What tools for self defense would you recommend for someone in Europe to have when shit goes down. There are black powder revolvers shotguns and rifles, but you can't buy them everywhere in Europe. There are crossbows and bows but what is really their capacity to defend, and of course air rifles, in some countries they are unrestricted in some countries they are cucked and they are a hassle to have around in the case of an emergency. Better yet what should everybody own, not just weapons, in case they want to survive more than 72 hours.
>>64746392Homemade melee weapons fashioned in advance.
>>64746405you can buy machetes, axes and hammers almost everywhere, I am talking about some range too or what would be a good combo
>>64746392Blows can very much defend an area with adequate preperation. Their rate of fire is much better than a crossbow or black powder musket/rifle. You're not going to be sprinting and jumping around like legolas, with a compound bow especially, but english archers were supposedly able to put out 10-12 arrows a minute in rapid fire scenarios.
>>64746392DIY laser cannon
>>64746392>but you can't buy them everywhere in Europe>black powderthose are legal to own without a license everywheretry make your bait believable
>>64746414Your country, you tell me. Personally, I like FAL. It is not the best, but is is ok.
>>64746392>What tools for self defense would you recommend for someone in Europe to have when shit goes downdrone motors flight controllers, propellors, frames, vtx esceverything else depends where and that's how I know you're a retarded burger, I mean do you think'prepping' is going to be the same climate for someone in Norway Vs Spain?>>64746392>here are black powder revolvers shotguns and rifles, but you can't buy them everywhere in Europe.pretty much anywhere yes even the UK lets you have shotguns and many EU nations pretty much anything you want if you are not a ciminal and do the paperwork..Europe won't have any SHTF because EU nations are not shambolic shitshows like US states WW1 and WW2 and numerous other conflicts tell you that prancing around with an AR like some American clown is never the answer anyway.
>>64746392some random shit that comes to mind:>consider a spear too>gas cooker and plenty of cartridges (remember these use up oxygen from the air when burning, dont run them in a closed room lest you suffocate)>canned foods are good, dont only get uncooked rice and noodles since those will require loads of clean water to cook whereas cans are edible cold>food supplements with vitamins and minerals, they're good for you and alleviate some bad side effects of an unbalanced diet>fire extinguisher(s), you really should have one already, they may very well prevent a small problem from turning into a really big one, even now you cant be sure that the fire department is there right away>proper axe and saw to cut firewood when needed, keep them in your trunk to possibly allow your car to pass a road bloacked by branches/trees after a storm>means of purifying water and storing it>a generator (gas/diesel) and energy storing units, solar is helpful too but dont rely on it only>first aid supplies and disinfectant, basic meds like painkillers>some lessons from covid: protective (ffp2/3) masks and plenty of toilet paper>be nice with your neighbors and they may be nice to you when you need it most>>64746439no they fucking arent, like in germany you need a fullass gun license for cap-n-ball revolvers, and while you can freely own single shot cap n ball guns and even carry flintlocks, the propellant requires a license still. and then theres other countries where you cant have repros so its gotta be 19th century originals and so on.>>64746473>and do the paperwork...and spend loads of cash and constantly attend shooting clubs, allow police to enter your home for "safety inspections" whenever they want, risk getting your property taken away on a whim when you dare not agree with the politcal views of the government...we saw small breakdowns of order when fucking toilet paper got scarce during early covid, imagine whatd happen if some proper deadly plague hit.
>>64746613finally somebody that gets it and is helpful, double barrel flintlock perfectly legal and requires no license, make that caplock and it is an atomic bomb
>>64746613>I want to be prepared>but I don't want to put in a reasonable amount of effort or resources to be prepared you can get the most fancy flashy bit of kit you want and I the license cuck that does my legally mandated 12 range trips with my bog standard 9mm will plug you because no matter the kit, if you don't train with it you are shit with itbut I'd bet my left nut you need something completely off the table becausea) you are a convicted violent felonb) you're all sorts of mental spergery and you'd turn it on someone else or yourself
>>64746637a retard so delusional it makes me puke, even typing the wrong thing can forfeit all your gun rights
OPs images screams that it was made 2012-2015.Those builds are so terrible...
Goedendag, a hybrid spear/club that can be fashioned out of readily-available materials in even the most cucked environments.
>>64746753>goedendagdude it's 11pm, het is goedenacht
>>64746392>tools for self defenseIf you don't care about the law or expect society to collapse in one way or another, see if you can get a blank gun and these gas blanks used for "animal defense". Pair it with a Gasmask and you can effectively turn a few rooms into lethal gas chambers, though I'd advice you not to do it at home>that's retarded, there's better options, etcyes to all but its fairly easy and cheap in my country and its always nice to have more options, you never know when you might need to gas a few peoplet. kraut>Better yet what should everybody own, not just weapons, in case they want to survive more than 72 hours.Food, some MREs are good for that especially if you plan on running away, Water and purification (2 methods at least, Boiling isn't enough), a map of your local and not so local area incase you need to walk to the nearest city/evac point but aren't too sure on how to get there or don't want to take the roads, a knife (not necessarily for fighting, it can be a good tool for many things), adequate clothing (keep rainclothes and winter clothing IF you need them)Gas mask if you're worried about that stuffKeep your ID with you! It's more than likely that you'll meet some government troops and it helps if you can show them that you are you.Lighter(s) and Cigarettes are useful for barteringFirst Aid Kit(s)Antibiotics too but those are long termwhat >>64746613 said also keep wet wipes, they help to keep clean when there is no water, ask any veteran ever
>>64746392You guys really think you're going to war with the US don't you?
I really don't understand this because that amount of ammunition in OP is never going to be enough.You'd need so much for it to be a pragmatic amount in an apocalyptic scenario that you should really probably just commit to a single kind of ammunition and tailor your guns around that round instead of trying to just get some ammo for a bunch of different calibers.
