Why isn't Russia putting explosives in their "advanced" super sonic missiles? This is the second time the "oreshnik" missiles have been used and they were empty again. I read they're very expensive, limited. People theorizing they were out of them already.
>>64736717In this particular instance, these things are so stupidly fucking expensive that sending it up with anything other than nukes is just a test/PR stunt. The point is to say OOK OOK NOOK, putting explosives on it is just a waste of time and money that isn't even going to add much if any effect on target because MIRVs do at least deliver an absolute fuckload of kinetic energy.
>>64736717Partly as a show of force saying at any time we can wipe you out if we decide (or can even find functioning nuclear armed MRIV). Monke is feeling extra zesty cause of recent events, and decided to have a missile sperg for a nightcap after his krokodil injection.
>>64736717Doesn't a chunk of tungsten pack more kinetic energy at suborbital speeds than some lower-density explosive would?
It's funny to see the usual online shills seamlessly change from "we didn't care about the ships" to "this is the payback for the ships lol".
>>64736745>suborbital nah. not even close. its a scifi fag meme.you would pretty much have to launch tungsten into stuff at relativistic speeds for this to be anything other than a huge waste of money and resources. and a nuke can still accomplish the same effect....for much cheaper still.its just monkee and ziggers assblasted and getting uppity again.check out /pol/. Chug is claiming the entire sky around Lviv is ''ionised' (implication that they somehow really nuked Lviv)'. Theres nothing whatsoever on FIRMS, unlike when Toropets got yeeted to space.
>>64736777 (PRAISE)I almost wish Mikee was still alive.>SEE, I TOLD YOU SO! THEY FINALLY SHOT BACK IT'S ALL OVER NOW CUNNY DENIERS!
they're kinetic penetrators with an impact over mach 10. they and what they hit explode upon impact. they'd be quite useful against air and naval bases, missile sites, power and gas facilities, and so on. they don't exceed the conventional threshold.the us was going to make a similar weapon with pershing ii, but the cold war ended.
>>64736717It's meant as a kind of warning shot, like saying "we could have put explosives or a nuke in this thing and you wouldn't have been able to stop it"idk if it's credible or not but I think that's their intent
>>6473677710L of tungsten = 193kg10L of HMX = 19.1kgmissile speed from wikipedia: 3.40 km/stungsten: 1GJ kinetic energyHMX: 110MJ kinetic + 108MJ chemicalSo if I did not fuck up tungsten wins.
>>64736827a lot of that mass will ablate.also, theres a lot more going on here than the tungsten instantly exploding and converting all its kinetic energy to blast and heat....like a normal explosive....like when the jeet ship hit the bridge...that was a fuck tonne of kinetic energy...probably something similar to a literal rocket....yet there was no explosion, fire, blast, etc.
>>64736827and also......why are you using volume instead of mass to start? obviously a 10L mass of Tungsten has more energy than 10L of HE....its more dense (duh).
>>64736785unfortunately he hasn't killed himself yet, he even spammed a bit earlier.
Who has the stronger navy? Japan or Russia?
>>64736879Considering that Japan dunked on Russia during the Russo-Japanese war, the historical ineptitude of the Russian navy, and the current state of Russia's pacific fleet; I would say that Japan would be able to dog walk Russia at sea
>>64736876>no guitar>no timestampNah, still a faggot impersonator
>>64736869>a lot of that mass will ablate.The entry vehicle has a refractory nosecone for that. The warhead will arrive at the impact site intact, whether it's a dummy or not. No ablation until it hits.>like when the jeet ship hit the bridgeirrelevant comparison to something hypersonic, different physics regime.>a lot more going on here than the tungsten instantly exploding and converting all its kinetic energy to blast and heat.Well yeah, it's not optimizing for blast radius like an airburst would. But the energy has to go somewhere, in milliseconds. So you do get at least some nice plasma fucking up the immediate impact site.But even with explosives it wouldn't be very impressive either since it's meant to be compact and nuclear-tipped, not a much larger air-dropped conventional bomb.>>64736871Because it's an existing vehicle, which has a fixed size and is designed to deliver a nuclear core which is also high-density. That means the booster will have enough power to lift it.So I assume it's size-constrained, not weight-constrained.
>>64736912That is a hell of a picture mate
>>64736827To loft the 10x heavier payload is going to fuck the range. But that may not matter in this case they may be range trading. Then "dummies" might just be lead or something cheap still with explosive equivalent effect.Going to have to wait for the soon-to-come Oreshnik strikes on Faslane and Molesworth to see the explosive version.
>>64736731Why do ziggers like to throw out nook threats all the time? Do they think only they have nukes? Fucking France could nuke Moss cow and St. Pidorsburg and it's over for Ziggerstan
>>64736785I will not believe that Mikee is dead without proof of death/funeral/sui by cop.
>>64736869While that guy's argument is stupid for other reasons, I have to point out that a tungsten rod won't meaningfully ablate during reentry.
>>64736717They've tried to launch them even more often but they've had at least 2 fails. The attack they did on Dnieper a while back looked cool as fuck though. But the success rate for a "nuke" platform seems... interesting
>>64736944because they are afraid
>>64736912>irrelevant comparison to something hypersonic, different physics regimeNo, not really. kE=1/2MV^2. That doesnt change.>But the energy has to go somewhere, in milliseconds.Yeah, straight into the ground. The only thing useful I could ever see something like this every being used for is bunker busting....but that can still be done conventionally anyway--for cheaper.This is a meme wunderwaffe on par with Silbervogel.picrel does everything this can do, 100x better.
>>64736966yeah, i looked into this. apprently they dont....and its clear he was just bullshitting about the ''refractory nosecone'' if thats the case.
>>64736938>Going to have to wait for the soon-to-come Oreshnik strikes on Faslane and Molesworth to see the explosive version.When Nato crosses another red line?
What, they launched another one that did precisely fuck all?
>>64736944because its literally all they have left.and if the nukes fly...ill go into schitzo territory for a second and outright state the US probably has ayy tech...the missiles arent getting through.
>>64736827You're fucking retarded, you need to have a basic understanding of physics before you really work on your math. It's not as simple as just saying muh joules, I don't know where people got it into their heads that kinetic packages moving at ordinary speeds are suddenly going to start recreating the Tunguska event, but if you thought for just a second it should be obvious. The level of fast talk here is basically marketing speak, are we shilling for our favorite sci fi weapon or something?
>>64736817>kinetic penetrators>explodeI swear if you retards thought for at least a second before posting, your tiny brains would fucking melt.
>>64737036Yes. I bet the cope would be that empty field had at least 99999 HATO generals on it.
>>64737047>>64737059Consider a bucket of powdered tungsten.
>>64737059the two aren't mutually exclusive. the heavier the projectile, the deeper the crater from hypersonic impacts over mach ~7.
>>64737209No there weren't.
>>64737106Just use a nuke like everyone else, you're not special.
>>64737216>no sourceSure buddy.
>>64737216Why didn't the damage from several hours of explosions show up on the satellite photos? I guess the answer is obvious.
>>64736745nopeno kinetic warhead at whatever speed is better than the explosive alternative>>64736912epic fucking image
>>64737021The problem with non-nuclear ICBM bunker-busting is accuracy. Even western weapons have an accuracy in the tens of meters which is great with a nuke but garbage without a warhead, and the terminal effect is going to be a narrow hole in the target.
>>64736912>it's size-constrained, not weight-constrained.rocket equation says there's some latitude for replacing some of the fuel with explosive filland the warhead section could also be lengthened for minimal flight performance impactanyway, all said and done, there's nothing a kinetic warhead can do that isn't improved by making it HE frag
>>64737240I read "dummy warhead" as them using the same entry vehicles as for nuclear warheads and only swapping out the payload, which means no lengthening. Hence the same-size constraint.If they have specialized vehicles for conventional attacks then that's a different story.
>>64737216yeah09.01.2026Tanks — 11526 (+5)Armored fighting vehicle — 23882 (+8)Artillery systems — 35892 (+18)MLRS — 1596Anti-aircraft warfare — 1269Planes — 434Helicopters — 347UAV — 102761 (+687)Cruise missiles — 4137Ships (boats) — 28Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 73426 (+90)Special equipment — 4037Military personnel — aprx. 1216930 people (+1030)
>>64736717>very expensiveActually the main part of a nuclear missile that is really expensive is the nuke. Tungsten rods are cheap so you can have a lot of them and also actually use them without risking WW3
>>64737290Russia is on it's ass and this waste of a tactical weapon is evidence of desperation not power
>>64737295>They are literally advancing over the whole front lineSo they're retaken Kupiansk?
>>64737274how many of these can be repaired?
>>64737270>I read "dummy warhead" as thembeing completely retarded, either the warhead was an inadvertent dud, or they ran out of ammo and were hoping to hit something with a practice warheadthere's no other rational explanation>If they have specialized vehicles for conventional attacks then that's a different story.if they had an ounce of foresight they could have spent a week (or even a month tops adjusting for Russian incompetence) filling a basic casing with HE for just a bit more bang that might actually take out a Uke or two
>>64736745Theoretically. Problem is that said tungsten chunk will just waste most of that energy into burying itself deeply into the ground, with minimal splash beyond the immediate impact site. Which is less than ideal when you have minute of oblast accuracy.
>>64737295>They are literally advancing over the whole front lineMay we see it? Protip: 2025 saw the least russian advances of any year of the war, while russian losses were the highest of any year of the war.
>>64737300can you point me to the videos you're referring to?>multiple reported over hours would point to fires spreading to combustibles and them going up and it repeating.> rocket fuel would be a good guess.if it's generating enough heat to do that for hours at a time, I'm guessing it'll show up on FIRMS regardless of if it starts in a facility
>>64736717It lets them do the superweapon propaganda thing while minimizing escalation risk. They may be insanely expensive to make, and part of the nuclear deterrent, but the money is spent and these things will only cost the treasury more to keep around. There's no real battlefield value, but the launches have some dubious value to the war overall, and the investment made into them is being treated as a sunk cost.Russia, after already wasting their inheritance of ground war equipment, is looking for ways to waste their nuclear deterrent as well. It makes me wonder if Monke is just trying to cover his own ass, or if he really believes the Russian state itself is threatened by one perceived L.
>>64737359>the investment made into them is being treated as a sunk costthis much is true; as these ordnance reach their expiry dates it really is "use or lose it"; NATO armies usually expend them in training or spend lots of money decommissioning themthat said,>the launches have some dubious value to the war overallthey could have sent it in the general direction of Kyiv with a jury-rigged conventional warhead rather than just plough it into the dirt
>>64737295
>>64737295>Lolwat?09.01.2026Tanks — 11526 (+5)Armored fighting vehicle — 23882 (+8)Artillery systems — 35892 (+18)MLRS — 1596Anti-aircraft warfare — 1269Planes — 434Helicopters — 347UAV — 102761 (+687)Cruise missiles — 4137Ships (boats) — 28Submarines — 2Cars and cisterns — 73426 (+90)Special equipment — 4037Military personnel — aprx. 1216930 people (+1030)
>>64736731>>64736745Putting explosives in it is a bigger risk than without, knowing Russian safety procedures.
>>64737401how many of these can be repaired?
>>64737409None, knowing the state of russia. Besides, can you repair 1,2 million dead troops?
>>64736717Nobody trusts ziggers with actual ordnance, not even Russia.
>>64737317>can you point me to the videos you're referring to?Of course he can't.
>>64737401How the fuck do they still lose over a dozen arty systems a day? Anyone got the chart on that?
>>64737420>Nonethat cannot be, because they would then have destroyed more tanks than Russia known to have, based on independently-verified satellite photography>1,2 million deadeven the Ukrainians say that this figure represents dead AND WOUNDEDwho are you to claim that they are all KIA?
>>64737433That's actually low. They kill far more guns than that normally. Russian artillery tanks and mlrs will be extinct this year. Their soviet stockpile is gone by this summer. Russia is facing a catestrophic and total defeat.
>>64737437Tanks already seem to be mostly extinct, Oryx has only added like 300 of them in the entirety of 2025
>>64737436Russian casualties have a low survival rate. In most cases there is no medical evacuation at all for them.
>>64737433"artillery" here includes mortars and automatic grenade launchers such as picrel
>>64737440right, so you're assuming that all wounded will eventually die, which even the Ukrainians aren't assuming
>>64737440I am willing to believe any and all statements about how shit Russia's army is, however you still moved the goalposts from 1.2M dead to 1.2M casualties, many (but not all) of whom died
>>64737439>cue ziggers claiming that converting tanks into assault shacks and cope barns reduced their armor losses tenfold
>>64737439almost as if what every official and unofficial analyst tells us about Russia switching to an infantry-heavy tactical composition is true
>>64737300Ziggers got buckbroken in Iraq by Trump lol
>>64737451qrd?
>>64737453Iraq nationalized Russia's majority share in one of their main oil fields and is selling it off to Chevron and Exxon to avoid sanctions
>>64737454Doesn't that mean Iraq now has to pay Russia for those shares, which also helps with sanctions?
>>64737439Oh they are not extinct, they have about 5000 or less guns and mlrs in Ukraine and in excess of a thousand tanks there of deiffering quality and age, ranging fum fully function to immobile. Their problem is their functional deployable resreve is gone, only rusty parts kits are left and they loose 100 a month. They loose ~1000 artillery pieces a month. They are out of MLRS and heavy mortars that can be deployed and down to rusty parts kits there too aside from what they have in theatre.Unless the Americans save Putin and his ground forces they are doomed. As the Ukranians found out, drones are not a subsitute for artillery and mlrs. You cannot hold defensive minefields without artillery, you cannot stop breakthroughs without armour with mechanised troops in reserve. Russia has about 600,000 men in Ukraine. They will die in vast numbers this summer unless they are pulled out. It is what it is.Russia has artillery advatage at the centre of it's doctrine. It has no capacity to fight or defend without a superiority in volume of fire and it has already lost advatage in range, accoracy and counterbattery,Many of the functional Russian guns in Ukraine at this point are North Korean or obsolete.It amazes me there are people who really think that you 'win; a war by sending a few drunks with a flag to die in a hole so you can say a map has changed when the only thing that ever mattered in war is destoyibng the enemies men and weapons. Ukraine has won this war unless someone gets in their way of doing so.My only rationalisatoon for the president of the USA acting as a service coward and proxy for teh kgb in negotiations is that he genuinely fears Putin will nuke the USA if faced with total defeat so wants to run away and hide.
>>64737368>they could have sent it in the general direction of Kyiv with a jury-rigged conventional warheadI think this is too much of an escalation risk. Ballistic missiles improvised to do jobs far below their pay grade don't represent any new capability, but Russia wants to tell people they do. The difference between what is effectively an extra glide bomb attack on Kyiv and a somewhat less damaging terror bombing of Lviv isn't huge, but if it triggers an increase in aid it would be a big misstep.Also, it might come down to the fact that arming these things costs *something* when the biggest benefit to these attacks to Russia may well be just getting these stupid things off the books.
>>64737457Only if you're not a faggot. Also a lump sum payment doesn't generate long-term returns.
>>64737443I never said that. If you had a point you would not need to lie. The reality is the Ukranian estimates of Russian losses have always been too low and don't encompass desertion, accidents, disease friendly fire or POWs etcTo understand that consider that for example in Afghanistan, go look at how many people simply get maimed in accidents.
>>64737436Yeah, they're called casualties because they're no longer combat effective. Which means it eoesn't matter if they're still alive, they can't hurt the ukrainian people anymore. And knowing the state of russian services, i guarantee that they wish they were dead
>>64737459They can't do glaide bomb attacks on Kyiv because they can't get planes that deliver glide bombs within 200KM of it without them getting shot down
>>64737457NTA but 1) not necessarily, depending on the definition of "nationalised"sometimes (often) governments compensate the owners for less than its fair priceand 2) usually, it's an asset which its owners would preferred to hold and get revenue from, otherwise they would already have sold it off>>64737459they've already launched nuke-capable ballistic missiles at Ukraine before this
>>64737464I remember Russia sabre-rattling about muh MIRVs that can't be stopped but they had to tell the US weeks in advance to not get nuked themselves on launch, lel
>>64737462Not quite, whether they live at all when they crawl into a dugout is a an assumption to begin with. Neither are these counts exact, they can't be in some cases, how many people are in the back of a BMP1 when it burns if two manage to get out on fire?
>>64737462you are in NATO now, you have to stop thinking in terms of 200 and 300and again, not even the Ukrainians claim that>>64737461>I never said thatno, you didn't say "2" outright, just "1+1", and hoped that nobody would call out your bullshit>The reality is the Ukranian estimates of Russian losses have always been too lowthank you for your opinion, son
>>64737462If Russia was not experiencing losses on the scale the Ukrabians report they would not have had to introduce year round conscription, raise age limits and quotas.
>>64737458Thanks for the writeup>You cannot hold defensive minefields without artillery, you cannot stop breakthroughs without armour with mechanised troops in reserve.But that in turn would mean that if Ukraine were to push now, it would have to be the same creeping pace that Russia is using
>>64737471I never said what you indicated I did. I think youb are projecting hard because you are a liar you also seem afraid. Are you facing consciption or are you brown and did one of your family go to die for Putins disaster because le based leader of the global south and Russia surely is a place you want a visa to?Who cares.
>>64737468Oh yeah, right, i forgot that russia sends their conscripts to assault enemy positions on crutches. Well i guess we need to treat them like some sort of zombie army and aim to the head to prevent the cripple brigade from revealing our positions.
>>64737474Why would they push now? They just have to continue trading slivers of prepared killzones for Russian military assets until summer at the current rates and they can do what the hell they want. The longer Russia grinds it's assets away in this manner, the better for Ukraine,
>>64737472doesn't prove anything; they could be experiencing losses of a third of that and they would still need to recall conscripts and raise quotas because they're now fighting a fairly high-intensity war instead of being at peace>>64737478>I never saidsure, son. sure.>Who cares.If you were truly white you would care for the truth, no matter how unpalatable.
>>64737483I'm in my 50s white and a decorated combat veteran. You want to know what I think of simpering neo stalinist kremlin propagandist SHITE like you? I want you dead.
>>64737472>a country at war shouldn't have conscription when faced against an enemy with overwhelming numerical superiority Lmao. You're free to check the number of casualties in the ukrainian army, it's public and free to browse, unlike the russian one that needs be computed by nato analysts through visual confirmation.
>>64737482>until summerthis summer it's different?last year this was the prediction:>>63321915> Ukraine has won this war and Russia enters total economic and ground force collapse in four months (this summer). Ukraine and the EU can take this over the line.we gonna see you post another prediction that Russia will collapse>this summerin 2027 too?>>64737487>I'm in my 50s white and a decorated combat veteranCall Of Doody doesn't count
>>64737496>>64737495The real good news for kremlin dick suckers like you that you are too stupid and soulless to realise is the hammer is coming down on you hard in the next few years and that is long overdue.
>>64737458Well, as the KGB document says, Putin is prone to taking stupid risks. As funny as Russia collapsing is to us, it really is a big headache for the guys who get paid to dream up and plan for nightmare scenarios. Mind you, it's very fucking funny that Putin's best play is threatening national suicide, but the fact remains that none of the decision-makers want to deal with the mess that is Russia imploding (again).As for Trump personally, yes, he walked in very overconfident that he could sort this all out and get a Nobel in record time (day 355 of the 24-hour war-ending operation btw). On a secondary note to that, he didn't want to pay tax dollars for it. A few rounds of twitter screaming later, and we got the PURL system. Yes, the euros are footing the bill for it, but most of the ammo going to Ukraine is still US-made, and it's a great source of relief to them that the only way Trump can fuck with that is to start pulling NATO members off of the authorized buyers list, and if he goes there LockMart will probably kill him themselves. Don't get me wrong, this has been a very unpleasantly slow process, but he might finally have found his place where he can fuck with Putin's periphery while keeping his "I'm just trying to be the adult in the room" self-justification.
>>64737500>in the next few yearsnot last summer, or this summer, or even next summer?shaking lmao
>>64737500Why are you talking to me?
Putin is scared shitless after Venezuela because he's afraid some oligarchs will plot with USA against him.
>>64737495>when faced against an enemy with overwhelming numerical superiority Que? Last I checked having more cannon meat to constantly throw away is the only thing that's keeping Russia in this war.
>>64737511Yes? And where did i stand wrong exactly?
>>64737519You're just coming off as really argumentative, while talking with someone who's basically agreeing with you?
>>64737543>question mark after a statementShut the fuck up you passive-aggressive nigger
>>64736745>tungsten pack more kinetic energy at suborbital speeds than some lower-density explosive would?No, only the total mass matters.
>>64737543Use a interrobang (‽) next time, it will piss off people like >>64737547 more because they have to google what it means and you will come off as being snooty and pretentious.
>>64736827First of all, you cannot exceed the payload capacity for either mass or volume. Second, digging a really deep hole is not the same as an explosion.
>>64737562>it technically wasn't an explosion when another planet collided with the Earth and created the moon!
>>64737547You're just coming off as really argumentative, while talking with someone who's basically agreeing with you.Also you being a masssive nigger-on-crack-level aggressive asshole when being told as much ain't helping either.
>>64736745tungsten doesn't have the properties required to actually make use of that kinetic energy in an explosive way.aluminium or some other more fragile substance would do a better job.
>>64737563>retarded non-sequituri accept your concession.a tungsted shell digging a tiny hole in the ground at mach 10 is not the same as a planetary collision at escape velocity type speeds.
>send in hypersonic missile>warhead is just a laser that shines forward>because of the added hypersonic speed, the laser is going faster than light>because mass approaches infinity at lightspeed, even the little photons have infinite mass>obliterate the planetName one reason this wouldn't work
>>64737472>If Russia was not experiencing losses on the scale the Ukrabians report they would not have had to start importing pajeetsfixed that for ya
>>64737446i mean, it did somewhat increase their surviveability against drone attacks, but it also made them completely useless as tanks.
>>64737591Physics.
>>64737591>because of the added hypersonic speed, the laser is going faster than light>outside a vacuum
>>64737591if you run really fast with a flashlight pointed forward, does the light from that flashlight go over the normal speed of light, acquire infinite mass, and destroy the planet?no, instead you just trip on a branch because you were running around at night with a flashlight, dumdum.
>>64737604And this is where your grade school understanding of physics becomes obvious. You can simply do this during the day, the flashlight still produces light
>>647367451kg of TNT contains 4.184MJ of chemical energy. a 1kg inert projectile with equivalent kinetic energy would have to be going mach 8.4 if I'm doing my math right here. impact speed on these things is probably way less than that.
>>64737588fine. depleted uranium dust. pyrophoric, high kinetic energy, pancakes on impact.
>>64737604>sit in my chair>grab flashlight>turn it on>instantly obliterate earth because light is travelling c+107,000 km/h
>>64737605Pipe down, wannabe /sci/ tourist. Running itself is optional, you can just stand still at any time of day while pointing the flashlight to the east. The rotation of the planet will do all the work for you.
pics!
>>64737458>You cannot hold defensive minefields without artilleryWe saw in 2023 that you could, in fact, do so with attack helicopters, though.
>>64737640looks old
>>64737643Um, no? That was like 99% artillery.
>>64737643>defense helicopters
>>64736717wait they wasted another MIRV on this shit?
>>64737667
>>64737503You should be but you are too thick to even know how known and hated you kremlin faggots really are
If only worthless tankie scumbag kremlin traitors were actual tanks Russia might still have a chance.
>>64737675literally, nobody is talking about it in Europe.they chose they wrong day to do it. We have a strong storm in the north and the thing for the dead in Switzerland
>>64737675Lol
>>64737686The funniest thing is that some russian talking heads are painting this as "retaliation" for the supposed ukie drone attacks on putin, which didn't happen and which US acknowledged as fake. Retarded ziggers doing retarded false flags to create an excuse for the attack.
>>64737695Why does Russian culture require a pretext for using munitions on an enemy you're at war with?
>>64736827Friction will oppose your converting of potential to kinetic energy, the bright trails are the metal shielding melting away in the atmosphere. Friction increases according to speed which puts a hard limit to how much kinetic energy you can build up. This is also the reason why you can't build giant cannons to reach to another continent BTW, air as a medium has a density.Also the energy figure alone doesn't tell you much about effect on target. In WW1 they used much bigger artillery shells than today and their effect was mediocre because they dug themselves deep into the ground before exploding. Ironically they had too much kinetic energy making them much less useful than today's lighter shells with more advanced fuses.Launching an unarmed MIRV just means driving blobs of molten metal deep underground, which could be useful if the weapon had precision guidance.
is this another rods from god retarded type discussion ?
>>64736760>Putin doesn’t want you to know this, but the oil tankers at the park are free. You can just take them home. I have 458 billion dollars worth of tankers.
>>64736717Russia is extremely patient with Europe.
>>64737721Nah its more Russians coping that next time it wont be inert warheads. Still cool to see a MIRV in action.
>>64737727Silence, steppenigger.
>>64737727Go milk your horses, Djengis.
>>64737675>Sending a IRBM is too subtle as a message>So you actually have to use 3 paragraphs to explain the meaning>And the audience didn't even know you sent a missile, let alone tried to explain that it meant something.>Beside you blowing up appartments, probably by accident.
>>64736944If you haven’t noticed, Russians are very fatalistic in the way they think.
>>64736944>France could nuke Moss cow and St. Pidorsburg and it's over for ZiggerstanAs a warning
>>64737775>pov: five minutes ago, thirty thousand ziggers vanish in the blink of an eye>amid the ringing alarm bells and panicking generals, a phone rings in the Kremlin>"monsieur Putain, zat was my final warningk">"I know you, uh, what was zat word again? ah! understand, oui?"
>>64736717same reason why LRHW doesn't have much explosives
>>64737797>some explosive = no explosivewrong, zigger
>>64737359>if he really believes the Russian state itself is threatened by one perceived LAt this point it might just beHundreds of thousands of casualties, nothing of value gained, NATO rearming , bigger and arguably more powerful than ever, Russia's global image irreparably shattered, their status as a superpower dead and buried, all of their soft power gone in the wind.If they withdraw now it isn't an L, it is the single biggest L a country has taken since the fall of Berlin and might just result in Putin getting and all his cronies getting ousted, one way or anotherIt is the mother of sunk cost fallacies, but he has no other option but to keep going
>>64737805>the single biggest L a country has taken since the fall of Berlinjust 4 years later, Nanking fell to the Commies
I find it absolutely hilarious that the lawless world unhinged gangsters like monke so deeply desire is turning fast on pozzia mir. With US cucking their "untouchable" shitty tankers and pro-vatnik regimes wobbling left and right. Not only was Maduro abducted and the left over dictatorship is being vice gripped to changes allegiance to Trump, but Iran is as unstable as it ever has been. To the point that Ayazuttah is ferrying gold reserves to muscovia as a back up Even Agent Orange seems to be fed up a little bit with monke after his latest stunt of the false falg on monkebunker. That they were so lazy to even stage and actual false attack that donnie could parade around with as proof of>ukraine bad pidorshnik is like a wet fart as far as "power demonstration" goes compared to everything else going on in the background
>>64737851>xaxaxa stupid westerners homo weaklings fuck your international law i troll uuuuuu xaxaxa what are you gonna do>>ok *ends international law and becomes the tyrant they accuse them of being*>... blyatIt would be funny, if not for the countless lives that are g- nah, I don't give a shit about those, it's going to be hilarious
>>64737401lmao
>>64737295>advancing the only thing that is advencing is the numbers of african and indian in russia.
>>64737314thats the point anon the same was true with the first hit we all know about those massive soviet spherical bunkers its not like that they decided to just throw some out there
how many tankers need to be taken before russia does something?
>>64737775>As a warningfor china, yes
>>64737943There was like 16 or so of them that all made a simultaneous rush out of port a day or 2 ago. They've still got more to come.
>>64737943it depends entirely on if russia is going to own up to ALL of them or just the ones that they think might give them some international push
>>64737920Really sad how the ukies are treating their POWs
>>64737943All of them as long as Russia is playing Tee Hee They're Totally Not Russian games.
>>64737920Lmao, what did the nigger expect?
>>64737943video of the taking
>>64737458>My only rationalisatoon for the president of the USA acting as a service coward and proxy for teh kgb in negotiations is that he genuinely fears Putin will nuke the USA if faced with total defeat so wants to run away and hide.Probably shouldn't "sane-wash" someone who has at best a 12 year old's conception of the world. Putin is Trump's friend, Russia is big on a map, and Russians probably have something financial (debts and loans) on Trump.
>>64737604The missile doesn't have legs so it can't trip on a branch.
>>64737943all of them, inshallah>>64737983thanks, anonengine exhaust on IR looks oddly steampunk to me
>>64738013>Russians probably have something financial on Turmp
>>64737851>Ayazuttah is ferrying gold reserves to muscovia as a back upIran is not getting that gold back ever again lol.
>>64737920>>64737960>>64737981>what did the nigger expect?not that I bet
>>64737675>Show the "West" our destructive power>Destroy own irreplaceable archives
>>64738013Trump was never a good businessman. His businesses were cover for east coast mob hijinks. He got Roy Cohn on retainer as soon as he could, famously had some yakuza interactions in the 80s, casino links before that, and in the 80s-90s visited Russia and came back with magic money.
>>64738039who is this guy behind Epstein? Why is his face covered by a black box?
>>64738058>Black boxAnon are you blind? watch it again and look closer, that's a chick's hair.
>>64737401I see their back down to nearly 1000, when did the recent major push end?
>>64737943I fucking love the Coast Guard.
>>64736777>Chug is claiming that men can be womenfixed
>>64738081I mean this shadow qith the pink tie, who is that?
>>64736717>they're sayingA lot of this board now is just twitter posts from the Pro-Ukraine versions of RWA.
>>64737943>>64737983Britain better step up. There's two tankers off of their coast right now that are ripe for the taking!
>>64738234>posts from the pro-straight versions of fagswut?
>>64737295>advancing over the whole front line with no sign of US wanting to step inWell it's not like it's urgent to step in, given the speed of this "advance"
>>64736717They might not have precise enough fuses for it. Since it goes so fast an impact fuse doesn't work and you need to have it explode at the right time to actually add damage.
>>64737295I just want to understand the mentality of someone who thinks taking less than a fifth of a country in twelve fucking years of full scale combat is somehow good.There has not been a single conflict this deadly short of the Rwandan fucking genocide in nearly a hundred years.Surely, the Ukrainian military will collapse after the Russians bleed sixty thousand men to take babushka's dacha, it's the entire lynchpin of the frontline, didn't you know!?
>>64738241They already helped capture the other ones. Rivet Joints and RFA Tideforce helped take them. There might be some dickwaggling involved here where the US will take them all.
>>64738241There is, but the only interesting aircraft around it as the USAF Pegasus.
kek western media isn't even covering it. Pathetic.
>>64738302i think it has little to do with anyone "thinking" critically in any particular way. it's just pure tribalism, and rhetoric is just another way to establish dominance over the enemy. they already want to believe that they are based, trad and powerful, while the enemy is cringe, gay and weak, and any news just has to be made to fit into that perspective.desu i think there is very little to be gained from engaging with russia or their allies. having discourse with them only reminds them of their enemies rather than how they are doing themselves. and russia in particular seems to think any kind of peace talk is just an opportunity for them to try to collect victory points due to their view that lying to someone means you are superior to them.imo the EU and ukraine should only be sending emails like "prisoner exchange y/n" or "remove troops from ukraine y/n" and never engage with them beyond that or report any of their statements or opinions. if i've learned anything from playing dota for thousands of hours, the average third world mentality crumbles and they sometimes actually start acting like people when you refuse to engage with any of their posturing or animal behavior and just stonewall them
>>64738302>There has not been a single conflict this deadly short of the Rwandan fucking genocide in nearly a hundred years.>In nearly a hundred years Skipping on History classes now, did we ?
>>64737675>Lenin's worksand nothing of value was lost>>64738241bongs aren't permitted to take anything from their coast, be it Icelandic fishing boats, Russian tankers or African dinghys
>>64738302>twelve fucking years of full scale combatackshually that's four fucking years of full scale combat, eight of low-intensity brush war
>>64738341Retarded liberal women getting themselves shot is more important unironically. What difference does this make, Russia will never nook
>>64737061>Yes. I bet the cope would be that empty field had at least 99999 HATO generals on it.The hilarious part is that they claimed several nato generals that died of natural causes were actually killed in ukraine At this point i wouldn't be surprised when a burger generals kicks the bucket during a cote d'azur vacation and glavset says he was killed by russian dolphins during an amphibious assault on crimea kek
>>64738447Theyre really trying to find a purpose to monkes chimpout. He just wasted a city's annual budget on a strike less effective than shasneeds.
>>64738436>Russia will never nookThat was the point anon.
>>64738501>proof of Russian spy killing NATO general, 2026 (colorized)
>>64738435There was a moment of high intensity combat back in 2013-14 leading into the Crimea thing.
>>64738447Kek.>>64738507Dude, that guy's absolutely taking the piss.
>>64737061Didn't they say it hit an "underground gas storage facility"?
>>64737295Pokrovsk still holds
>>64738612Those underground gas facilities are 100+ meters below ground level
>>64737943>>64737983Five have been seized now? Goddamn.>>64738312I think Finland captured another one in the Baltic Sea.
>>64737983CREW EXPENDABLE
>>64738428>bongs aren't permitted to take anything from their coastThey literally helped take the other ones, anon.
>>64738634zozzle
>>64738634the angry monke and the little bird destroyed my sides
gonna freeze
>>64738675Shouldn't Ukraine be using its precious and rare US rockets on military targets instead?
>>64738675>shot down 6Press X to doubt
>>64737981>expecationAll you can eat buffet of AIDs flavored Russian pussy.>realityHorrors beyond human comprehension.
>>64736731I'm sure the point is to convince their supporters that Russia still got it and that the gloves are coming off any second now. As evident by the comments under this clip.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9GRHpWWqOvE
>>64738737AFAIK it wasn't even HIMARS but ukie crap (drones or missiles), it's just that they can't acknowledge that some hillbilly retards which they make fun of actually made their own weapons and hit back.
>>64738675I'm sure russia will bomb belgorod even harder and that'll show those hohols who's boss!
>>64738704It likely wasn't HIMARS. They use those on concentrations of troops and military equipment. But you gotta make out that they used 'precious' equipment on minor targets, so you can admit that they damaged something but also it was a waste etc.
>>64738807Imagine if they Oreshnik Belgorod
>>64737591>Name one reason this wouldn't workThe photons won't go faster. They will just have very slightly (pretty much undetectable outside a lab) shorter wavelength.
>>64738821considering the impressiev accuracy of the oreshnik, I think that's well within the realm of possibility
>>64738675im actually curious whether this has strategic benefit. does it force them to move assets around in a way that is beneficial to ukraine?the russian national ethos does not seem to care whether any city other than the big 2 get bombed to smithereens but if saint petersburg or moscow gets even a whiff of a drone then they fly into a psychotic rage over it and try to find a way to chimp out in a fresh new way
>>64738792Glazing Russian weapons in 2026 is so embarrassing. Why are they like this?
>>64738821This time it WILL have the nuclear warheads.
>>64738862Monke attempting a false flag nook is something I can see him being retarded enough to actually try.
>yfw Ivan embezzled the warheads
>>64738302I know you don't care since it's Africa, but the first and second Congo wars had like killed like 10 million people, and a lot of that was this century.
>>64738951really? damn thats my badI thought those were excess death counts that bleeding heart nog lovers hyped up
>>64738675
>>64736717A hypersonic missile wouldn't even need explosive warheads to do some serious damage. Even if it was carrying bricks, they'd hit like, well, a ton of bricks.
>>64739064>hitAnd there's your problem LMAO.
>>64738990Presumably a lot of those deaths were disease, starvation and the like. The congo is kind of wild for being a no pun intended black box - it's dense and very populous but not exactly well penetrated or familiarly traveled.Probably the closest to deepest darkest africa in a modern time
>>64738999you know the funny thing? summers in russia are nightmarish. they're hot and humid like a jungle. vatnigs can't really catch a break.
>>64739108And filled with mosquitoes.
