is 30 too old to join and shoot for some sort of special operations job, like swcc or army rangers?

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>>64729665
No, a decent amount of 18x contracts go to older guys. You just need to be fit enough to hack it. Rangers are more of a young man's game but a couple older guys have done it.
There's a SFAS fitness guide in the OP that USAJFKSWCS just dropped last year which you might find helpful. Pic related is from 2023 and covers fitness average scores for Rangers, as well.

>>64729677
Actually looks like that link got fucked up, gimme a minute.

>>64729686
Its been a minute. What link again?

>>64729686
>>64729988
Yes, 79, in fact.

>>64729988
>>64730088
I fell asleep
thought this link was broken:
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS SF Prep Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg==
but it's not you just have to copy paste it with the spaces

>>64730178
Oh so THATS how you use that link, always wondered that. Guess I'm retarded because I lurked here for a year before learning that.

Probably a retarded question, but do you think there will come a time where celiac disease havers can join? Obviously we need special food, maybe we could all just be POG "stomach battalions" or something

>>64730681
next world war

i mean this with the best of intentions but
is it okay to join even if you dislike the guy in the white house?
not some weirdo leftist or whatever

>>64730912
Some of the senor guys in right now have served under Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, and Trump again so really it's not your problem unless you're Sergeant Major of the Army. It's also only a matter of 2 years before there is a new one again.

>>64730912
I didn't vote for Trump yet I still joined the service. Just don't drink the political derangement Kool-Aid and you'll see your general happiness go up two-fold.

>>64730912
Presidents come and go. And really, you've only got about a year before he's a lame duck. A couple months in DEP, couple months in BCT/BMT/etc and then anywhere from 1-6-12ish months in AIT.

It will only become a problem if he actually gives unlawful orders.

Is recruiting truly booming now? I'm concerned I won't get a good job due to demand.

>>64730912
If you make a career out of it, eventually at some point there will be a guy in the white house you don't like.

>>64729585
Okay no bullshit, I lost my Drill schedule and i just checked in. Will i get another copy when i get to AIT or should i call them before i shop

>>64732027
don't you have someone at your unit you can call/text? your AIT will have nothing to do with your unit's drill schedule whatsoever and won't be able to provide that info

>>64732045
I mean its 9 pm. I'll call tomorrow morning.
The NCO was incredibly pissy, so hopefully he doesn't answer

>2 yr 11mo USMC POG NCO
>honorable discharge after suicidal crashout
>survive off of disability and meds for depression/anxiety
>earn CNC degree that doesn't help me find work
>work shitty manufacturing jobs, snap and quit each time
>another 5150, regain gun rights 5 yrs later
>two nonviolent misdemeanors involving alcohol, spotless record otherwise
>no jail time, owe some criminal restitution
>failing out of engineering program
I'm 35 and severely regret not serving as combat arms because of that fucking combat engineer open contract. Would ANYONE take me at this point?

>>64731592
Not really
2020-2024 was very bad so even a small jump is noteworthy
Now the economy is setting in and people can't find jobs so yeah a few more people joined, but still not a ton.
And since jobs are hard to find this makes retention numbers equally good because who's gonna get out when things are uncertain

If you wanna join it's basically the same as any other time. Wait for the job you want but you may not get it if you can't wait. There are still a lot of incentives they can give especially for army, like guaranteed duty station and/or airborne.
>>64730912
Normal question, yes. You have UCMJ if shit really gets out of hand

>>64730686
Why not now?

>>64732190
>honorable discharge after suicidal crashout
You shouldn't have done that in-service.

>Recruiting station 30 minutes of driving from my house (hour round trip)
>Had to drive there three times already
>Recruiter takes month of paternal leave when I'm in the middle of figuring out waivers and extra documents
>His leave runs through HBL
>2 months of no communications
>He just comes back from leave this week
>"Hey how did xyz go with Sergeant Baldguy?"
I have work in the day and I'm gonna have to drive all the way out there minimum two more times and it will become an all-day affair running errands for my enlistment. A new recruiting station (no joke) a short walk from my house is now in operation since November.
Do I dump my recruiter and go to the closer one tomorrow?

>>64733310
>Do you think there will come a time
>next world war
Do you think thats far off, in your opinion?

>>64735020
>Do I dump my recruiter and go to the closer one tomorrow?
Probably.

>>64735060
Do you?

>>64733310
Not him, but we are really expensive to feed for us to stay healthy.

>vet dad jokes about joining the army because frankly i'm a failure, despite not saying it
>decide to do it
>tell him
>he's beside himself, scared for me etc said it was only a joke in passing
>mom doesn't want me to go either
>trying to talk me out of it daily

what do, i don't wanna hurt them but i actually kinda want this. maybe this is autistic to worry about what your parents want. i'm 27 and feel like it's now or never. never really grew up after high school

>>64735353
Well I think I will because where I have to run my waiver errands is next to the new station anyway.
Makes no sense to waste a quarter tank of gas every time when I can just walk down the street.
My recruiter is kind of ADHD, taking forever to respond and wrote wrong info down before I went to MEPS anyway. Not really trusting this guy.

>>64735406
If real
Go to the recruiter
If fake
please come up with a better larp

I'm conflicted whether I should put Muslim or No preference on my ID tags

>>64735879
Put Robert as your religion

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>>64735875
it's real, unsure why i'd lie with something this boring. talked to the recruiter, just unsure on job.

>>64729585
Anyone here join in their 30s?

>>64735937
>>64735406
There is no reason why your parents would be talking you out of it unless they are afraid of you growing up.
Either way, you will leave the nest eventually and its not their business to tell you otherwise.
Think for yourself, you are 27.

>>64735854
Yes, I would advise getting another recruiter.

>>64735406
It doesn't matter how much they hurt, because when they eventually see you've come back and survived, that's all that'll matter to them.

>>64735879
You can apparently put anything except "atheist", because reportedly they don't like that.

>>64736004
His parents sound too narrow-minded for his own good, and there's no reason to keep listening to them if it's continuing to make his life worse.

This isn't unheard of, and it isn't even that implausible.

What kind of recreation would be avaliable if I were to live on base?

>>64736335
You can catch or pitch

>>64736343
No batting?...

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>>64736349

>>64736353
I didn't really think so anyway...

What about TV (or a theater), gyms, libraries, or board games? I mean, they *should* have these things, and if they didn't it would sound really absurd.

>>64735968
I have the same question. I posted in the last thread about trying to break into IT with A+/Net+/Sec+(I take my Sec+ Test tomorrow, wish me luck) but the Military is on my mind.

I am 29. Thinking of enlisting at 30.
Honestly, I feel like I've read every post, watched every video.
Basically:
>Go in with a goal
>keep your mouth shut & do what your told
>Basic will suck ass regardless
>embrace the suck

Some have a great time, some kill themselves over this but I think it's just a coinflip of trajectory.

The more I think about it. The more in my gut, I feel I am going to do it.

>Also a bit worried about the new BMT 2.0 which from my knowledge makes it a lot harder, not to mention them raising the other standards; So it's more competitive again to get in.

>>64736353
>>64736365
>board games
I feel like someone's gonna say some stupid shit about this, so I mean stuff like Chess or Checkers. They obviously aren't giving them Monopoly.

>>64735968
Not 30s but close. 28 as a scout. Physically I could keep up and I was never super athletic so you can be a smart soldier instead of a strong soldier. Mix of both works well. Being older the kids will look up to you and in basic it got kinda funny because we had the old man council of the 25+ dudes having our own corner and the high school kids coming to us for advise in relationships and finance. Don't be that retarded fuckhead that's 30 and acts like he's 14

>>64736365
>>64736391
>each branch only gets to play 1 game
>The army board game is The Game of Life
>The only board game the navy and CG gets is Battleship
>Marines gets Hungry Hungry Hippos and the balls are replaced with crayons
>Air Force gets Chess
>Space Force gets Go
>National Guard gets Apples to Apples
>the NCO-specific game is Monopoly since its based around fucking your friends over not getting rich
>Warrant Officer specific game is Scrabble because you'll never find the word like you'll never find a WO
>The Officer-specific game is Stratego
>The Reserves game is Uno
>The super secret game you only get after 20 years retirement is Solitaire

>>64736540
Don't forget the Pentagon. they get monopoly

>>64736549
The Pentagon gets Catan
Civilian DoD get Candy Land
Federal Agencies get Mouse Trap
Congress gets Cards Against Humanity
The President gets Jenga

What qualifications do I need to enlist in ICE as a veteran?

>>64736577
You don't enlist in ICE retard.

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>>64729585
This is basically me

Should I join

>>64736581
yeah cut your hair you look like a fucking hippy

>>64736577
Be willing to murder innocent citizens and be a loyal zogbot and also separate families apart

>>64736581
That's entirely your call. 35 is getting up there but it can be done. I hope you're reasonably in shape because at that age it's very hard to undo bad physical habits.

Retirement may be out though, if you really wanna be 55+ and enlisted thats your call though.

>>64729585
What branch should I join at 31-32, for best civ prospects

>>64736792
Really hard to say since each branch has so many different jobs to choose from. You could do SecFo in the Air Force, be miserable for 3 years, and end up qualified to be a security guard at a weed dispensary, or you could do cyber in the Navy and have a decent chance at landing a high paying contracting gig post service. I think you're over the Marines cutoff age but the Navy and Army will probably take you. Dunno about Air Force.
What are you interested in? Do you have a degree? Any criminal background, medical issues, foreign contacts or assets, massive debt, or other significant issues?

>>64736800
I got a business degree, work in digital marketing atm but have a feeling ai will rape in the future

So was looking into cyber, medical in any branches or contracting specifically for the air force

>>64735968
I started the process at 28 and I'm turning 30 in a month. Though I'm going Officer route

>>64736891
If your GPA is above a 3.2 go officer, Army or Navy depending if you like running or sailing

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>>64729585
Anyone here know anyone who's done Reserves (Army, Marines, Navy, Air, Coast Guard) and managed a civilian career? Any stories of employees screwing with them despite USERRA?

>>64729585
Yes please fight for the Israeli puppet state for less than minimum wage. If the military gave me a few acres of land and virgin pussy I would pledge my allegiance to Israel.

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>>64737232
>He doesnt know

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Why do they need the help of seals to board ships?
Isn't that one of their main mission?

>>64738025
Using SEALs is a show of force form the Trump Administration

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How do units like MSRT and MSST stack up to other branches?

>>64738025
>>64738028
I heard Trump is going to form a new spec ops branch called the CHADs, Charismatic Handsome And Dashing, it will be made up of the tallest and most handsome members of every branch. They board ships and mog the crew into submission

>>64738025
Navy isn't allowed to board ships, CG is. Maritime law shit.

>>64736540
Okay okay, but what flavor are the crayons?

>>64738897
wax, stored since the 80s in a moldy cardboard box, delicious

>>64729585
Should I join if Ive been a neet forever and am in my 30s


Will I get laid in the military

>>64738974
>Should I join if Ive been a neet forever and am in my 30s
It will probably help you to come out of your shell if you want to.
>Will I get laid in the military
depends.
can you pass penis inspection day?

What kind of person would do well in the 75th/RASP? I'm quiet but pretty in shape.

politicians should challenge each other to hand to hand combat for territory. sending kids mans shame knows no bounds

>>64739031
The kind of person that sticks broken glass in their asshole for fun. The hazing doesn't stop until you get your tab and you're always competing for your spot.

>>64739031
Alpha male types who will break a bone before quitting something. Not everyone in regiment is like that but the people who succeed the most are.

>>64738025
>>64738313
https://x.com/Southcom/status/2009632097858711656
It's getting worse: they now need Marines to help them board ships.

bros, I, Anonymous, am back from vacation and will now resume regularly posting in these threads to avoid my responsibilities.

>>64732190
>2 yr 11mo
>USMC
>NCO
Wait, how did you manage that? I thought the Marines promote the slowest.

>>64736335
Depends how big the bases you're stationed at are. At the upper end they have pools and shit, go on trips, and have rental equipment for local outdoor activities (like kayaks and snowboards and shit).

>>64736365
>Theater
Pretty common
>Gym
US military bases without at least one gym are so rare they're more like fun trivia answers than places you'd actually get stationed.
>Library
Pretty common
>Board games
Yeah, it's called the local intel unit hahahahahaha. For real though, I'd just play those in my room. Unless you mean a common area to meet people to play with in the first place, then I don't know.

>>64736581
>>64738974
Well what the fuck else are you going to do to make more than poverty-tier money? Win the lottery? lol

Will I have a hard time adapting at ocs if I'm a social sperg? I can mask it until people get to know me

>Wanted to go into intel
>Became a 19D instead
>Due to all the recent restructuring I get the opportunity to reclass
>1SG says he'll see if there are any open slots available
>Immediately start having second thoughts about whether I actually want to go through with this
On the one hand I don't think being a Scout was really a good fit for me in the first place but on the other hand I'm worried that intel is going to turn out to be absolutely soul crushing

>>64739744
>Wait, how did you manage that? I thought the Marines promote the slowest.
Emphasis on the POG part, but I was also competent and fit and only got in trouble a few times

>>64739775
what intel job are you hoping for?

Will the military destroy your innocence?
My mother says I have a gift of being a free spirit and that a world of conformity may not be the right path, but that sounds like a bunch of bull.

I gotta grow up sooner or later, no?

>>64739775
11B -> 35N here. Your retention NCO/career counselor should be the one to go to, not your 1SG (unless you're guard/reserve, idk what they do).
35P (if high demand language w/language pay) > 35N > 35S (INSCOM) > 35S (WHCOM), 35G, 35F (INSCOM), 35P (not language coded/low demand language) > 35L, 35T > 35F (WHCOM)
Overall quality of life as intel is higher. Is there something in particular you're concerned about?

>>64740006
What does your father say (stepdads don't count)?

>>64740013
He's retired army national guard (he did something called active guard reserves after his first 4 year enlistment) and is laughing his ass off that I'm even considering entering his world.

He says physically I should have no problem but he also says that I will struggle with being told what to do. I'm 25, and worked a lot of oddball jobs, but no career.

>>64740006
The military will fuck up your life in many ways
You are unironically better off mentally working retail or roofing.
Leadship will make your life hell and if you get injured they will push you to suicide and washing out

>>64740100
You have clearly never worked in either profession. Do not give advice that you cannot advocate for with personal experience.

>t. mil got me out of the hell that is working both outdoors and customer service in the sunshine state

>>64740100
>retail
Retail fucking SUCKS. If you can't hold down an army job, good luck holding down a retail job without killing yourself.
>roofing
Seriously put your money where your mouth is on this one. It's not as easy as you think "just do a trade bro" is really just code for "just become an apprentice" which is really just code for "eat shit and die for an undetermined amount of years before you can actually make money".
>t. fell for both memes already

This >>64740349 really makes me think you (>>64740100) are a bumbling retarded neet that doesn't work.
Because if you knew the difference between all three like I do then you wouldn't be saying retail and roofing is better for mentality. lmao

>Pentagon says troops can only be exempt from shaving their facial hair for a year

Finally getting them out

>>64729585
Should I join if I am 40?

>>64740353
Fucking for real. Anyone that says roofing of all things is better than a cushy mil job has never had a nail go through their boot or fallen off a ladder or lost a fingernail to a shingle pinching their finger. You have to wonder why someone would come to the fucking military enlistment general to recommend even shittier jobs.

>>64740420
>You get rashes? Denied!
>You medically can't meet grooming standards? It's okay bro
Shaving waivers are straight ass to skirt in medically unfit blacks and those cringe ass viking larpers

>>64740601
I don't know why there are so many old fucks longing to join all of a sudden but unless you're interested in a VA home loan or GI bill, there really isn't gonna be much benefit.

If I lie about my race and gender, do I get promoted faster?

>>64729585
Similar story to others here

Been neet for 30s but know Ill be smarter than most retards in there if I join

What branch would be best?


Im fit as fuck and smart buy lazy but can try hard

>>64741007
USMC 6 year open contract