I am about to import 80,500 of these indian hesbee 22 short single shot handguns. They are currently in transit being shipped from India.They have sat in storage as they were built in 1959 as gunlaws became more restricted in India. If you were in my shoes, how do I make this business venture successful. I purchased each pistol at 2160 rupees (around 24$) and they cost me ($1500 for import and $5000 in shipping) so i am in for abit under $2mil. Do you think people will actually buy these or should I put my house for sale ASAP?
Do they even meet the minimum points needed for US import?
what in the world is that trigger lol
if you sell them for $75-$100 I think a lot of people would be interested. it would be cheap enough the it not an "investment" and it looks like a fun little gun (assuming they work).
>>64742593I'd buy it for a hundred bucks or less as a curiosity. I like small, shitty pistols
>>64742623But it's a single shot 22 short. If it were .22lr, maybe.
>>64742623this is a pretty good angle. get in touch with as many guntubers as you can and offer a free gun to them if they make a video on it. get your contracts or whatever tight so you don't wind up handing out guns for nothing. people who watch guntubers like buying novelties and something like this could have its marketing associated with the Liberator pistol they dropped all over france.
>>64742638disregard this i feel like the fact that it's 22 short and not 22lr disqualifies it from popularity.
>>64742593Import $1500 for every unit? But they look cool and yeah. With they were at leas in .25 or 32.Btw I didnt know you could even import anything from india. Why haven't more companies started doing it?
>>64742593>>64742631oh wait single-shot lol yeah nah forget it
>>64742623>>64742628you guys are nuts to spend $100 on a 22 short pot metal single shot. you can buy actual guns for not much more. I'd pay like $40-50 tops as a curiosity but only it it was in person. Shipping and FFL transfer would kill any value
>>64742644Because Indian guns are dogshit as the people.
>>64742662This.At best, $50.00, and even then your market will be very limited.
>>64742675okay weirdo
>>64742631>>64742640>22 shortoh yeah. I still think people would be interested for $75 or less. 22 short isn't that expensive.
>>64742593well you bought way too fuckin many but on the upside of that your shipping and import costs are basically nothing per unit. i think you should try to sell them as cheap as possible, like $60 and the poors will jump on them just for the fact that hey it's a gun for $60 why not
>>64742593Buddy you're going to need a real fuckin good sales plan right now. Is it possible? Uh, well you know I like the Bills this year what a team.Anyway... ffl them through nugget enterprises or something I mean how can they not fire once I guess. They are "novel". They ARE Indian.Can you do frequent updates and persist through a lot of verbal abuse? Make a Trip?
>>64742662The point is it's not that much money, no matter what is "next expensive".
>>64742698He's a retard, can we meme him a success so he does something next level stupid with his artificial confidence? He won't quit after one... think of the melty.
>>64742675COW shit you racist.
>>64742638I now want to see Paul Harrel shoot this gun lol
>>64742593wahahah what the fuck is that bro if u paid 1500 per one gun then its over financially for you or did i misunderstand the post
>>64742751>or did i misunderstand the postyes you did. it cost $1500 total for import. all in all he spent less than $25 each.
>>64742751No it's for all of them if it's what I think he means.His actual costs are NOT bad. The issue is "I have 80k guns".
Can you sell them by weight to someone else?
>>64742751Reread. he paid $24.00/piece, and bought 80,500 of them.That's $1,932,000 for the lot.THEN he paid $1500 for import duties and $5000 in shipping. He's in for ~$25.00 per gun, all said.
Blow someone who's good with a dremel to make them all fake PPKs.Numba wan impolt!
>>64742758He has ~80,000 single shot, Indian made pistols chambered for .22 short.That's his real issue.
>>64742781Ok well... he has let's say 80k single shot .22's that fire.$60.How really bad is that if he does beat ass feet marketing? REAL not facebook marketing.
>>64742593>Do you think people will actually buy theseI don't think you're going to be able to move 80,000+ single-shot .22 short potmetal pistols, no. That said. I'd certainly buy a few for ~$40 just for the novelty. If it was .22LR then I'd be willing to pay ~$50.>or should I put my house for sale ASAP?See if other distributors would be interested, I guess. If not then you're all kinds of fucked.
>>64742593Sell em for $50 a piece plus shipping, if you manage to sell them all you make $2 million profit, which isn't half bad all things considered. Hell I'd buy one, they're legal in my shithole state because they're C&R.
What if they aren't Indian pistols. What if they're SIKH pistols by a people with a blademaking tradition and old world metallurgy?
What if they're the world's number #1 glove box, tackle box, first aid kit pistol?
I wanna say OP is a dumb LARPing fag, not because of the sums involved, but because I know that importing pistols is a bitch and the smaller the pistol, the harder it isGlock had to fight for decades to import the Glock 25
>>64742756>>64742773ah sorry 25 per gun? thats resonable id say if u sold them for 50 bucks ur gonna make ur money back
>>64742773I wouldn't spend $5 on a single shot .22 short. I have no clue what OP was thinking, can't even use it to reliably dispatch livestock.
>>64742806an Indian single shot 22short probably counts more as a stapler than a firearm in the Import points list lmaoThe Glock 25 is in a real caliber, semi-automatic with detachable magazine, and is manufactured by a lazy fucking retard company that probably could have imported it with the right paperwork but they didn't bother for a decade.
>>64742593Can the chamber be reamed to accept .22 LR? Do that and you would have a much larger market.
>>64742825>Can indian metal be thinned and still contain a bomb?
>>64742593Use for police trade-ins80,500 × 100(ea) = $8.05M
>>64742593People might buy the things, in fact quite a few will if you make them cheap, but I don't think they're gonna be barn burners or anything.If they were .22LR semi-automatic pistols and they were $75, I'd think they'd sell quite well, but you're actually looking at a single-shot in .22 Short. If they were .22 Short automatics, I think they'd sell decently still, but again, they just aren't.Maybe if you could make them a package deal thing or something when people buy something else?I think this would be a mildly interesting pistol for various people to collect, but there's very limited utility and fun, I doubt you're gonna turn a big and quick profit here, and if your economy is hinging on this, I would say that these pistols sound like a bad bet.>>64742604Hm, that's a question too. Maybe they don't have to qualify for as much for being single shot?>>64742605Probably a long double-action trigger.>>64742662Agree, they are overestimating the value here.
>>64742644No, for the whole shipment
>>64742818>can't even use it to reliably dispatch livestockThe target audience want a dumb, fun little toy to buy for less than a hundred bucks, no one is going to look at that and assume it's particularly useful for anything. The biggest question is how he expects to offload 80 thousand of them.
>>64742858>Hm, that's a question too. Maybe they don't have to qualify for as much for being single shot?You spent two million dollars and you didn't know the answer to the most important question you could have asked?I hope you're much richer than that because you just lost all your money.
I'd say that if you're really set on trying this, and if you can, import just 1000-5000 examples of these pistols and test the waters and see.>>64742825I wouldn't tempt fate with that.
>>64742876Where in my post did I indicate that I am OP?
>>64742867That's my point, the number of people in the US who would find a single shot .22 short pistol fun and be willing to pay ~$40 for it while still having to pay shipping and fill out a 4473 is probably significantly less than the number of pistols he's importing.
>>64742882I just realized that, sorry.OP is fucked though. No way a zinc pocket pistol meets the points. Not a fucking chance.
>>64742891I know they do that for automatics, but are the rules the same for single shots?
>>64742683
>>64742846Shit, this is probably the smartest move itt
I imagine that OP might be able to sell these things off over a period of 10 years, but if his ass is riding on this being quickly profitable, I'd say he's already in trouble.Maybe if AOWs go off the NFA, which they might just do in not too distant of a future, you could modify some of these into smoothbore guns for shot loads only, market them as cheap garden guns.>>64742675Right, but this gun should be so simple and with such mild chamber pressure that things shouldn't go terribly wrong.
>>64742846It'd be 8 million in Applebee's gift cards, but one could use this to buyout several Applebee's locations and then sell them for cash.
>>64742593Sell them for $99 people will buy them. Easy flip.
>>64742900OP >form 6So becuase it is single shot i have imported as described "humane killers". As in, for killing small livestock which is separate to *sporting purposes*
>>64742923$8MM in applebees giftcards, sell them for $0.50 on the dollar, OP still makes a $2MM profit.
>>64742593Nobody's gonna want these lol. If they were 22lr, maybe, but 22 short? No way. They aren't useful for literally anything.But you might be in luck, there is still one person dumb enough to buy them: The government.Start looking for "gun buybacks" and you might just break even.
>>64742926I guess that'd work? You'd be hard pressed to convince people that these would be good for defense or offense, people wouldn't bet on those kinds of margins if they could help it.Let's think about what these things could actually be used and marketed for:>humane small animal dispatcher>possible garden gun>tackle box gun (probably its best use)>starting gun if you weld up the bore and mark them for blanks>>64742942He COULD cut some of his losses with gun buybacks, but it's not like a videogame, they only have so much money and so many vouchers to give out, it'd take time for something like this to pay off that way as well.
>>64742940That would require contact with people who want to eat at Applebee's, a dangerous proposition to be sure.
>>64742952>He COULD cut some of his losses with gun buybacks, but it's not like a videogame, they only have so much money and so many vouchers to give out, it'd take time for something like this to pay off that way as wellNot just that, but cost of transportation to those buybacks.
>>64742952He'd be so fucking famous if he janked the buybacks, WORTH IT.
>>64742974It'd be funny as fuck, but I assume OP doesn't have unlimited money.>>64742973Yeah, so you could only really do it locally. Hell, it'd still probably be worth doing on a small scale, trade one of these $25 pieces of shit for some good grocery vouchers and shit.
OP LISTEN TO ME!Holy fuck your meme opportunity IF you have balls.Do the trade in thing and make a youtube channel. You will not only be gun-popular, you'll be internet popular and also make some of the money back. But after that if you're not totally repulsive you can ride that so hard.And you have to be so cold like... "You have how many vouchers? BOYS!" *clunk*"How are you going to save children now?"
>>64742593Yeah this is either b8 or going to be seized. Max, these have like 32 points, maybe 38, I don't know the weight or whether they're DA or not. You need 75 points for them to even be importable. If this isn't b8, congrats idiot you just gave $2mil to fucking India
>>64742593Two requirements before 68 GCA points come into play:1. must have a positive manually operated safety device.> don't see one on right side2. combined length and height must not be less than 10" with the height (right angle measurement to barrel without magazineor extension) being at least 4" and the length being at least 6">I don't think you'll make that requirementI think you're fucked.Ref: https://www.recguns.com/the-points-systems-of-gca-68/
>>64742604FPBPOP IS FUCKED LOL the guns cannot be imported.https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/factoring-criteria-weapons-atf-form-4590/download>no safety>not at least 4"x6">definitely not gonna make 75 pointsGG OP its over.
>>64742984I don't, I took out a business loan and became an frt to do this. If I can't sell these, life's in the shitter.>To repeat myself, I imported these as smooth bore 'humane killers' and not under 'sporting purposes' and are also super light weight. I had a lawyer both in Delhi and Kentucky look over everything, becuase of their weight, use, bore ect. They can be imported and it was not that difficult. Only thing I had to do was get them properly serialised in India but that didn't cost much becuase I had a contact who electric penciled then for me (took him 2 weeks with a couple freinds and access to a room in the hesbee warehouse)I do not plan on doing buy backs.
>>64743073>had a lawyer both in DelhiOh, good idea. I'm certain he did the needful and gave you excellent advice.
>>64743073>electric penciled then for meIs that even ok. I know F-troop (ATF) has minimum requirements for depth and degree of permanence for serializing suppressors. Do they even allow electric pencil?Jesus, even Century Arms does a better job of serializing imports.
>>64742877I want to tempt fate.It’s not like .22 LR has a high chamber pressure.
>>64743073So wait, these are smoothbore humane killers? How many veterinarians do you think are gonna buy these things?
>>64743089electro pencil would have passed in the 70s but under current standards haha no
>>64743065Read it, he has them cleared.
>>64743065single shots are exempted
>>64743073No LISTEN YOU FUCK.The meme power if you obsessively monetize it and don't treat it like a party is worth more than $2m. All fucking day.You just have to cold ass punk buybacks and film it.
the grip is even brown
>>64743134A hot youtube for 6 months sets you up for a LOT. At least at this level.
>>64742858>theyThink you for not assuming xir gender.
>ask how to make business work out after spending 2 millionbro
>>64743129
>>64743073>I don't, I took out a business loan and became an frt to do this. If I can't sell these, life's in the shitter.Then you've made a pretty fucking stupid decision, I'm sorry to say. You might just be able to offload these over a period of many years, but I personally doubt it'd go very quickly. OPTIONALLY, you find someone else to buy your batch off of you, but that means having to find someone who'd be willing to spend that money on it, and chances are you wouldn't make a good profit on them that way.>electropencilUh, I don't think they let you do that anymore, so you'll probably have to redo the serials on the things.Are these things actually smoothbore already? I suppose that wouldn't matter much for tackle box use anyway, but it'd make them better for shot, only I don't think there's any off the shelf shot loads for .22 Short.
>>64742593>i already made a retarded decision, please tell me for free how i can make money instead of lose moneyMaybe you should suffer for your poor choices, rather than offload your retardation onto the market at large by profiting from terrible decision making
you meme the other jeets into buying em as a cultural thing. no actual american wants a pos 22short. or they might get it as a lol its so cheap why not thing but novelty only goes so far.
>>64742644>Btw I didnt know you could even import anything from india.H1bs
>>64742593You should give them away loaded for free to crazy homeless niggers like the guy with the machetes. The webms will be worth the 2 million investment.
>>64742999My sides just hit escape velocity
>>64742830Honestly the pressure jump isn't that much and knowing Indians the chamber and barrel thickness are the same. They aren't tapering shit. It'd simple to set it up and ream it out.>>64742593If you aren't bullshitting I'm assuming you have an FFL already. If not I'd team up with existing FFLs and do raffles. Make it $5 per a ticket and do a pistol for every 10-20 tickets sold. People would love a 1/10 chance to win a burner for $5. It's what a lot of FFLs do to unload shit that won't sell.
>>64742593I think your smartest bet is to sell them alongside a box of 22 short in a custom small plastic case as survival kit pistols or vet pistols like you were thinking. Also this is a great idea >>64743408
>>64743448This, I think this will actually work. Thanks anon!
retarded fake greentext baitmaybe pick believable numbers next time. oh yeah dude i went out and made a small little purcahse of 1.5 million dollars for something impossible to get rid of
>>64743611Oh, holy shit.That is brilliant. My sides are currently being tracked by NASA.
>>64743611I would buy one and never open it
>>64742593>each pistol at 2160 rupees (around 24$22 short I'd say you are fucked unless these are actually 5 shot with crippled 1 shot mags that can be converted back.even then, probably fucked.I think you could produce factory new same guns in USA for about $10 each, if you did a 80K run.
>>64742593Are they strong enough to fire .22 long rifle if you took a chamber reamer to them?
>>64743408Another idea is to make it a raffle tied to sales and transfers, every 100th sale for anything gets a free Indian pistol. That'd drum up business
>>64743703No, they are genuinely. Trash, zinc alloy monkey metal. Barrels are scary thin ... 5mm thick. It need 22 short or new barrel
>>64743708And what, do that 80,000 times?
>>64742593$26/unit yields 8% profit factoring in import and fees. They will move if the cost is down. I’d say $45 for delusion pricing. If you keep them cheap I will buy many if this is true.
>>64743611lol
Surjit Singh Bhurjee has gotten the license.
>>64742781>He has ~80,000 single shot, Indian made pistols chambered for .22 shortThat don't meet the importation requirements.That is his real issue.
>>64742846This is fucking brilliant. Assuming, of course, that he can actually get them into the country.
>>64743822>OP is an indianfigures geg
>>64742593>22 short>single shot>reverse image shows a ton of early 20th century starter pistols>starter pistols use 22 short blanksIf OP isn't trolling he got ripped off. Or the pajeets used a starter pistol as a base and decided to chamber it for a non-blank.
>>64742593I’d buy one if it was <$100 just because it’s interesting. I assume a C&R FFL would cover it since they were made in 1959How do you plan to sell them?
>>64743611kek
>>64743846Was head of hesbee at time. He is likely retired by now unless he plans to live to 200 but at one point he had a bit of trouble as he was operating without the correct license for a period there.
>>64742593I'd buy on for it's only real use which is dispatching livestock.
>>64743918Lol, the lion in the bottom right is a made in India insignia
>>64744102Anon…
>>64743611Saved
>>64742593If this is true, I want one because I collect Saturday night specials and I have a C&R license. It would be cool to have one from another country although I have no idea what you are going to do with 80,000 of them.
>>64742593>>64743871This is Marie Perfecta or its clone. Probably a clone since these are collectables. It's a blank pistol that's been converted to .22 short by either opening the barrel or just making barrels that are open. Turkey and many other countries sell these saturday night specials as guns and as starter pistols where they can't sell them as guns. They're starter pistols which have been crafted to work as regular pistols. Are they good? No, obviously. But they work to a degree.How this thing is suppose to work is that you pull up the slide, place a bullet in the chamber, cock the hammer and close it. The breech face is most likely the hammer. In other words no breech face. What keeps the casing from coming out and blowing up is the hammer's mass and it's spring.
>>64744284You can probably shoot .22 longs with this. The barrel isn't most likely chambered in anything. Because why the fuck would it be since it's originally for rim fire which isn't intended to shoot anything. The velocity doesn't matter in .22 short, nor in the .22 short blanks. I assume this for two reasons: it's indian which means crafted in some sweat shop and it's a clone. It's just a tube around 6mm but you got to check it. The next obvious question is how thick is the barrel walls. Assuming this is any kind of steel and the wall thickness is at least 2mm you should be good. If there is no chambering then you're good even if its crap steel(not zinc, aluminium or anything else) because a 6mm steel tubing and .22 have a difference of 0.5mm which means it vents a lot of the gasses. This means it's basically a gun powder powered airsoft gun. You can check if it's steel with a magnet. Now obviously before marketing these as .22lr the very least you want to do is have them tested by C.I.P standards. There's no reason the manufacturer would market these as .22 short if there wasn't a concern.You did a really shit deal. Theres no way you're making any money with these. You spent around 2 million on really shit guns which you cannot sell and if you do, you risk the chance of lawsuits. You think you got the jeets but the jeets got you. Your only option is to go around trying to get money back in buybacks.
>>64742593Take them to Texas, sell them at gun shows and any private sales you can find otherwise, aim for specifically anyone who looks like they're from India as your target customers, go for a slight national pride kind of marketing, have them marked as $100 but after a bit of back and forth talking sell them for your real price range of $50-$75 so they think they're getting a deal. Maybe do the occasional bundle sale with a small box of rounds for it, or if you get someone who sounds real interested try to get them to buy a 3 pack of the guns for the "special low price" of $200 so they can share them with family or friends.
>>64744323>It's ok you can just hustle!Dude. There's 80 500 of them. If he sells 20 a day he's still going to be selling them for 11 years. There's no way this is real. This has to be a troll.T: >>64744284
>>64742593saar the POOper popper liberator of toilet
>>64742593HahahahaYou know how to get a Bersa for 300 or less? Naw you wouldn't know bout thatLast few dumb fucks I shot glocks with they're wasteful blowing rounds in the dirt and their magazine kept popping outRetarded asses Glocks are like iPhonesIn the right hands they're mass produced sleek sexy utilitarian machines a solid 8/10 (9/10 with a switch cause its stupid fun that only real Gs can handle)In the wrong hands though people act like orangutan ass niggers with themJust look at tik tok addicts on their iPhonesCompared to a using that processing power Berkeley chemist running some digital simulator for his experiments
>>64744455Sorry, I don't speak wigger.
Carry a dozen of them on you at all times
>>64744647>Carry a dozen of them on you at all timesWould that make him Jeetfire Jim?
>>64744768>Jeetfire Jim
Can someone tell me the purpose with a one shot pistol?
>>64742593It seems that no one here really understands how gun sales work. You dont sell an order of this quantity to individuals, or even to gun shops. You sell them to distributors, at about a 20-30% markup. They then sell them to shops at another 20-30%, who then sell them to consumers at 20-30%. Back when I was doing distribution sales, the big names were Lipsey's, Sports South, Zanders, Davidsons and some others I can't remember. Google their names, and reach out to them. Or pay me 10% per sale and I'll do it.
>>64744768holy shit thats a good one
>>64744768Carlos!
>>64744768Thank you for reminding me
>>64744768>>64745145My sides, to be jeetfire jim he'd need 30-40 of them strapped all over him, and him running through the cours would look like the macarena dance on fast forward kek
>>64742788>let's say 80k single shot .22's that fire.Who tf is going to test fire 80k pistols? I like shooting but that sounds as boring as dangerous.
>>64743611Saved.
>>64742593Airdrop 5000 into Iran for insurgent support like the old Libertys. So you lose a.little.money, the resulting Iranian chaos would be worth it.
>>64744334It's probably bullshit, but it's funny enough that I want to go along with it and see where he takes it.
>>64745101>he needs more than one shotWhy do you miss?
>>64745101For something like a starter gun, you just use it to make noise, and if you make it as a single-shot breech-loader, you can make it megacheap.These guns are essentially starter pistols with open barrels for live ammo, which still leaves them ultracheap.
>>64742593.22 short pot metal single shot.Well - IF you and a friend could get a hooked catfish to stay still you could successfully muzzle-press it's third eye in the top of it's head and dispatch it - unless like it's a 200 pound Blue Catfish or something. I'd say like a 10-12 pounder would about be it's limit. Hey - ream it's chamber a little deeper and make it .22LR -THAT would help A L O T.
>>64745691>ream it's chamber a little deeper and make it .22LRWhy stop there? Just chamber ream out to .22ARC, it's really the best .22 design lately/ever.
>>64745695Eargesplitten loudenboomer or bust.
>>64742593Youll have to market them to Jeets. I hear theres a lot in Texas. “Please be of doing the needful saar, buy this pistol and embrace your ARYAN heritage! We accept GooglePlay cards and Bitcoin!”
>>64742906Thx. Imagine bankrupting the whole department and owning it. Laying off all officers without pay, firing the chief and taking his job, hiring retards and homeless, drug addicts, taking down all stop signs, throwing out all outstanding warrents, sleeping with the judge's wife, getting caught in a scandel and settling out of court with the city for $15M. Win.
>>64743918OBVIOUSLY either Mom or Dad had another child they never told me about... You made me swallow a half-smoked Muriel Corona Corona with that genius ad :D Right up there with Danny Akroyd's Bass-O-Matic...
>>64742593Maybe market them as trainers? Kind of like those cricket rifles l think they were called
>>64745722>Danny Akroyd's Bass-O-Matic...60yo detected.
>>64745107You don't have to go through a distributor. Some very small boutique manufacturers don't. Take care of it yourself and cut out the middle man. If OP is real, he's already doomed to fail, so might as well add an extra step.
>>64742593>go fund me pyramid scheme>distributor fees for 1000 pc min>early adopter program @$1000 ea>key "platinum member" fees>700 club style share holder investments>deposit monies to Isle of Man>whole thing collapes when import shipment is seized by ATF, >live in Cayman islands for lifeOp is genius.
>>64744284Huh, neat. So it's the second option.
I've got it OP, you need to sell them as an emergency kit. Sell them at liquor stores, gas stations, and outside of your local counties family court.>The Sadde CuckoldeJeet 1-shit packaged with a fifth of McCormick vodka, a cigar, and a single round of .22 short. Sells for $45.99>The Vicious CuckoldeJeet 1-shot, a fifth of bottom shelf tequila, a packet of Newports, and two .22 short rounds. Sells for $59.99>The Vengeful Cuckolde Jeet 1-shot, a pint of rye whiskey, a pack of Camel Wides, a flathead screwdriver, prybar, and 5.5" jackknife with glass-breaker pommel, and three .22 short rounds. Sells for $99.99>The Por CuckoldeJeet 1-shot, two mini shots of fireball, two Marlboro Blacks, and a single round of .22 short. Yours for just $34.95>UPGRADE ANY KEK-SHOT KIT WITH THE FAMILY PACKAGEFour rolls of duct tape, a family sized bags of M&Ms (peanut m&MS available upon request), a box of Nighttime Benadryl, and your choice of two 5 gallon gas jugs (filled separately) or a US fish and wildlife service waterway map book. Upgrade any package for just $75.00!Maybe switch up the specific brands of alcohol and smokes and such and make each packages packaging different, see of you can't get a collectors scene going too.
>>64746149Oh oh! Here's some more options:>The Cuckolde RAMPANT SIX Jeet 1-shots with lanyards, a pint of rye whiskey, four FOUR-LOKO (watermelon) tallboys, a pack of Winston Full Flavor 100s, and a box of twenty .22 short rounds. This premium package retails for $250.00.>The DELUXE family packageIncludes a KEK-SHOT family package as well as a selection of up to eight stuffed animals, two 30mg amphetamine tablets, and a $100 Applebee's gift card. Not sold separately, upgrade any package for $250.00.How the hell has no one in my life offered me a marketing job yet?
>>64742593>importing jeetjank guns from indiaDamn, and everyone thought I lost my mind when I was running a south african surplus import business back in the day...
>>64742593I fully and utterly expect that at least one /k/ommando here would pull a pic related and buy at least a 100 of these just for shits and giggles.Though you're more likely to get buys by convicted niggas as some sort of replacement for a saturday night special.
>>64742593You might be able to sell them as trapper's guns, especially in states that have silly ass laws when it comes to regs on what guns you can dispatch with.>>64743073>smoothboreOh boy.>>64743093NTA but someone managed to crack the forcing cone on my H&R revolver. Given it only says "22 rim fire", I'm assuming either someone used Stingers in it or it's meant for something like 22 long only and someone used supersonic 22LR. Can't say for sure, it was a previous owner's fuckup. Fits CB, short, long, LR, but not sure what it's rated for given the markings. I'd say long/LR subs max, like 900-1000FPS.
>>64744323>get them to buy a 3 pack of the guns for the "special low price" of $200 so they can share them with family or friends.Lol I have seen Turkish shotguns sold like this, either in 3 or 5 at a time if you can convince a couple buddies to buy one with you.
What sort of business plan did you present to get a $2 million loan? I own a business, never had business loan nor shopped one but I get emails/letters nonstop offering them and the requirements for even $50-250k loans are crazy, can't imagine what a multi-million loan entails. Immaterial to that, I agree with the guy that said you should package deals. If you sold 5 for like $200-300, I'd definitely buy 10 of these. I'd be stashing them all around my house for the fuck of it. Taking a shit? Got a gun within reach. Tinkering in the garage? Got a gun within reach. Organizing the attic? Got a gun within reach.
>>64743093It'll make a difference on older guns, you're looking at pressures and velocities many of these chintzy old pieces were never made for, if some old cheap thing like this isn't EXPLICITLY labelled or marketed as being chambered for .22 Long Rifle, I would not push my luck with that.Like the other anon's example, someone probably did shoot Stangers or Minimags or something in that H&R, and it didn't explode, but it busted up the forcing cone, and premature wear and parts breakage is what I'd expect. Hell, even on many old .22LR guns, they aren't all necessarily up for tolerating the modern high velocity stuff either.>>64746512Raffles, kits, and package deals, are probably his only salvation with this situation.These are not valuable or historically notable, but they can have a limited utility value in their very base function, and for being very cheap.I would suggest using the really low price point as an advantage, $50 is too high of a price for these, but you'd probably be able to move these at a somewhat steady pace at like $35/gun, and with Buy 2, Get 1 Free deals.
>>64742593>should I put my house for sale ASAP?Sell your house, buy an RV, tour the country visiting gun shows every weekend. No reason you couldn't sell over a hundred of these things at a decent sized 2-day show.
>>64746696>Steady pace at $35/gun>Buy 2 get one free>OP states cost was $24/gun>Losing 8 dollars every 3 gunsDo you guys think before typing?
>>64743611The thread has been redeemed.
>>64747189The buy 2 get 1 free deals don't need to have the same unit price dumbass. Also, if he did mean that (which he didn't), he would lose 2 dollars for every 3 guns, not 8.Do you think before typing? Or ever? Fuck.
>>64743375I dream of it anon.*clunk* What the fuck officer, thanks for the gift cards but I think your streets will run with blood now.*clunk* Do you ever just realize everyone will computer/3d print/steal/gernerally outnigger the police forever?*clunk* Since you have no more trade in cards officer, will that child over there be shot?Just rip their assholes.
>>64743708EVERY MOVE BUT BECOMING THE MEMELORD IS FAGGOT
>>64742593>Name arms company Global Arms Yard And Indian Domestic Services.>Advertise for $69 each.>Make marketing website that states that due to import restrictions, they had to be imported single shot.>Promse milling instructions and magazines to convert them to semi as coming "second quarter of 2027".>Sell all of them in 2026.>Shut down company in first quarter of 2027.
OP can easily get his money back. He films himself driving around in a van doing the gun buy back thing. Obviously he can't move all of them this way, it's just advertising. He teams up with a outlet who sells the guns in bulk so OTHER people can take them to gun buy backs. Done properly every damn buyback in the nation will get shut down by the damn things for a few years.
>>64742605yes... very good trigger saar
>>64742593You're gonna have to sell them cheap as fuck (like not much more than you paid, maybe 40 bucks?) and use guntubers and social media gun influencers to get the word out. They'd sell as a "so shit its kind of neat" novelty. Play up the history of them and all that. Market them as a meme. Even then, you're gonna face an uphill battle here bro.
>>64747307This is also a valid angle. You're gonna have to do some kind of meme shit here because people sure as shit won't buy this as
>>64747361*as a serious side arm
>>64747294Kek could also try this.Could he also maybe try to portray them as some sort of hidden diamond that demonstrates the ingenuity of the Indian people and market it to pajeets in the US?
>>64747361>>64747364For $35 i'd buy at least 3 for myself, if there was a decent buyback in MA i'd happily buy 30-60 to make some spare cash. They would be decent for a parlor gun, just shoot CB caps out of them.
>>64747384Yeah it could be a fun little novelty to have. I'd buy one but not for more than 35-40 bucks.
>>64742593Again OP, if this isn't a larp, email me at walter.sobchak1967@proton.me. I'll move these for you for a 10% cut on anything I sell. I need to know how fast you want them gone, what margins you're comfortable with, and most importantly - proof that everything you're doing is 100% legal. I've worked for distributors before. This isn't that hard to pull off.
>>64747434What do you recommend they be priced at?
>>64747439You wont know until you've sold a few. To open? Set the MAP at 100 bucks. That leaves room for everyone who touches them to make a decent profit, and its not too low to scare away most customers. Actual price will probably end up being lower. You sell to davidsons at say, 40 bucks a gun. They sell to the gunshop at 60, gunshop sits on them for a year, violates the MAP and uploads them for 80 a pop.
>>64747439The actual numbers are different, Im just tired at the moment. When I did this, manufacturers made good margins, distributors made less, and gunshops about the same as distributors. On guns, distributors and shops did about a 10-15% markup. Ammo was significantly higher, at least for us.Like I said, email me and we can talk.
>>64742593There is absolutely zero market for a .22 Short single shot pistol made in a shithole country. That is comically awful. Literally the only way it will sell is if it costs less than $90, then a few people will buy one as a cheap novelty toy or because they're absolutely destitute, but not so broke that they'll just steal a gun. Any more than double digit prices, and you're competing with the Hi Point and the Rough Rider, which are real guns that shoot more than one round, are chambered in a real caliber, and weren't built by retarded monkeys.
>>64747488What are the chances this shit just blows up in your hand when you fire it?
>>64747368>market it to pajeets in the USPut a Star of David on the slide and name your company "Israeli Military Armaments" or something legally distinct from IWI. You'll capture the jeet market, the boomer market, and the Jew market
>>64747497I doubt it will even fire, but if it does, fairly low chance it'll blow up since it's just a fucking .22 Short single shot. You could probably shoot one of those out of a fountain pen.>>64742605Double action trigger because you're going to need to drop the hammer on the round like 4 times before the round actually goes off
>>64747479>>64747461Kek delusional. This shit will NEVER sell unless you are planning to pull some Nigerian scammer tier shenanigans to fleece people.
>>64742593package and sell with rat shot, maybe advertise at feed stores and agricultural supply places as a pest removal tool or something. sell as cheap as is reasonable.
>>64744284>How this thing is suppose to workThe barrel is on the back of the trigger. The tubular magazine, loaded into the heel of the grip, feeds the round nose first into the chamber. As the trigger is pulled, the hammer is cocked while the barrel rotates into alignment. Once the barrel is in place, the hammer/breech face falls, detonating the primer. The case pushes the hammer/breech face back then bounces up through the ejection port. The trigger is released and another round can be fed and fired. It's a DAO system and the "slide" is just a shroud with no other function than to make this thing look like a gun.
>>64742593WHY?
>>64742593Have you considered getting in contact with the guy handing machetes to hobos
>>64747503Kek. Sell it as a mossad assassin gun.
>>64742593Why would anyone pay money for a single shot .22 short pistol? Seriously, you can make one with a handful of scrap.
>>64747327But how's the trigger sear?
>>64747461This business ain't textbook kid, try again.If he wants to start sky high they're $75 for a $60ish gun.
>>64747479Bro that market is like the 10/22 adjacent guns. Yeah they're dollar store but they're Gucci compared to this. You're selling some Savage 10/22 forgery with this shit.
>>64748144Unfortunately, Im probably older than you.The final selling price is governed by the gunshop and the distributor, not the importer. If they're comfortable with smaller margins or want to sell these at cost as a promo to get people in to the store, thats on them. He needs to make at least ten bucks a gun, which is definitely doable I think. Unfortunately, you picked the worst time of year to bring these in. Gun sales are very seasonal. September to december is the hot season. Things slow down in January substantially.
>>64748158>The final selling price is governed by the gunshop and the distributor, not the importer.He should engrave the MSRP alongside the import markings, like they're cans of Arizona iced tea.I'm still suggesting $69 as the right target.
>>64748658I dont think thats far off from the final selling price to the end user - hell its probably still high. But you never start low. And engraved whatever you want, it won't matter. The only company that was able to enforce MAP when I was doing it was Glock. If Glock caught you selling a pistol below MAP, no more Glocks for you. And if youre not a "Glock Stocking Dealer", good luck keeping your store open. At least in most parts of the country.
>>64742593so what bonded warehouse are you shipping those too? Since they're gonna need marked and stuff
>>64747678What the fuck are you babbling about? There's no magazine or feed on this thing.
>>64749434I think he means this, of which it's a kinda-clone.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asPh0Lbme7U
>>64749449That's actually very interesting. If this is the kind of gun OP had acquired in bulk here, even as a blank only gun, I think it would be more interesting to people.Hypothetically, if they were this kind of double-action repeater but in .22 Short, it would probably make it somewhat attractive at a cheap price.Theaters would love a cheap and simple .22 blank pistol like this.
>>64742593lol lmao
>>64749642I have a feeling the tubular magazine won't feed rounds with an OAL bigger than those little blanks, effectively making it a single-shot with .22 Short or even .22 CB. This reminds me of those illegally converted starter pistols that get seized by the cops all the time in Europe.
For $50 before fees? Shit. I'd buy a pocket rocket from Jeeetfire Jim.
>>64742593It one of them gets featured in a say schoolshooting or in a SEO murder, another in a vid of an indian immigrant as the veapon of an Indian in teh US they'll find their market step by step. Just don't hurry.
>>64745101enough for a suicide. Another market btw.
>>64749722Most probably, you'd need to redo the magazine and action for that.Still, for just CB blanks, those would be good for theater companies, they like cheap and simple .22 blank guns, which aren't TOO loud, and the stiff trigger would allow for a certain margin of safety (though top venting would probably be preferable given the typical lack of gun sense in the average actor).I found this dude's website somewhere, he had a rental prop company, and he had this whole fucking litany of H&R .22 caliber blank revolvers which he had built up or dressed up for various things, he described how he loved them for how inexpensive and common they used to be, but how you can't get them anymore.That guy would probably buy like 20 of these Indian Hesbee pistols if the bores were plugged for blanks, and probably like 100 of those double-action repeater blank guns.
Since they're produced over 50 years ago they're even C&R eligible. Technically the smoothbore makes it a bit difficult, but if you were to register it as an AOW even CA would allow it.
The fuck is that shit lmao, my fingers wouldnt fit in it
>>64742593market them as weaponized paper weight
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So now what
I wish you had imported those Indian police Webleyshttps://youtube.com/shorts/7ZWr2jmfTxY?si=fGrT5quex9ntrVkk
>>64751296>?si=fGrT5quex9ntrVkkthank you glownigger
>>64742593Put indian flags and a little cowshit on them and market toward call centers
>>64742593Brand them as the SAAR Redeemer.
>>64742593if you make a combo pack where each gun is a slightly reduced price but comes with a pirate holster id buy 3. Definitely agree with anons you shouldnt mark these above 70$ though at the VERY most.
>>64752071that or just translate liberator into hindi since these are glorified "take your opponents gun" machines
>>64752732>>64742593Taarak
>>64752870Be sure to inscribe "MADE IN BHARAT" on the slide as well
>>64742644>Import $1500 for every unit?are you stupid?80,500x$1500 = $120,750,000and that's just import fees
>>64753750Sign me up, I'm feeling good about this!
>>64742644We import winch motors from india. They are fucking dogshit; hardware, paint, failure rate and the boxes smell like cat piss. But apparently they are cheap.
OP, you should sell these for like $50-75 a piece. You'll probably lose too much on shipping, so just go to gun shows or something. You can probably find FFLs to buy them in bulk too.
>>64752732>>64752870That's just not ridiculous enough for the level of buffoonery OP is apparently engaged in.
>>64742644>buy name brand Tylenol>pay name brand price>active ingredient made in india Race to the bottom.
>>64754116There's no way he sells 80,000 of these at $50+shipping+transfer. He should sell at $35 and hope to maybe make $800,000 if he's really lucky.
>>64754200$35 and its still a relative paperweight, I dont think I'd buy one even if it were free.
>>64754299For $35 out the door I'd pick one up as a toy, but the transfer fee really kills it.
>>64742593Anon, I admire your balls. If you get them in the country you can def make money on this. But holy shit you're going to have to hustle. Given the size of the inventory you should probably do some on gunbroker but most wholesale with other gun shops. But NGL if I saw a retarded gun like that in a gun shop I would instantly buy it for $100 because it is so damn silly. Godspeed, diamond-hands
>>64742745but he ded
where would you even store 80,000 guns. in your house?
>>64754718Considering it was only $5000 to ship all 80,000 they can't take up that much space. They're tiny pocket pistols. You could probably fit them all in a storage locker.
>>64754718>>64754771Assuming each box is about 8 cubic inches (.75" by 4" by 3") it's a shade under 4500 cubic feet. A standard ISO container is a bit over 1300 cubic feet. With room for error and pallets, it's around four shipping containers' worth. So not completely unmanageable. Shaving an inch off the box in either dimension, or just packing them into crates, could well cut that down to something like two shipping containers. It's still madness but if you've got property or a large shop then it's not gonna break his back.
>>64743611KEKED AND SAVED
>>64754820>>64754771okay, i guess but its still fucking absurd lmao. theres literally no way this will be profitable unless he figures out how to sell it in massive bulk as is. if you spend 1 minute per gun, thats 55 solid days of work, nonstop to do anything. youd have to sell these in batches of 1000 to make it even worth the time, and even THEN, thats 80 different gun stores that hes going to have to find, convince to buy a 1000 fucking single shot .22 short relics. this will be his problem for literally years, if not the next decade lmao
>>64742593Airdrop or discreetly distribute these across the continental United States like the US did with FP-45 Liberator pistols in occupied France during WW2.Ideally in low-income neighborhoods or large cities governed by democrats.This will cause untold damage and will net you exactly zero profit but on the bright(?) side, no one will ever forget you or the Great Bellygun Scourge of '26.Live in impoverished anonymous infamy (assuming you don't fuck up and get caught) for the remainder of your days.
>>64743611include me in screencap
You got jeeted. Enjoy your rusty and shat down old shit.
>>64742593>2 million>must be 50 bucks each to strike even>they're probably rusty>time to spend on each individual gun is over 1 hour each>an hour for a dude with 2 million must be at least 50-70 bucks of his timeYou dun fugged up. I know you're probably a gun salesperson that can spin these well, but honestly there's better options in the actual used market.You also bought during india fuckaroo of tariffland. You should've waited until trump is out of office and the tariffpocalypse was reduced to a manage worthy level.Test their trigger pull, call them practice pistols or rather, youth practice pistols.Otherwise historical quality (good milsurp style) top quality pistols for museums before you trickle them out.Also if you are the ONLY PERSON SELLING THESE, try to sell high at first to the ones most interested. Then trickle them lower later on. They're not produce that expires.
>>64752732>translate liberator into hindiIdentified early on: >>64745338
Dont want to reread the thread but did he take a loan out for this shit? If so wont the interest fuck him if he doesnt move these fairly quick?
>>64742593LMAO. Anon... you fucked up.
>>64743611a genius walks among us
>>64743611NO! NOT T3H /k/OT!!! MONSTER!>>64742593Having read so far, some top ideas.I'll add:- sell here on /k/ marketplace, give is a special deal you can afford for a couple weeks or the first hundred you sell here or something- set price at $75/$80 for a single unit, but price break for people who buy 5 at a time, like $250 or $300(You) CAN document these are virgin, original 1959 manufacture, right? That makes them unusual collectables, so don't undersell yourself too far. If you're not getting action, put some on temporary price reduction every now and then at random shake up your market and get your buyers looking & waiting for discounts. The raffle idea is pretty solid, too.>>64745145WWJJD?>what would Jetfire Jim do?
>>64745145sometimes its better to forget
>>64756860Did...did we ever find out what that thing is?
>>64743611Holy shit lmao
>>64754820>Assumes boxesPaper and grease
