>In mid-November 1939, a German neon lamp tube and a design of a prototype proximity fuze based on capacitive effects was received by British Intelligence as part of the Oslo Report.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_fuzeAllied zisters... Did we get too cocky?Now we can't even claim the VT fuze anymore.What else is there? The Nordon bombsight? That was a better guarded secret than the Manhattan project?>The Norden was not as secret as believed; both the British SABS and German Lotfernrohr 7 worked on similar principles, and details of the Norden had been passed to Germany even before the war started.[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norden_bombsightWhich also disproves the idea that Germany's spying was worse than that of the Allies.The cavity magnetron? Invented by Hans Hollmann in 1935.Speaking of that, how about radar in general?>The Freya radar was more advanced than its British counterpart, Chain Home.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freya_radarBut surely at least our cryptography was better, right?Well let's look at the most advanced Allied cipher machine of WW2:>This said, new speculative evidence emerged more recently that the M-209 code was broken by German cryptanalysts during World War II.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGABA
>>64761690>muh Nazi sci-Horses.
>>64761690Who won the war?
>>64761701>They have Tiger?>Shermans will do
>>64761690Turns out that al the science does, in fact, not win the war if you run out of raw materials, factories and trained soldiers.But boy did that boost everyone's post-war economies
>>64761690idea =/= a finished design going into industrial production
>>64761707Who won the war again? Who lost more tankers again? Who lost more tanks again?
>>64761690>prototypeSo not a working production unit. Both sides had the same goal, both sides chose the same operating principles, one side made it work. This happens all the time.
>>64761707>Mein gott, does that Sherman have a slighly longer gun? SAVE ME GUDERIAN AAAAAAA
Why does modern /k/ seethe so much at Germany?
>>64761701>muh horsesSomething which EVERY European army at that time used.It's called a lack of resources.Evidently even Britain with all its colonies suffered from this.Britain passed the cavity magnetron and the proximity fuze to America so that they could be mass produced in the first place.One couldn't have done without the other.And as I already said in the OP the former was invented in 1935 by a German (improved at Oxford in 1940 by adding more cavities) and the latter was certainly inspired by the German efforts to develop such a device (the principle was different, the VT fuze didn't use electrostatics but the Doppler effect [interestingly post-war proximity fuzes used the electrostatic principle])
>>64761735It's not seething but more annoyance.
>>64761742>Britain used horses >while being supplied by the USWhy would you lie?
>>64761742>Something which EVERY European army at that time used.Yes but we're only concerned with 4 European militaries, UK, Germany, France and Italy>Evidently even Britain with all its colonies suffered from this.Not to the extent the Germans did.
>>64761735Wehraboos are like reddit atheists, its more about the people hyping up Germany that are the obnoxious part.
>>64761790https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_(United_Kingdom)>6,081 horsesNothing compared to CONTINENTAL European countries but still.After all, Britain never was a land power but a naval one.See for instance France:>At the onset of World War II France mobilized over half a million horseshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_World_War_IISo no, it wasn't unusual to use horses, even for France, that had oil from its colonies while Germany had to rely on Romania for that.And my comment was meant more in relation to a lack of resources in general, that's why I brought up the fact that Britain had to have its stuff produced in the US.>>64761793>Not to the extent the Germans did.No and I didn't claim that.
>>64761690>had VT fuzes since the start of the war>never used them, even when they were bombed everydayGermans were even more retarded than i thought
>>64761690So, why Germany didn't use it during war?
>>647617351.the zoomis oppose the boomiesand boomies liked german stuff2.muh 'murica stronkwhen discussing specific vessels or items or tactics there will always be some tiny dicker who throws the entire war economy in to have an argument (like in this thread)3.zoomies dont read books and in general dont go into depth of things, headline/influencer parroting is their rhetoric. and history channel is the source of influencers.4.anything miltary has been labelled ultra hitler and can only be worked on in a post colonial bullshit context by real academics who know how to research and write. which no one really interested in the topic reads, because its mostly lefty garbage.so you end up with semi professionally excerpted works like the books of ian mcshillum, who is an enthusiast, but no professional in research.
>>64761735They were not much better than current Russia
>>64761865>NAFOOur local wehraboo is not only retarded but also a redditor. Im not even surprised
>>64761735>modern /k/Internet wehraboos have always been obnoxious as fuck.
>>64761885americans circlejerking about 'murica stronk are also obnoxious, but nobody on /k/ calls them out for It.
>>64761896The Soviets required communist sympathisers to get that info too. McCarthy was right. Disney was right.
>>64761890Americans at least have reasons to gloat.
>>64761838>No and I didn't claim that.I really do wonder whether you realise the inherently disingenuous nature of that statement.
>>64761910yeah, your country Is In great shape
>>64761927Doing better than yours for sure.
>>64761932lol
>>64761938When you refuse to admit what shithole you live in Im going to assume its a really bad one, like India.
>>64761948Yeah, at least you admitted what shithole you live In.
>>64761799>naziI. FUCKING. WISH.
>>64761849>PattonDid he forget that Germany declared war on the US?
>>64761954>No uYeah youre brown and seething about America
>>64761982You are brown and seething about America.
>>64761986see>>64761982
>>64761982>Americans are brown>White majority country Get the fuck out Ranjeesh.
>The one jeet that can solve captchas having a meltie about Americans
>>64762004your vice-president Is married to a jeet
>>64762000>looks at ICEYeah no. Fuck off Ranjeesh.
>>64762007You are literally a jeet
>>64762007>whataboutism Confirmed Indian.
>>64762014>>64762017I'm not a jeet
Is it just me or are the modern wehraboos kinda lazy?There is no creativity or energy in their seething compared to the ones over a decade ago.
>>64762023wehraboos live in your head rent free, there are none on modern /k/, there's just mutts and ziggers
>>64762021Imagine living in such a shithole that youre too cowardly to reveal where you live. Indian for sure.
>>64762021t. jeet
>>64762027I don't understand how my shithole Is relevant to this conversation
>>64762021>i-iamYou are a fucking piss drinking jeet.
Uh oh jeet meltie!
>>64762038I'm whiter than half of your country
>>64761690wow they must surely would have won a war against such inferior opponents, innit?
>>64762042>SAAR I AM BRAHMIN
>>64762035Have you tried not being a brown /int/cel obsessed with Americans? You started this by seething about the USA.
>>64762044Like I said, I'm not a jeet.It must be terrible to live with smelly indians in your head all the time.
>>64762035The whole premise of the thread was some /v/-tier shitposting, OP(always a fag) has no-one to blame but themselves.
>>64762023niggadayumu forgot tha borewhere tha front sight post atshiiiieeeeet*smacks lips*
>>64762051At no moment I "seethed", I just pointed out the truth, americans are fucking obnoxious with their patriotism, It's gay and lame
>>64762051Youre brown for sure.
>>64762023the guy in the back is running in full redbut at least his head is leave-camo'dyeah
>>64762056>>64762050accidentally quoted the wrong post, ops>>64762057Dude, half of your country Is brown at this point, who are you trying to own
>>64761690>>64761707So this is the form /pol/ spam takes now? Just wheraboo thread posting and the same decades old goreimage.
>>647620072nd jeeta you say?its called curry diarrhea.and it stinks up the white house.worse than granpa smell and jeeto dust.oh wait a minute...
>>64762061Maybe try /int/ with this meltdown, its full of brown incels obsessed with America just like you.
>>64762070uh oh counter argument not received well.tiger is good.sherman is shit.but the olive brown turd was many enough to overcome the superior tiger.ok?
The only good German tank was the Panther. Panzer IV was at its end of life, the Tigers were a shitshow.
>>64762077wrong.shermans were shit.too shitty.but airforce saved 'em.
>>64762094Why are you blatantly replying to yourself now.
>>64762098Hes upset about Americans and must let everyone know.
>brown person simps for a nation that regarded him as subhumanWhat a cretinous existence.
With the multipolar world dream in utter shambles, streetshitters are now forced to dust off the old wehraboo cope.
>>64761890american website, nogunz
>>64761991I still don't get why they do that with trains
>>64762143Because like Children they are stupid and easily influenced by media.
>>64762143Indians have a religious fascination with massive crushing vehicles. Juggernaut is English but it has ties with Indian rolling temples. They would sacrifice children by crushing them under the wheels. Trains are basically sacred to them in a way because they also are massive crushing things.
>>64762023That's normal for anything outsourced to turd worlders.
>>64762023Because they're all third world brownoids now.
Explain to me the mentality of having to constantly shit on the Third Reich's military capabilities and competence. Doesn't that make the allies who struggled against them look like retarded subhuman goyslaves?
>>64762098>>64762101i guess there at least 2-3 guys shitposting you proud yanks
>>64762185Explain the mentality of worshiping the losing side, nobody posits that the Germans weren't tough opponents. It's just that their dickriders anaesthetise themselves with the belief they only lost to numbers rather than the reality of them being beaten by better and more competent foes.
>>64762187Maybe someday your shithole will do something you can be proud of.
>>64762194You seem like a buttmad ethnic parasite, sorry I offended you.
>>64762185Germans did well and had some good equipment, but they werent perfect. Its a backlash against all the early internet wehraboos who were really obnoxious after watching History Channel "documentaries" gloating absolutely everything about Third Reich.>I swear to god if i have to hear about Hugo Boss-uniforms ever again
>>64762185Its a reaction to wehraboos hyping up horse logistics and wood gas economics.
>>64761690>But surely at least our cryptography was better, right?Yes you dumb faggot. When you compromise the enemy's trusted cipher device and can read their internal communiques then the Germans can talk. Also go review a list of inventions from the Manhattan Project then neck yourself
>>64762204>no argumentDid the script run out Ramesh? Please apologise to the nearest tree for wasting oxygen, I imagine there's some a few miles outside your dusty shanty shithole.
>>64762213The irony is that all the equipment they worship comes from the losing half of the war. They're deepthroating the things that failed on the battlefield.
>>64762230Yeah, its never about the stuff that actually mattered when holding the vast frontlines, always about wunder ships, wunder tanks and wunder planes.
Reminder that hot soup on the front line did more for Germany than any of these wunderwaffen.
>>64762213hugo boss?they make nice suits.an interesting detail is, that the sa had brown uniformsbecause hugo boss got lots of leftover brown material from the ww1cafrica corps of letto vorbeck.
>>64762265reminder ussr did all the hard work, usa just provided soup cans and came to late for anything but beating a dead horse
>>64762315The USSR was dead without all those trains and trucks the US donated.
>>64762320right, your most imortant archievement was the delivery of soup cans by train and truck.the gis were dead without all the kills the soviets provided.
>>64762327Your ESL babble bait would hit harder if you could type properly.
>>64762143>want to look cool on social media>record self casually standing or walking by tracks as a train rushes by, to show off what a badass you are>fail to realize that the train is going to be significantly wider than the rails>???>Thomas has to get all the blood hosed off while the Fat Controller gives him a stern talking to
>>64762336why, do i get paid for shitposting some lardass?
>>64762373Its hard to be insulted when youre so incompetent with English you're tripping over your words.
>>64761846>>64761847It was just a prototype.Most certainly it didn't work reliably yet and wasn't ready for mass production.Hitler ordered all researched stopped that wouldn't pay off within a year or so.That's why Germany's research on the proximity fuze and centimetric radar (cavity magnetron) suffered.Same thing happened with the rockets.>The years 1939-1942, when Hitler had blocked development and production of the V-2, were lost yearshttp://www.astronautix.com/t/taifun.htmlBasically from 1933 to 1939 Germany spent tons of efforts on modernizing their armed forces.Then they realized that they could easily defeat their opponents like Poland, France and even initially the USSR.So they thought they were leagues ahead of anyone else and instead of dedicating funds towards developing even more stuff they concentrated on keeping their occupied countries in check.Many of their engineers had to serve in the armed forces.Ever heard of Oswald Teichmuller? Genius on the level of Turing who worked in cryptography, but he died in an infantry unit deep in somewhere in Russia as a private.Even Konrad Zuse, the man who built the Z3 which was the first digital programmable computer had to serve during the initial war against Poland.While the later Z4 was actively used in wind tunnel research I would say it could have been utilized even better.Only when Germany started losing at the end of 1942 they ramped up the research again.Btw some say the German proximity fuze was eventually finished towards the end of the war, apparently named 'Kuhglockchen" made by Rheinmetall. Might be, might not be.Germany seriously made some weird decisions.In 1935 there was already a prototype STG but instead of bringing it to maturity to adopt as a service rifle they went with the old K98.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vollmer_M35Makes you wonder if there wasn't some sabotage involved, like the Oslo Report in the first place.
>>64761735Huge number of salty Brits and Eastern Euros on this board. They constantly piss off about America, Russia, and Germany.
>>64762459You see it especially in how they shill super super super hard for NATO, but bitch about the US in the same breath. As though NATO isn't just America and its harem of welfare queen sluts.
>>64762459>They constantly piss offHoly ESLbabble
>>64762491Learn English, moron. That is a common expression. >https://www.google.com/search?q="piss off about"
>>64762035Americans are the only nationality that has any right to post on this board. If you come from any nation without a right to bear arms, you don't deserve to post here.
>>64762503"Piss off about" isn't even close to the correct vernacular, you train-dodging, sister-fucking subcontinental downie.
>>64762483Did you ever receive that canned food we donated to starving thirdies back in school?
>>64762503Now that's 100% jeet talk
>>64762503>>64762459It isn't, what is hilarious is this clear desperation to try and convince people English is your mother tongue.
>>64761918>I really do wonder whether you realise the inherently disingenuous nature of that statement.How so? I agreed with you.Britain lost its position in the world following WW1, even though it was on the winning side.Before that was it was the first and only superpower.Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Britain trade islands in exchange for old American warships during WW2?With pre-WW1 Britain this would have been unthinkable.Doesn't change the fact that Germany was much poorer than Britain and I don't deny this.Hell, they had no gold reserves as is common knowledge.As part of Molotov–Ribbentrop They traded manufacturing tech with the USSR because they were in dire need for raw resources, something that came back to haunt them soon enough.Before WW1 Europe was still way ahead of America.The war damaged all countries, winners or losers, severely while America sat back and relaxed initially before it sent a few soldiers.Then American industrial capacity overtook any single European country, even Britain.Science and engineering expertise was still in European hands however.The first wave came to the US pre-WW2 mostly in the form of German Jews or Germans dissatisfied with Hitler's Germany (some of whom were communists, such as Klaus Fuchs, who betrayed the USA eventually).The next wave came after WW2, Operation Paperclip etc.This enabled the USA the become the industrial and scientific juggernaut it is today, while most European countries are rather poor and don't have much say in the world.
>>64762409>Konrad ZuseI read that as "Konrad Curze" lol.
>>64762160>Indian rolling templesThat's a thing?
>>64761690This guy spams /deutsch/ on /int/ by the way sperging about how technically superior east Germany was to the west o algo hes mentally ill
FYI OP is a well know Ossitard lolcow from /deutsch/ >>>/int/218508847>Russian/Chinese dicksucker from Saxony>Claims to be NazBol>Thinks the GDR should've become prussian Best Korea to own da libz>Seethes 24/7 at at Wessis
>>64762185>Explain to me the mentality of having to constantly shit on the Third Reich's military capabilitiesunironically reddit trannyismeven seen it happen on youtube latetly where some videos start popping up about how >le bad and stoopid wehrmacht wasand then i take a look at the channels icon and it unironically features a "pride"-flag lmfao
>>64762707>ossis ossis ossismeds
>>64762725Why are ossis always seething?
>>64761890I see yuros and pretty much everyone else gloating about how stronk they are. In fact, they always have bitchfits that last over a day and spill over into other boards if point out that they're wrong.
>>64762728>ja hier leute schaut mal alle her da hat der eine Ossi (von dem ich 3000 Screenshots gespeichert habe) einen Faden erstellt(you) are the one who's obsessedI've never even seen a post from this guy and I've been on /deutsch/ since 2022
>>64762491He may be a brownoid, but he’s right in this instance.Well, a third right at least. Nobody is really salty about Germany or Russia (other than being exasperated by Russian shills)
>>64762732Im not even German, i havent been to your garbage general.
>>64762739>havent been to your garbage general.>garbage general
>>64762745Why do you fags always double-down on outing yourselves.
>>64761872Bitching about NAFO has nothing to do with being a redditor or wehraboo.It’s wholly and exclusively a form of vatnik seethe.
Reminder, that no matter HOW much wehraboo seethe soviet seethe is presented, the Sherman is and always will be, the best tank of WW2.
>>64762773Spitting facts there
>>64762773>Sherman is and always will be, the best tank of WW2.Pure delulu. Sherman wasn’t even the best Western Allied tank (that would be the Cromwell).
>>64762792The Sherman wins simply because it can go on landing craft. Theres a reason why the Sherman was as scary as a Tiger in the pacific.
>>64762803>The Sherman wins simply because it can go on landing craft
>64761707>seiggers are spamming gore againWhat blew up in Germany this time?
aaah, finally, a good popcorn thread only the finest shit is threwn into each otherwe have miggers, curry niggers, aryans, bongs and slot eyes. who did i miss?
>>64762702actually to my knowledge he always admitted that the GDR was (far) behind the westhis point was that the GDR had potential but was held back by international isolation (isolated from Japan, USA, Western Europe)he blames West Germany for "stealing" companies (he literally always brings up Siemens, Audi and Zeiss) ignoring the fact that they simply fled the communist system which is obviously openly hostile to private enterprisehe then started to spam this space camera as evidence for his claims, which became a meme:https://grokipedia.com/page/mkf_6_multispectral_camerahe became so much of a meme that I think there were several impersonators which happens more or less to all personasthis guy started posing because a group of posters on /deutsch/ called ossis "slavic subhumans" and demanded their genocide (ironic or not, I'm not sure)as a result he began defending the bullshit state that was the GDR to "prove" that ossis are actually the only based Germans lefthe came there as a /pol/tard and these trolls manipulated him into defending communismnot only did they pull off d&c but they actually turned him into a little combat drone so to speakwhat an idioteither way I don't think op is actually him
>>64762830Would you like to learn more about our lord and savior Sir Arthur Harris?
>>64761735>post retarded and refuted "facts" >get called out for being an uneducated retard>"hurr durr u seethe"
>>64762803>he blames West Germany for "stealing" companieshe's unironically right doughbit
>>64762459>America, Russia, and Germany.You're a vatnigger and will NEVER EVER be part of the team.
>>64762849meant for>>64762841
>>64762409>tl;dr it was shit and didn't workDamn, it's almost like the supposed German "superiority" is just boomer memes.
no panther is the best tank. shermans design features didnt make it past 45. panther on the other hand is the stencil for every modern tank.and never forget: theres an entire book by an american tank tech how much of a death trap the sherman is.
>>64762842dead he isand my cousins fuck your daughtersdid you know azad hind was an ss division made up entirely by indians?their grandsons are fucking. england. now.
>>64762830put me in the screencap
>>64762895Nah, too obvious.You have to be more subtle when trying to bait. Heres your (You)
>64762895>brings up interracial sex out of nowhereWhy are Stormweenies like this?
>>64762843what' so retarded about them? seriously asking. haven't seen anybody disprove them
Nobody produced German tanks after the war. Not even with the better quality & quantity that Western factories could have supplied them in. The most use you got was the French retaining some Panthers, and the Syrians with Pz IVs. When they West Germans did design their own tank, it went in the complete opposite direction of Panther and Tiger.
>>64763027Ackshually when the West Germans rearmed they went back to the E series (Which was developed from the Panther program) and modernized the plans. Theres Panther DNA in German tanks.
>>64763037Sounds interesting? Source?I thought the Leopard 2 was basically an American design?
>>64763078Leo 1 was designed by Porsche and they still had some E series schematics. It was easier than starting from scratch.
>>64763037>>64763088got more info?only thing i've seen is them using this weird Panther F rangefinder
>>64761690>worked on similar principlesF1 racecars and tuk-tuks work on similar principles.
>>64761707>Shermans will doCorrect.
>>64763110It was a line in a documentary I watched a while back but I cant recall the name. Basically West Germany had zero military development for a decade and on top of using French/British parts and aid for it they poured over what designs they had left in the Porsche factories. Not a direct lineage but a lot of the same people were imvolved. They didnt directly take a Panther and modernize it but you can see a bit of E50/Pather in the model 734 prototype.
>>64763116>The Carl Zeiss Lotfernrohr 7 (Lot meant “Vertical” and Fernrohr meant “Telescope”), or Lotfe 7, was the primary series of bombsights used in most Luftwaffe level bombers, similar to the United States’ Norden bombsight, but much simpler to operate and maintain.https://warhistory.org/de/@msw/article/lotfernrohr-7
>>64763150>The Luftwaffe decided their Lotfe 7 was better than the Norden and gave the American device no further consideration. So despite years of extraordinary efforts by U. S. military and civilian authorities to keep the Norden bombsight secret, America’s secret weapon was never secret-except to the American public.
>>64762701
>>64761701>>64761703>>64761730>>64761820How do you subhuman retards still get baited after 20 years of this?>>64761734The myth of Fireflies and the like being targeted was almost entirely a myth made up by paranoid Allied tankers, in practice German troops just treated them as other Shermans and often weren't aware of them as a particular threat.Either Jens Wehner or MHV have a video about it.
>>64762160>>64762701Sorry for the s*arty image but it came with the post.
>>64763088Leo 1 was famously just a big gun with no armor to speak of. The opposite of Nazi designs and, ackhually, a copy of a T-34 (and American) approach. With LOTS of fucking guns everywhere. The Soviet approach was that 40k of 80mm mobile guns was better than 5k of 80mm mobile guns and that's it.Not surprisingly btw considering that they JUST had their asses handed to them by the Soviet approach kek.
>>64761690The funny thing about this pic is even though the guy on the left is obese he could easily fuck up that effeminate fag on the right
LOL
LMAO even
>>64763187And how, exactly, does this supposed crushing machine move? This doesn’t pass the sniff test to me.
No (you)@64763247@64763255Western democracies:>Genocide and slavery is... le bad!Also western democracies:>That the soviets enslaved half of Europe and genocided eastern Germany is a great success for western democracies!Who wrote this shit? Shakespeare? Or perhaps Gorky?
>>64763227Well yes the Leo 1 came from an era where armor busting was becoming man portable. Porsche never intended a 1 for 1 copy of a heavy WW2 tank, they already knew speed was important which is what some of the later design concepts of German medium tanks tried to go for as well. There's minimal Soviet influence however unless you're counting the experience the Germans got during WW2 and looking over Soviet tanks. Same guys who worked on Porsche WW2 German tank designs worked on the Leo 1.
>>64763078leo2 & abrams spawn off mbt70, but that was later.see pic >>64763088l
>>64763258>How could a large wheeled structure POSSIBLY move?Are you actually retarded.
>>64763037
https://tankmuseum.org/tank-nuts/tank-collection/pantherAnother thing about the Panther that lends creedance to it being the grandfather or a very important inspiration of MBTs is that its actually the only German tank the allies produced after WW2.
>>64763027>>64763037>>64763078>>647630373 generations
>fashies and tankies are fighting again
>>64763318Let us tank autists salvage this.
>>64761690>Nuclear weapons.>Active Sonar (ASDIC)>Proximity Fuse>Cavity Magnetron/Centimetric radar>ENIAC>Penicillin>Plastic Explosives>Napalm>Fully automatic bombsight>Mass-produced semi-automatic battle rifle>Tank gun stabilizer>Underwater hyperbaric welding>Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (Mosquito) + Resorcinol glue>Anti-tank rocket launcher>High-altitude strategic bombers.>Even shipbuilding was advanced. The Liberty Ships were high tech. All-welded, cold rolled steel, pre-fabricated sections.Fucking weheraboo nigger.
>>64763318begone
>>64763318stay put
>>64763005>haven't seen anybody disprove themAre you fucking retarded ? None of those inventions even progressed beyond prototype stage.
>>64763328>Nuclear weapons.Only after the war in Europe was long over. Doesn't count.>Active Sonar (ASDIC)WW1 lmao>Proximity FuseOP>Cavity Magnetron/Centimetric radarOP>ENIACZuse Z3 was literally 4 years earlier lmao>PenicillinThe allies only looked into this because they could no longer buy German made Sulfonamides>Plastic Explosives"The first manufactured plastic explosive was gelignite in 1875, invented by Alfred Nobel.">NapalmDo you seriously believe that Germany had no incendiary bombs lol?Napalm was just a specific solution the natural rubber being unavailable because Japan controlled Asia.>Fully automatic bombsightOP>Mass-produced semi-automatic battle rifleCool, the FG42 was even fully automatic, not to mention that battle rifles play a niche role in the age of assault rifles, the Stg44 says hello>Underwater hyperbaric welding"Underwater hyperbaric welding was invented by the Soviet metallurgist Konstantin Khrenov in 1932", according to wikipedia>Tank gun stabilizerUseless as it only stabilized one axis. The Patton tank didn't have that, as it wasn't applicable to bigger guns than those seen in the M4. Only in 1972 was another system developed (together with West Germany).>Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (Mosquito) + Resorcinol glueJunkers Ju 88No idea why glue is in the same bullet point but okI considers this so insignificant I will just give you this without looking it up which would probably reveal that it is bullshit lol>Anti-tank rocket launcherPanzerfaust>High-altitude strategic bombersUralbomber, Amerikabomber>shipbuilidngBismarck class, Type XXI subs, etc
>>64763361Are YOU fucking retarded?You do realize that an invention necessarily starts out as a prototype, right?Has the invention of high fructose corn syrup eaten away at your brains?
Schizos spamming the board are just boring now.
>>64763415NTA but 90% of these things don't even count.
>>6476341590% Of this is fucking fabrication, you sumb nigger. allies innvented all of those thinngs. Bismarck was fuckinng garage. Amerikabomber was never even made, nor was the uralbomer. >Junkers Ju 88was garage, inferior to Mustangs and P47's.>PanzerfaustStolen design of Bazooka.
>>64763415All of this just to say they were fucking retarded to not put any of these into production in meaningful numbers to win the war.>Spoiler>They lost the war.
>>64763419>You do realize that an invention necessarily starts out as a prototype, right?You do realize hat Germans were too fucking retarded to progress those prototypes into full production?
>>64761707>Shermans will doAnd they did. Kill more kraut tanks than the reverse and win the war, that is.
>>64761838>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Cavalry_Division_(United_Kingdom)>created to garrison Palestine>deactivated in 1941, converted into the 10th Armoured DivisionThat is some grade A cope you have there.
>>64761904>McCarthy was right.McCarthy was a retard whose incompetence and paranoia caused untold damage, all while failing to seriously affect soviet espionage efforts.
>>64763415>Useless as it only stabilized one axisIts curious how in your assessments that if an Allied piece of tech that has a limitation then it doesn't count, but if Germany creates a half-assed prototype thats entirely unusable and leads nowhere then you give them full credit>No idea why glue is in the same bullet point but ok I considers (sic) this so insignificantThis literally killed one of Germanys best night fighter designs
>>64762143My understanding is that there are a lot of clips of jeets walking unflinching next to trains. I think the kids call it aura farming or something these days. Anyway, a lot of jeets try to copy that look for upvotes and end up dying because they misjudge how wide that the train is.
>>64763415äckthually, the first patent for a nuclear compression bomb was handed by liese meitner 1935 in vienna.
>>64763429>Stolen design of Bazooka.A disposable recoilless rifle is supposed to be a "stolen design" of a re-usable rocket launcher? Are you retarded?
>>64763506Pancerfaust wasn't a ''recoilless rifle'' you dumb fucking turd. AND yes, Germans did steal the design.
>>64763517NTA but I think you´re mistaking Panzerfaust for the Panzerschreck
>>64763192Sexo
>>64762230>>64762230There's also the flipside where people kneejerk too hard in the other direction. It's not that the equipment was that terrible in the second half of the war, it's that the second half is when they got dogpiled by significantly more industrial output and manpower than they could match. There are certainly a few cases where resources could have been more efficiently distributed, with some of the more extreme examples being the result of Hitler overruling experts or due to infighting between different branches pursuing their own pet projects, but as a whole a lot of people are far to quick to strawman the germans as being knuckle dragging retards with bullshit like:>the germans were retards who kept having their pilots fly sorties until they died instead of rotating their experienced pilots back to train the next wave of pilots with lessons from the battlefieldignoring that having the manpower surplus to rotate your pilots back like that was a luxury that germany couldn't afford when being outnumbered on all sides.or>dumbass germans built jet engines that melted after a few hours of flightignoring that by that point in the war germany's industrial capacity had been bombed to shit and they could no longer manufacture the necessary alloys to the desired specifications for the engines, so they made due with what they had.>>64762315>>64762320>>64762327People hype up the fancy tanks, planes, and guns since those are glamorous and steal all the spotlight in the movies, but wars are won by boring shit like factories, oil, food, and logistics.
I love it. And no complaining about “wehraboos” will change that.
>>64763192>bottom middleWould invade her southern border, if you know what I mean.
>>64761735Ukraine War tourists.
>>64761849>Be Patton>>Lifelong ouiabeaux, studied swordsmanship at the École de cavalerie in Saumur, low-key play favorites with subordinates who could speak with him in French, considered many French army officers personal friends and trusted allies in 2 wars.>Virulent Prussophobe since 1912>Think Germans are the enemy of civilization, a naturally subservient people who will meekly submit to anyone wearing a uniform even if they're just the ticket taker on the train, etc.>Probably the last person in the US Army to use the terms "Boche" and "the Hun" unironically, even the other WW1 vets were using "Kraut" by 1944.>Love war a little TOO much for a senior officer>You're also 60 years old in 1945>Germans get bodied so hard you know that even if there is a Round 3 someday, you'll be looooong dead by then.>Denied a command in the Pacific, stuck on garrison duty for the short time you have left in active service.>Literally the only other possible foe in the entire world is the Soviet Union.>Suddenly decide the Germans were a noble adversary and that the Russians are the enemy of civilization, a naturally subservient people who will meekly submit to anyone working for the Party, even if they're just the ticket taker on the train...
>>64763797based Patton just wanted to kill e*ropoids
>>64763797He simply was never exposed to Russians until his army came into contact with them in Germany. It's natural for him to revise his opinion after meeting actual Russians in person.
>>64763797>Patton at the 1912 Stockholm Olympics.jpgJust dropping by to mention that at this event he formed a life-long friendship with the chairman of the Swedish Olympic commission, a certain count who'd later become Herman Goering's brother in law, a founding member of the Swedish Nazi party, and a personal friend of Hitler.Also, if you believe in the current Israeli-American narrative, DO NOT look up how Patton felt about jews, or any information about Operation Cowboy.
