>Own a 5.7 hangun>Someone with a 9mm calls my 5.7 a glorified 22 magnum, and tells me it's useless>Own 9mm handgun>Someone with a 45 ACP calls my 9mm a glorified .22 lr>Own a 45 ACP handgun>Someone with a 10mm says my 45 is a glorified 9mm>Own a 10mm handgun >Someone with a 357 magnum says my 10mm is a glorified 357 sig>Own a 357 magnum >Someone with a 44. Magnum says my 357 magnum is a glorified 10mm>Own a 44 magnum>Someone with a 9mm says it's too impractical and heavyWhy are gun fags like this?I hate to sound like a Fudd, but outside of specific incidents 22 lr will kill most people, because shot placement matters more than caliber 80% of the time
>>64742022People shit talk everything, it is purely your choice to listen and let it bother you.All of those calibers have their place, and there's no reason why you can't own and enjoy multiple. None of them do everything well, but all of them do something. Arguing in circles about their merits and shortcomings is just a way to have a pointless conversation.
>Why are gun fags like this?Because the vast majority of enthusiasts are utterly divorced from anything resembling an actual practical use case, at least when it comes to pistols. They shoot deer with rifles and sometimes paper on a timer with pistols. So instead it becomes a status symbol and/or something to autism over. Just like big trucks and nods and having a swimming pool and how big the diamond on your ring is and designer handbags and etc etc etc.>.22 works just fine for killing peopleYou go right ahead and carry it then, pal. No I wouldn't care to be shot by any amount of gun either, but there is something to be said for having enough energy to do something after impacting a bone. All skill is in vain when an angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket.
5.7 is all you need. Love my FN
>own .460 Rowland>can't afford ammo>sells gun
>>64742022Agreed, its why rimless center fire .22lr in a coffin magazine holding 60rnds is the best choice because it performs as good as every other cartridge including and up to 40mm Bofors when shooting center mass
>>64742022Everything's a compromise. Physics demands it. Otherwise, I'm sure everyone would be using something like 50 BMG for all handguns and rifles. Though the idea of having a magazine be connected to some pocket dimension feeding a pocket pistol with a giggle switch doing 1500 rpm chambered in 30mm and having no recoil is lolworthy.
guns are a masc-presenting subject so talking about them makes insecure men very self conscious. No one in a group of mid-to-low IQ guys wants to be seen as 'wrong' or 'uneducated' about guns so they will all get very aggressive an opinionated
>>64742115>masc-presentingYou can just hang yourself now to save your parents the embarrassment of your existence
>>64742120before getting mad how about you tell me what was wrong about what i said?
>>64742022>Own a 5.7 hangun>Someone with a 9mm calls my 5.7 a glorified 22 magnum, and tells me it's useless >Own a 44 magnum>Someone with a 9mm says it's too impractical and heavyThese two are the only ones people say; the rest you made up.
>>64742022>Why are gun fags like this?Because they are all right. Temper your indignation knowing .22LR and 22 WRM will put an eye out and that's all it takes.
>>64742100>be reload chad>use 460 Rowland©®™ load data in regular 45 brass and chambers >shoot 1000ft lb loads for less than 20cpr>460cels seethe because you didn't spend $500 on an official Rowland©®™ brand 460 Rowland©®™ conversion kit and over a dollar a round on official Rowland©®™ brand 460 Rowland©®™ ammoFact: pissin hot 45 reloaders are the most powerful gun owners on earth
>>64742115>guns are a masc-presenting subject so talking about them makes insecure men very self conscious. No one in a group of mid-to-low IQ guys wants to be seen as 'wrong' or 'uneducated' about guns so they will all get very aggressive an opinionatedTrue.>>64742120>just hang yourselfTf, insecure: the post.
>>64742347>Fact:One fact of many. Well done.
>>64742022Your gun and calibre are, potentially, enormously important to your personal safety and health. At the same time, most people will never shoot a gun in anger (and that's a good thing). So they put their lives in the hands of something they have no personal experience with. That is bound to lead to feelings of insecurity and neurosis.
>>64742022Everybody is like this.>22 lr will kill most peopleUnless you're an assassin, "killing people" isn't the point. Making them stop what they are doing right now is.
>>64742022God forbid a man have an opinion.Ffs lad just do whatever the fuck you want
>>64742347.45 acp and colt chads uploading their ammo to nuclear levels 10 and 9mmlets could never hope to reach and downloading it to plinking levels all for less than they pay for factory ammo(they cant reload and cry about any caliber being slightly higher cpr than the cheapest shittiest plinking ammo) will never not be kino
>>64742411I recall a wave of pained crying when 10mm 1911-patterns dropped. Hardcore gunbros sounded an awful lot like "female FBI agents" and slunk back to .45 ACP in fear. They passed that fear to their girly-handed "sons" and here we are.
It changed my mind about a lot of things when I saw that study of thousands of real shootings and the conclusion was>.32ACP, .38SPL, .380, 9MM, 40S&W and 45ACP are statistically fucking identical in real performance of "shooting and stopping human beings">.22LR and .25ACP are marginally worse>.357 Magnum is marginally better>none of them are that great, and all are useless compared to any shotgun or centrefire rifleMy two thoughts were that millions of manhours of autistic internet arguments were instantly invalidated, and that the 9mm fags took an advantage just because 9mm is cheap and commonly available in pistols that stack a shitload of them in the mag
>>64742349>>64742135Same fag and reddit incarnate
>>64742120He’s doing leftistspeak but he has a point. Remember Kevin de Leon going on about “30 caliber clips in half a second”. Guns are a subject that almost all men will pretend to be knowledgable about. That said, I don’t see the point in shitflinging over caliber.
>>64742347Sounds like a good way to beat a gun to death or KB, should at least be using a heavier spring and super brass or cut down .308
>>64742564Heavy spring and a comp are good ideas but regular acp brass will hold up to over 40ksi in a properly supported chamber. The stronger brass is mostly a liability thing for ammunition manufacturers so Glocks and 1911s with weak springs don't blow themselves up
>>64742540I read that same study. I appreciate that the guy went to the trouble to outline that more work is needed because he was pulling from a relatively small pool of shootings where A) shots to stop and B) caliber had even been recorded to begin with
>>64742022That's how you get owned. You either use your own head and decide what's best for you, without anyone endrosement on something or you maybe doesn't need a gun at all. There is shitload information with cons and pros, you pick whats best for you, or what you truly desire even if it's bit silly or impractical. I don't overthink those things. I see weapon a tool, it either suits my needs or not.
>>64742022>not getting a .224 boz to shut them all up
>>64742022>own a .38 Special>feel like a detective, see?
>>64742022You just wrote the solution to your own question. .44 Magnum and up are the only real handgun calibers worth a damn, and men who can handle and effectively shoot them in self-defense scenarios or who work towards doing so immediately separate themselves as being superior to the limp-wristed faggots who can’t or won’t and call it “too much”.
>>64742022Is it normal to get a boner when taking a poop after a large meal?
>own and carry a 38 Super handgun>11 124-grain rounds at 1460 FPS (586 fpe)>nearly no one outside /k/ even knows 38 Super exists>literally 0 (zero) gel test video on 38 Super ammo, and Paul Harrell only tested the weak loads>popular gun tubers are forever too busy glazing new fancy 9mm pistols that barely benefit from comps unlike the 38 Super>even /k/ rarely utters "38 Super", have to search the archive to see if anyone talked about it recently
>>64743247If it was rimless and you could get Glocks and Berettas in it, I think it'd do very well.
>>64743247So it's a worse and more antiquated .357 Sig?
>>64743290Beretta made .32 acp work in a double stack mag, why not .38 super
>>647433059mm is worse and more antiquated than either
>>64743308It's doable but it's a bitch.
>>64742022Gunfags aren't like that in person. Touch grass. Enthusiast communities are way more enjoyable off of the internet.
>>64742540>>64742728Can y'all link the study? I'd love to read it
>>64743323This. Nobody will complain about you CCing a .22 Derringer, not even range boomers, unless you're a woman and they're in the mood for condescendingly talking your ears off.
>>64742022I'm a .45acp fag purely because I think the increased recoil makes it more fun than 9mm, and at this point have so many thousands of rounds .45acp stockpiled that it's too late to transition to 10mm or whatever. I don't have anything against most 9mm fags though
>>64743433I think 9mm, 10mm, and .45, are the perfect trifecta of sidearm calibers, each with strong traits. Maybe if .38 SuperComp could take off, it'd make that four,
>>64742022Shot place is important, but .22 doesn't always make it through the sternum or cranium, so it's very limiting.
>>64743453It doesn't cut very deep from a pistol barrel, no.I'd like some sort of Magnum version of .25ACP and .32ACP, rimless, longer, and loaded hotter.Not necessarily as hot as possible, just something to bump up their penetration.
>>64743473>I'd like some sort of Magnum version of .25ACPI've thought about this for awhile. Especially with modern magazine designs, if you could get something this size with like a 17rd mag full of 50gr hollow points going 1500fps, that would be one helluva pocket pistol
>>64742022It's a shame you missed the .45 long colt guy. He would have set you straight on all this.
>>64743492.30 super carry already does this for .32 acp. Good capacity, good expansion, good penetration, idk why federal insists on 100 grain when 80 or even lower would reach crazy speeds even in shorter barrels
>>64743379https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
>>64743473>>64743492As always, Buffalo Bore has some wild shit. They've got a .25 ACP +P flat-nosed FMJ that gets like 17" in ballistic gelatin.
>>64743629I'm sad that Tim stopped selling hard cast 38 Super :(I emailed him asking why and he said it's because he couldn't get it both fast and accurate enough to his liking.
>>64743500Yeah .30super is based, but .25super could max out tiny mouse guns>>64743516Thanks anon>>64743629>.25 ACP +P flat-nosed FMJ that gets like 17" in ballistic gelatinThat's bonkers
>>6474202232 acp is all anyone should be using for self defence. Women should only be able to have single shot 9mm snake shot, including female police.
>>64743247>nearly no one outside /k/ even knows 38 Super existsEveryone knows of the Cartel's favorite handgun cartridge; it's just fallen out of favor. In the US it was considered good until the 10mm was invented, and in Mexico it's what every civilian owned back when 9mm and .45 ACP were banned, then the government banned .38 Super too, so now law-abiding civilians are forced to carry .380 acp.
>>64742022Just jump to the last one and call the 9milfag a limp wristed bitchboy.
>>64743247>TFW 9x23 winchester never became the standard
