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>nearly 80 years
>barely any changes
How did they get it so right?
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>>64766303
It's not perfect, but it's good enough, and it's been around long enough that any major flaws got sorted out
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>>64766303
they didn't. ruslims are just to poor and stupid to improve upon it
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>>64766303
they grabbed an STG-44 and changed it up enough to not get in trouble. STG was better. Charging handle was on the proper side and the mags had a proper magwell. And the release button was on the proper side of the magwell.
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At least use a real image instead of AIshit if you're going to make a thread...
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AI slop getting good
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>>64766320
is that why is says 62x39 and not 7.62x39?
Ai is gonna get people killed by incompetence lmao
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>>64766303
>62mm
>AK103 was "5.45x39mm"
Whoever typed up the text is too niggery.
https://en.kalashnikovgroup.ru/catalog/boevoe-strelkovoe-oruzhie/avtomaty/avtomat-kalashnikova-ak103
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>>64766303
It is really still cheaper to do sheet metal over cast in this day and age? They should be on par given the prices right?
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>>64766303
As my 8th grade science teacher put it, evolution is very lazy, it will never craft the perfect animal but just something that will survive in the current environment
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>>64766303
The AK74 was a giant fuck up.
By the 70s it was pretty clear that firearms design needs were changing and things like having a loose top cover would be prohibitive to future proofing your firearms for optics and the like.
The side rail was a fine cope in the 50s and 60s, but by the 70s everyone knew the writing was on the wall.

After that it was just muddling along.
Kalashnikov was a mechanical genius, undoubtedly, but his AK74 was unambitious and the USSR decided to save a dime today when it would cost themselves a dollar in the future and fucked themselves for 50 years on a gun that couldn't be modernized properly.
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>>64766347
It is cheaper when you have a factory the size of a city to make the guns.
It took the Soviets over a decade to get it right, and once they did, they kept the system going forever.
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>>64766330
It's AI slop. Those guns are hideous abominations as well... but I guess that the iPhone posters don't even spot such things these days.
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>>64766546
genuine question, why cant they just "Modernize" by adding rails to furniture and dust cover?

(fuck captcha)
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>>64766844
There is nothing positively retaining an AKM or AK74 dust cover. It is just held in place by sloppy spring tension at the rear and a bit of friction at the front.
On the AK12 there's a pivoting locking cam that helps hold it in better on the front and a better hook up at the rear, but it is still imperfect and the zero is never held exactly between removals and reinstallations (good enough for government work, basically).

The issue is that the AK was designed around a 'trench' style receiver for manufacturing simplicity. It holds all the important components and tolerances and operating bits, and all the other stuff is allowed to be less intense.
But in this case a consequence is that the top cover, where you'd want to mount the optic, has to be removable to get the operating bits out and access to the chamber and the internals for cleaning. This inherently puts a limit on the potential repeatable accuracy of anything mounted to the top cover, even if you put effort into rectifying that problem - if not (like the AK74) the top cover is just unusable.
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>>64766313
Why would they even need to change it up? It wasn't as if Germany was going to get in a copyright dispute over the StG-44...
Anyways, the AK-47 is internally much more similar to the Garand than the StG-44. The concept, form factor and ammunition, yeah, those are a direct response to the StG. The ammunition was even developed during the war, as a response to 8mm Kurz.

>>64766347
Yes, sheet metal is cheaper at scale. Hell, machining from billet is cheaper and more reliable than casting for small batches and high quality components (such as a trunnion).

>>64766546
Nope. Even in the 1980s the concept of optics on every rifle was not standard doctrine for all respectable armies. You can't fault a 1970s design for not having reliable optics mounting - you can fault the Russians for sticking to that design into the 21st century.

>>64766844
Furniture and dust cover on an AK are not designed to hold zero: you can mount optics there, but they won't help you hit much. This can then be solved with complex and heavy rails systems, that add even more weight and bulk to an already heavy base rifle.
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>>64766303
>62x39 mm
So the bullet just sort of rolls down the barrel?
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>>64766932
No anon, it takes a crane to load.
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>>64766919
The US had been jury rigging gooseneck optics and other solutions onto ARs for a decade by that time, HK was messing around with their clamp on mounts for their G3/HK33s, the AR70 and Sterling's AR18s were flat tops (even if they didn't have optics rails). The future was pretty clear by that point.

You can see some of this in the AK74's competitors, like the SA-006 (which eventually led to today's A545 rifles), where the upper receiver is one giant piece rather than a flimsy dust cover.
Not perfect, the upper and the barrel should be locked together, but it was an improvement despite clearly being designed around the AK47's receiver structure.
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>>64766303
Was it really that difficult for you not to post AI slop? The illustrations are all wrong. The information is all wrong. The only thing I like about AI is that I hope it removes access to water from whatever shit hole you hail from. KYS.
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>>64766303
I wouldn't call it perfect. It was good when it was new, better than battle rifles, but it's getting to be very dated by now.
The reason it changes so little is primarily because of economics.

>>64766310
There's that. If it's the rifle you have, then it's at least still workable, but the controls and optics mounting leave a lot to be desired.

>>64766313
Nigger, Nazi Germany was stomped, who was gonna sue them? The East Germans they kept on a leash, or the West Germans who's opinions they didn't give a fuck about?

If they were worried about any associations, they sure didn't mind East Germany still using Stg44s until they finally got AKs, nor giving out captured Stg44s as military aid.

This is all setting aside the radically different receivers, construction, and bolt, along with all the things which the AK actually shares with the American M1, 1918 BAR, and Model 8.
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>>64766303
>62x39mm
>62mm
AAAAAAAHHHH
MOTHERLAND
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>>64766546
The economic writing was likely already on the wall by the 1970s, which probably motivated the "Just make the AKM but in the new caliber."
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