>Australia makes a version of multicam which actually matches the green trees in their own country>Canada makes CADPAT which actually matches the green trees in Canada>Estonia matches the green in their countryMeanwhile...>America makes a OCP pattern which is completely unlike the green trees in the US>Bongistan makes MTP which is again, completely unlike the green forests of Europe>USMC makes a "woodland" camo which is majority brown, black, and a dark murky algae green which under sunlight literally looks turquoiseHow fucking hard is it to just take a picture of a forest, us the dye dropper tool on paint and then make your camo pattern the same colour as the fucking trees where your soldiers will be training in 100% of the time?
>>64727470>Countries fighting in a narrow range of biomes can match their camo to it>Countries fighting expeditionary wars in a vast range of biomes try and match them all somehow and get mediocre to atrocious resultsYeah.Of course the real question is, why can you not buy a few sets of clothing for each soldier. Back when it actually mattered, the germans had fucking autumn camo, that's how specific it was matched. Modern armies have approximately a hundred times the ressources available, so why not? (Having a single general service rifle is the same sort of idiocy btw.)
>>64727470>marpat >badMAXIMUM BAIT
>>64727470>America makes a OCP pattern which is completely unlike the green trees in the USThat's because the US goes to other countries to fight, we the fuck would the camo need to match anything in the US?
>>64727527>conus camoUnironically Mossy Oak Everything.
>>64727470The 2000s happened. Camo has been totally shit ever since.Anyway, not many know that solid colors are harder to see on a running figure than the same running figure wearing camouflage
>>64727510Make reversible combat smocks great again
How effective would this be?
>>64727533It'd be a wet dream for me if the US adopted mossy oak or realtree as its standard camo.
>>64727561Anything that breaks up your pattern. Also, weirdly enough, light colored bellies make animals harder to discern than if it were just one color.Pic related
>>64727470The bongs arent fighting in the UK, and posse comitas prevents the army and marines from fighting in the US. You would have to be a complete dumbfuck not to understand that implicitly, yet here you stand presenting it as if that angle had not occurred to you at all.
>>64727568It's called countershading. Objects (including animals) usually are darker on bottom because of shadows cast by overhead sun. Light coloring of the bottom offsets the natural shadows, so it is harder for predators (including humans) to pick them out from their background. There was a lot of good literature about this effect written during the late interwar period, and many nations adopted or experimented with countershaded color schemes for aircraft and vehicles, and even some static installations like anti air or anti tank batteries.
>>64727592no, its because its cute
>>64727470You don't know enough about camo to have an opinion, based on your image.
>>64727589>posse comitas prevents the army and marines from fighting in the USok so mexico can invade the the us army can do absolutely nothing and allow mexican tanks to drive right up to the whitehouse and kill the president right? meanwhile the whole us military just chills in their barracks doing nothing?
Camo doesn't work
>>64727470>Countries that live in fear of invasion have defensive camo patternsYeah
>>64727613Brown hands for sure lol.Mexico can't invade because it doesn't have the capability to invade, at all, and anything attempting to get through the bottleneck will be raped by every air asset available in the US, along with whatever psycho desert people who have had fantasies of their militia fighting for the US.
You can track an amerifat from 40 km with a few seismic sensors, using camo is a waste of time.
>>64727470>How fucking hard is it to just take a picture of a forest, us the dye dropper tool on paint and then make your camo pattern the same colour as the fucking trees where your soldiers will be training in 100% of the time?The funny thing that that's almost literally what happened with the Australian multicam. The boffins were getting ready to start all the testing and iteration and stuff that they did when they designed DPCU, and one of them did an early mockup based on pretty much what you described for a powerpoint presentation, and his dumb fuck showboating uniformed L125 CASG manager "overbriefed" the progress of the project for good boy points on his PAR based on the mockup, got asked for paperwork to advance the project, did it up, it got signed off and went into user testing. The users in question were retarded diggers who just wanted multicam so they could larp as SF, so they all seal clapped being given multicam (and also the new cuts were way better and comfier than old DPCU), and the shit went full steam to IOC. Meanwhile the uber nerds were like "So you mean you really don't give a shit if we do all this testing or not?"Source, was doing a lot of stuff at CASG at the time.
>>64727470Marpat cammo was meant to operate in Tropical jungles of the Pacific for inevitable WWIII against China, not in the Temperate weather forests of Europe. It works great for Tropical environments.
>>64727470>contrasts completely with environment>top right is actually the single best camo image shownWhat did OP mean by this?
>>64727780best one is estonia or australian
>>64727723>"Fe fi fo fum, I smell a euro skellington"
>>64727780>top rightHe's a completely different colour to the bright green fir trees
>>64728086Literally same as top left.
>>64727780>>64728114Yeah I noticed the same thing
>>64727470>America makes a OCP pattern which is completely unlike the green trees in the USImplying we're every going to fight a war on home soil
Looks good to me.
>>64727560This joke stopped being funny ten years ago. Might as well make an Xzibit smock in your smock joke while you're at it.
>>64728114>>64728379You're literally retarded. Bong MTP is practically light grey and white with a hint of brown and green. Australian camo is the same colour as the trees.
>>64728402Brah the tree he's in front of looks nothing like his camo in the top left picture. Are you fuckin blind?
Aus multicam (AMCU) is more suited to Australia's north, which is reasonable, but does struggle a little in more arid, dry grass parts of the country. AMCU, as stated, does have more darker green than traditional multicam.
>>64728418is that a famas?
>>64728465Yes, the license built Australian version of the FAMAS, the Excellent Famas, or EF88.
>>64727715I am pretty sure Mexico has invaded, just non uniformed fighting aged males who terrorize American communities with fentanyl and leaf blowers.
>>64727561For Conan or any other naked barbarian waving around a sword in a dimly-lit cave/castle/lair with flickering torches.This would be like Navy "Dazzle" camo.Yes, you'd see him moving.Like a disco-dancer with strobe lights.You'd have no idea what kind of stance or swing he was moving into.So be would be difficult to parry or counter.>with really bad flickering torches, youd probably trigger epileptics
>our camo works really well when we're at home training in late spring in our single-biome countrygood for you
>>64728513Well they're havin a good time gettin rounded up so, noice.
>>64727510logistics spergs being lazybeancounters saving pennies on the dollar
I'm a Bong in the Bong military and I can tell you MTP does work for a wide range of environments in Bongistan and Europe
>>64728971This picture was taken in Germany as well, not the UK
I'm glad to be able to see the Americans from a kilometer away because it gives us time to hide. The Americans shoot at noises.
Canada now uses mulitcam sorta but like cadpat
>>64727470Estonian camo (ESTDCU) sucks compared to the old TTSKO variant. It's only blending when it is bright day (which is rather rare). I have tested multiple camos in that enviorment and the best performers are SLOCAM and multicam tropic. ESTDCU is also quite visible when the target is moving.
>>64728404Most of our bush isn't that green. Looks like Victoria or something.
>>64728418>Scope>Offset red dot>Light>Laser>Grenade launcherAnd motherfuckers say that bullpups can't be modular.
>>64729321No idea if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me lol.
>>64728397why did they tape a pop tart with cream to his chest?
>>64727561Changed my life, so very effective.
>>64729343>No idea if you're agreeing or disagreeing with meThis is not a requirement for posting. >Not even him.
>>64729343Goddammit this entire thread's got my wires crossed
>>64729364>I'm just going to post a random ass comment that has nothing to do with you directly to youBruh, I mean it's not a requirement, but if it's irrelevant to the conversation why do it at a basic human level lol?>>64729373Naw, I mean only that one post was kinda odd to me.
>>64729110No it's called CADPAT MT. It's just like CADPAT but for predicted loss of greenery in the future. Also it has little maple leaves on it. No I'm not kidding.
>>64728399I wasn't meaning to be funny, I think there's actual utility to a lightweight reversible smock you can wear over a t shirt, under armor.Can totally separate uniforms work, sure, I just believe a smock can do both while still providing concealability and comfort in one item.I thought it was a good idea then, and I still think it's a good idea
I'd like to show that old M31 Splinter camo is still competitive.A replica German helmet cover fits an M1 really well and looks cool
>>64727470US has a lot of different forestsand a lot of areas with no forestsand we do not fight defensive wars on US soil why should the camo match the one type of forest you are thinking while thinking about the us?
>>64729867looks like a tortoise I would inspect closer then shoot you for not being a tortoise
>>64730090I think being mistaken for a tortoise is pretty effective
>>64730070Because if he can't dress up like the real military soldier dudes and also be perfectly camouflaged while he runs around playing Wolverines in his back yard that's like the worst and stupidest and most unfair thing ever.
