Guns competing to replace the L85, the "Project Greyburn". Thoughts?
>>64766439>no bullpupBig sad, I know they were always gonna go 416 because everyone is going 416 but I was waiting for some silly indigenous wildcard or for them to adopt something out of left field like the VHS
>>64766462I wouldn't count out the KS-1, they've already adopted it for some of their SOF so KAC has a foot in the door with it.
>>64766439LMT probably doesn't have the scaleability, huh. Otherwise they'd be in there, the MARS looks like any of these.
>>64766439It'll be the narp or 416 (likely the 416) unless they get a killer deal on the scarAre they producing the mk3 in belgium or is it only US-made?
>>64766439Sako dropped out?
>>64766439>four AR-15s and two AR-18s
>>64766569no
>>64766569>>64766663Hoping Sako wins. Could do with some more dark horse outcomes. Plus after the UK's mighty contribution to Greenland's defense, Nordic cohesion would be valuable.
>>64766439>the "Project Greyburn". Thoughts?More like Project Gayburn, am I right?
>>64766761>Could do with some more dark horse outcomesLike the UK cops choosing the fucking Glock-15, out of nowhere, baffling any and all outside observers?
>>64766786I was impressed with the Krauts going with the Czech option for their service pistol.
>>64766588Isn't it more like five AR-18s and one AR-15? I think the KS-1 is traditional AR DI but afaik the rest are all piston guns, even if several have AR-based lowers and trigger groups etc.
>>64766804Maybe 3 and 3. Piston designs like the 416 are closer to the AR-15 in every way except the piston. Same basic bcg/buffer arrangement, almost identical bcg just minus the gas key. The AR-18 ones have the square bcg with dual springs.
>>64766439just adopt the hk416 and get on with it>>64766569im pretty sure they have production issues with it to the point that swedish army adopted m4a1s as interim service rifle
>>64766439The KS1 was already adopted by UK special forces. Piston driven shitters need not apply
>>64766786That was a peculiar one. Forgot that Glock were making a rifle and then adopted.
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>>64766439Gonna be the 416. Literally all you need.
>>64766439KS1 is best but does KAC even have the production capacity for a regular army?>dat golfball barrel hnnng
>>64766795I mean the criteria for the gun were>doesn't do sig things>is as cheap as humanly possible
>>64766439>HK416A8Most likely to actually win.>SCARCool gun, hamstringed by SOCOM from the beginning, will never be successful/not niche.>NARPWill succeed this generation about as well as the ARX did.>MCXWill win if SIGGERS manage to bribe bongs as they have every other contract.>BrenWill never be a complete design, will never be seen as a legit competitor.>KACGucci, but 50/50 chance it will actually work considering most SR15/16/25/M110 have dogshit reliability recordBasically, it's gonna be the H&K unless someone comes through with a nasty bribe.
>>64767104UK already adopted the KAC for their Ranger Regiment
>>64767115>KAC got their shit together for 5min to land a contract*Yeah, I know, now let us actually see them maintain any standard of quality control or production outside of a T&E phase. My money is on "no."
>>64767104Nah. For now it'll be FNThe UK said they want domestic manufacturing and FN are the only ones that have a factory to do that
>>64766439>yellow ar15>yellow ar15>black ar15>yellow ar15>black ar15>black ar15exciting
>>64766439>pistonslop AR15sGrim. The KAC is the best choice here.>>64766786Glock made a rifle?>>64766804I don't count an AR15 receiver with a short-stroke piston forced into it as a proper AR18, it's some kind of retarded halfbreed. You're not gonna get away from the carrier tilt without those guiderods.>>64766843It's partially money reasons, the Swedes got a good deal on refurbed GWOT era M4A1s, and they're provided as economic filler and for familiarizing. They still haven't fully decided and finalized everything with their AK24 as I recall.
>>64767176>Glock made a rifle?Yep. Some kind of AR carbine the bongland cops liked enough to adopt. There's very little public information about the rifle in question.
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>>64766439We should absolutely buy anything except US owned. I don't give a fuck which.
>>64767220Its literally just a plain AR, but it has glock LE pricing and it means PDs can use a single source for all their weapons procurement; which if youre not a gun person is more important than rollmarks. I wouldn't be surprised is glock comes out with a generic shotgun at some point to complement it.
>>64766439>more AR slopI can't wait for us to move past this gay ass pattern.
>>64767812It seems my superiority has caused some controversy
It's GOING to be the HK416, the ks-1 has a chance because of the UK already having familiarity with the KS-1. Anything else would be the result of idiocy or bribery.
>>64767145Doubt any of the others would mind giving license for local production in whatever factory brits can run.
>>64767812>I can't wait for us to move past this gay ass pattern.
>>64766439H&K is gonna win this one. Pretty much guaranteed.
>>64767911Yeah and if I had wings I could fly, but the brits cant run a factory, all the new L85 parts have been made in germany since the early 2000s; the Enfield factory doesn't do shit.
>>64767157There are two AR-18s in there
