We have just seen the US carry out Operation Absolute Resolve, a flawless raid in Venezuela but there's so much more than what meets the eye.The fact that the Nightstalkers could just infil and exfil on gunships guns blazing is insane in the era of gay drones and MANPADS. They didn't even have to worry about the overall IADS. IR dazzlers or just shooting back was very effective against any fuckers that tried to get a shot off. More than half of the air assets in theater being SIGINT and EW just shows the importance of spectral dominance in addition to SEAD and as SEAD itself. It's obvious Growlers used their brand spanking new mid-band Growler pods to jam fire control radars, F-35s used their Barracuda suites, but what the EC-130H's were doing could be anyone's guess. But the power went out and that says something.
>>64721934Now onto strategy, this has been the biggest domino in a stack to ruin China's energy status.What we just saw was kinetic action in the US' own backyard leading to cataclysmic economic follow on effects for China... And Canada if they don't behave. Beyond the chinks losing any influence there, which was literally their main island in the American hemisphere, if (when) a new leader is installed, they'll default on what remains of the $60b loan+$40b ghost chinese loan and the shadow fleet will stop selling cheap loan repayment 700k barrels a day of Venezuelan oil to them. Canada has zero leverage left for the upcoming USMCA negations in July as Venezuelan oil being on the table now totally undercuts Canada's heavy crude leverage. Canada MUST listen to Trump about China and everything else on that negotiating table or get their economy crushed by losing out on 1m~ BPD of oil sales a day. The terms of the deal will include mirroring US or Mexican tariffs on China, at the very minimum. Probably adding KYC for Toronto and Vancouver properties too so then chinks stop laundering their money there.Now we must keep in mind that it's not that the chinks can't buy the oil, they now gotta do it on the spot market instead of through predatory repayment deals, inflating costs by at least 10%, triple that if Iran falls, and shredding their already negative margins.Who's next?>Iran is about to collapse and Trump is threatening kinetic action if they try any funny business>Cuba has their tap turned off with 80k BPD of Venezuelan oil under US watch>Somaliland and South Yemen are about to enter US orbit and would give the US total permanent land based control over a 20 mile wide stretch of the Red SeaPage 435 for the Venezuela loan numbers. Whole doc is quite a good read.>https://docs.aiddata.org/reports/chasing-china/Chasing_China_Full_Report.pdf
I hope the mods move this to /pol/ instead of deleting it outright, as the OP is higher effort than 99% of threads there.
I'm so fucking tired of Canada being a target bros. We went from >The US isn't threatening Canada>The US is threatening Canada to protect itself >The US is actively trying to destabilize CanadaYou are here>The US is trying to enact regime change in Canada >The US is invading Canada
>>64722125Aren't they destabilizing themselves by importing jeets?
>>64721934EC-130 can jam or takeover communications over many frequencies. It can also be a communications relay platform to receive and send communications.
>>64722132not an argument, since Elon and Vance love jeets
>>64722158Sounds like a non sequitur
>>64722136Do you think the cyberattacks were carried out from the ground or from within then?
>>64721934>MH-60MOh, that one Anon was right. Sorry I doubted him.
>>64722499The early videos shows chinooks and some variant of blackhawks with them, and what looked like a late-model AH1.
>>64721934>self defense Lol, lmao
>>64721934I'm just glad the old tradition of proving and killing the presence of cuban involvement hasn't died.
>>64721935What the fuck, those things are invisible. How? What kind of paint is that? They literally produce zero light. Holy shit.
So are flak cannons back on the menu?
>>64721935>Venezuelan oil being on the table now totally undercuts Canada's heavy crude leverageNot in the short term. Estimates are calling for at least 3 years of heavy infrastructure investment minimum before we could begin to see production levels approach that of 15 years ago. On top of that added production will push down prices which will knock back on how much they're willing to invest in infrastructure until an equilibrium is reached.
>>64721935>advanced copetop 10 ways to reveal you don't know anything about the oil patch or resource trading. look at the capex and timescales, retard-kun. you may notice nobody's biting.
>>64723309>>64723328Didn't say anything about scaling up beyond 1m BPD by end Q2 26. Obviously any Chevron engineers going back will be just cleaning pumps and replacing valves. I'm just setting the baseline on what the production currently is at.
>the BONE did thingsnice.
>>64721934>extraction force included DOJSo maybe someone can explain the point of including American law enforcement during this operation? Was one of them a sheriff who read Maduro the Miranda? Or did they have to wait until they officially crossed into America to “legally” arrest him?
>>64723404If they were on the ground, then yes, they probably Mirandized him in the bunker. Otherwise his counsel would have grounds to try and get the case thrown out for improper arrest procedures.
>>64723428Maybe Trump'll pardon him for drug trafficking like he did with the president of Honduras?
>>64723428Couldn't any Delta operative be deputized and give the Miranda rights? Moreover since this is a matter of international law and the arrest took place on foreign soil do proper American arrest procedures apply?
>>64723435Personally, I'd like to see him returned to face trial in Venezuela, but that's going to require their system to commit to the bit first.
>>64723428That would be too severe a remedy. They just wouldn't admit any statements he made before he was read his rights.
>>64723445DoD has an established and practiced history of doing whatever the fuck they want to whoever they want and making shit up to justify it along the way. Making leadership removal seem legit is easy work
>>64723445He's being charged under US law. Strictly speaking, this is an extradition without treaty. The Mirandization must be given either at A: time of arrest or B: when a person that is not under arrest starts being questioned. I'm unsure about the Delta deputization, though. Could be possible.
>>64723453This is true>>64723448That'd be funny
>>64721934>pic leaves out AH-1Z Viper for support even though you can clearly see them in combat footageMarines shafted AGAIN
>>64723404They brought along some Feds to physically arrest Maduro so it would be a legal basis for a trialThose FBI will never experience anything like this before or ever again, I can't imagine what they were thinking sitting in those Chinooks as Caracas burned around them
>>64723457Well even if we did make a mistake during the arrest and somehow that's grounds for the case to be thrown out, are we really just gonna let him go home? I think we crossed the legal Rubicon when we snatched him in the middle of the night
>>64723484>I can't imagine what they were thinkinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QddmcO0AZOU>>64723486As anon said, I was probably overstating, but if they bungle shit hard enough to get him off, honestly, yeah, they might just. When the Feds want someone to vanish into the system, they schedule the trial for the end of the century, not go "that wasn't a REAL not guilty verdict!"
>>64723484Think of all the frequent flyer points the FBI won’t be able to use until the next involuntary regime refund
I don't understand, how is this going to unblack the Epstein Files?
Posted it again award>>64722023
>>64721934No mention of any attack helis?
>>64723187It's nighttime. It looks brighter behind because of all the fog scattering ground light.There is no special coating.>>64721935There is no regime change, it's time to get over this cope.
>>64722125I want them to liberate us
>>64723624I want your SVT-40s.
>>64722132Their provincial politics have ensured that Toronto gets lunch first and everywhere else goes hungry. The migration is just the cherry on top of the shit-sundae.
>>64723187>stealth: Visible
>>64723484Were they FBI or DEA or Marshals?
>>64721934pr stun Putin arranged for Trump
>>64722132>Aren't they destabilizing themselves by importing jeets?https://www.google.com/search?q=russia+mass+immigration+hybrid+war
>>64723624Imagine simping for the states instead of just moving there lmao. Are you so fucking worthless you can't even get a green card?
>>64722125Canada is likely safe until US fully annexed Greenland.
>>64724128FBI, who are authorized to conduct arrests for any kind of federal charge
>>64723572MH-60 DAP is a heavily armed special operations attack variant of the blackhawk.Its actually sensible that they were used rather than Apache or w/e else. They share logistics and supply footprint and are better suited to operate off Amphibious ships. Apache can operate of Laval vessels but using them would involve another unit, since I'm fairly sure 160th does not use Apaches. Using DAP for the attack slots means its all one unit and thus easier to train together and generally more cohesive.
>>64722125Canada is a staging ground for hostile infiltrators from the world over because of their lax immigration laws. We're stuck maintaining their borders and their waters as if they were ours because they are totally unwilling and unable to do so themselves. If we didn't pick up their slack our enemies would be all over us - and they hate us for it. They are one lovers spat away from full on siding with the Chinese.
>>64721935They should do the whole planet a favor and send the chinese fishing fleets to the bottom of the ocean in a single night>>64722246NTA but I've heard they can do some wild things wrt hacking devices from the air
>>64724193Attacking Canada first makes much more military sense. Newfoundland is extremely useful in accessing Greenland.
>>64723477>you can clearly see them in combat footagepeople keep saying this but I dont recall seeing a vipers anywhere.I say that rocket attack, but never got a look at the chopper there, where do you see a viper?
>>64724187I didn't ask to have liberal tyrants installed over my homeland. The liberals and their jeets can leave, preferably at gunpoint.
>>64724339>can't control Mexican border >let's add even more land Sounds like the problem isn't the indians anon.
>>64725105lmfao, ever look outside? Border crossings are at their lowest in 50 years.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp8wd8938e8o
>>64725150>net crossings of 443k>meanwhile Canada is on track to have over a million leaving the country via Pacific and Atlantic borders Idk man it sounds like the Mexican border still got half a million people that keep coming in but Canada is doing their job
>>64725169Canada is so jeeted that some jeets are going home.
>>64721934Damn. I would be pooping my pants if I was a helicopter pilot. Those guys have balls.
>>64725169>Can't read statistical data awardFY starts in October of the previous year.So you got 3 months where 350k illegals were going about before Trump's inauguration in January. Now let's look at Canada shall we?
>>64724136Ah yes, Putin arranging to have critical allies of his crippled to give a PR boost to his strongest enemy
>>64722125It's purely coincidental that this affects Canada.
>>64725175The hilarious bit is when they get dense enough they start scamming each other, it's like Somalis and their clan beefs
>>64725194>cuts off the data at 2021>entirely new governmentItll be interesting to see how much reading scores go up when the cartel keep flooding the southern border because clearly they're smarter than the average citizen at this point
what an absolute waste of resources to end up keeping the regime intacthow many more circle jerk threads about this do you needwaste billions of dollars in taxpayer money to distract from the epstein files and undermine american credibility and moral standing so you can threaten to invade greenland and several other countries and makes you impotent in calling out what russia is doing in Ukraine
>>64723624>t.jeet or vatnigger
>>64725350Probably a jeet. A lot of them desperately try want to be American but can't get in so they're stuck with Canadian temporary residency. There's a reason why Carney is having a million kicked out and the country faced a population decline for the first time in years. Turns out having America on your side is a lot better for business than having a million fast food workers living in shitholes.
Why are Americans mad at Canadian Indians when their corporate leaders say Americans are too fat and stupid to work modern jobs and America actually needs those Indians?
>>64725326>1m leaving Canada>more people flooding the Southern US bordermore delusions? 2025 had lowered numbers for Canada but still has 400k new PRs and 150k students.
>>64721934Good and interesting post wasted on this board filled with useless subhuman retards
>>64721935ChatGPT post.
Incredible, really. Chinks have not been getting shipments for 5 days.https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/whats-status-international-oil-companies-venezuela-after-maduros-capture-2026-01-05/
>>64723624Liberate me a couple NP762s when the border comes down leafbro
>>64726378I haven't forgotten anon.
>>64723457https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/01/secretary-of-state-marco-rubio-with-george-stephanopoulos-of-abcs-this-week>SECRETARY RUBIO: It wasn’t necessary because this was not an invasion. We didn’t occupy a country. This was an arrest operation. This was a law enforcement operation. He was arrested on the ground in Venezuela by FBI agents, read his rights, and removed from the country.
>>64726378>>64726401>>64726406>the philesssssssYou lost lol.
>>64726593Fucking amazing lol
>>64724339Mexico is actually the number one BRICS glowie staging ground for glowies that want to be near the US but not in the US.Russians Cubans and more recently the Chinese love using it as a hideout.Though Canada is getting up there, they received their first “Indian glowies killed a Canadian man on your own soil” award a while ago.
>>64721935If anything in the long run this is arguably beneficial to Canada's oil sector, as Canadian oil is now in dramatically higher demand in East Asia. The refineries which currently accept Canadian crude here can't utilize Venezuelan oil so the acquisition of those oilfields has nearly no immediate consequences as we aren't set up to refine any of it at scale. So the existing refineries still require Canadian oil, but now a large supplier of oil to a market Canada is building ties with is potentially out of the picture. In the long term yes, this allows greater energy independence from Canada but in the short term this actually has the exact opposite of the effect you're saying it has.
>>64724453>>64723477The positioning of the muzzle flashes vs the rockets strongly indicates an attack helo with a nose mounted cannon vs a DAP Blackhawk with guns on its wing hardpoints.Also the audio clips of it firing sound exactly like the gun on the AH-1
>>64726885You just don't get it, do you? 80% of that 'East Asian' market is China. Sell one barrel more to them over the baseline Trump barely tolerates and get hit by tariffs.
>>64726954Yes I do get it. The tariffs are happening anyway. China has a greater ability to dampen economic harm to the Canadian market, than the United States has ability to inflict it, if it were so inclined. Trump has offered the stick many times and thus far, zero carrots. Appeasement is very clearly not a rational strategy here.
why are apaches such vulnerable trash?
>>64726901You could also just look at the picture without the scribbles and see that it's clearly a Viper.
>>64727279I know, I drew that to help the children who were insistent that it was a DAP
>>6472704733% of Canada's GDP comes from exports. 80% goes to the US. 40% of that 80% is unexportable due to them already being goods that China does not need. You have it totally mixed up.
I wonder if the venezuelans all had baofeng uv-5r radios
>>64726810Mexico is a known failed state full of hostile actors. We still pretend Canada can be safely ignored because they're our le epic hat.
>>64725565because they are trying to import their shitskin cousin who faked his degree
>>64726901What if it was an Apache
>>64728508There are no airbases close by, they don't operate off carriers, and can't refuel in flight.Meanwhile the USS Iwo Jima was parked right off the coast and operates AH-1s
>>64726202https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3338907/china-bans-exports-military-related-goods-japan-dispute-intensifies>China bans exports of military-related goods to Japan as dispute intensifiesArticle from yesterday, idk how I missed it. But it's really telling when the chinks overplay their hand out of nowhere when Japan didn't do anything to escalate recently. Too much of a coincidence that it happens after being cut off from 700k bpd near free oil for 5 days and the entire Canada-Venezuela follow on effects I discussed in the OP. Supply chains gonna get a bullwhip effect unless they scrambled to buy crude at spot from OPEC which as I said just crushes already nonexistent margins. For Japan, I know that the LREE bridge is already up, and superhard materials/gallium/graphite can easily be switched to alternative (albeit more expensive) supply chains, what really is the bottleneck for Japan and also all the US itself really is HREEs. That's a bridge that's going to fully arrive in late 26'. I doubt it will reach that point, as Sanae's ¥500b key critical technologies fund is exactly for absorbing these kinds of costs, but Japan has a huge share in robotics used Chinese high tech manufacturing and a monopoly on photoresists (which they used to pressure on Korea back in 2019 to great success) so they have plenty to fire back with. China most certainly have tried to re-ban REEs to the US directly for what happened in Venezuela if they didn't handcuff themselves with the 1 year ban pause in order to get H200s earlier last year. So they lashed out to Japan. We're seeing months happening in the first week of the year, everyone.
>>64727374kek are you talking about that thread?
>>64721934Since one manpad team could have rekt the entire operation I feel pretty strongly that elements of the Venezuelan military were bribed to let this happen.
>>64730867them being stupid is more likely
I bet this'll totally stop people from asking about why there is so much blacked out sections of the epstein files that Trump is definitely NOT in.
>>64730867>https://www.twz.com/31712/night-stalker-chinook-special-operations-helicopters-have-new-laser-countermeasures-system
>>64731042Yeah, but we didn't see a single manpad lighting off and missing. Not one.
>>64731117>https://xcancel.com/ConflictsW/status/2008260128618017170
>>64731306Yeah, I don't know what that was but it wasn't an igla. Moving way too slow. Don't take what retards say on twitter literally.
>>64721934mission almost failed.https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/07/us/politics/trump-venezuela-helicopter.html>Initially, the helicopters, carrying dozens of Army Delta Force commandos, flew undetected.>But as they approached Mr. Maduro’s lair, the aircraft came under fire and shot back. The first helicopter in the assault, a giant twin-rotor MH-47 Chinook, was hit but remained flyable. The flight leader, who also planned the mission and was piloting the Chinook, was struck three times in the leg, said current and former U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.>As the damaged helicopter struggled to stay aloft and deliver its troops to their target, the success of the entire operation, called Absolute Resolve, involving more than 150 aircraft launched from 20 different land and sea bases in the region, hung in the balance.
>>64731643Bold of the writer to assume that the possibility of losing a chopper wasn't accounted for, but it makes for good drama. Keeping a bird in the air with three rounds in the leg is fucking wild, though, somebody give that man a DFC.
>>64731662>“Failure of one component of this well-oiled machine would have endangered the entire mission,” Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said only hours after the mission was complete.
>>64721934>FlawlessA heli got hit. It was pretty good though since no total loss or loss of life.
>>64721935>losing out on 1m~ BPD of oil sales a dayIt's going to take ages to get venezuelan oil online, years even.Unless Trump becomes a dictator he will be out of office before this hypothetical fruit comes to fruition, and it assumes the people coming after him will continue this type of global market influence, or that venezuela will somehow go along with it without backing out at any point.Those barrels China needs will come from Iran, and Canada will just sell to Europe.
>>64731706That's the power of the legally-binding contract. Plus, if it actually gets off the ground, who the fuck is going to campaign on "fuck Venezuela, let them starve"?Still waiting on the Venezuelan government to decide if they're going to get the memo or if they'd rather get themselves overthrown, but we'll see how that plays out.>IranYeah, because their oil industry definitely isn't an imploding shitshow, as well.
>>64731706Extra Venezuelan crude in addition to the 250k BPD Chevron baseline is already going to the US as we speak. Iran's regime just lost a city and is about to collapse lol. Your last point isn't even an opinion, it doesn't make any sense because Europe doesn't have any extra refining capacity for Canadian sour crude.
>>64731750>lost a cityWait, what?
>>64721934>delta arrived at 0201 localLate AGAIN! I THOUGHT THEY TRAINED?
>>64721934>But the power went out and that says something.Allegedly, due to a previously emplanted virus in the utility grid control. Hmmm?
>>64721934>Spectral>>>/x/
>>64731749Also does not include the 30m barrels in PDVSA tankers that were about to go to China too, btw. Those are going to be redirected to the US gulf or spot buyers.>>64731753https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-brink-protesters-move-take-two-cities-appeal-trump
>>64731750>Iran's regime just lost a city and >is about to collapseAgain?
>>64731792Okay. Maybe a little bit overhyped, but where the protests are holding, they're starting to spiral. Guess they're going to need another round of purges on their internal security.Man, they could have avoided so much shit if they'd just denounced Hamas and been "deeply concerned about the growing humanitarian crisis in Gaza" like a normal fucking country.
>>64731785Not sure what you're trying to get at here. The point is that Venezuelan crude is leverage over Canada, not to replace Canada. And 1m BPD is more than enough leverage. >>64723341
>>64721934>gay drones Those gay drones are making warfare kino again
>>64731794This time may be different (unironically)Their currency has cratered compared to 2019 and 2022 and the chinks cannot step in anymore due to their own economy spiraling.
>>64731792Well, of course Trump is a symbol of peace. He deserves a Peace Prize. That Venezuelan chick tried to give him hers.
>>64731794Supposedly their inflation has gotten so bad 1 million Iranian Rial is worth about 1 dollar. Imagine, naming your currency the real only for it to be made completely worthless and functionally fake
>>64731811>not to conflate myself with the coping muslim in here, but at current exchange, it's closer to 7, probably 20 or 30 with PPP copage because things get cheaper when your labor costs are near-zero. Not to imply for one second that that still isn't "lol, lmao" tier.
>>64731833 (Me)>>
>>64731811>1 million Iranian Rial is worth about 1 dollarWow, that's Rialy bad.
>>64731801>The point is that Venezuelan crude is leverage over Canada, not to replace Canada. And 1m BPD is more than enough leverage.it's really not. Venezuelan crude is going to replace Russian crude in the Louisiana refineries again. Louisiana refineries were specially built for Venezuelan crude .Gulf refineries still have their pipelines from Canada and aren't interested in tankers.
>>64731873WatHow do you manage to get two things wrong nowThe US hasn't bought any Russian crude since the beginning of the Ukraine warTankers transporting oil are cheaper than pipelinesOnce again you haven't come up with anything to say that -1m BPD from Canada isn't massive leverage for the US.
>>64722125>>64724193>>64724381>Canada invasion hur durI hate you retards so much. You realize most of Canada would probably voluntarily join the US if one Qubec independence referendum passed? Any US regime that actually wanted to absorb Canukistan should be psyoping Quebec nationalism like it's going out of style.
>>64731929We aren't at war with canada, yet...
>>64731929https://apnews.com/article/canada-oil-pipeline-alberta-oil-british-columbia-carney-bdbd13b337ee12a34a708af0ea63da97>Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney and the premier of Canada’s oil rich province of Alberta agreed Thursday to work toward building a pipeline to the Pacific Coast to diversify the country’s oil exports beyond the United States>Alberta Premier Danielle Smith said the agreement will lead to more than 1 million barrels per day for mainly Asian markets so “our province and our country are no longer dependent on just one customer to buy our most valuable resource.”
>>64731643>mission almost failed.Very dramatic assessment. >>64721934>unknown number of chinooksBut don't you think after the Iranian Embassy hostage rescue (attempt) that they already had airborne replacements circling at 10k ft just for damaged choppers? I'm a nobody and that's an easy Plan B option. Plus, I want replacment dudes and empty birds for res ue shit. Fuck it! Put me in charge and I'll assemble a special team myself! A list dudes, an A-Team, if you will.
>>64731976>Alberta Premier Danielle Smith>Chicks running the countryDoomed before liftoff.
>>64731944None of this would have to happen if Canada wasn't such a two timing bitch refusing to spend on defense for their part of the hemisphere and cozying up with the chinks. Symbolic boycotts or whatever bullshit is fine but the moment they try and undermine Trump's war on China it's an active threat. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/canada-pm-carney-to-visit-china-next-week-with-focus-on-trade-2nd-update-b9cd87fa?mod=investing>>64731976Refer to >>64726954 also lmao if that pipeline gets anywhere past the drawing board by the end of this decade. The USMCA renegotions are in July.
>>64731662>somebody give that man a DFCthese are the kinds of awards men join the military to earn
>>64731117The real world isn't a video game. Weapons are dispersed in teams that are kilometers apart. They need targeting, maneuver, command, and comms. Turdies and ziggers don't understand modern war, I swear. Still thinking in ape see, ape throw rock mode, just with rockets and bombs.
>>64731306Damn, the fact the chopper is practically invisible until it shoots is spooky.
>>64731989>two timing bitchThey really are contrary little fucks. Not the people, the leaders.
>>64732044you don't know shit. anyone claiming this was venezuelas army's best is just guessing. the fix could have been in.
>>64732062human eyes see better at night than some shitty phone camera
>>64731750Ah yes, bacause a one off draining from the stocks is production get out of here you joker.
>>64731706>ages, years even
>>64721935>Wrstern Provinces will leave anyway and give that oil for reasonable prices>PLA & Party real estate fraud nest eggs in Leafistan go bye bye with the slightest money laundering scrutiny (Sidewinder Report)Cuba hosts big time Bugman listening posts, and probably missiles. Them and finalizing undoing Carter's perfidy in Panama ought to be next.
>>64733267It's gonna be an amazing year to say at the very least. Bad year for commies.
>>64733299>twist in the next episode>mar-a-lago gets nuked
>>64733316Damn I wonder what happened to zigger subs https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-seizing-venezuela-linked-oil-tanker-after-weeks-long-pursuit-2026-01-07/
>>64731989>trump talks to Xi for trade dealsI sleep>carney talks to Xi for trade deals REEEEEE TWO TIMING FUCKSlmao
>>64733488this but unironically
>>64733488do cancucks really
>>64732600Notice how I said 'in addition to' and the '250k Chevron baseline' not 'finite stocks will completely replace Chevron and PDVSA production'Fact of the matter is that 1m~ BPD is being pumped out of the ground as we speak, and has been for the longest time down from highs.
>>64731938Greenland's about to do just that lmao
>>64736371No not really, Greenlanders want to be independent but they want even less of those fat American pigs in their country instead of the Dutch
>>64736643You're not off to a great start if you can't tell the Dutch and the Danes apart
>>64722170Yeah, your post was
