Taiwan might be alright.
>US sourcesCrap.
>>64721873It was just a feint. China degraded the radars right before the attack to fool American intel analysts. They run at full capability only when China needs them to.
>>US sources>Crap.
>>64721887Ohh ching chong ping ling most implessive
>>64721873Growlers are not missile defense, which is the primary concern from China
>>64721873Plot twist:China sold out Maduro, in exchange for Taiwan.
>>64721886>>64721892so the helicopters in caracas were an evil HATO scheme to trick you?
>>64721886actually maduro wasnt captured and cucked on a helicopter
>>64721965>maduroWho? Comrade Delcy Rodriguez has always been glorious leader since Comrade Chavez appointed her himself.
>>64721912China had now way to prevent this so there's no reason to give them anything at all
>>64721896Why are some people seemingly unable to recognize sarcasm?
>>64721886>memory-hole'd Maduro that quicklyCommies are insects without souls. >>64721989This is re-branded Assad-cope btw>HE JUST GAVE UP>JEW BRIBED PEOPLE AND STUFF>MONKEY MODELS REEEEEEEEEEE
>>64721873They turned off the radars as a good will gesture. The Chinese radars were a feint.
>>64722041this is unironically what the chinkshills and vatniggers are claiming lol
>>64721873These weren't Fucking state of the art! They had mid-2000 tech radar!
Then is there ANYONE in BRICS willing to actually put up a fight?
>>64721887>The killswitch meme is real, but only for temu knockoff chinkshit.
>>64721989Someone forgot to tell Cuba.
>>64722124>>64722110Are we supposed to be upset lmao
So the new cope has arrived
Brown lost an argument and is pulling out his new cope
>>64721873China has no intention of invading Taiwan, because they won't have to. They're just going to keep on playing the trade/soft power game and eventually, all of SE Asia will fall into their sphere of influence.The warmonger angle is just US propaganda that China gladly feeds into in order to make the US waste it's resources.
>>64721979yeah but it's yet another deal that can be sold as 'making peace' so i'd put the odds at even that this could have actually fucking happened because it seems just retarded enough. i refuse to believe that this was actually done this competently at this point and i'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
>>64722161>TradeHow is -13% industrial profits going for them among other abysmal economic numbers>Soft powerTell me how many people replaced chinese tourists in Japan after their chimpout over Sanae Takaichi
>>647218923-0
>>64722186cherry pickingthe chinese economy is doing better than the US economy, and chinese influence is growing worldwide because they offer better loans than the IMF
>>64722196The goal of the US is cause instability and fighting in East Asia, or in better terms, "West Pacific"
>>64722209That's an objectively stupid goal.
Wumao tears are as delicious as the cum/chug/gers.
I see they’re still upset about losing the Tartus naval base.
Holy seethe! 64722196 64722209 Wumaos in pure unadulterated form today!>>64722195A couple more numbers :) Might I remind you that the US had a 4.3% print for Q3?
>>64722214now hes off to spam the board with more bait threads to take his mind off of it
>>64722124lmao @ any kind of victory while forced to wear brown skin
>BRICS chimp outlol
>>64722144zelemski be looking good, ngl
>>64722207every news outlet in the world has differing independent pictures of the place they aren't allowed lol
Taiwan doesn't have F-22 or F-35. Best they have are F-16, Mirage 2000 and a domestic F-16 clone.
>>64722273Posting the news pictures proving Russia is retarded is not Pro-Russian.
>>64722066Anon, look at the countries making up BRICS.
>>64722271shhhh its oke
>>64722265>Those who are committing crimes under duress should receive no consequences regardless of the crimeOK.
>>64722265Why should you get a free check to commit a crime just because you're made to?
>>64721965>captured and cucked on a helicopterdid delta really run a train on his wife on the helo ride back?
>>64722290>>64722296Habeas corpus, due process. If you got a gram of coke on you, they dont count I guess?
>>64722284Would Japan fight for Taiwan when the USA won't?
>>64722229The US economy is on AI-hype steroids and a unsustainable interest rate, and your current president is unreliable. Remove big tech from the equation and the US economy only grew 0,5% last year. There's either going to be a crash or a slow declineThe US economy is not doing well at all.
>>64721965He was wearing a blindfold and earmuffs so it never happened)))
>>64722182>turd worlders in disbelief at military competencekek it's like magic to them
>>64722303Habeas Corpus doesn't mean you can't kill enemy agents or foreign smugglers who refuse to stop smuggling into your country.If people are forced to smuggle as slaves, that's shitty for them, but that means the responsibility lies with their slavers.
>>64722303>narcostate drug runners is equivalent to "having only a gram on you"Your goalpost moving is tragic.
>>64722306Yes. It's not a question. Weren't you melting down about it 2 months ago?>>64722311>remove the driver of the global economyrow, rmaoQ3 CY25 had less NRFI AI capex than previous 2 quarters combined yet still contributed more to GDP, btw. AI demand is only going up.
>>64722186>-13% industrialSource
>>64722342Industrial production is up 4.8%, missing goals of 5% (lmao) but margins/profits are -13%.https://www.investing.com/news/economic-indicators/china-industrial-production-retail-sales-4407149https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/international/china-industrial-profits-decline-november-demand-cools
>>64722339AI demand is just hype, and its heavily subsidized. They're selling their services at a loss and the companies who buy them are not reporting any major efficiency increase for integrating AI in their business processes.I believe AI is going to be big in the future, but right now big tech cannot deliver on their promises so the market will correct itself.
>>64721892If it's not IntelSlavaZ, is it really news?
>>64722371>heavily subsidizedLMAOOOOOO are you looking at China where half of it is directly from the CCP and funneled into SOEs anyway? 96%+ of AI investment in the US is private capex.
>>64722265>the cartel uses innocent people in financial trouble or threatens them to be drug mulesyes cartels make life hell for everyone in south america, all the more reason to blow them and their assets up
>>64722371Cause what AI is good at right now is common simple shit. Organized my tool collection ok but that's not wonder-tech.
>>64722265shouldn't you be playing on that wii your wife's boyfriend bought you for cwistmas?
Is someone upset their grandfather was Japanese?
>>64721886Funny because this post sounds like>crap, our narrative is screwed
>>64722371You are incorrect. Consumer-grade LLMs are not the same as enterprise LLM utilization and other industrial neural network uses, ie in biochem running simulations to identify novel synthetic molecules that haven't been evolved yet.
>>64722176>stakesInvestment.>price controls Curbing monopolies isn't price controls.
>>64722185>goyslop>see Indian "food"Saaaaaaar
If they are indeed sub-par why would you even release a statement like this? The chinese have already forgotten about pelosi's little ewar adventure. Why not be content with their ignorance if you actually intend to fight them?
>>64722607>pelosi's little ewar adventureMy favorite thing to that the board always reminds me of. Reminder that a pair of growlers with ancient vacuum tube pods jammed half a dozen chink J-16Ds and Type 55 destroyers and stopped them tracking the flying barn door of the 737.
>>64722455> gov oligarchs create market rules to suit their needs> its only communism when Russians do it
>>64722607To embarrass their rival.China likely uses telemetry to analyze their own equipment while it's abroad. They know their AA failed. The public doesn't. The other countries who want to act cocky while using Chinese equipment as a shield don't know that. Telling everyone means fewer people learning the hard way.
>>64722066Is there anyone in BRICS capable of putting up a fight?
>>64721873Rumor has it that Venezuela's air defense and radar systems were rebooting over and over and couldn't stay online long enough to get a lock and shoot. It's been speculated the USA has developed a geo-targeted satellite weapon that can interfere with computer systems similar to the way solar flares and cosmic rays can flip bits in unshielded computer memory and cause system crashes.
>>64722265If an innocent person starts drug smuggling, they're no longer innocent.
>>64721892
Hmmmmm.......
>>64722841gookshill?
>>64721926>>64721965>>64722014>>64722413So where are the sources?
>>64722785>yeah, but look at the cool clips we got of the helicopters going nyaaaaaaaaa and then they were like booooooom and then those beaners were like "blargh i am ded" and the rest of the world (weak) was like "omg u guys are teh coolest!!!" or like "u can't do that >_<" (lol yes we can losers) so everything worked out for the best and USA is #1 ^_^ mission accomplished!Yeah, no, sorry bro, we're in full idiocracy. Try not to let the existential screaming inside get out.
>>64722785lmao yeah russia losing one of their hubs in the western hemisphere is totally in their interest. financing billions in arms to them only for said systems to be a paperweight when it really mattered is a russian and chinese victory.
>>64722785>>64722884you're both cancucksand the anon above me is fucking retarded LMAO
>i-if I start MIGAposting maybe it'll distract people from the utter failure of russian and chinese hardware!
>>64722928This is a canadian and /chug/'s chief baker
>>64722503>Killing commie drug mules is a WAR CRIME!!!
>>64721873something like 20% readiness does that to a motherucker
>>64722753USA EWAR too OP. Please nerf.
>>64721873Personally I would have preferred the chinks to discover that their equipment is shit during the attempted invasion of Taiwan and not before but whatever, cats out of the bag now
>>64722161unfortunately there is still the critical issue of China being non democraticIf China were to become a democracy Taiwan would ask to reunify on its own initiative, but as long as china remains non democratic Taiwan will never reunify
>>64721886
>>64721873They cut power to everything. Did Venezuela seriously not have their defense infrastructure setup with generators??? They can't be that dumb.
>>64722193KWAB
>>64722877Source is Maduro being chained in Brooklyn you dumb faggot.
>>64722161>China has no intention of invading Taiwan,so true ching chong. Neither did glorious Dear Leader monke intend to invade Ukraine until hohols forced his hand to
>>64722339>AI demand is only going up.demand for glorified chatbots and stock footage/music/art generators? LLMs are a joke bubble pumped up by the same small circle of companies passing around the same stack of cash in fake contracts to make stock line go up. While making pompous slogans in their company statements like how they are>saving humanity it will eventually burst and settle in its niches but much like crypto bros before it and dot com bubble before that its grossly overvalued for what it realistically can do
>>64722384>96%+ of AI investment in the US is private capex.very impressive. Now list the name of the companies behind that capex and what exactly has been payed for and what exactly has been built. Not promised, not planned but physically built
>>64724248>demand for glorified chatbots and stock footage/music/art generatorsNo, you fucking retard. How hard is it to understand that your consumer-grade crap is not the same thing as what companies are sinking billions/trillions into? Whether LLMs or other neural networking "AI" shit, you do not have access to (or even knowledge of, apparently) high grade enterprise products
>>64724257Openai is the only company doing cash burning without deep pockets, they've already been surpassed by Google Gemini models for this release cycle so they could disappear tomorrow and people would simply switch. Most of the hype that never comes to fruition comes from him anyway, as he's desperate for investor money. You've also missed the fact that front loading of 60% is a good thing, if all of the infra was built out on the capex you'd have no more direct economic activity and a huge chance for overcapacity. Having that cash still not be concrete allows you to pivot to r&d if things change.
>>64724201Maduro confessed to taking Chinese weapons and radars?
>>64724434>GeminiEasily the worst flagship in my experience, to include recent releases. It's better than previous editions but still noticeably worse than o4, GPT-5, Claude Sonnet 4.5, and even Grok. Maybe it's better for coding or whatever, but for highly complex and precise scientific information and problem solving, OpenAI actually has the lead.>t. medical science user>all chinese models are hilariously bad, btw
>>64724481The fucker is literally in the picture, inspecting the systems. Am I falling for chinkshill/vatnik proofposting?
>>64721887Great Chinese technology was merely pretending to be retarded.
>>64724712When war over Taiwan start, US will feel the might of the Dragon of the East!All weapons and radar will work at full 120% capabiluties, beyond your weak American minds!!
>>64723221Meaning the Yoinking Of Maduro is probably to Taiwan's benefit.See? The Americans are being good allies.
They are capable of detecting F-22 and F-35. The issue is that you'll also be detecting moth farts as well. The whole point of 'stealth' is that you can be seen if you throw enough shit at looking for it BUT you also end up getting gorllions of other things on your screen. Which then becomes difficult to actually target in a fucking mess of noise returns. So yeah, sure, they CAN detect them, but can they detect them and discern them as an actual enemy aircraft? Can they detect them on their own? Answer; no. >inb4 um achtually they can with quant-Shut up. That entire 'experiment' was them going>We can detect X using Y, even though Y isn't enough to detect F-22/F-35, but if you boost Y to Z levels then it will totally detect the F-22/F-35Okay?
>>64722339>Q3 CY25 had less NRFI AI capex than previous 2 quarters combined yet still contributed more to GDP, btw. AI demand is only going up.The AI bubble is unsustainable because the basic bitch infrastructure simply isnt there. AMD and Nvidia measures the sale of the AI chips in gigawatts (as in "Openai buys 10 gigawatts of Nvidia H200 AI accelerators"). The thing is that there is no spare 10 000 megawatts of power generation to fuel these AI processors, nor is there any kind of 10 000 megawatts of spare power distribution to transfer this power to the AI data center. But wait! There is a very simple solution to this. The AI companies, fueled with hundreds of billions of freshly printed debt money, can simply pay more money for them megawatthours that other companies or even you, so they will bid up the price of electric power to levels where other companies have to give up and run away. IIRC there is something like 35 000 megawatts of power production missing in America that is needed for these AI data centers.This AI boom will be absolutely murderous for main street America as they will be double squeezed from "price rationing" of electricity and local companies going bankrupt because they cant pay as much as the AI data center. The AI guys are doing short term solutions like hooking up gas turbines to natural gas pipes and building their data center nextdoors. Musk has like 20 mobile gas turbine trucks that he moves once a year for legal reasons so they are classified as temporary installations. Capturing the Venezuelan oil fields is actually a very good thing for american AI data companies because they can make makeshift power stations from gas turbines and fuel them with cheap venezuelan oil.Powering AI data centers with green energy such as solar and wind? Hahahahahaha forget it.
The Chinese are shocked and awed and so BTFO right now. They never expected anything like this could happen.
>>64724086>They cut power to everything. Did Venezuela seriously not have their defense infrastructure setup with generators??? They can't be that dumb.Yes. You have obviously never had to deal with dumb people before. The Veneralzuelan population DNA base consists of nafris, negroes, pajeet, sephard jew and native indian. Average IQ is ~80. That is why their oil industry was run by outsiders and thats why it just collapsed when these outsiders were expelled. You can't do anything with such stupid people and they are not just stupid, they are also violent and aggressive. But you are probably an american, raised on a diet of "we are all equal before god" and "racism is a sin" and "race is just skin color", so you cant understand this. You see scripted shows reinforcing your indoctrination on the TV and think that it is reality. I am pretty certain that the USA can take Venezuela easily. The problem will come afterwards, as there will be no real difference between criminal gangs and communist guerillas. The latter will pay the former for attacking americans. The former will sell drugs and lolis to the Americans to get money to pay the latter.
(cont)Specops in the deep venezuelan jungle will be quite interesting as Venezuela has a local population of the megatarantuala ambush predator known as "j'ba fofi" in western Africa. Its about 2 meters (6'7") between the leg tips when fully grown and it can jump 15 meters in one second. Its a trapdoor pit predator that lives in underground caves and hunts by shooting sticky threads from a camouflaged pit it digs near animal trails. Its nocturnal and has very good night vision. It is also very intelligent (think chimp tier) and appears to have some kind of crude clicking language. It can mark prey with a smell tracker that enables it to hunt down wounded prey. Unlike paranormal critters like Bigfoot the j'ba fofi appears to be a physical creature. It is nocturnal, lives in caves and burrows in the ground and uses a camouflaged pit to hunt prey from. It is cold blooded and suffers greatly from low temperatures like all insects. Its body form is also awful for conserving heat. My intuitive guess is that it also spawns many offspring which go outside the burrow to hunt, and the parent will consume these offspring and any prey it brings back, and the more offspring it produces, the more food it will have, so the big ones rarely leaves their burrows. Perhaps they are even too large for the exit hole. There have been reports of these megatarantulas killing US army soldiers at Fort Polk. The dead soldiers are listed as AWOL and no search is done. There have been reports of 1 foot wide tarantulas that likely were adolescent j'ba fofi. One was from the UK, and that spider was probably brought there by getting inside an USAF transport aircraft. It could surely not survive a british winter.
>>64724262>How hard is it to understand that your consumer-grade crap is not the same thing as what companies are sinking billions/trillions into?It is the same crap just trained on a different data set. What is sold as "AI" is not AI, it is neural network statistical analyzing. It has no independent capability to learn by just watching or search for knowledge by itself. And there is no way to stop it from hallucinating. A human brain is composed of many small brains, each specialized in one task. These brains form multi dimensional interweaved communications rings that cooperate to make natural intelligence. If these comm rings are disrupted or a sub brain is dysfuntional, you end up with an autist or a cluster-b psycho. And you have many sub brains and comm rings. Some of these are race restricted, euros and asians only. So, natural intelligence is like 1000x times more complex than state of the art "artificial intelligence". I saw this video of a small green pet parakeet that had taught itself to use an Ipad to watch bird videos on youtube. It would stroke the screen with its beak to scroll, then press the beak to the the screen when it saw a bird video it wanted to watch. There is not a single AI in existence that can do the same feat. That bird, with its pea sized brain, has a brain that is far more capable than any AI today, and there is no one who knows how to make an AI that is equally capable.
>>64725069>That is why their oil industry was run by outsiders and thats why it just collapsed when these outsiders were expelled.Actually the Venezuelan oil industry was ran by Venezuelans. They nationalized it in the 1970s and made a big deal out of developing a competent corps of local oil engineers and had the former owners sharing the knowhow with them. It was nationalized in relatively amicable terms (with compensation and mutual agreement) so that the transfer of knowhow would happen, and they kept doing business with the private owners.The guy who bungled all this up was Chavez because he was mad that he couldn't run the company himself and use its revenue for gibs and cronyism, as the oil company was government-owned but had its own autonomous leadership independent from whoever was president. So Chavez tried to bring the company under his heel, this resulted in a massive strike of the oil sector, which resulted in massive protests, a massacre of protestors, and a failed coup attempt which ultimately backfired as it streghtened Chavez.So when he returned to office with a strenghtened hand, Chavez had a chimpout, he wanted revenge on the oil company, so he fired 20,000 executives, oil engineers and other knowledgeable people and gave their positions to his cronies.Now all that knowhow has indeed fled the country and I highly doubt they would want to come back. So yeah, now the are back to the 1950s when it was either foreigners running shit or the oil staying on the ground.
(cont) AI isnt useless, its just that its applications are in process automation, not in skilled human replacement, which is what it is sold as. AI robots can be created to pick vegetables instead of illegals, but its impossible for american companies to make such designs, because the demand will never be there as long as there is disposable mexican slave labor available. Very much Late Roman Empire, which had a similar problem, but different. There are many use cases for AI, but none of them involves replacing anything else than mindless drudge work, and its possible for AI to do this precisely because its mindless, just like an AI. The israelis uses an AI called lavender to select targets for assassination by missile, but they do not understand what an AI is or how it does, so the AI had a bunch of western aid workers killed by missiles because they visited locations (hospitals, aid distribution centers etc) which had been tagged as hamas centers. A human would never do such a mistake because we are actually intelligent. Considering the amount of jews involved in the AI hype, I can only say this is a good example of huffing your own farts.
>>64725069There's probably somewhat of a racial component to intellect (just look at Abbos), but I think that you should theoretically be able to improve the average IQ of a population by cracking down on inbreeding, improving diets (less starvation and better nutrition in childhood helps brains develop better), and also trying to extinguish certain self-destructive cultural traditions, and in some, certain substance abuses.When you look at the native population in Greenland, they're one of those phenotypes which lack the enzyme to break down alcohol properly, which is why all of them are crazy bad alcoholics over there.Back when coof first began, they got cut off from liquor imports for a while, and they saw a sharp and sudden drop in their otherwise world leading rates of familial sexual abuse (a statistic which also makes them lead the world in suicide statistics). Of course, it wouldn't take all that long for them to start drinking again regardless, because even an idiot who ruined his own life can brew up some swill in his prison cell, and the addiction of being a lifelong alcoholic would be a powerful impulse to overcome, but it's an interesting example.I don't think you could wave a magic wand and have perfect equals, but I think it's potentially possible to moderate some populations to improve averages, to make them less troublesome for both themselves and others.That said, even if a population would be receptive to that, that wouldn't be trivial, and pragmatic returns are unlikely to be massive, so I'm not advocating for The White Man's Burden here either (some populations would obviously be harder than others, also).
>>64725091>So, natural intelligence is like 1000x times more complex than state of the art "artificial intelligence". I saw this video of a small green pet parakeet that had taught itself to use an Ipad to watch bird videos on youtube. It would stroke the screen with its beak to scroll, then press the beak to the the screen when it saw a bird video it wanted to watch. There is not a single AI in existence that can do the same feat. That bird, with its pea sized brain, has a brain that is far more capable than any AI today, and there is no one who knows how to make an AI that is equally capable.The overestimation of all this LLM technology is absolutely insane to me, some really refuse to see how limited and stunted that current AI really is. The complexity of the brain of even a relatively primitive animal (a feline or canine), is leagues ahead of this shit, and the relatively high intellect of things like elephants and certain bird species I think are a very good reason to treasure those creatures.
>>64721873Taiwan is going to have the United States, the Philippines, and Japan in its corner in a war. The USA already has heavy investment, munitions, and FAFO in place.
>>64722607>>64722652https://www.eurasiantimes.com/us-wins-1st-round-of-electronic-warfare-bout-against-china/> The Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post (SCMP) reported on August 14 that Chinese and US forces engaged in reconnaissance and electronic warfare before and after Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan, in which China lost.> The purpose of tracking was “deterrence,” according to PLA Major General Meng Xiangqing of the PLA National Defense University, cited by CCTV. However, PLA’s tracking efforts which involved the J-16D aircraft and a Type 055 destroyer, failed, reported SCMP, citing an unnamed Chinese military source.> “The PLA deployed some electronic warfare aircraft such as the J-16D and warships to try to locate Pelosi’s aircraft, but were not successful,” the report said. “Almost all the PLA electronic warfare equipment couldn’t work because they were all jammed by electronic interference by the American aircraft strike group sent by the Pentagon to escort her.”> According to He Yuan Ming, an independent airpower analyst, it is not surprising that the Type 055 was not able to detect Pelosi’s aircraft, who noted that “the Type 055 (destroyer’s) radar is said to be 500-kilometer (310 miles),” but its “effective range in the real world would be much less.” “Couple this with the vast operating area as well as the Type 055’s relative newness both in terms of its hardware (capabilities) and software (crew), there should be little surprise that the PLA (naval) cruiser could not locate (Pelosi’s plane),” Ming told SCMP.
>>64722877Where are the radar?
>>64725183Indeed.https://mb.com.ph/2025/08/19/over-500-military-activities-between-afp-us-approved-for-2026?hl=en-UShttps://www.reuters.com/world/china/taiwan-says-us-has-initiated-111-billion-arms-sale-procedure-2025-12-18/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/26/japan-defence-budget-china
>>64725180LLM "AI"s are doing the opposite of natural evolution of intelligence, in the hope that it can be done in a few years instead of over the course of multiple millennia.>Organic intelligence=extreme selection bias for efficiency AND intellect, if humans needed 4x the nutrition to keep our brains, well, we wouldn't have them because the humans who had them would die of malnutrition. Human intellect is made of millions of generations of selection to get an efficient system of intertwined "neural networks" that all seamlessly mesh together>Artificial Intelligence/LLMs, (LLMs are not "artificial intelligences". At least not yet.). extreme selection bias for language ability over even basic intelligence, at the absolutely huge cost of efficiency. Presumably the hope of these AI companies is to get the AI actually working THEN start making it more efficient, as of now however it is basically a kitchen sink of bullshit thrown together with no respect for not being a bloated piece of shit.There's also that whole crackpot theory that human intelligence may be a quantum physics phenomenon because human brains can make conscious choices at a faster rate than neurons can even fire off in high stress situations, and as such trying to make a computer that behaves like a human brain is an inherently flawed idea. Here's some clickbait bullshit for a summary- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXElfzVgg6M
>>64725317Organic intelligence is a property of the SOUL.Get >>>/lit/
>>64721873The problem is that Trump is not going to defend or support TaiwanHow many F-22 and F35 do Taiwan have?
>>64725340What if the "soul" is the quantum images created by your brain?What if God created his world with quantum physics as it's baseline divine foundation?If anything this is the closest thing science nerds have to actual evidence of a "soul" as it implies there is more to human brains than just meat, and that trying to make a computer that can behave like a human mind is an inherently flawed idea.
>>64725343Missed this?>>64722284>>64722339
>>64721873>>64725257>unknown technology aiya!
>>64725091>There is not a single AI in existence that can do the same featThis is in fact very easy, but tons of time and effort is deliberately spent making LLMs avoid having opinions unless directly asked. Once you have an analog to human neuronal structure in place, you can essentially have it do anything humans do. Is it often emulating what humans do? Sure, but that's how humans learn, too. >A human brain is composed of many small brains, each specialized in one task. These brains form multi dimensional interweaved communications rings that cooperate to make natural intelligence. This isn't really correct. While certain areas of the brain do have increased work in certain tasks, virtually all functions occur via wide neuronal networks; individual sections are not "small brains" or self contained. A better analogy would be a multithreaded computer processor: while different cores can be largely doing different things simultaneously, they are fundamentally a single processing unit.>Some of these are race restricted, euros and asians onlyCompletely untrue, physiologically speaking. I'm not saying that there is no race-IQ correlation, merely that there are zero structural differences between brains of different races.>>64725162>AI isnt useless, its just that its applications are in process automation, not in skilled human replacement, which is what it is sold as. I hate to burst your bubble, but it is completely capable of skilled human replacement. Much of what we call "skilled labor" is actually repetitive and structured tasks, which take time to learn but are simple once learned - what you call drudge work, but with barriers to entry. In these professions, AI can completely replace you. Data analysis? Drudge work. Civil and industrial engineering? Drudge work. Lawyer? Drudge work. Accountant? HR? Most other white collar professions? All can be replaced by LLMs alone. The only ones who survive will be those who learn to use those LLMs.
>>64725317There's no quantum bullshittery, but the core problem (for computing) is that we have everything on a digital system of 1s and 0s. At the base level, everything is either true or untrue; on or off; yes or no. By comparison, neurons operate on gradients. Whether or not an action potential will be triggered is, at least for gray matter neuron bodies, dependent on multiple simultaneous inputs, each of which have different strengths. Imagine a series of pipes that can pump water into a tank. These pipes can be turned off and on very quickly. The tank has a hole in the bottom, such that water drains unless more is pumped in than can drain out per unit time. If you turn on the thinnest pipes, water will flow into the tank, but it will never fill up; but, they are contributing to the total flow. What if you have those, plus a couple of the bigger pipes turned on? Now, there is enough flow to fill the tank, and when it overflows, that is when a signal is released. This is how a neuron works. It has cumulative inputs, and a more or less digital output (there is some nuance here but that's beyond the level of discussion for a general audience)The above system is the most basic level of processing in your brain. It is to your brain what 1s and 0s are to a computer. But to emulate that structure with present-day computers, you need a long string of calculations. This decreases efficiency. You could change the fundamental hardware, but on top of how difficult this obviously is in general, it will ultimately be much less energy and space efficient so long as it is on silicon or any other inorganic medium. I've considered how computing might overcome these limits, and my conclusion is that lab-grown biological neurons are probably the only way. Bio-computing. Of course, I'm a life sciences professional, so that could be my own bias talking. But I do think the days of completely inorganic computing are numbered.
>>64724975Also gotta reply to this particularly retarded post to just say that the sudden return of massive investment into nuclear power, and the opening of new nuclear reactors in already saturated energy markets, is solely due to the increased energy demand. Microsoft essentially bought Three Mile Island to use as their own private power source; other companies will be striking similar deals and are the impetus for renewed power demand (which will be addressed with nuclear or otherwise). My investment into GEV is doing quite nicely.
>>64725317>There's also that whole crackpot theory that human intelligence may be a quantum physics phenomenon because human brains can make conscious choices at a faster rate than neurons can even fire off in high stress situationsHuh, that's both a fascinating theory, an also something I had never heard of (also incredibly fascinating). Are those reactions observable in animals to any degree? Elephants are commonly said to be as smart as a 14 year old human, for instance.>>64725340I always figured that if the soul was a real thing in any religious sense, then it'd be contained in your brain and be part of your mind.
>>64725656>This is in fact very easy, but tons of time and effort is deliberately spent making LLMs avoid having opinions unless directly asked.The bird set the target for itself. It felt a desire to watch bird videos. It was not told to search for bird videos. It was not taught the proper answer. It looked at the human using the Ipad and observed the changes on the screen as a response to the finger moving over the screen. Its tiny pea brain did a causality analysis and concluded that stroking the screen scrolls the screen, and tapping the screen selects a video. Show me an AI that can set its own target, do a visual analysis of whats happening in meatspace, record causality of events witnessed and use that knowledge to learn a new thing. Also, that parakeet was scrolling for videos of other parakeets. It could recognize its own kind of the screen. In practical terms, if AIs could do thinking at the same level as this parakeet, you could train them to pick apples just by having them watch a film of people picking apples. There is no AI that can be trained that way. What we have are text generators that give the illusion of intelligence because they can generate coherent text on the basis of millions of pages of text that they have incorporated in their structure. The AI does not understand what the text represents. It just gives the illusion of doing so. And this is enough to fool boomer investors because "It can talk! Its alive! An artificial house nigger! And its gonna make me rich!"LLMs are the most modern version of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
>>64722934why isn't he eating it
>>64725742>The bird set the target for itself. It felt a desire to watch bird videos. It was not told to search for bird videos. It was not taught the proper answer. It looked at the human using the Ipad and observed the changes on the screen as a response to the finger moving over the screen. Its tiny pea brain did a causality analysis and concluded that stroking the screen scrolls the screen, and tapping the screen selects a video. If you took a low-grade LLM and simulated the early life and instincts of a bird, it would be capable of the same thing. You don't go and look at random bird videos either, because you're also not a bird who just observed a human doing that.>Show me an AI that can set its own target, do a visual analysis of whats happening in meatspace, record causality of events witnessed and use that knowledge to learn a new thing.Most present-day flagships are capable of this when hooked up to the appropriate tools.>The AI does not understand what the text represents. It just gives the illusion of doing so. You are very very fucking wrong. I was floored when I realized the depth of understanding of my field that actually exists in these flagships (particularly OpenAI models). It is completely capable of creating plausible hypotheticals about unexplored concepts, based on existing research. If that doesn't reflect understanding, I don't know what does.Like anon, hate to break it to you, but your inability to use or comprehend LLMs in these advanced functions are a product of YOUR inability to understand, not the machine's. You most likely lack the depth of knowledge in any particular subject that would be required to construct tests of understanding beyond a basic level. Which is fine. The world needs you more than it needs me, now, thanks to AI.
>>64725730>Microsoft essentially bought Three Mile Island to use as their own private power source;This is exactly what I am talking about when I say that AI companies will starve the real world economy of electricity by outbidding them. Next is natural gas, AI companies will outbid real world customers by outbidding them for natural gas deliveries and then use the gas to run gas turbine generators. Local politicians will go from "yeah! new jerbs" to "fuck this shit" when real world companies start to go bankrupt because they cant survive the increasing scarcity of electricity and natural gas. >In these professions, AI can completely replace you. Data analysis? Drudge work. Civil and industrial engineering? Drudge work. Lawyer? Drudge work. Accountant? HR? Most other white collar professions? All can be replaced by LLMs alone. The only ones who survive will be those who learn to use those LLMs.AI has already been used in white collar work like lawyering and call center with disastrous hilariously results because hallucinations are inherent in the type of AI we have. If you understood how these things work, you would not be impressed by them.
>>64725854I remember that, the AI citing case law which it had simply imagined to exist.
>>64725820Nobody eats obligate carnivores anon, they taste horrible
>>64725829>If you took a low-grade LLM and simulated the early life and instincts of a bird, it would be capable of the same thing. You don't go and look at random bird videos either, because you're also not a bird who just observed a human doing that.LLMs are constructed like the nerve system of a worm but boosted to enormous size. We have enough data power to emulate the pea brain of a parakeet buuuut the problem is that we do not know how the parakeet brain is structured. And AIs are extremely crude things compared to a parakeet brain precisely because they lack the structure of a parakeet brain. You cant solve the structure problem by throwing more computing resources at it like the AI companies are doing.
>>64722014>memory-hole'd Maduro that quickly>Commies are insects without souls.I'm probably the idiot for being surprised, but I actually still get a little mad somehow when I remember the literal millions of posts shilling the invincibility and brilliance of this guy and then how after a decade of that he was very abruptly never mentioned again
>>64725867>You cant solve the structure problem by throwing more computing resources at it like the AI companies are doing.NO, SHUT UP, YOU'RE SCARING MY INVESTOR!
>>64725867>responds to a reasoned, rational response by repeating the exact same points that just got refutedbased retard
>>64725867>>64725953lmfao
>>64722014The tankies are comparing Maduro to Jesus getting crucified.
>>64725829>It is completely capable of creating plausible hypotheticals about unexplored concepts, based on existing research. If that doesn't reflect understanding, I don't know what does.It is capable of regurgitating bullshit that reads like a recent journal article because it was fed millions of recent journal articles, most of which are bullshit. Please complete the picture by telling us what gay ass pretend field you work in.
>>64726020Medicine, which tends to have a bit more complexity and legitimacy than whatever bullshit you read in mainstream media. Please continue coping about your imminent replacement I suppose. You should be adaptable, not reflexively defensive, looking for any mote of copium you can find.
>>64722089>hyphenated last nameImagine having your country's leader be a man ashamed of being a man
>>64726036So you're NOT qualified to talk about either neuroscience nor LLM technology?
>>64725964At this point I genuinely miss the neonazis and stormfagsWhen/how did they all get replaced with unironic Muslims and FARCs?
>>64722207how retarded can you be. American journalists have been in the Oval Office many times this admin
>>64726062Not him but why don't the people who opine on AI ever mention non-LLM models?
>>64726067>replaced byIt's what they've become.
>>64726076How do you become arab or latino
>>64726073What's the point? All of the investment in "AI" is in LLMs because AI agents were supposed to replace a large chunk of the workforce. That's like being upset that we only talk about fighter aircraft and not transport even though both are military aviation. Other models have mostly found their niche and that's that.
>>64726073I haven't discussed it because it's beyond the average person's capacity for discussion. Really it takes an expert in any given field to understand the implementations. The shit big pharma has cooking up with neural network tech is crazy. But I don't know much about other fields' non-LLM usage. Within medicine specifically, the biggest industry-specific AI company is OpenEvidence, which is pretty good but just a purpose-built LLM.>>64726062I'd say I'm qualified to talk about neuroscience, and I've done my own research into both LLM tech and commercial uses for it. It's clearly quite a bit more than you, since you're fascinated by a video of a bird scrolling through tiktok, and somehow believe this to be impossible for modern supercomputers
>>64726036Medicine has plenty of complexity and a serious lack of legitimacy. Every year there's a new set of previous gospel theories getting thrown out and miracle drugs that never make it beyond rodent models. Any halfway plausible sounding bullshit proposition is enough to make a whole career off of if you can sell it, clinical results be dammed. In that sense I will concede that LLMs will be very useful to people in your field, just not to the patients.
>>64726096I'm not the guy who posted about the bird video.>>64726097>In that sense I will concede that LLMs will be very useful to people in your field, just not to the patients.lmao, I like your style.
>>64726097>>64726128I accept your concession.
>>64725829>he fell for the glorified predictive-type algorithmlol, lmao
>>64722161yeah that's why they run into each other chasing flip ships. soft power
>>64722371Many chinese industries heavily subsidized, its a centrally planned economy. What about the 10 trillion dollars in debt racked up by provincial governments which china keeps off the books
>>64721873Those were Ukrainian radars
>>64722306Japan announced it will fight for taiwan, and as members of G6, if japan is targeted or attacked by china, the United states must respond. This is why the chinese chimped out. Covert signaling.
>>64722768Microwave directed energy weapons.
>>64724703So I can make up anything and attach in image to it and you'd believe me? Where is the hard evidence that China sent Venezuela advanced radars?
>>64724248People are going to flame me but AI is actually super useful for research. You can compress what wouldve been hundreds of hours of research into minutes because the LLM does the scraping for you. Vibe coding is also a MASSIVE leap in capability but nobody here is ready for that conversation.
>>64726218https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3338912/venezuela-attack-seen-reminder-china-boost-air-defence-counter-intelligencehttps://www.twz.com/air/status-of-venezuelas-air-defense-capabilities
>>64722877>So where are the sources?This. I'm not believing anything without proofs
>>64724703>The fucker is literally in the pictureYou STILL can't recognize AI image style? He looks like a fusion of Hitler and Saddam for Jesus Christ(our lord and saviour)'s sake, plus the "radar" looks like a camouflaged washboard.
Is this thirdie retarded
>>64726318Yes
>>64725964So what are the charges against his wife?
>>647263142022 retard. How does it feel to be so confidently wrong?https://albertonews.com/principales/ultima-hora-alto-diplomatico-de-rusia-confirma-presencia-de-radares-militares-en-la-frontera-con-venezuela-detalles/https://xn--eltequeo-j3a.com/alto-diplomatico-de-rusia-confirma-presencia-de-radares-militares-rusos-en-la-frontera-venezuela-colombia/
>>64726353Give proofs or I accept your concessioned
>>64726345Cocaine importation conspiracy, possession of machine guns and destructive devices, and conspiracy to posses machine guns and destructive devices, as well as the broader Narco-Terrorism conspiracy they're all getting hit with.
>>64723221The chinks surely already knew their military tech is dogshit
>>64726496>possession of machine guns and destructive deviceswatDid he bring machine guns with him on a visit to the US or something? Or was picrel a violation of US law?
>>64725871There's an instagram page that just posts about an upcoming biopic about Bashar Al-Assad featuring Cillian Murphy as the titular character and I always lose my shit when the comments don't get it's a parody account.
>>64726176From China's PoV they don't consider the Philippines as a real country but rather a weak vassal of America that they don't really care about. Even if China bombs Manila or kidnaps their President, America won't give two shits even excluding the orange man.They've decided that they will never have any serious diplomatic relations with the Philippines so all bets are off with them and they can simply bribe politicians to be on their side. They don't treat the other Southeast Asian nations like this, only the Philippines. Even if they see the rest of Southeast Asia as their own turf, they still somewhat treat the countries sans for one with some modicum of tact and respect.
>>64722161They'd have to stop diaspora chinks from running scams and go a month without electrocuting all the fish in somebody else's EEZ.
>>64725656>In these professions, AI can completely replace you. Data analysis? Drudge work. Civil and industrial engineering? Drudge work. Lawyer? Drudge work. Accountant? HR? Most other white collar professions? All can be replaced by LLMs alone.We're going to run out of power long before any of that happens, present-day LLMs are worthless for even the simplest tasks involving things that aren't just 1s and 0s. IT people just like glazing them because they work ok in programming if the human in the equation already knows what he's doing
>>64725317>>64725706>people who dont understand the very basics of neuron net talking about how these things workIt's so fucking sad and hilarious.Floating point value is used because it provides highly granular numerical gradient. The system computes the next word is .0000002% unlikely to be "dolphin" because you asked about how high a cat can jump but it also computed a .387544 relation to the word mouse, because mice are famously social-idea related to cats.You know, my car has a neural net. Most if not almost all you see by now do.I can even reprogram it.It takes 17 engine sensors and guesses the intake airflow with a 99.985% accuracy. All by computing the variances in data relationship and ratio.The values all look something like this:>1.74727284858573>0.2948575738282>0.005483828484>1.0129384848338Etc.Gradient enough for you, you fucking clown? My neurons sure as fuck can't potentiate down to a billionth of a digit.
>>64727357This is the first time in your life you're going to hear this and it won't be the last.I'm going to reprogram my balls into your mouth.Nerd.
>>64725656AI cannot do law, several lawyers have already gotten laughed out of courtrooms or even outright disbarred for trying because their AIs keep referencing cases and laws that dont existSpeaking in my professional capacity as an engineer, there is no amount of money you could pay me to drive over a bridge designed by an AI
>>64726693who fucking knows, trump recently pardoned another drug trafficking president who was convicted of the same crimes he is accusing maduro ofIts selective law enforcement, you aren't supposed to ask questions
>>64727408>Speaking in my professional capacity as an engineer, there is no amount of money you could pay me to drive over a bridge designed by an AISome dude on the radio, I guess his field was behavioral analysis or something, said that if he were in the field of shipbuilding, according to his experiments AI would be capable of building a leaking rowboat. That would then immediately sink. I think all the arguments about current LLMs being just consumer toys are cope (although that's what they are) because Copilot is, absolutely, billed for professionals and everyone still says it's a terrible piece of shit
>>64726496I read that this was a common charge in cartel cases where drug trafficking + possession of machine guns has a more severe penalty. Don't know how this works when he was the head of state and commanded armored units and fighter squadrons.
Chinabros it's over, the Nips are now making fun of us on a public occasion, questioning competence of our state of the art weapons neutralized by the US....>Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lin Jian hosted a regular press conference on January 5, 2026.>TV Tokyo reporter: Venezuela purchased a large amount of Chinese weaponry, but this equipment does not appear to have played a role in the US attack. What is the spokesperson's comment on this?>Lin Jian: China firmly supports the status of the Latin American and Caribbean Zone of Peace, opposes the use or threat of force in international relations, and opposes bullying acts that violate the UN Charter and infringe upon the sovereignty of other countries.https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/web/fyrbt_673021/202601/t20260105_11806730.shtml
>>64727408I’ve been on a team working on implementing ai In standards/code and legsl judgement parsing applications for the past year, and we’re still at the point where a mediocre college intern with a week of training is much more detailed and reliable than any of the current models.
>>64725732just search "cat vs [any animal]" on youtube
>>64725317>LLMs are not "artificial intelligences". At least not yet.They've already advanced way past all prior working definitions of A.I outside of sci-fi bs. And when they get even better you will just move the goalposts again. Dumb human. This is a known phenomena within the field (repeatedly readjusting the definition of "A.I" every time we get close to meeting it).
>>64721873>Beijing has claimed
taiwan will get fucked up, but so will china. which is why you likely won't see china try. no one will want to willingly walk into a ukraine, and china is quite sensitive about being humiliated.
>>64725953>>responds to a reasoned, rational response by repeating the exact same points that just got refuted>based retardYou dont get it. A bird has multiple sub brains, just like a human. And they are interweaved with each other and the birds sensory organs and its innate genetic programming in ways we do not understand. That youtube surfing parakeet, with its pea sized brain, contains mindware that is way way way beyond any human AI and it is far more intelligent that any human made AI despite having a brain the size of a pea. It can actually think and act and learn on the fly and eject bad information from its memory and do stuff that the AI companies can only dream about. The problem with LLMs is that they output text. People think that "if it can talk, then it can think" which is untrue. LLMs are the latest evolution of Eliza the chatbot from the 1960s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
>>64725829>If you took a low-grade LLM and simulated the early life and instincts of a bird, it would be capable of the same thing.No it would not. The internal computation structure of a bird brain is far more advanced than any LLM. You are claiming that because we have this working artificial mechanical worm we can make artificial mechanical people.>>64725829>Like anon, hate to break it to you, but your inability to use or comprehend LLMs in these advanced functions are a product of YOUR inability to understand, not the machine's.Anon, when I was younger, I studied software engineering (not programming) at technical university in the 1990s. Software engineering isnt programming because it started as an offshoot of electric engineering focused on programming the then rather primitive computers. So it was a lot of very low level understanding and a lot of math which you do not get in a programming course. Ofc, we also studied data structures, algorithms and complexity. And these neural network things that you are so infatuated with are not new, it was just that back in the 90s, they were tiny, because the computers we had then had a compute capability that was a tiny weeny fraction of what you can do on a modern CPU/GPU. They had their use in visual systems like mail sorting, automated visual inspection for quality assurance and such things because they solve the computational problem of handling ambiguity, also called fuzzy logic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic
>>64727817Ai ya ya! Angly to die! Angly to die!
>>64727418I understand the concept of choosing not to enforce the law where it's politically inconvenient, I can't wrap my head around the idea of charging someone in another country with an NFA violation, especially in the context of a head of state who essentially owns an entire military's worth of machine guns and destructive devices.
>>64726205>if japan is targeted or attacked by china, the United states must respond.Why?
>>64729284Because it's bound to by treaty?
>>64725656Until AIs are capable of functioning with memory as a multi-stage storage of at least temporary storage, active and directed re-weighting plus active rewiring of the network it's a glorified chatbot.
>>64727985LLM is something that you can intergrate into an AI, it is not an AI unto itself, and it's also very limited in what it can do, it cannot actually simulate a complex intelligence like normalfags think it can.
>>64729864>LLM is something that you can intergrate into an AI, it is not an AI unto itselfYou have no idea what you're talking about.
>>64727985Advanced enough to call mistakes they make as "hallucinations".
>>64730100okay but what about metro Manila do you slants still want that for the co-prosperity hypersphere?
>>64730100Banzai! \o/
>>64728954>I can't wrap my head around the idea of charging someone in another country with an NFA violation, especially in the context of a head of state who essentially owns an entire military's worth of machine guns and destructive devices.Its not impossible that this accusation was dreamed up by an AI.
>>64728954>>64731905Assuming that they actually intend to push the charges, it's going to be related to bringing them into the US. "Ruining the nation and people of Venezuela" isn't a crime under US law, so they're scraping together whatever the cartels he supports are doing and pushing it on him. Maybe we'll get really lucky and they'll pull out a display case of AKs with Venezuelan serials on the trial floor.
>>64731919>Maybe we'll get really lucky and they'll pull out a display case of AKs with Venezuelan serials on the trial flooThats just nonsense. Its like holding the US president responsible for americans smuggling guns into Mexico (which actually happens). Its precisely beause of this absurdity that I suspect that this accusation was AI generated.
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>>64725166>There's probably somewhat of a racial component to intellect (just look at Abbos),No. There is no scientific basis for this "probably" statement. Genetics is 95% of your IQ. The current official dogma that you channel in your post goes against thousands of years of experience in animal breeding just for starters. There are major IQ differences between men and women, where women falls short of men. This is glossed over in IQ test suites which simply give low weight to tests that women and colored people do bad in so they barely influence the final score. F.ex the reverse number sorting test should be very high weight, but it isnt. Men do much better in visual-spatial tests than but these are also low score weight. The reason for this? Men have a much more well developed right side cortex than women. Where is visual-spatial IQ important? In understanding causality, abstract reasoning, complex pattern recognition and much more.There is so much about you that you think is your choice or from your environment but isnt. Your entire personality is preprogrammed by genetics. If we take a look at dogs for instance we have multiple races which are known for particular traits. A human brain is much larger than a dog brain and can be outfitted with far more complex genetically programmed behavior patterns. All this understanding is completely banned from official academia.
>>64738716Using the only reasonable definition of IQ, "the thing that's measured by an IQ test," genetics absolutely does not have a 95% contribution. Your results on an IQ test can be affected by over 5% simply by not sleeping well the night before.
>>64738716>Genetics is 95% of your IQ.(nta) Great way to demonstrate you have no clue what you're talking about lol. Yes there is a race/genetic component, and any expert who says otherwise is blinding themselves to factual truth because of politics. But culture and upbringing are just as, if not more, contributory. Hence why we get incredibly sharp scientists immigrating from India, West Africa, etc. They were all born into the wealthy and educated classes in their home countries. Genetics has a larger part in concrete deficiencies that decrease intelligence, but none of these are common in any race. Perhaps you should learn the subject before regurgitating 4chan talking points
>>64721873they did not fail ! they were disabled
>>64721873thoughts
>>64739459Guess what, half of the PLA's installed 'Anti stealth' radars are JY-27A radars. The rest is the also 10 year old YLC-8B. The JY-27V was unveiled at an airshow in July last year. Gee cool your super anti stealth radar exists on paper but it'll take 5+ years to phase out the old one in any meaningful volume.
>>64721873are you being serious right now?come on
>>64721873Between this and the laughable performance of Russian radars/sams in Ukraine I have been forced to reach the conclusion that eastern AA is a complete meme, only capable of engaging(but not even reliably identifying) passenger aircraft in an uncontested EW environment. From this day forward I will never be able to take a threat from a russkie or Chinaman seriously. They are such pathetic jokes that the english language lacks a suitable term for them.>Can't detect and engage 40yr old non stealth rocket artillery reliably>Routine large FPV and small plane sized drone penetrations of protected air spaceAll the speculation of saturation attacks were wrong, they just can't do it, at least not with any sense of reliability>Couldn't even find pelosis planeSpeaks for itself>Accidentally engaged multiple passenger airlinersHanlon's razor at work, what we all assumed to be typical Eurasian malice wasn't. The systems literally told the operators that they were military jets. We just didn't realize how shit they were back then
