's been funny watching online communists have a conniption fit

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>>64713620
First Post Butthurt Post

>>64714071
so are groypers. Horseshoe theory is real.

>noooo you have to allow communists to smuggle drugs and gangbangers into your country what about muh palestine

>>64713877
>*brown coping noises*
Did he negotiate to have the tomb of Chavez blown to hell?

>>64713615
most likely nothing
there is a slim chance they will realize the value of composite air ops over excessively building up air defense and ground forces

>>64713877
Holy fucking cope

Yeah, let’s negotiate the most humiliating way possible of turning yourself in to the custody of your mortal enemy instead of saving a shred of face by surrendering yourself on your own volition

You should HEAR yourself ya fucking doofus

>>64713615
Nobody has learned anything yet. If the US actually occupies Venezuela I’m curious whether we will get drone kino in Spanish

>>64714080
I personally don't support the American special military operation, but some of the cope I've seen is hilarious, shit like:
>THIS IS THE LAST GASP OF A DYING EMPIRE!!!!
>This is literally EXACTLY like RUSSIA (even though I support this as a communist/groyper/thirdie)
It was also funny because I saw them gloating like this would be some massive quagmire for the US military early on. Whether Trump sends troops in again to create a quagmire or not has yet to be seen, but as of this moment the US effectively proved itself capable of straight up capturing a foreign dictator without any losses.

>>64714147
US is not occupying anything. There's negotiations between the US/Venezulean opposition and the communist government for a transition of power.

>>64713824
Trump did.

>He was surrounded by Cubans, which says a lot about how much he trusts his own people.
>He was trying to get to a room surrounded by steel, but we moved so fast he never made it.
>We would have gotten inside within 42 seconds anyway, apparently, that's what they tell me.
>We were expecting a fight but nothing really happened.

Seems like the cubans all stood down.

>>64713877
Yes, Maduro planned to be arrested and charged with narcoterrorism, then thrown in jail for the rest of his life. He wanted to do this over fleeing to Cuba, or Russia, and living freely for the rest of his life. It was a good plan.

>>64713615
That they should keep out of the Baltics as HATO air power will grind them to a pulp.

>>64714169
Maybe he gets to share a cell with Ghislaine Maxwell as part of his extradition deal

>>64714169
>charged with narcoterrorism
now watch the DOJ fumble the case lol

>>64714169
Problem is when Dems retake power they'll probably release him. Netenyahu knew about this op in advance and told Trump the day before that he should kill Maduro due to this reason, or bring him back to the US and then kill him later in an unfortunate accident before 2028.

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>>64714193
>they didn't try to fight cope
https://files.catbox.moe/r70zty.mp4

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>>64714193
>They lost on purpose!

>>64714191
There's still enough time for Maduro to get Epstein'd

>>64714193
>Venezuela will be another Vietnam for the US if it invades
>Venezuela didn’t want to fight anyway

Make up your minds lmao

>>64713877
you managed to contradict yourself 3 times in the same sentence, congratulations.

>>64714193
but i thought the hohol piggies were led by a a coke addict jew and nafo equipment sucks anyway? oh but now theyre suddenly the 4th reich aryan ubermensch with Tiger IIIs so of course poor russia cant beat them within 4 years

>>64713888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYr4NAzg0o

>>64714174
>Maybe he gets to share a cell with Ghislaine Maxwell as part of his extradition deal
Hello America, I am definitely a narco terrorist and I will give up my entire syndicate if you let me have thirty minutes with the titcow, PLEASE!

>>64713819
You need to see a doctor

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>>64713668
>Operation Grim Beeper
Made me kek.

>>64713877
>her wife
say more

>>64713819
Stop consuming goyslop

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>>64713877
Would've it just been easier for Maduro to resign if that was the case?

>>64714169
Life in US Federal prison is probably higher quality than living in Cuba or Russia.
>Reliable electricity and heat
>Free Cable
>Clean water
>Decent regular food
>Less rape

>>64714345
>He doesn't slam a sixer, eat, put in a dip, trim his toenails, shitpost, check emails, read a chapter, and examine his balls on the can
LMAO at your life

Completely normal performance for a thirdie military who has been at peace for literally their entire existance

These people struggle with random guerrillas in their own country

>>64713615
>invade countries that are isolated, and arent getting aid from all of NATO

>>64713615
Don't siege the capital, just take it immediately.

>>64714445
Cope. Russia could've done it before any NATO aid ever came to Ukraine but it was never about aid but simply that they can't with their rotting soviet handmedown army.

>>64714363
Psst. Anon. Might wanna check this out
https://www.verywellhealth.com/sitting-on-toilet-too-long-8770389

>>64713615
Well horses are out of the question

>>64713852
Everyone even his Cuban personnel hated him. I'm starting to understand why Trump's administration could get away with this. It's because for all intents and purposes Manduro was one easiest leaders to oust in the world.

>>64714169
Wrong Maduro turned it down
However, as mentioned at last night's press conference, President Trump is giving Venezuela a chance to asylum for Maduro from the end of 2025 to January just before the operation. The conditions presented guarantee the "physical safety" and "immunity from prosecution" of Maduro himself, his wife Syria Flores, and their sons. And as a place of asylum, we provide safe passage to Cuba, Turkey, or a third country in the Middle East. The conditions were immediate resignation and transfer of authority to the interim government.

For Mr. Trump, if Maduro left without risking the US military, it would be the "best deal" and give him a kind of "chance for an honorable withdrawal."

However, Maduro pushed back the excessive conditions. In addition to allowing the retention and withdrawal of hundreds of millions of dollars (tens of billions of yen) of illegally accumulated assets, it is also an immunity not only for oneself, but also for all senior military officials and government officials (about 100 people).

Behind this bullish deal was Maduro's overconfidence that "China will protect him" and that if he bought time, Trump would break.

In response to Maduro's answer, President Trump judged that there was "no room for negotiation." It is analyzed that he gave the green light to this military and judicial operation, saying, "If you didn't choose the easy path (of asylum), you will have to go down the tough path (arrest and arrest)."

Regarding the relationship between Maduro and China, China has lent Venezuela a total of more than 60 billion dollars (about 9 trillion yen) since the 2000s. It is a contract to repay with "oil" rather than cash. That is, the Maduro regime did not collapse even after the economic collapse because China continued to inject money through this contract.

In other words, China has been buying and supporting Venezuela's oil, which is under economic sanctions from the United States, through the "dark channel".

>>64713668
>Global south
>Russia
kek also /pol/tards are almost always making fun of Russians

>>64713877
If a deal had been made, Maduro would be chilling in a luxury condo on Russia's Black Sea coast right now

>>64714527
>>64714215

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>>64714527
Sad cope.

>>64713615
I tried to see what the pidors at dvach had to say, but it's heavily censored now.

>>64714157
Orange man explicitly said the intent is for the US to run the show for a while.

>>64714527
When US special forces arrived inside Maduro's compound, they exchanged gunfire with Venezuelan personnel.

Maduro and his wife attempted to flee into a steel-reinforced safe room, but they were unable to close the door in time. They gave up, and they were taken into custody

>>64714215
>they didn't try to fight
You're hearing the sound of the helicopter firing its cannon. It's not clear what they are firing at.

>>64714519
>kek also /pol/tards are almost always making fun of Russians
I was there when the invasion started in 2022. Those retards were all cheering for Russia until it became evident that they were incompetent.

>>64714527
Even if this were the case, doesn't that speak to the quality of our intelligence agencies and HUMINT prowess?

>>64714157
The Vice President literally just said that Nicolas Maduro is the only president of Venezuela. I don't think they're planning on playing along. Why would they?

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>>64714613
What a dumb bitch. I guess she isn't afraid of death by ninja hellfire

>>64714635
They'll find someone else to replace her. The Venezuelan government hasn't collapsed and it hasn't led to a civil war, which is the expected outcome in the long term. I just don't know why they thought it would go that easy.

>>64714078
I think you misunderstand. The question was "What can Russia learn" and the answer is "You(Russia) will never be a real superpower."
It was directed at them.

>>64714193
>Muscovy untermensch
>White
Muscovites are an extant group of denisovians that were raped by mongoloids. The end result being the modern russian; a 70IQ illiterate troglodyte who smells of a combination of makhorka, shit and cabbage.

>>64713668
I used to go on /pol/ up until before the 2020's election. A Nazi isn't going to pick sides with either Ukraine or Russia. Maybe if the Ukie Neo-Nazi's could be a good counter against Zelensky after the war but that's as far as I care. Either America can be a Reich or it'll be the next Soviet Union, but it all comes down to you fellows. .

>>64714511
China won't be very happy about this. I bet they were planning to use Venezuela in some way when Taiwan was invaded.

>>64713615
Dont siege Kiev, just take Zelensky. It was so simple, idk how they missed this key step

>>64714586
That means they will continue the embargo and only let food ships/oil ships out as long as the government co-operates. Most people in Venezuela aren't ideologically driven and just want to get paid/fed. If the US controls the flow of money and food, they control the people with guns and power inside the country.

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>>64713615
>Directional Infrared Counter Measures (DIRCM) used by Army helicopters in Venezuela
We Command and Conquer Generals now!!!

>>64713636
Oh yeah!

>>64714613
That's what's called "theatrics". Notice how in the US briefings, they mentioned that the VP has been gracious and co-operative. She's putting on a public show of being strong while making backroom deals. Typical politician.

>>64714702
More like take the president but only if you know the VP will play ball.

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>>64713877
>No no, we wanted the US to blow up our troops, our AAA, our shipping docks

>>64714674
Yes yes, we get it Shlomo. Every western russian is a chechen/yakut mutt volga tartar, born of the Tsarina Sexy_B0rsch, while your ukranians are brave heckin pure aryan cossacks made of pure white vril, untouched by the mongols. Despite reality showing that they both look functionally identical and their non tainted strains both have blue eyes and blonde hair.

>>64714704
Both Colombia and Brazil are supportive of Venezuela. Public opinion might let them make grabs for things inside Venezuela in exchange for food and a big propaganda win for standing against Washington. It's a complex situation, and I don't think they thought it through.

>>64714711
>they mentioned that the VP has been gracious and co-operative.
These same people also said they were close to a deal in Ukraine and that Putin wants peace. You'll forgive me if I'm skeptical of their claims.

>>64713615
It's four years too late for Russia to learn anything of value. They've lost their OG VDV and special forces stuff, and any intelligence assets they still have in Ukraine in 2026 are complete lame ducks.

>>64714732
The cities in Venezuela are too far away for food to be trucked in via Brazil. Look at a map sometime, it's hundreds of kilometers of forest. And Columbia's leader isn't a fan of Trump, but he is co-operative with the US. I wouldn't expect him to interfere. They've thought this through.

>>64714734
Marco Rubio (who speaks fluent Spanish) has been talking with her. I think she'll work with the US.

>>64714766
Brazil has planes and ships. Or is the US going to start striking civilian aircraft and vessels with food aid? Colombia isn't going to attack the US, but there's no reason it has to stand buy and watch 1960s policy repeat itself.

>>64714078
>reading comprehension: zero

>>64713877
>with her wife
>her wife
What did the vatnigger mean by this?

>>64714780
>he doesn't know about the venezualan triad

>>64714162
sounds like their defense forces were dangerously low in moral or competency. They are images of bodies out there so some people were at least attempting to fight before get pasted by helicopters.

>>64714772
Brazil's ships aren't getting through the blockade, and I dare say Brazil isn't willing to foot the bill of flying in all the food Venezuelans would need if they decided to cease co-operation with the US. Nor do I think they even want to help, since they didn't accept Maduro as the elected leader anyway.

>but there's no reason it has to stand buy and watch 1960s policy repeat itself.
Well, yes there is, actually. Columbia's government isn't retarded. They aren't looking to needlessly incur sanctions and Trump's ire, especially over this. They didn't like Maduro either. Not sure why you stated they are supportive of Venezuela as if that means they supported Maduro. They just don't want the US to start annexing countries in latin america. This won't happen as long as the Venezuelan government plays nice with the USA.

>>64714511
What a coherent post
However, provide source or it’s safe to assume your speculation is just well formatted

>>64714602
yeah it took me a year to get there.. fucking douchebags made me look like a retard...

>>64714702
They literally tried. They didn't think there was going to be a seige. They thought they would roll in with a bunch of helicopters and armor, decapitate the government, then put down some riots. How could anything go wrong?

>>64714806
>blockade
There is no blockade of Venezuela. That would be an act of war, for which there is no congressional approval. What he did have was a quarantine to enforce sanctions. So either we give up pretense and say it's a blockade, and he is ordered to make it dissipate in 90 days, or the aid gets through.

>>64714824
What aid? I don't see any aid. You're being a little naive here. The US has shut down Venezuelan airspace and they're able to stop and search any ships they want to enforce sanctions. Trump's said he'll put boots on the ground again if he feels like he has to. It's objectively in the Venezuelan gov's best interests to play ball if they value the prosperity of their country. Being nice means sanctions get lifted, aid comes in fast, and oil revenue comes in for the soldiers and paramilitaries who just want cash to pay for food, lest they use their guns to get a 100% discount at the nearest supply depot.

>>64713615
That staging a glorified photo op against an ailing thirdie dictatorship is easier than a full-blown invasion of a functioning nationstate?

>>64714864
>What aid? I don't see any aid.
Not yet.
>The US has shut down Venezuelan airspace
It already opened back up. Try to keep up, retard.
>Trump's said he'll put boots on the ground again if he feels like he has to.
He will have to if he wants to control Venezuela, but I doubt he'll get congressional approval.
>It's objectively in the Venezuelan gov's best interests to play ball if they value the prosperity of their country.
The regime is interested in survival first, and we have given it no reason to dissolve. Sorry, but you have to invade Venezuela if you want it to go away, and even then, what will probably happen is a civil war. You are not wrong about that. That is the most likely scenario.

>>64714902
Saving you post to laugh at later.

>>64714193
Russians are short as hell.
Diminutive in stature with the most abhorrent of jewish features. I don't know where this myth came from that they're white, but the average non-muscovite Russian is a more of an asian blooded mutt than the worst burger.

>>64714193
Oh man this cope tastes so good I could put it in a burger and eat it.

>>64714724
>But whatabou-
Yes Pjotr, you forcefully injecting your tainted blood into Ukrainian genepool is a tragedy. But it doesn't alter the fact that muscovites are not of the genus homo sapiens.

>>64713819
>I've taken shits longer than 3 hours
I think they only felt like longer than 3 hours.
See a doctor.

>>64714342
>her wife
>>64714342
>her wife
It's a common error when using AI to translate from Slavic languages to English. You see it frequently where people and objects are misgendered.
Auto-translated telegram posts often read like that.

>>64714673
>I think you misunderstand
NTA and I interpreted it as you did but it was badly phrased because it's a direct retort to the OP.
They need to use actual grammar to make clear that this is directed towards Russia attempting to learn, not the OP asking if they can.


>>64714527
>Trump will never release the videos of them capturing Maduro
Using the word "never" of a senile narcissist who flip flops daily and has no long term memory for anything he says or does, is a very poor strategy.
He can do anything at any time with no care for promises, appearances or consequences, it's sometimes one of his strengths.

>>64714673
>>64714776
No, because OP referred to Russia in the second person. Subject or object, that means FP should have said "they" if he was referring to Russia, ideally preceded by a "that".
It's not uncommon for anons, particularly brown ones, to disregard the actually question being asked and instead attack the person making the post so I was well within my rights to assume that's what he was doing.

>>64714702
>Dont siege Kiev, just take Zelensky. It was so simple
They didn't siege Kyiv, they rolled and got lit up by defenders.
An actual siege would have had better results, less losses certainly.

The kill teams sent for Zelenskyy all got killed, there were many of them over the first week, at least twelve according to Ukie claims.

>>64714902
>He will have to if he wants to control Venezuela, but I doubt he'll get congressional approval
He could with the right proposal, which is why it's supposed to work that way but in practice, no POTUS has needed congressional approval for military action including boots on the ground, for decades now and Trump cares less about that than any preceding president and apparently the establishment is fine with him doing whatever the fuck he wants anyway.

>>64714698
>China won't be very happy about this. I bet they were planning to use Venezuela in some way when Taiwan was invaded.
Probably one reason why the pentagon/state department was keen on the project.
If it was done this well, this wasn't Trump telling people to fuck with Maduro out of spite, it was the government staff bringing the project to him when it was fully formed and with loads of research and planning and finding just the right way to present it to him as a military triumph he would be remembered for.

>>64714974
>no POTUS has needed congressional approval for military action including boots on the ground, for decades now
This isn't true. Congress has approved actions via an AUMF. Trump didn't even brief congress, and it could be argued that the administration actively lied to cover for this.

>>64714992
>Trump didn't even brief congress, and it could be argued that the administration actively lied to cover for this
Happens all the time.
Especially the lying to congress.

>>64714993
When is the last time the President failed to brief congress?

>>64714902
>The regime is interested in survival first, and we have given it no reason to dissolve.
Exactly the point. The US threat of applying ever more pressure to the point a government breakdown is real. Everything for now is left intact, however, and the remaining leadership seems willing to negotiate from a position of weakness. If they co-operate, the US gains an influence win. If they don't, they are forced to dissolve from either riots or a military coup from some general who made a backroom deal with the US.

>>64713615
>So what can Russia learn from America's 3hr special military operation in Venezuela?
Well it's nice to see the KGB arrange a PR decapitation for their fren Trump but I'm missing your point since they alreafy ran Venezuela and used it for mass migration as hybrid warfare to help get Trump elected

>>64713662
This. They were offered gold or lead
They sensibly took gold and sold out the dear leader

>>64715093
You wanna try that again in english?

>>64713642
>performance instead of rape.
You sound like a woman.

>>64713615
Look at these softies, real mean take four years to complete nothing. Suffering makes you a man!

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>>64713636
>>64713629
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx_a_10HVOo

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Yes yes it's very impressive, kidnapping a famously incompetent and unpopular dictator of a failed third world country dancing on the edge of bankrupcy. So far America has flexed his muscles on weak opponents like camel jockeys, zigger mercs and fat sudacas, but let's get to the meat, shall we? What if the US would conduct a similar operation in europe, specifically western europe? Think they could pull it off?

>>64715163
https://youtu.be/hjMD6yBF1Z0?si=zTPvObUN23YrhqXH
I am not even American, i just hate anyone undemocratic.

>>64715163
>>64715172
>democracy wins again
Why are undemocratic governments so terrible when facing any democracy?
It's like a force-division debuff that gets applied to your military power.

>>64713877
>with her wife
Grim, not even a day in America and he already is transitioning into a woman

>>64713655
Trump's phrasing during the press conference suggests they got butchered.

>>64713877
saaaaar, please

>>64715188
For them loyalty is more important than competency. This spreads outside of the government into the "private" sector.

>>64713877
Naw, nigga. It's over.

>>64715171
>kidnapping a famously incompetent and unpopular dictator of a failed third world country dancing on the edge of bankrupcy
If we apply the survivability onion to geopolitics, what could Venezuela have done to avoid being targeted?
Would a liberal democracy have been raided like this?
What if they had functioning rule of law?
Would these things prevent or reduce the extent of their failure or move them further away from bankruptcy?

>a famously incompetent and unpopular dictator
Would elections have succeeded in replacing him with a more competent and popular prime minister/president?


>>64715189
>Grim, not even a day in America and he already is transitioning into a woman
It's not a transition, he's just identifying as one because of >>64715130
>You sound like a woman
He doesn't want to be raped so he's identifying as a woman to unlock the "rape is bad" card. Men are not legally allowed to object to rape or criticise it in a military context.

>>64715189
Trying to play the system against itself. Xir Maduro will get more leniency from a woke judge.

>>64715203
>Would a liberal democracy have been raided like this?
Remains to be seen with Greenland and Canada. Lets not pretend this op isnt making Denmark nervous.

>>64714771
Rubio also stated that there were no further strikes planned only to get rugpulled by Trump saying there's a massive second strike planned on live television hours later kek

>>64715171
>What if the US would conduct a similar operation in europe, specifically western europe? Think they could pull it off?

It would be even easier than with Venezuela.
I doubt there are many people in WE who would risk their lives for our politicians.

>>64713877
That's fucking retarded and gay. It would make more sense for a staged coup before handing him off to the US if that were the case. Would save the US from the inevitable backlash from the turdies and eurotards and UN cucks while also humiliating chinkland by showing Venezuela would rather align with us of their own volition.

>>64713615
Is this chess? Do you capture the other country’s king and then immediately move in?

Probably the fact that kidnapping some guy and his wife from a foreign country doesn't yield any strategic results. Or the fact that control over the country only comes with occupation. Something that anyone with above room temperature IQ knew already. The regime installed by Chavez is still in place. It's security apparatus is still intact. The oil tankers from China are still arriving in Venezuela. The drugs are still pouring into the US from the very same countries they did before, Mexico, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru. Is Trump just going to keep launching nighttime helicopter abductions until Venezuela's government is insolvent and goes along with whatever shit he's planning?

>>64715219
Since Trump didn't say that (and obviously wouldn't), I can only assume you're retarded, or lying. It's probably both. The only televised briefing on the subject is the one where both Rubio and Trump say their piece. Trump said they had a second wave planned, but didn't need to use it. You can watch the whole thing here.

https://youtu.be/SsdkClL2_bg?t=2851

>>64715221
True. But who would you even capture? Ursula von der Leyen? She is just a figurehead. George Soros maybe? Just for shits and giggles.

>>64714191
>Problem is when Dems retake power they'll probably release him.
Releasing people with full pardons has been Donnies deal this whole time, so i kinda doubt that the dems want to copy it

>>64715249
>George Soros
Where would you capture him from?
He lives in New York, they could send the FBI but what they'd actually do is call his lawyer and present a warrant and request him to surrender to the NYC FBI HQ.

>>64715261
>kinda doubt that the dems want to
You're talking with a shill, it's just a zigger or something trying to make it dems fault that Trump did something.

Don't try to imagine whether it could be true, the poster you're quoting didn't spend a second deciding whether they were writing something plausible, it's just firehose of falsehood.

Vatniks are gonna be seething about this one for a long time because it's literally the myth making bullshit they hyped themselves up as for decades before being exposed as incompetent in Ukraine. "Yeah bro they just flew in and kidnapped the president" has the same energy as "I don't know what to tell you, the Ukrainian military just disintegrated on contact." The difference is that one actually happened and that the other was the beginning of a nonstop humiliation ritual for the world's most pathetic, fragile minded subhuman scum. Total Russoid Despair.

>>64715211
Who would you even capture in irrelevant province like Denmark?

>>64715268
I mean, making a shitpost about Dems being weak on crime is pretty low-hanging fruit, because its true (to an extent).
Its just a funny thing to say when Trump just pardoned a guy for massive drug-trafficing this week

>>64715211
Ridiculous.

>>64715270
Russia is snow africa, nobody with a functioning brain gtakes these monkeys seriously.

>>64715211

No, Greenland is not targeted, but the Greenlanders will fight any invasion attempt.

Furthermore Greenland's armed forces certainly don't use Russian weapons.

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>>64714585
Grim...

>>64714191
American military doctrine is a uniparty position, libertarian and socialist fringes in congress will never have any real influence

>>64715093
>used it for mass migration as hybrid warfare to help get Trump elected

Damn, if only Dems put a stop to it by being against open borders. What happened?

>>64715299
>Greenlanders will fight any invasion attempt
All five of them?

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>>64713645
Why would the historic capital of the Rus people fancy being invaded by the Northern Mongolian pretender regime again?

>>64715299
I dont really understand the whole Greenland-thing, because the way Donald frames it, the whole island is currently encircled by chinese warships and should thus be rightfull american clay?

>>64715308
IP floggings?

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>>64715286
>Who would you even capture in irrelevant province like Denmark?
JFK's old girlfriend?
She was rumoured to be a nazi spy, after JFK was made to break it off by his father, she later hooked up with a British MP and married him after the war.

>>64715270
you know, grabbing a president of some poor country with barely any military seems like weak shit compared to real man's ukraine war where artillery tanks drones and trenches in cold fucking europe are dialy occurence

>>64715378
Bans most likely.

>>64715290
>Dems being weak on crime is pretty low-hanging fruit, because its true (to an extent)
Remind me who pushed the '94 Crimes bill through the senate?

>>64715394
Wasnt me, i was 6 at the time

>>64713615
If you want a job done properly you call in Delta, if SEALs had been involved someone would have drowned, got run over by an AFV, fell down a well etc. then we would have had 10+ years of books and movies about it.

>>64715417
Kinda sad we'll never get Marky Mark in the jungle tho

>>64715211
If anyone here is worried, it's only because this display might give some people the idea he might do something stupid relating to Greenland.

>>64715286
Researchers behind ozempic so America can claim it for themselves.

>>64713615
They can learn to be white not mongoloid rape babbies

>>64715389
Yeah, but that was like, 200 years ago. She is probably dead, anon.

>>64715452
Who? America, Ukraine or Russia?

>>64713615
Nothing.
Russia invaded Ukraine to genocide its very people.
USA invaded Venezuela to get rid of the dictator who genocided own people.
Even though the end goals of US and Russia - resources - were partially same, Ukraine had existential fight, unlike Venezuela.
Also obviously americans did not practice orcish methods, unlike russians.

So, what is going on in Venezuela right now?

>>64715509
Looks like standard Continuation of Government protocols. The female VP took the oath of office, and nobody's rolled up and pulled a coup. So either Maduro really is single-handedly responsible for things being as bad as they are, or they're going to go full zigger and start playing "hit me again, you won't, no balls".

>>64715509
>>64715520
And I want to stress, she didn't go "acting president", she took the oath of office. They have already decided that they're not getting Maduro back and they're not even going to try.

>>64715452
Muskovya of course

>>64715489
Muskovya of course you bellend

>>64715569
>>64715572
Bots are misfiring again, Reddit should get its technicians on the case ASAP.

>>64713615
It's easier to implement regime change when the opposition leader is compliant.

>>64713629
Step 4. Likely bribe a shit to of generals so you don't actually how much resistance

>>64713645
>ruskies were banking on the idea...
And troons believe they are women

>>64714519
They are honorary brown and honorary south

>>64714080
Groypers want to destroy America to own the heckin' jews. I do not take anything they say seriously.

>>64714169
Sounds like he was in some weird BDSM. Like those femdom and findom retards. DoJdom?

>>64715621
>permanent incarceration, fully imprisoned foreverially and loving it

>>64714969
>An actual siege would have had better results
They tried that after the initial plan got fucked, but got their teeth kicked in even harder. They moved their forces from both sides of the city to try to envelop it and cut it off. On the left bank of Dnipro (the eastern side of Kyiv) they got murdered without even reaching the suburbs. On the right bank of Dnipro (the western side of Kyiv) they got smoked when they've reached the Kyiv-Zhitomir highway. The piles of blown up armor and fried rusnigger bodies was spectacular.

>>64715100
It's a RU projection of "this was all easy because Madura was already a US stooge". Why projection? Because that's exactly what happened during the soviet invasion of Afghanistan: they had a soviet stooge running things and they sent guys to decapitate their own regime lmao, and then pumped their chest about how great the operation was, still is a foundational myth for RU special forces.

>>64715308
Did they actually make such a thread? AFAIK the image is a parody of their special bookmarked/attached SMO thread.

>>64715597
look up holomodor, faggot

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>>64713615
>On 24 February 2022, a few hours after the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of a "special military operation" in Ukraine, Russian troops of the Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) made an air assault on Antonov Airport with the objective of capturing it. The airport held strategic value as it was located less than 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) outside of the capital Kyiv, which would allow Russian troops to airlift more troops and heavier equipment to directly threaten the city.
The VDV was tasked to make a 10km detour from Kyiv to take Antonov airport instead of going after Zelensky when they still had the element of surprise for no gain whatsoever...

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>>64715646
oh it's real

>>64713615
What can Russia learn from the biggest fail in modern US history? The one that will forever cut US ties with EU and few allied countries left?

>>64714193
>>64714527
Can the tranny jannies please stop deleteing all the delicious 3rd worldist cope

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Sheeeat, it's blyatiful

>>64715333
>Damn, if only Dems put a stop to it by being against open borders. What happened?
I seem to recall a certain President telling Republicans to not vote for the border bill because he wanted to run on the issue, and now he has 0 legislation. So, I guess that's what happened.

>>64715702
Damn, now that is some proper Berniebro meltie.

>>64715729
I seem to recall certain political wing running Sanctuary cities.

>>64715597
There's literally an ICC warrant for chief monke for genocide my brown friend

>>64715734
Yes, yes, you hate federalism when it doesn't go your way. The plan to rule by executive order isn't going to work out in the long run. Watch dems give amnesty next time around and secure a new and permanent voting block, not to mention retarded moves like making Puerto Rico and DC a state.

>>64715702
This really reads like /int/.

>>64715249
Angela Merkel
>but she's not in power anymore
That's why it'd be funny. That or England's strategic supply of Boris Johnsons

>>64715760
This is RU 2ch's /po/, just know who's pushing the talking points you see online

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>one of the top non-oil/non-gas oligarchs of russia whining

>>64715743
>ICC warrant
International Cricket Council?

>>64713615
Nothing. Russian deep state doesn't want the war to end.

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>>64715888
i beg to differ

>>64713615
>Russia
>Learning

>>64715903
>You can't apprehended these terrorists who hijacked a civilian cruise liner and killed an old man muh heckin sovereignty
Do Shitalians really?

>>64715888
>>64715927
Get droned like the rest of your mongrel "country""men" zigger

>America is able to conduct a decapitation strike within three hours without any causalities
>See this proves they're weak and losing power

>>64715927
bruh, stop watching videos of druggies on the streets and touch some grass

>>64715936
Imagine denying something obvious simply because it makes you uncomfortable.
Fairly funny, right?
>NOOO I WONT GET WET IN THE RAIN BECAUSE I RUN FASTER THAN IT RAINS ON ME! LOOK AT ME GO WEE

Imagine being part of a propaganda force.
Hilarious on individual level.
You wanted to get into the armed forces and you couldn't do well so you ended up in the shitpost legion and now you're stuck there.

Now imagine a country spending money on running said force, even though there's very clear evidence of it being inefficient to say the least.
That's hilarious on administration level.
Everyone in the system must know its money spent on bullshit but hey it's making me money I'm not going to tell the higher ups. It sounds very Russian to me.

>>64713642
In Russian army we learn rape is most manly thing of all

>>64713615
That the gangster grip is still vastly superior to the k grip.

>>64713877
>maduro returned to port under his own power

>>64715987
Maduro is conducting a shaping attack on the DEA.

>>64713662
I guarantee the VP sold him out. That bitch was in Russia before Madura was back in the U.S. kek. I just hope it was the Wagner Group protecting the motherfucker and got smoked.

>>64714674
>denisovians
underrated

>>64713974
If that was the plan it would have been to Russia where he could hide out like Assad is and hope for a regime collapse and return to power. Instead he’s going to die in ADX Florence kek.

>>64714191
Still pissed we don't arrest and turn that fucker in when he visits. There must be a bounty on him?

>>64715261
>Laughs in Biden autopen
Your blatant hypocrisy is why you lost.

>>64715249
They should pick someone random, like the Prime Minister of Belgium and then announce "ladies and gentlemen, we got him" like he's Saddam.

>>64714215
That isn't a gun fight.

>>64714780
>What did the vatnigger mean by this?
He's probably a Spanish speaker, as in Spanish the gender of the possessive adjective (his/her) depends on the object instead of the subject.

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>>64716040
Trump JUST pardoned a DIFFERENT former Latin American president serving a life sentence for drug trafficking.

>>64713615
That they should've started with Moldova

>>64714776
Reading is for faggots.

>>64714191
Well that'd be an easy way to lose all of their support quickly. Like, yeah, there are people who don't like that we just snatched el presidente in his sleep but nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants Maduro back. Best thing the Dems could do aside from just letting the situation be is a conditional pardon if he agrees to be exiled somewhere

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>>64714169
Maybe we promised him unlimited empanadas in federal supermax?

>>64715389
>JFK's old girlfriend?
She looks slav, but fat.

.t slav

>>64716099
>Venezukraine can't hurt you
>Venezukraine

>>64715663
You can tell it's real because of all the talk about ass and sphincters.

>>64713615
They military doctorine is written for a country that doesn't exist. Until they fix that, there is no learning

>>64716099
>>64716115
Somewhere, in a bizarre parallel universe, Amerigo Vespucci saw Lake Maracaibo and said "this is exactly like the Sea of Azov" and right now parallel/k/ is shitposting about Nicolas Maduro, the president of Mariupoleula.

>>64716151
And Trump is president of the United States of Vespucca

>>64715702
Actually the hamburger was invented by the Bongs. The first mention of the word 'hamburger' is in an English cookbook. Granted, 'hamburger sausage' which is served 'between two toasted buns'. But that's the first actual hamburger recipe.

>>64714169
>fleeing to Cuba, or Russia, and living freely
Assad is dead bro. They have his corpse in a bdsm dungeon under Moscow. Punishment for his failure. Do you honestly believe dictators get the happily ever after?

>>64714776
Fuck yeah

>>64713852
Yeah, but were the El Chapo bodyguards fucking starving? No?

>>64713645
step 4
don't put yes-men into your intel aparatus

>>64716169
Didn't he got spiced in Mascoc. Assad is former shell. You already know what is Russia's treatment for former allies or heros

>>64716169
Putin is known for rewarding loyalty, faggot

>>64714959
this is cope
everyone else understood it
you didn't

>>64714067
No deal is possible when arresting Maduro means he's gonna snitch on all of them plus the entire of Latin American socialist politicians and their corrupt local business friends. They're all gonna end up in a DEA Most Wanted list.

>>64716295
They just need him to point oil the crude deposits because they can't read Spanish

It's very obvious Maduro was sold out by his military.

Literally anyone could have shot down at least a few of those US helis with basic bitch weapons.

>>64713615
Make sure your glowies aren’t all yes men and make sure your spec ops actually has support.

>>64716295
He's going to snitch on them for what? Repressing their people and engaging in corruption, literally something we already know they do? "Narco-Terrorism" which itself is just an ad hoc excuse for this operation? Maduro is not necessary to indict any of these people lmao

>>64716311
I think probably less sold out in the conspiracy sense and more a collective 'oh fuck that I'm not dying for this'. Reportedly one chopper was damaged with two crewmen injured so there was fire back, and I think I'd want my money back on that deal if I was one of the sites that got SEADed/bombed.
We've got photos of at least one Buk TELAR truck that was clearly hit by an arad missile, which means it was in an active search or track mode too.

>>64716295
>snitch on all of them
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this, but those charges probably won't stick.

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>>64713615
>So what can Russia learn from America's 3hr special military operation in Venezuela?
That real superpowers can just do things.
Dugin was having a melty on Telegram all day because the US pulled off in 4 hours and with zero KIA what spetsnaz, redut and fagner hit squads got eviscerated trying to do in Kiev for weeks.

>>64713848
An average +15 IQ points each

>>64716311
It seems this new cope is everywhere today.

>>64715658
There were separate hit squads out for Zelenkizsyiyiy. They all got got. At least 2 separate groups of bodies I saw posted here before Kiyv was threatened.

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>>64716364
>Cope

Now THAT is cope.

Helicopters are mysteriously immune to small arms fire?
No. They are not.
There was no formal military resistance because the military leadership basically sold out or decided not to fight back.

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why did they cover his eyes and ears?

t. tourist

>>64715295
we are way past the point where anything ridiculous is off the table

>>64716438
Eyes because it's hard to do something stupid if you don't have any spatial awareness.
Ears because helicopters are loud.

>>64716438
hes watching the POV replays of his capture in VR

>>64713655
There’s some pictures floating around of dead guards stacked like fucking cordwood, supposedly that was his elite Cuban guard. They are mostly in one piece, which implies to me that then were shot and not just hit with airstrikes.

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>Whatever. Wasn't that impressive anyway.

>>64716504
Jesus fucking Christ, the Onion writers are going to be out of a job at this rate

>>64716504
This is almost as good as the crowd that says
>Well the US just gave RUSSIA the justification they need to kidnap Zelensky!

>>64716364
It's probably difficult to overstate how shook the chinks and the cringier Euro elements are over how well this op played out. It simply can't be the Burgers were just that capable, they had to have used some weaselly cheat method to get the job done, one that would obviously never work if it was tried with their own nations.

>>64716504
literal hold me back bro moment

>>64716438
>>64716444
Also so you don't accidentally give your new prisoner an exclusive tour of any secret glowie shit being employed or risk them overhearing anything sensitive.

>>64716099
>projecting your own botched invasion of another country onto the United States
No people on Earth can master self-depreciation the way Russians have.

>>64716504
top kek, has our favorite BROSINT, armchair copelord, give his opinion yet?

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>>64716504
>could easily kidnap Zelensky if they wanted to, but they simply haven't been given the order to do so

>>64716550
>shook the chinks and the cringier Euro elements are over how well this op played out.
someone please explain to me why I've been seeing so many krauts, frogs, limeys et al throwing fucking tantrums over this shit that doesn't even begin to involve them

>>64716636
Deep-seated inferiority complex

>>64715658
>The VDV was tasked to make a 10km detour from Kyiv to take Antonov airport instead of going after Zelensky
Russia sent glowie kick-murder squads and politically reliable praetorians (Chechens) to do the job, they all failed spectacularly and mostly died or were captured.

And that was just for Zelenskyy, there were separate squads out for Budanov, Zaluzhnyi and others.
I love the story that Budanov had to be dragged kicking and screaming into an armoured car by his security detail because he wanted to go shoot ziggers.

>>64715663
>who now the internal sphincter is pressing the external
>and the concepts were the only guarantor of his ass safety
This is definitely translated from authentic zigger.

>>64715658
Zelensky was guarded by Ukrainian SOF and NATO SOF away from the background.

There were dead ziggers on the streets of Kiev during the invasion and there were also separate hit squads and crews for his wife, generals and other high ranking government officials; even the ex-president and mayor of Kiev had their hit squads wiped out by the Ukrainian armed forces Day 1-2.

Literally KWAB and that's not counting Antonov, Hostomel, that long traffic jam, Kharkiv, etc.

If Maduro had loyal guards like Saddam I guarantee they would have taken at least one Delta operator out but they all fled and probably got paid to stay away from their guard duties.

>>64713671
undetonated IGLA bounced off it

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>>64714335
4 u

>>64716504
Holy cope.
Haven't the ruzzians lost all their SOFs?

>>64716714
No, paperwork error, "Pavel" was really "Ivan" and so did not die but merely was replaced by himself. Again, 8th time. 155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade, pls understand.

>>64715933
>You can't apprehended these terrorists
You're a zigger.
The way that I know this is that you're pretending the Italians were protecting the terrorists instead of just wanting to be the ones who made an example of them.

The terrorists were just the prize that the winner of that pissing contest got.
Also, that's a still from a movie. In reality there was a third cordon around Delta who were sandwiched between cordons of carabinieri and random cops and agents.

>in the absence of an extradition request, no one was allowed to take from Italian justice persons suspected of having taken part in a criminal act punishable under Italian law
Delta should have had their fucking paperwork in order, Europe has standards for these things.

>>64716636
You aren't supposed to kidnap foreign leaders without a clearly defined reason that constitutes a just cause for war: he's a narco-terrorist, he's corrupt, his people are starving, etc. are not strong enough causes for war. There's a reason why Desert Storm was justified with the Invasion of Kuwait and 2003 was justified with WMDs. More hawkish types are unlikely to cry for Maduro, the guy blatantly deserved it; but this is essentially another example of the US subverting the rules of the international system that we designed to benefit us in the first place. So it's a question of "is it okay to break the rules to punish a shitheel who probably deserves it". I think the ship has already sailed on the whole "international law and diplomatic norms" thing, as Trump has already made it clear he doesn't give a fuck about the sovereignty of foreign nations and it's not like Russia needed this pretext to invade Ukraine prior. The US already let the system of international law designed to prevent this sort of stuff collapse, now we're just acting in accordance with that.

>>64716040
>autopen
Literally every president uses the autopen since it was invented.
The claim about Biden always using it may or may not be true but is just random maga cope because that's the best they can come up with to smear him while their own pedo-rapist savior is the epitome of corruption.

>>64716060
>in Spanish the gender of the possessive adjective (his/her) depends on the object instead of the subject
That makes sense.
It does happen when auto-translating both hohhol and zigger too though.

>>64716747
>break the rules
What rules

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>>64713615
Oh, was this the thread?
Just to be clear
FUCK PALESTINE YOU REDDIT NIGGER

>>64716759
UN Article 2

>>64716747
>I think the ship has already sailed on the whole "international law and diplomatic norms" thing

Yeah, in 2003.

>>64716747
They didn't do it with the intent to punish him, it's all about that thick crude

>>64716091
>She looks slav, but fat.
That's normal for 1940s, she's just curvy, not even thicc as the kids say.
Danes generally look pretty good to me; tall, mostly slim and fair.

>>64716324
>Reportedly one chopper was damaged with two crewmen injured so there was fire back
A US outlet (and all US media are friendly to the US establishment and all are VERY friendly when it's about non-partisan international conflict like this) reported that the helo hit an object on the way out and speculated that it was an antenna.

If a Chinnok clipped a phone tower or something, I could see that causing a few non-fatal injuries on board and air frame damage that's going to ground that bird after it limps back to base.

>>64716324
>We've got photos of at least one Buk TELAR truck that was clearly hit by an arad missile
You don't know that, that could have been smoked by anything, including the helo we saw lighting something up with rockets.
The position of those trucks would have been known in advance with their deployment tracked constantly from the moment the op was green lit five days earlier all through every minute that the op was repeatedly postponed until conditions were optimal.
That's not counting the ground team of glowies who would have had eyes on air defence deployments the whole time too.
You don't need the truck to be radiating; you have its exact coordinates, you can see in the dark and it's the middle of the night in a parking lot. Apparently they just decided to lob unguided rockets in its general direction but an AKPWS would do the job nicely too, as would a JDAM or tomahawk.
Maybe the 160th had a bunch of hydras nearing expiration.

>>64716438
>why did they cover his eyes and ears?
It denies a prisoner any opportunity to try to escape, fight back, basically do anything.
It also denies them knowledge of who captured them (the specific soldiers I mean), what they're doing next, where they even are...they're completely in the dark until you put them in an interrogation room and take it off.
That will make the interrogation a lot easier and it makes a bunch of other stuff in the future easier because the prisoner has almost no information to go on.

>>64716438
>all those spec ops larper replies
Photo op

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>>64716504
Good lord, if I took every bit of false-flagging zigger bait that ever got posted to /k/ and put them in a millenia long breeding program, the Kwisatz Haderbait that came to fruition a generation early wouldn't be as refined and potent as that.

It has everything; we didn't need it, the real army is still waiting, the times we failed aren't real, we're too nice...

>>64716788
>UN
lmfao

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>>64716636
>someone please explain to me why I've been seeing so many krauts, frogs, limeys et al throwing fucking tantrums
Same reason you see picrel.

Divide and conquer.

>>64716688
>they all fled and probably got paid to stay away
They died fighting apparently.

It's said that a few US dudes were shot, just non-fatally and not serious enough to be reported.

>>64716833
Two were injured, not necessarily shot.

>>64716827
We seem to be slowly coming together out of disgust for the mutt, to be honest

>>64716438
He already was wearing the eye mask, as he welcomed the Americans by trying to re-enact the opening scene from Hot Shots Part Deux.

>>64716822
You do know that the US signed that charter and has enforced it on multiple occasions against enemy and ally alike, right?

>>64716840
>Two were injured, not necessarily shot.
I've read that two were injured when the helo hit something, I've read that "a few had injuries including bullet wounds, fragmentation and impact".

>>64715171
I love how russians are suddenly doing a 180 and say Ukraine was western europes bastion to cope with their shitty "invasion"

>>64715390
Kek the seethe is absolutely delicious
You lose by exposing that you're russian btw, because no argument you will ever win will change the fact you're in a thirdworld shithole

>>64716850
Yeah, it's also broken it numerous times since. Next.

>>64716438
This is unironically the most comfy way to fly. Ear pro in and 2 beanies pulled over my eyes I was fucking OUT.

>>64714191
The likelihood of Trump pardoning him is higher than a Dem. He already pardoned a president for drug trafficking, the man is the definition of “let’s make a deal.” It’s both a good and bad thing, but it’s really a reflection of how America is 100% down for getting a bottom line by figuring out what it costs someone (either morally or physically).
>>64716090
Perfect example right here: take the deal or suffer an empanada less life.

>>64716850
This is the most Western Euro shit on the face of the earth lmfao

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>>64713636
'ate the antichrist but good to see we can still set examples when it matters.

>>64716843
I agree, it is time we reconsider who our true allies are and make pragmatic decisions. Much as it pains me, China is probably a safer long-term bet.

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>>64716948
IT SAID THE LINE

>>64713615
Russians arent white

>>64716960
And that is the source of their strength, just like Americans.

>>64716747
>You aren't supposed to kidnap foreign leaders without a clearly defined reason that constitutes a just cause for war: he's a narco-terrorist, he's corrupt, his people are starving, etc. are not strong enough causes for war
How about the stolen american assets when the commies nationalized their oil industry? That's a Casus Belli

>>64717324
>How about the stolen american assets when the commies nationalized their oil industry?
The oil industry was nationalized before Chavez came to power. You're so retarded that you actually believe this dumb shit.

>>64717387
>The oil industry was nationalized before Chavez came to power
Did he give it back?

Receiving stolen property is a crime in most jurisdictions.

>>64717408
>Did he give it back?
Why would he? It was nationalized in 1976 and American companies kept doing business with Venezuela. Furthermore, it was completely legal.
>Receiving stolen property is a crime in most jurisdictions.
A state is sovereign over its territory. You realize your property can be taken by legal means of the state, right?

>>64717434
>moving goal posts
kek this venezuela piggie is FUMING

>>64717471
That's not moving the goalposts. Let's see the original claim:
>stolen american assets when the commies nationalized their oil industry?
The assets were not stolen. Nationalization is a legal process, and the companies were compensated, though it could be said they were given below market rate.
Two, it wasn't the commies that did it. They were not in power in 1976.
Nothing in your statement is true. Can you admit now that this was lie?

>>64717488
i ain't reading allat

>>64717489
I accept your concession.

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>>64715663
>now the internal sphincter is pressing the external

>>64714147
Slavs can barely build and operate drones. You think South Mexicans can into drones? You laffin me.

>>64715663
Why cant they be normal

>>64716099
>bogged down
I was going to call out the obvious retardation but what are the chances other South American countries take advantage of this and/or take Venezuela land? Im thinking in the same vein as Israel going into Syria after the kerfuffle. Are there any grudges the others have for Venezuela like the hard on Argentina has for the Falkands?

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>>64714813
you are a retard anon

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>>64716504
>u-uh yeah we could of totally done b-but we just d-didnt!
Has to be bait surely shame isnt just a western concept, right?

>>64717808
>surely shame isnt just a western concept, right?
There's a certain part of the western population that feels no shame and acts just like vatniggers, so it's an increasingly rare concept.

the grinder still hungers for meat

Is China going to reconsider invading Taiwan in 2027, or the near future, after Iran and now Venezuela's air defense were largely ineffective against a US air campaign?

People used to think Russia could advance up to France in a war against NATO before the US could get troops to Europe (before the Ukraine war). Iran had a lot of flags and an overhyped missile force. Something tells me China is not going to do as well as predicted in an actual conflict.

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>>64716504
>>64717808
It's 100% real and even worse if you read the whole thing https://t.me/milinfolive/163794

"According to veterans of the Russian "Alpha", the US operation in Venezuela was so-so and did not require a lot of intelligence, the Russian special forces are cooler than the American "Delta" in everything and, if desired, can simply kidnap Zelensky, but they simply do not give the command to do this.

The Daily Storm published an extremely special view of two veterans of the Alpha special forces on the US-led operation to kidnap Maduro. We present the material as it is to familiarize yourself with the distorted prism through which some high-ranking representatives of the Russian special services look at what is happening.

"They worked illegally, inhumanely and anti-state, but probably normally. It seems to me that the operation, by and large, is not a spit, but so-so. There was no resistance, they quickly entered, apparently bribed everyone, found corrupt people - and that's it: they opened the doors," said FSB colonel and veteran of the Alpha group Vitaly Demidkin.

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>>64717900
>the nation that actively avoids any combat operations whatsoever, out of fear of losing face
>their last combat over 50 years ago featured them locking arms and singing while marching directly into jungle valleys full of vietnamese machine gun nests
yeah no, they don't stand a chance, kek

>>64716504
>>64717949
>>64717808
"You don't need much intelligence here, [...] >That is, they, in principle, entered a building that had already been prepared for them. I don't see much professionalism here," said Alfa veteran Igor Senin

The operatives agreed that the Russian special forces are an order of magnitude more professional, since they have more experience and regularly met a real threat from terrorists.

"Ours are cooler in general in everything. In the number of operations, rescued citizens and hostages. They act in a matter of seconds, liberate planes, households, apartments. And we probably have a stronger spirit. After all, we fought and are fighting not for money, but for people who are in trouble," Demidkin is convinced.

He would even like to measure his strength with his American colleagues.

"On the one hand, of course, it is effective [the capture of Maduro], but on the other hand, we have probably not heard them [Delta] anywhere. I would like to meet them somewhere there. I mean, on the battlefield or in some other operation," the FSB colonel said.

Both members of Alfa are convinced that it will not be difficult for their comrades to capture Volodymyr Zelensky. However, this is still not happening, and there are many reasons for this.

"First of all, it's politics. If the command had been given to carry out such work, it would have been done long ago. Just about four months ago, about three FBI and CIA agents were captured by our veteran guys. No one could even resist," Senin gave an example.

«We can simply kidnap Zelensky, but we are complying with international law. Therefore, we are not taking these actions yet. But if there is an order from the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, it seems to me that this is elementary. Study, track down where it is, and calmly take it," Demidkin assured.

>>64717949
Russians really think that good intelligence work and coordination between agencies makes it so-so, when all that matters is tactical success. I won't speak to the long term strategic implications, but if they're going to cope this hard, they will never learn.

>>64717949
>>64717962
My god delusional dosent even describe it.

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>>64716504
Why was the Hostomel raid done during the day if they have the same capabilities?

>>64716504
>>64717968
My favourite part
"Ours are cooler in general in everything. In the number of operations, rescued citizens and hostages. They act in a matter of seconds, liberate planes, households, apartments. And we probably have a stronger spirit. After all, we fought and are fighting not for money, but for people who are in trouble"
They'd rather be "cooler" and rely on their "stronger spirit" to save people out of goodwill, than to rely on carefully planning operations, I guess

>>64718055
It's literally just this convo:
https://youtube.com/shorts/PCPKEY2CS9s