New Abrams just dropped
>>64756152What's different about it? The front differently looks different
Army be trannyposting
>>64756152I don't like the color. Abrams not in desert pain just looks wrong to me
>>64756158by the looks, an unmanned turret with autoloader by cutting off the back of the existing turretpossible hydro-pneumatic suspensionand the new transmission
>>64756152ATGMs mounted on turrets are cool.>>64756158There are no viewports. Even if more cameras and sensors are going to be used, I would expect a backup.
>>64756173Boo nigga
>>64756152From Chieftain>Ok. Some initial observations. Obviously lots of media will be coming through over the next two days, with their own topics and thoughts. My own video will come soon. >1) Don't get hung up about anything above the hull roof. In fact, don't get hung up about everything below the hull roof either. As suspected, this is a test vehicle which is focused on crew operation. They just needed something to do the turret job, which is why they grabbed an A1 turret and modified it to fit the needs of the crew test program (including autoloader). A bespoke turret is being made with everything incorporated from the beginning instead of added on like the current tank, but that gets integrated after they know for sure what they need from testing. This vehicle has the turbine engine, other test vehicles are running the automotive trials on the Cat. Eventually everything will be put together, but that time is not now. >2) As the RWS is above the hull roof, again, don't get hung up on it. They needed an RWS for testing, that's the one they grabbed. When they brought it to the show, the RWS had an empty rack, it could carry a Javelin, so they put a Javelin on it. The purpose is not to show that the thing can carry or is intended to carry a Javelin specifically, nobody here thinks there is any merit to using space/height/weight for things which things which don't have to be on the tank for the tank to do tank things. They have been very focused on the design on the tank's requirements as a tank. Instead the purpose was to demonstrate "the RWS will be modular and able to be reconfigured as required". For similar reasons, don't get too caught up on the Mk19, secondary armament mix and location has not been finalized. RWS'll shoot down drones though. >3) Power capacity for a coffee maker (110v plug socket) has been provided. (It actually has other uses officially, but you know someone will hook up a Keurig)
>>64756152>>64756183>4) Confirmed 3 man crew. In theory they expect a hatch up top for admin moves, maintenance access etc, (this vehicle does have one) and a cramped manual backup position if things get desperate. >5) Tank can shoot and move with one crewman. It's not ideal, but it'll work. Again, I can't overstate how important the software you can't see is. Fully configurable crew stations, combat assistance and upgradeability is inherent. When it comes time to let the tank do everything on its own, there will be an app for that.>6) No more broken torsion bars.>7) Whilst I understand why it's a static and closed display, it is, granted, a bit underwhelming to look at in photographs. The interesting stuff is under the hood and the tank on display is a great talking point for the folks here who are very excited about the end design, we could have talked for hours. The engineers will geek out more than the tank nerds, this really is a massive step in capability. The promise this vehicle shows to keep M1's position as "apex predator on the battlefield" is definite, even if those who want to see the final, low profile, 60 ton vehicle right now are disappointed. It takes time to brew perfection.
>>64756183Tanks should have a Kuerig, but mount the pod horizontally so you can feed/eject it like a mini tank gun.
>>64756186>When it comes time to let the tank do everything on its own, there will be an app for that.holy based
So...basically nothing observable from the exterior and anything you can see was just surplus thrown on as a placeholder.
>>64756183After seeing all these different tank concepts in the past few years I think that they are all converging on the same general characteristics >unmanned turret>large 130/40mm gun>autocannon RWS with programmable ammunition>hybrid powerplant>APS >optional drone launch capability
>>64756227and don't forget>optionally autonomous unmanned platform
>>64756152Leave the Tanks to the Germans.
>>64756231That could be an option but IMO it's not in the near future for tanks intended for mainline use.Maybe we see some older marks converted into drone platforms
>>64756227The most important development is changing the tank to run on an operating system with plug and play instead of multiple separate systems stuck together. Planes did this a decade ago, ships got there with the Zumwalt but hasn't been used since (Not sure if Type 55 runs on ship management as well). Tanks are getting there now.
>>64756159No driver hatch? How are crew getting in/out? Just through the turret?
>>64756238>unmanned M60 pattons crossing the fulda gap on their way to obliterate the russian 'volunteer' africa corpsPLESAE GOD LET IT BE REAL
unseasoned ahh abrams
>>64756245>How are crew getting in/out?That's the best part!
>>64756245the two armor panel in the cutout look like they probably slide outwards, opening up crew access
>>64756165I-is that a... d-d-d-diesel???YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAUUUUUHH BOUT TIME!
>>64756218It's a booth model. It is what it is.
>>64756174>>64756158Looks like a new add on armor package as well
>>64756227>>large 130/40mm gunWhy? The current generation of 120mm guns are perfectly capable and you don't want to sacrifice ammo capacity by going up in caliber unless there's a need to.
>>64756152>same shit in a different toiletit's just like when russians grab old rust buckets and do their "deep modernizations"
>64756296Da, cumrade. Everyone else is just as incompetent, only better at hiding it because they aren't naturally truthful like Russians are.
>>64756295My guess is future-proofing it.Multi-purpose ammunition, longer penetrators and such.
looks like a nork parade piece lmao
>>64756303the front features the most dogshit welds the world has ever seen on a tankbet my life it was made by pablo and juanalso where the hell is the driver's hatch?
>>64756158The turret is visibly shortened for unmanned/autoloader but it still uses a bustle so no pop-tops. See how it doesn't overhang the engine compartment?Then those welded camera boxes around the edges of the turret roof are probably situational awareness cams, but they're going to need more than that for the crew to be happy.
>literally a bad copy of the North korean chonmasPathetic.
>>64756296>take hollow steel box full of stuff>replace all the stuff>replace the steel box too>iTs ThE sAmE tHiNg
The norktards stay vindicated, they were 10 years ahead.
>>64756296bot broke
>>64756325>the most dogshit welds the world has ever seen on a tankpoint of order
Damn so many people in here who can't read reacting to the random javelin. Just don't post next time guys.
>>64756165>ACT1075>https://saemobilus.sae.org/papers/advanced-combat-transmissions-sapa-act1000-act850-act1075-2024-01-3952Any car/diesel guys want to explain this one? It looks good
>>64756345literally no one itt commented on it until you just now.
>>64756342I've never seen a tank with a butthole before
>>64756350>32 speed mechanical propulsion in forward and reversei can't imagine how 32 whole gears fit in the thing but let's assume it's true. in that case that tranny is a ticking bomb without literal perfect maintenancethey might cheat it out like tractors do with 3-4 gears and then use a torque converter to have low-mid-high ranges, and then the same but on reverse
It's deceptively simple looking, if it works as advertised, this turret counters lancet style drones easily, FPVs might have a better chance if the operator can use terrain to get close.
>>64756186>>6) No more broken torsion bars.Reject torsion bars.Also reject hydropneumatic.Retvrn to volute springs.
>>64756417> reject hydropneumatic.Fuck off retard.
>>64756440This.
>>64756173Unwashed peasant take
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GF-5WILH5Uus tanker destroying this shit, live
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>>64756509is that the fucking club penguin dance
>>64756152>>'new abrams'>It's a laughably fake mock upYou would think that if the US was going to make a cargo cult Songun-Ho body kit for cold war era trash they would at least make it look believable.
>>64756165Engine is the yellow thing in back which will have a generator attached. That's an electric motor on the tranny (Kek) for hybrid power. It will run on battery for a short distance to keep quiet
Still a gas guzzling turbine?
>>64756746No if the yellow engine of above is its engine.
>>64756152Well at least it ain't as bad as facebook integration on the Challenger tank.
>>64756186>1crew minimumThey will draft all those warthunder player and send them on the frontline but since USA players ingame are the shittiest of them all they will good only as drone bait.
>>64756152Like chieftan says this is a chassis test bed without the final engine. The turret is crows 1 so that wont be used, same with the main gun subject to change from the m1 chassis and turret used in this.>>64756391complete guess but i bet its a compound transmission, like koenigsegg they use 3x3 gears with individual clutches for a 9 speed transmission thats light and small in size.
>>64756165>Yellow engineIs that a caterpillar?
>>64756447Can someone stablize it and make it 10x faster?
>>64756391Looking at the whitepaper it's using 5 planetary gearsets in Module C, just one more than the 8-speed ZF 8HP that's in so many cars. It looks like it has a forward/reverse unit in Module A so that gives you the 16 forward, 16 reverse speeds. Part of the whole design exercise was the elimination of torque converters and associated waste heat.>Demonstrated pivot turns at 4 RPMThat is a lot of skidding tread.
>>64756152tracks appear smaller probably cutting some weight their too. also good about removing torsion bars
>>64756152>New Abrams just dropped
>>64756152Huh, the turret was changed less drastically than I expected. Are all the old M1A2s and M1A1s going to be refurbished to the A3 standard?
>>64757056read the post that has notes from chieftain. The turret is just their for testing its not the "Real" one.
>>64757056>Huh, the turret was changed less drastically than I expected.Thats just slapped on for testing purposes. The real change is in the internal hardware and software
>>64756611Genuinely seems like a tank proto fighter mafia boomer. Saying autoloaders are stupid should immediately disqualify him from speaking on anything related to war.
>>64756152Uncle Boris axes, "when display for General Public....General Public was my commanding officer in war, heh heh"
>>64757086Uncle Boris continues, "Nice to see USA is catching up to Best Korea in practice of slapping extra shit on top of tank turret. Good place for it and tank doesn't mind, and saves legs of infantry".
>>64756417serious ques:How independent are the two bogies? Are they "semi-independent" in that they are a unit due to "M" but they can bounce and rock as that unit and if so what do AA, X do?Wait, looks like Q slides on T, butt I'm still confused.
>>64756295>>64756304Doesn't rheinmettal have like a giga chad 130mm that they haven't really bothered developing since they can't imagine a conceivable target for it? Russian tanks? Chinese? lmao
>>64756152>>64756165Germanbros, our response?
