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>the FBI didnt just switch to 9mm because its cheaper and let more people(women) qualify! The bullets are just better than .40 or .45!
>sure we compared it to watered down .40 and .45 with bad bullet design that we used because it let women and manlets qualify...but but its better it is!
Idk why the FBI is the basis for peoples choice in personal defensive weapons when their criteria is letting female detectives not limp wrist jam glawks in the incredibly rare shootouts they have, but be my guest i suppose
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Why doesn't the FBI let each agent use their preferred weapon?
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>>64748203
Dont ask questions you dont want the answer to
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they got a lot of guns, a lot of agents, and barely any kills as an organization. I don't think it matters what they carry, at all. The opinions on what they carry from members of this forum matters even less.
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>>64748205
why wouldn't he want an answer to that?
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>another pistol caliber thread
All pistol calibers are shit, every one depends on shot placement and the vast majority of people shit with pistols live.
It you expect to be killing (high risk warrent) you send in guys with rifles.
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9mm is cheaper so you could be paying less taxes.
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>>64748684
At my range 50 rounds of 357 and 9mm come at the same price
Except 357 is more fun.
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>>64748689
>buying at the range
shiggy hope you ain't
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>>64748689
profoundly retarded post
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10mm, whateva happened there...
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SHORT AND WEAK
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10 mili-does what 9 mili-can't
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>>64748201
But that's not what happened.
Hollow point design was garbage, which essentially biased handgun effectiveness towards high mass bullets.
When hollow point design improved, 9mm was the major beneficiary because designers could tailor bullets to have good weight retention, 12-16 inches of penetration in gel, barrier blind capabilities, etc. What did .40 and .45 get? Good weight retention, 12-16 inches of penetration in gel, barrier blind capabilities, etc. So larger calibers are designed to the same standard as 9mm, but the added inertia and muzzle energy allows the designers to enhance bullet expansion. Since they get no benefit in penetrating more, they trade it for final bullet frontal area.
It's up to you if you want to get that added wound volume at the cost of higher recoil. It's just that statistically you'll shoot better with a 9mm and an instance of a gunshot's effect on target being decided by handgun caliber choice is almost null.
And when we get to matters of budgeting 9mm is cheaper for agencies to purchase.
>>64748598
But they have the funding to do scientifically valid gel tests. It doesn't matter if a local PD gets more kills per year on average than the entire FBI, they have no control over variables.
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>>64748203
They do? The caveat is they have an approval process for personally owned weapons and some are not allowed. Nothing is stopping them from using .45 or 9mm.

>>64749949
>statistically you'll shoot better with a 9mm and an instance of a gunshot's effect on target being decided by handgun caliber choice is almost null.
this is the real reason why 9mm is favored. In a high stress situation, most pistol rounds will do pistol round amounts of damage so it's better to hit more times due to more manageable recoil for accurate follow up shots and more rounds in the mag for more follow up shots.



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