Does he deserve his shit reputation for the Battles of the Isonzo? After all what else could he realistically have done? He had a very narrow mountainous front with no room for any sweeping manoeuvres or flanking. And he won most of the battles.
Yes.
>>64741339what would you have done?
>>64741338Hold that front with minimal manpower, deploy Italians to the Greek front, try to harass the Austrian Hungarian navy to the point a landing on the Dalmatian can be done to relieve the Serbs, deploy Italians to the mid east front etc.Those troops would have been better used just about anywhere else.
>>64741338He made no attempts to innovate, even if the situation was bad
>>64741346Italy had declared war on Austria-Hungary to “liberate” Trentino and Friuli, the political considerations could not be ignored
>>64741344nothing aside from small raiding actions.try to carry out some naval landing into the balkans perhaps or just send troops to the western front where they'd be of more use
No not really. He wasn't even the most incompetent or detatched military commander of the war. He wasn't a bad tactician, but his main issue was his short temper, extreme pettiness, pride and compulsion to control.
>>64741344Not get my men killed the same exact manner 11 times.
>>64741351Well he liberated them, didn't he? From the filtht mountain jews and their rotten empire of slaves
>>64741351>political considerations could not be ignoredConsider this. If you win the war, you can demand territory or continue winning even harder. Or you can lose the war and get nothing.
He was hated by the Italian troops for his harsh disciplinary regime and ignorance of conditions on the front line. many surrendered willingly because of low morale caused by his pig-headedness.
>>64741362I don't think the public would have been very satisfied with an indirect method indicative of weakness
>>64741355irl peter turbo
>>64741354Then you would probably be sacked
>>64741338To be fair, he wasn't performing THAT badly compared to other generals in other countries until Caporetto in late 1917 where he got absolutely and utterly BTFO. That would have sacked ANY general in ANY army. His actual main problem was being a very top down strategist.
>>64741338>Does he deserve his shit reputation for the Battles of the Isonzo?He probably deserves more shit than what he gets because WWII > WWI.
>>64741401nta but the real culprit of the defeat at caporetto wasn't cadorna but his chief lieutenant, badoglio. yes, that badoglio, the one who signed the armistice with the allies in 1943 and didn't bother to tell anyone, so of course the italian troops didn't know what to do and were easily picked off by the germans.
>>64741344Nothing, I would just listen to what they have to say, because that's what no one did.</shitposting> no seriously, just sit there and do nothing and just think of something better. In WWI the meta was to play defensive.
>>64741338Yes. His successor, Armando, was vastly superior as a general, and the contrast between them is obvious.Cadorna was essentially a nepo baby: arrogant, stubborn, and often contemptuous of those beneath him. Educated in outdated Napoleonic doctrine, he proved to be one of the worst generals Italy ever fielded, rigidly applying theory while ignoring reality on the ground.A clear example of his stubborn, pompous nature:He planned a frontal assault against a small plateau with steep sides. The enemy was deeply entrenched, the approaches were heavily mined, and their positions offered excellent fields of fire for machine guns.Two low-ranking soldiers broke formation to inform him that they were locals. They knew of several dry stream beds that could be used to reach the top of the plateau while avoiding both the mines and the machinegun fire. They even knew the routes through a small forest that led directly to these access points.Instead of acknowledging or even considering this valuable tactical intelligence, Cadorna had them court-martialed for speaking to him directly. He then went ahead with the planned frontal attack, which failed catastrophically and cost many lives. Undeterred, he repeated the assault (twice more!!) after heavy artillery bombardments, eventually taking the plateau at an enormous and unnecessary human cost.
>>64741509>Two low-ranking soldiers broke formation to inform him that they were locals. They knew of several dry stream beds that could be used to reach the top of the plateau while avoiding both the mines and the machinegun fire. They even knew the routes through a small forest that led directly to these access points.>Instead of acknowledging or even considering this valuable tactical intelligence, Cadorna had them court-martialed for speaking to him directly. He then went ahead with the planned frontal attack, which failed catastrophically and cost many lives. Undeterred, he repeated the assault (twice more!!) after heavy artillery bombardments, eventually taking the plateau at an enormous and unnecessary human cost.You could put that shit in a movie and people would say it's too on the nose to be realisticLuigi puts the average wuxia antagonist to shame kek
>>64742153>tmw some peasants who haven't even mastered the ninth level of the spaghetti realm have the audacity of offering advice to you, a seasoned master of the capricola-provolone schoolchi-lets, when will they learn?
>>64741338Yes, he was genuinely a terrible general and it's telling that when he was replaced, his replacement immediately defeated the Austrians.
>>64742153Courting death. Don't blame this general for being ruthless.
>>64741346>Hold that front with minimal manpowerImpossible without getting entirely sweeped by the austro-hungarian army
Genuinely terrible nepo baby that was well aware aware of the limits of the italian army yet pressed forward with retard outdated tactics and almost lost the warHis replacement was everything that he wasn't: charismatic, caring of its soldier, open to suggestions by low ranking soldiers and open to change of tactics, and so in the span of one year he rebuilt an army from scratch and won the war
>>64741509>ArmandoJust FIY Armando is the first name, like Luigi in Luigi Cadorna. Diaz is the last name.
>Half of the entire Italian war death total – some 300,000 of 600,000 – were suffered along the Soča River.
>>64741344I think I'd have tried something different after the third time, at the very least.
>>64745509>SočaIsonzo
>>64741344Attacked the Isonzo 13th time.
