Why is this legal?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2K_mRNHEvVQ
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>>64732146yeah, because /k/ which is like 90% no gunz yuros is going to go out and buy a muzzle loading bolt action for muzzle loading durr season
>>64732141Give some context nigger. Your lazy ass is fucking lucky I'm giving you a bump
>>64732141In some states they aren't insofar as primitive weapon hunting seasons are concerned Federally it's just a powder/primer cup. Projectile is still loaded separately. Ergo, not a self-contained cartridge. Ergo, not a firearm.
>>64732182>t. no gunz thirdy with no dick>>64732188it seems so dumb to have a primitive hunting season and then allow shit like that.
>>64732188Federally it's a firearm. Transfers on a 4473.If it takes a cartridge it's not an antique. Does not matter if the bullet is loaded separately. Many target shooters used to use this exact same setup.
>>64732195No, you're trying to turn this into your own personal soapbox blog, fuck you. Write your congressman, faggot
>>64732204post proof of gun and toilet ownership
>>64732201Fucking retard. Firearms that do not use fixed ammunition are not federally firearms.
>>64732238Yes they are.
>>64732238>>64732245>>64732201>>64732188https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/nitrobolt>Yes, the NitroBolt® muzzleloader currently requires a 4473 and is not considered an antique firearm.
>>64732245Wrong>>64732261I do not care that Teaditions gay corporate lawyers will only ship to an FFL. It's not federally a firearm as it does not fired fixed ammunition. It can be sold interstate without a 4473 or a NICS check.
>>64732283You're a fucking moron who can't read. (16) The term antique firearm means(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade; or(C) any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition. For purposes of this subparagraph, the term antique firearm shall not include any weapon which incorporates a firearm frame or receiver, any firearm which is converted into a muzzle loading weapon, or any muzzle loading weapon which can be readily converted to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechblock, or any combination thereof.Simple barrel switch is all it takes.
>>64732141Loophole abuse is a proud American pastime
>>6473229518 USC § 921(a)(16)>The term “antique firearm” means— (A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or (B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica— (i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or (ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade; or (C) any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition...Emphasis>or (C) any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder, or a black powder substitute, and which cannot use fixed ammunition...It's not federally a firearm. Traditions is being gay fags.>barrel swapDoesn't matter. In the as-sold configuration it cannot fire fixed ammo. Percussion revolvers can take cartridge conversion cylinders and they are not considered firearms unless they are sold with the conversion cylinder installed. QED
>>64732305Read the last sentence.
>>64732309In the as-sold configuration it cannot use fixed ammunition. It is not legally a firearm. Traditions is just being gay because their lawyers are (somewhat rightfully) paranoid.
>>64732303I'm ashamed the rest of the world doesn't share our enjoyment of following the letter of the law to a t while absolutely abusing the spirit of the law
>>64732141Because FUCK THOSE DEER>and not in the /k/ way
>>64732141>Why is this legal?Lobbying, mostly.Inline muzzleloaders are gay and retarded.
>>64732195>it seems so dumb to have a primitive hunting season you are correct
>>64732328The spirit of the law is gay and deserves to be abused
>>64732141Question, what's stopping you from sticking a projectile on the end of the powder charge or placing it in the barrel before the charge? Is there some kind of grate or block to stop that or can you just use it like a regular bolt action with a modicum of effort?
>>64734683There's a machined shelf of sorts inside the barrel that stops the bullet from contacting the firestick.
>>64734795what a moronic design
>>64732204Shut up nigger. You don't own shit.
>>64732141>muzzleloader
>>64735546Anything that tries to exploit legal loopholes is gonna be a weird clusterfuck.
>>64735546Ikr? But I guess that's the price you pay to still technically have it be considered a muzzleloader, though I wonder if you can just drill out the shelf and have an illegal breechloader for primitive season
>>64734683the barrel is blocked in a way to prevent that so they can say it's legally a muzzle loader
>>64734670Rape the law right in the loophole.
>>64736117>>64735751ok i get its a workaround to have a pseudo muzzle loader BUT imo i think muzzleloader have a certain of having a traditional gun but here u have a bassicly modern shell with powder charge and you just ram the projectile from the muzzleits pretty much a modern bolt action
>>64732303is fucking twinks a loophole for you? or just a hole
>>64732158When flags were revealed a year ago, /k/ was shown to be the most American board by a huge margin.
>>64732195Gun laws are not based on "sense" they're made up of bitter, cynical technicalities exclusively aimed at making gun ownership and use less convenient. Because they're all bad faith technicalities, by the same token all participation in them is via bad faith technicalities.
>>64732305(C) clearly states that it doesn't apply to a weapon that can be converted to fire fixed ammunition by changing the barrel and bolt. Conversion cylinders aren't barrels, nor are they bolts, nor breechblocks.
